Re: [uf-discuss] Tentative proposal: Sub-microformats to streamline common microformat patterns for simple data

2008-01-03 Thread Ryan Cannon
://microformats.org/wiki/hresume#Schema [4]: http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-discuss/2006-December/0075 59.html -- Ryan Cannon Application Developer National Football League http://ryancannon.com/ ___ microformats-discuss mailing list

[uf-discuss] [rethinking abbr] Does object deserve another look?

2007-04-30 Thread Ryan Cannon
simple to write and backwards-compatible. [1]: http://tantek.com/log/2005/01.html#d26t0100 [2]: http://www.webreference.com/stats/browser.html -- Ryan Cannon Interactive Developer http://RyanCannon.com ___ microformats-discuss mailing list

[uf-discuss] Re: [hcite] nesting container elements

2007-04-02 Thread Ryan Cannon
/module3_7.html [3]: http://www.liu.edu/CWIS/CWP/library/workshop/citapa.htm [4]: http://www.libs.uga.edu/ref/chicago.html -- Ryan Cannon Interactive Developer MSI Student, School of Information University of Michigan http://RyanCannon.com ___ microformats

[uf-discuss] RE: Scraping or parsing?

2007-03-06 Thread Ryan Cannon
these problems. I also think discussion of WYSIWYG-only users is fairly off-topic for this list because their experience comes through a level of abstraction: tool developers. We can continue that discussion off-list. -- Ryan Cannon Interactive Developer MSI Student, School of Information University

RE: [uf-discuss] Scraping or parsing?

2007-03-05 Thread Ryan Cannon
On Mar 4, 2007, at 11:06 PM, Mike Schinkel wrote: Ryan Cannon wrote: Adding an @profile attribute to he headelement is far less technically demanding than, say, creating a tag space, which we also require. Especially as the addition also has no performance or usability impact. It may be less

RE: [uf-discuss] Scraping or parsing?

2007-03-04 Thread Ryan Cannon
that the meeting of either condition implies the ability to add an @profile as well for 80% of cases? -- Ryan Cannon Interactive Developer MSI Student, School of Information University of Michigan http://RyanCannon.com ___ microformats-discuss mailing

[uf-discuss] Re: [hcite] indentifier

2007-02-22 Thread Ryan Cannon
On Feb 22, 2007, at 9:03 AM, Brian Suda wrote: KEYS for things like BibTeX are not globally unique, but unique only to the bibtext file. This can be generated by any transforming application and are not needed in the mark-up. But KEYS are not the same as IDENTIFIERS. Identifiers should be

[uf-discuss] [hcite] indentifier

2007-02-21 Thread Ryan Cannon
to see it in it's current state. [1]: http://microformats.org/wiki/citation- brainstorming#Working_straw_schema -- Ryan Cannon Interactive Developer MSI Student, School of Information University of Michigan http://RyanCannon.com ___ microformats-discuss

Re: [uf-discuss] SOURCE+URL to indicate authoritative hCard (was UID+URL vs. VIA)

2007-02-13 Thread Ryan Cannon
On Feb 13, 2007, at 7:32 AM, Scott Reynen wrote: SOURCE in vCard is essentially the same as self in Atom (AFAICT). I think SOURCE is actually closer to VIA in Atom, as the source of the information provided in the containing element, which is why I suggested it. As I understood the arguments

Re: [uf-discuss] VIA or VIA SELF to indicate authoritative hCard[was:UID URL to indicate (relatively) more authoritativehCard(Was:Vote on this: rel=me self to indicate anauthoritative hCard)]

2007-02-12 Thread Ryan Cannon
On Feb 12, 2007, at 8:16 AM, David Janes wrote: On 2/11/07, Ryan Cannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: UID+URL *is* more constraining. Like rel-tag, you're forcing a lot of assumptions about the documents *surrounding* these URLs--links have to point somewhere after all. My UID, if you

