Re: [uf-new] First draft of hAudio proposal

2007-05-04 Thread Martin McEvoy
Manu I had a thought about collections I would like to share with you, If we look at collections in the most basic way we can this may give us an Idea of what is meant by collection? So... I look at my pile of books and think that these books need organizing in some way they are no good scattered

Re: [uf-new] First draft of hAudio proposal

2007-05-02 Thread Martin McEvoy
On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 20:57 -0500, Scott Reynen wrote: On May 1, 2007, at 7:49 PM, Manu Sporny wrote: acquire. optional. using rel-design-pattern with acquire as the mf-rel-value. --- there is aleady the 'enclosure' used for ATOM and Podcasts Again, Martin is correct - enclosure is

Re: [uf-new] First draft of hAudio proposal

2007-05-02 Thread Scott Reynen
On May 2, 2007, at 6:05 AM, David Janes wrote: While (very) sympathetic to Andy's point about this, we're getting to the danger point of semantically forking rel-tag. I suspect you will get strong pushback on this one, because the current approach is to use rel-tag for this, and if that needs

Re: [uf-new] First draft of hAudio proposal

2007-05-02 Thread Manu Sporny
Martin McEvoy wrote: Manu first I would like to say that I understand what you are trying to do with the . my example would be class=collection the parent or group, class=collection.Track_1 is my child or item, class=collection.Track_2 is another child or item, It simpler and works but I

Re: [uf-new] First draft of hAudio proposal

2007-05-02 Thread Manu Sporny
Frances Berriman wrote: I like this though. Again, looking at this newly - why isn't audio being used as a subclass of media? The above example using collections could just as easily be talking about a collection of photographs, for example. I saw a quick flash of a mention about media

Re: [uf-new] First draft of hAudio proposal

2007-05-02 Thread Brian Suda
On 5/2/07, Manu Sporny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not opposed to using a different separator. Although, I don't think the separator is what most are concerned about on the list. Most of the concern is coming from the following two camps: * Are sparse groups really a problem?! [1] * Names

Re: [uf-new] First draft of hAudio proposal

2007-05-02 Thread James Craig
Frances Berriman wrote: Martin McEvoy wrote: li span class=item span class=work-title a href=http://link-to-download/1; rel=acquireTrack_1/a /span /span /li It'd be a bit lighter with the item on each li in this example, eh? :) What if you

Re: [uf-new] First draft of hAudio proposal

2007-05-02 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Janes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes hAudio (haudio) - title. required. text. title is already taken to mean something else, so TITLE is not an option. hCard uses TITLE for job-title. I would suggest FN instead. We could use FN, but 'work-title' is far

Re: [uf-new] First draft of hAudio proposal

2007-05-02 Thread Frances Berriman
On 02/05/07, Brian Suda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can this problem be solved without inventing a new format? Can this be solved by extending an existing format? Can this be solved by creating small building block formats that can be reused in other formats? Can this be solved only be creating a

Re: [uf-new] First draft of hAudio proposal

2007-05-02 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Janes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On 5/2/07, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Janes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes If you mean what most people do by title, then FN is the correct thing to use. How does that square with

Re: [uf-new] First draft of hAudio proposal

2007-05-02 Thread Paul Wilkins
From: Manu Sporny [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scott Reynen wrote: If nothing else is changing here, I think rel values should be nouns, not verbs. I think all of the existing rel values in microformats fit this pattern, and it's good to be able to say this page and that page have a relationship of

Re: [uf-new] First draft of hAudio proposal

2007-05-02 Thread Manu Sporny
Scott Reynen wrote: As the analysis shows - we need a solution that can do both sparse and non-sparse grouping. All of the non-name-space-based solutions proposed thus far do not support sparse grouping. Can you point out some actual examples of what you're calling sparse? Definition of

Re: [uf-new] First draft of hAudio proposal

2007-05-02 Thread Scott Reynen
On May 2, 2007, at 5:14 PM, Manu Sporny wrote: Note that the song should be grouped with the podcast AND the album. That understanding is clear from viewing the page: http://www.coverville.com/archives/2007/04/coverville_313.html The podcast can already use hAtom. Here's how we could do

[uf-new] First draft of hAudio proposal

2007-05-01 Thread Manu Sporny
We need feedback on the hAudio Microformat proposal. http://microformats.org/wiki/audio-info-proposal All examples, formats and brainstorming can be found here: http://microformats.org/wiki/audio-info-examples http://microformats.org/wiki/audio-info-formats

Re: [uf-new] First draft of hAudio proposal

2007-05-01 Thread James Craig
Manu Sporny wrote: We need feedback on the hAudio Microformat proposal. http://microformats.org/wiki/audio-info-proposal As an accessibility note, the following links use the same link text to different URLs. See the following quote noting, Link text should be meaningful enough to make

Re: [uf-new] First draft of hAudio proposal

2007-05-01 Thread Martin McEvoy
On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 17:37 +, Brian Suda wrote: On 5/1/07, Manu Sporny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We need feedback on the hAudio Microformat proposal. hAudio (haudio) - title. required. text. title is already taken to mean something else, so TITLE is not an option. hCard uses

Re: [uf-new] First draft of hAudio proposal

2007-05-01 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Brian Suda [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes hAudio (haudio) - title. required. text. title is already taken to mean something else, so TITLE is not an option. hCard uses TITLE for job-title. I would suggest FN instead. or something like audio-title; leaving room for

Re: [uf-new] First draft of hAudio proposal

2007-05-01 Thread Ben Wiley Sittler
On 5/1/07, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Brian Suda [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes [snip] --- genre sounds alot like TAGS or CATEGORIES to me? we should recycle terms in existing microformats Not all publishers wish to mark up such labels as links. you can

Re: [uf-new] First draft of hAudio proposal

2007-05-01 Thread James Craig
Manu Sporny wrote: James Craig wrote: Manu Sporny wrote: We need feedback on the hAudio Microformat proposal. http://microformats.org/wiki/audio-info-proposal As an accessibility note, the following links use the same link text to different URLs. That text was taken directly from the