[uf-discuss] hAtom handheld CSS..?

2006-03-27 Thread Danny Ayers
Just a thought, prompted by this Russell Beattie post - http://www.russellbeattie.com/notebook/1008914.html I don't think (m)any of the the blog engines offer styling that will work well on mobile devices. Could be a good inroad for hAtom: use this profile, get handheld support for free (via Zen

Re: [uf-discuss] Plants Microformat

2006-03-27 Thread mark gibbons
Thanks for all of your comments. My current take is this: - I will be continuing to develop this format using suggested route. - I will be following this group and contributing if approriate (I think microformats is a good solution to a real problem). - I will ask this group periodically for

[uf-discuss] Re: work of art microformat

2006-03-27 Thread Ryan Cannon
I think this is yet another issue tied to a Citation microformat. When you are adding an image or description of a work of art on a web site, you are more often than not citing an actual document hanging in a museum somewhere else in the world. This shares everything with a citation

Re: [uf-discuss] Plants Microformat

2006-03-27 Thread C. Hudley
On 3/23/06, Brian Suda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the same vein as classification of plants, we might want to explore making a simple microformat that mimics the classification system of the taxonomy of organizims. Kingdom-Phylum-...Family-Species. That way additional microformats (such as

[uf-discuss] Behavior and microformats

2006-03-27 Thread Dr. Ernie Prabhakar
Hi all, While reading yet another design tutorial for Web 2.0 sties: http://snyke.net/blog/2006/03/25/site-design-using-prototype/ I ran across the Behaviour JavaScript library: http://bennolan.com/behaviour/ Using CSS selectors to apply JavaScript behaviors I'm not sure I understand it

[uf-discuss] MicroID - Identity in a shade of microformat

2006-03-27 Thread Chris Messina
Anyone seen this? MicroID is a new Identity layer to the web and Microformats that allows anyone to simply claim verifiable ownership over their own pages and content hosted anywhere. The technology is radically simple and capable of empowering new and unique meta services with only minor effort.

Re: [uf-discuss] hAtom handheld CSS..?

2006-03-27 Thread Chris Messina
Perhaps Danny can shed some light on his proposal? On 3/27/06, Chris Casciano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 27, 2006, at 3:39 PM, Chris Messina wrote: On 3/27/06, Chris Casciano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess I'm not clear where microformats (including hAtom or not) would serve

Re: [uf-discuss] seeking clarification w/r/to hCard and RFCs 2425/2426

2006-03-27 Thread brian suda
IN RFC 2426 (vCard) it saws in the overview: The [MIME-DIR (RFC 2425)] document defines a MIME Content-Type for holding different kinds of directory information. The directory information can be based on any of a number of directory schemas. This document defines a [MIME-DIR (RFC 2425)]

[uf-discuss] Re: Thoughts on MF Wiki

2006-03-27 Thread Chris Messina
On 3/27/06, David Weekly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Take: We're meeting at Gordon Biersch at 10:30 tomorrow - be there! Change to: We're meeting at [Event: Gordon Biersch at 10:30 tomorrow] - be there! Well, we'd have to rewrite tomorrow to a date when the original submitter posted.

Re: [uf-discuss] hAtom handheld CSS..?

2006-03-27 Thread David Janes -- BlogMatrix
This is an interesting idea. Here are the key elements to Russell Beattie's proposal (I think) as it relates to hAtom: I have to say I’m getting more and more convinced that this is the direction that the mobile web is going to go. No recoding markup, no “separate and always unequal” access

Re: [uf-discuss] MicroID - Identity in a shade of microformat

2006-03-27 Thread jer
Boy, once Doc gets a hold of something... I was going to send out a little note here asking for some feedback, but it's gone full circle already :) Anyway, MicroID isn't exactly a microformat all by itself but it can be expressed in conjunction with one. It's really just an opaque but

Re: [uf-discuss] MicroID - Identity in a shade of microformat

2006-03-27 Thread Holly Ward
I must be missing something obvious, because it seems apparant to me that this doesn't buy you anything. You take a person's email and website, and generate a long hex number based on the two. This identifies them uniquely, sure--but anybody who knows your email address can generate the exact

Re: [uf-discuss] MicroID - Identity in a shade of microformat

2006-03-27 Thread Kevin Marks
On Mar 27, 2006, at 3:40 PM, jer wrote: Boy, once Doc gets a hold of something... I was going to send out a little note here asking for some feedback, but it's gone full circle already :) Anyway, MicroID isn't exactly a microformat all by itself but it can be expressed in conjunction with

RE: [uf-discuss] MicroID - Identity in a shade of microformat

2006-03-27 Thread Eran
Yep, I tend to agree with Holly. It seems that the process for verifying your identity is identical to the process of creating an identical forgery. Also, I've mentioned this before regarding i-tags, using the class attribute to store information seems like a bad idea in general and violates a

Re: [uf-discuss] hAtom handheld CSS..?

2006-03-27 Thread Chris Casciano
On Mar 27, 2006, at 7:46 PM, Chris Messina wrote: Another example of using hAtom could come from the devices themselves... Imagine using a service proxy between the website you want and your handheld: originating website -- proxy -- handheld While you could use RSS for this, hell, why not

Re: [uf-discuss] MicroID - Identity in a shade of microformat

2006-03-27 Thread jer
Yep, I tend to agree with Holly. It seems that the process for verifying your identity is identical to the process of creating an identical forgery. What I need to learn how to say better (and put in a FAQ) is something like MicroIDs are not to be validated until a user makes a claim and

Re: [uf-discuss] MicroID - Identity in a shade of microformat

2006-03-27 Thread jer
As your model is spoofable if I know your email, I'm not sure what this gains for you over showing the ID or email directly in the moderated system. So that you don't *have* to be public, so the identifier can be private if you want it to, so that your account on that other system isn't