RE: [uf-discuss] VIA or VIA SELF to indicate authoritative hCard[was:UID URL to indicate (relatively) more authoritativehCard(Was:Vote on this: rel=me self to indicate anauthoritative hCard)]

2007-02-11 Thread Ryan Cannon
the implementation in X2V may be trivial, it may not be in other applications in the wild--it's also not a good precedence to set for uFs in general. For backwards-compatibility alone, @rel=via seems to me an optimal solution. -- Ryan Cannon Interactive Developer MSI Student, School

Re: [uf-discuss] Rel-tag issues, i can't create my own tagspace!

2007-02-11 Thread Ryan Cannon
type of taxonomy data in microformats. As the number and complexity of microformats increases, this is going to become a problem for implementors. -- Ryan Cannon Interactive Developer MSI Student, School of Information University of Michigan http://RyanCannon.com

[uf-discuss] VIA or VIA SELF to indicate authoritative hCard [was: UID URL to indicate (relatively) more authoritativehCard (Was: Vote on this: rel=me self to indicate anauthoritative hCard)]

2007-02-08 Thread Ryan Cannon
that dereferences to itself with @rel=via self. Once you get to one that says I'm my own source, you've got a reasonable assertion of authority. Ryan Cannon suggested this previously [2], but it seemed to get lost in uid url conversations. [2] http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats

Re: [uf-discuss] Vote on this: rel=me self to indicate an authoritative hCard

2007-02-07 Thread Ryan Cannon
--both of those are usually globally unique individual identifiers. -- Ryan Cannon Interactive Developer MSI Student, School of Information University of Michigan http://RyanCannon.com ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss

[uf-discuss] [hAtom] syntax check--hAtom2atom.xml problems

2007-02-05 Thread Ryan Cannon
and telling me if it's a problem on my end or on the software end? http://www-personal.si.umich.edu/~rcannonz/portfolio Cheers, -- Ryan Cannon Interactive Developer MSI Student, School of Information University of Michigan http://RyanCannon.com

[uf-discuss] Re: [hCite] call for examples: language (Andy Mabbett)

2007-02-02 Thread Ryan Cannon
On Feb 2, 2007, at 11:13 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote: I may be rare, but it does happen. Mein Kampf in English is still titled Mein Kampf So if the evidence confirms my suspicion that it's really rare to need to mark up the language of (for example) the book separately from the language of the

Re: Vote on this: rel=me self to indicate an authoritative hCard {was: Re: [uf-discuss] Authoritative hCards [was RE: Canonical hCards (was: Search on CSS element)]}

2007-01-31 Thread Ryan Cannon
me is invalid *unless* you do not include the XFN profile on your Web site. -1 to rel=self me [1]: http://www.gmpg.org/xfn/11#me -- Ryan Cannon Interactive Developer MSI Student, School of Information University of Michigan http://RyanCannon.com

Re: Vote on this: rel=me self to indicate an authoritative hCard {was: Re: [uf-discuss] Authoritative hCards [was RE: Canonical hCards (was: Search on CSS element)]}

2007-01-31 Thread Ryan Cannon
authoritative information. [1]: http://www.gmpg.org/xfn/11#me [2]: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4287.txt -- Ryan Cannon Interactive Developer MSI Student, School of Information University of Michigan http://RyanCannon.com ___ microformats-discuss mailing list

Re: [uf-discuss] [citation] citation root element

2007-01-12 Thread Ryan Cannon
in me likes the way hcite rolls off of the tongue. hbib offends both sensibilities. + 1 hcite - 1 hcitation - 1 hbib -- Ryan Cannon Interactive Developer MSI Student, School of Information University of Michigan http://RyanCannon.com ___ microformats

Re: [uf-discuss] Operator: Microformat detection for Firefox 2

2007-01-05 Thread Ryan Cannon
/Geocaching On the topic of Operator, version 0.6.1 isn't working for me at all in Firefox 2.0.0.1/OS X. Anyone else having this problem? I even double-checked it on the ocono.com page used in the demo screenshot. -- Ryan Cannon Interactive Developer MSI Student, School of Information University

Re: [uf-discuss] rel=tag

2007-01-05 Thread Ryan Cannon
Authoring Statistics[2], hreflang is used less often than a ;= [2]: http://code.google.com/webstats/2005-12/element-a.html -- Ryan Cannon Interactive Developer MSI Student, School of Information University of Michigan http://RyanCannon.com ___ microformats

Re: [uf-discuss] Comments from IBM/Lotus rep about Microformats

2006-12-11 Thread Ryan Cannon
documentation and the oft-belabored process becomes powerful. Although it can be annoying for early-adopters and people who need solutions now, it creates strong formats once the issues are solidified. -- Ryan Cannon Interactive Developer MSI Student, School of Information University of Michigan http

[uf-discuss] [implied hCards] Examples and wiki pages

2006-12-08 Thread Ryan Cannon
me know. [1]: http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-discuss/2006- November/007386.html Cheers, -- Ryan Cannon Interactive Developer MSI Student, School of Information University of Michigan http://RyanCannon.com ___ microformats

Re: [uf-discuss] Is class=vcard fn illegal?

2006-11-25 Thread Ryan Cannon
, imply a class=url. For example: a class=vcard href=http://ryancannon.com/;Ryan Cannon/a becomes BEGIN:VCARD N:Cannon;Ryan;;; FN:Ryan Cannon URL:http\://www.perich.com END:VCARD All this is possible because it requires an hCard without hCard markup inside. This is fairly powerful for a few

Re: [uf-discuss] hCite progress

2006-11-13 Thread Ryan Cannon
I’ve been working on my resume this weekend, and have been slopping together an hCite-ish beast for my publications. One thing about type: I don't think this should be—or at least should have to be—visible data. In most use cases that I can think of: a blogger linking to another blog, a list of

[uf-discuss] XOXO and Extra Markup

2006-11-12 Thread Ryan Cannon
Greetings list, I've looked around for answers to this before, but haven't been able to find anything conclusive. With XOXO, what is the capacity for extra markup? When marking up structured documents, I usually end up with something like ol class=xoxo lih1Level 1/h1 ol

RE: [uf-discuss] Microformats in Form Fields

2006-09-29 Thread Ryan Cannon
of it. Once created, this could be some cool leverage for social networking sites to implement hCard—it gives their users more added value for having a profile. -- Ryan Cannon Interactive Developer MSI Student, School of Information University of Michigan http://RyanCannon.com

[uf-discuss] [citation] Call for scope check (was Re: Citation: next steps?)

2006-09-22 Thread Ryan Cannon
and doomed to obscurity. [1]: http://bibdesk.sourceforge.net/ -- Ryan Cannon Interactive Developer MSI Student, School of Information University of Michigan http://RyanCannon.com On Sep 22, 2006, at 3:00 PM, Michael McCracken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/22/06, Bruce D'Arcus [EMAIL

RE: [uf-discuss] hCard and vCard

2006-08-04 Thread Ryan Cannon
idea? Bad? -- Ryan Cannon Interactive Developer MSI Student, School of Information University of Michigan http://RyanCannon.com ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [uf-discuss] Is Music dead? (I hope not!)

2006-06-29 Thread Ryan Cannon
generate the official metadata for digitized music. [1] http://www.id3.org/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APEv2_tag [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorbis_comment -- Ryan Cannon Interactive Developer MSI Student, School of Information University of Michigan http://RyanCannon.com

Re: [uf-discuss] media file example of hAtom

2006-06-14 Thread Ryan Cannon
Looks like no, although this appears to be an omission in the spec. Anyone have any ideas from the WWW-HTML list? -- Ryan Cannon Interactive Developer MSI Student, School of Information University of Michigan http://RyanCannon.com On Jun 14, 2006, at 10:59 AM, David Janes -- BlogMatrix wrote

Re: [uf-discuss] Citation Straw Proposal II (Recap)

2006-05-07 Thread Ryan Cannon
A given article citation is part of a journal (which is just another citation). The problem is that they would share ALOT of the same info (PubDate, Publisher, etc) It would be difficult to publish an article in a journal by two different publishers? (or i am off the mark here?) So i'm not sure

[uf-discuss] Extracting N from hCard (was: Citation Straw Proposal II)

2006-05-01 Thread Ryan Cannon
text within. I like the second solution better. -- Ryan Cannon Interactive Developer MSI Student, School of Information University of Michigan http://RyanCannon.com/ ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats for everyone!

2006-04-27 Thread Ryan Cannon
looking to create Joe User tools, these are two programs which would be a good starting point. [1]: http://www.nvu.com/ -- Ryan Cannon Interactive Developer MSI Student, School of Information University of Michigan http://RyanCannon.com

[uf-discuss] Re: Citation format straw proposal on the wiki

2006-03-30 Thread Ryan Cannon
rel-cite -- Ryan Cannon Interactive Developer MSI Student, School of Information University of Michigan http://RyanCannon.com/ On 30 Mar 2006, at 8:48 AM, microformats-discuss- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Send microformats-discuss mailing list submissions to microformats

[uf-discuss] Re: work of art microformat

2006-03-27 Thread Ryan Cannon
I think this is yet another issue tied to a Citation microformat. When you are adding an image or description of a work of art on a web site, you are more often than not citing an actual document hanging in a museum somewhere else in the world. This shares everything with a citation

[uf-discuss] Re: microformats-discuss Digest, Vol 10, Issue 7

2006-03-06 Thread Ryan Cannon
On 6 Mar 2006, at 3:00 PM, microformats-discuss- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Altitude on most retail-level GPS receivers is unreliable enough that regular users ignore it unless an answer to within a few hundred feet is useful. Agreed. I'm lucky if my Lat/Long is within 100 feet, let alone

[uf-discuss] Re: one citation microformat use case (Michael McCracken)

2006-02-14 Thread Ryan Cannon
it fn or full-name, right? This is merely a logical extension. I think this is a worthwhile undertaking. Other thoughts? If so I'll volunteer to take on MLA. -- Ryan Cannon Interactive Developer MSI Student, School of Information University of Michigan http://RyanCannon.com/ On 14 Feb 2006

[uf-discuss] Re: one citation microformat use case (Michael McCracken)

2006-02-13 Thread Ryan Cannon
and tools to better understand the information. -- Ryan Cannon Interactive Developer MSI Student, School of Information University of Michigan http://RyanCannon.com/ On 11 Feb 2006, at 3:00 PM, microformats-discuss- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: 2 Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 19:25:48 -0800

[uf-discuss] XMDP Definitions

2006-02-09 Thread Ryan Cannon
. Multiple values may be specified by a space-separated list. dl dt id=valueOne ddValue one is special/dd dt id=valueTwo ddValue Two is more special/dd /dl /dd /dl Cheers, -- Ryan Cannon Interactive Developer MSI Student, School of Information

Re: [uf-discuss] citation microformat?

2006-01-18 Thread Ryan Cannon
to this game, but enthused. Let me know how to help. Cheers, The Other Ryan -- Ryan Cannon Interactive Developer MSI Student, School of Information University of Michigan http://RyanCannon.com/ ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss

Re: [uf-discuss] The need for a Trackback microformat?

2005-12-02 Thread Ryan Cannon
With that said rel-enclosure doesn't make a whole lot of sense. It says relEnclosure is one of several microformats. By adding rel=enclosure to a hyperlink, a page indicates that the destination of that hyperlink is intended to be downloaded and cached. *Any* link indicates that the