Re: man pages conflict or clarification for mount_vnd, newfs and man 5 disklabel

2009-08-05 Thread leon zadorin
On 8/5/09, leon zadorin leonleo...@gmail.com wrote: On 8/5/09, Otto Moerbeek o...@drijf.net wrote: I don't have time now to test your scenario. But I'm pretty sure your test will fail the moment non-default fragment or blocksizes are used in such a way that the first alternate superblock does

Re: man pages conflict or clarification for mount_vnd, newfs and man 5 disklabel

2009-08-05 Thread leon zadorin
On 8/5/09, leon zadorin leonleo...@gmail.com wrote: In the examples of *corrupted* superblocks though there appears not to be much difference -- i.e. disk sectors hosting the starting superblock being corrupted vs disk sectors hosting disklabel being corrupted: both are irrecoverable (?)

Re: man pages conflict or clarification for mount_vnd, newfs and man 5 disklabel

2009-08-05 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 05:16:10PM +1000, leon zadorin wrote: On 8/5/09, leon zadorin leonleo...@gmail.com wrote: On 8/5/09, Otto Moerbeek o...@drijf.net wrote: I don't have time now to test your scenario. But I'm pretty sure your test will fail the moment non-default fragment or

Re: ypldap, NULL domain !

2009-08-05 Thread Pierre-Yves Ritschard
* Wijnand Wiersma (wijn...@videre.net) wrote: Hi, I am trying to get ypldap working on a very recent snapshot and I can't figure out what I am doing wrong. It seems ypldap is working just fine: # ypldap -dv startup [debug mode] configuration starting applying configuration connecting to

wscons don't generate keyboard sequences as defined in terminfo db for vt220 [was: Re: F1-F10, 'HOME', 'END' keys.]

2009-08-05 Thread Hugo Villeneuve
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 08:49:15PM +, 4625 wrote: How to achieve the adequate behaviour on pressing keys F1-F10 in GoldED+ (message editor); 'HOME' - return to begin of line, 'END' - end of line in bash prompt and some text/message editors? I will explain the problem. Golded+: F1-F5

Re: man pages conflict or clarification for mount_vnd, newfs and man 5 disklabel

2009-08-05 Thread leon zadorin
On 8/5/09, Otto Moerbeek o...@drijf.net wrote: The big difference is that a disklabel is relatively easy to recover (the system even makes backups for your automatically). The label is in a fixed spot, and there is a tool (disklabel(8)) to rewrite it. Automatic backup sounds nice. Although I

Re: man pages conflict or clarification for mount_vnd, newfs and man 5 disklabel

2009-08-05 Thread leon zadorin
On 8/5/09, leon zadorin leonleo...@gmail.com wrote: On 8/5/09, Otto Moerbeek o...@drijf.net wrote: The big difference is that a disklabel is relatively easy to recover (the system even makes backups for your automatically). The label is in a fixed spot, and there is a tool (disklabel(8)) to

Re: ThinkPad X301 / OpenBSD

2009-08-05 Thread Rune Lynge
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 11:14 PM, Nick Humphreynick...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone had experience of running OpenBSD on a Lenovo ThinkPad X301? Thoughts, caveats, quirks? X301 2776 NRFLEMD, 128 GB SSD, bios 3.01-1.04 running amd64 4.6-current mp: - iwn works with the 5.1p0.tgz firmware, newer

Re: tcp proxy

2009-08-05 Thread Lars Nooden
irix wrote: Hello Misc, Maybe something to meet a simple tcp proxy with the function of bandwidth limiting the possibility of job parameters for each individual ip to work well on OpenBSD? That sounds like functionality currently in PF. Take a look at pf.conf(5) in great detail:

Re: Problems using SUNIX 8 serial port card

2009-08-05 Thread Laurent Salle
Fred Crowson wrote: On 8/4/09, Laurent Salle lsa...@taciturne.net wrote: I'm having problems using a Sunix PCI card with 8 serial port on a Soekris board. This hardware will be used as a console server: each of the 8 serial ports will be attached to the console of other Soekris box to

Thinkpad SL500

2009-08-05 Thread Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez
Hi, Somebody is offering me a Lenovo Thinkpad SL500 (model: 1733385, 2746MJU). It would be nice to know about other users experience with this model on OpenBSD. Regards, Alvaro

art(4): how to debug card or line errors?

2009-08-05 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, I'm experiencing problems with an E1 line, and would very much like to be sure that the other end is to blame, instead of me. Unfortunately, I don't see how to get sufficiently detailed information from the card to find out whether this is a line problem, or a card's problem. The problem set

Re: [SOLVED, sort of] Re: 'ps auwx' and 'top': inconsistent display?

2009-08-05 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Sat, 01.08.2009 at 17:13:43 +0300, Jussi Peltola pe...@pelzi.net wrote: Why should fork touch user id's? I was under the impression that only the effective userid should be inherited by a forked process, not the real user id. Also, the inconsistency in the display of the tools doesn't

Re: Problems using SUNIX 8 serial port card

2009-08-05 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2009-08-05, Laurent Salle lsa...@taciturne.net wrote: To use the 8th port, I use: # cu -l cua0a -s 19200 and I get garbled text, almost like when the baudrate is not correctly set. Perhaps the multiplier in the puc(4) driver is wrong for this card, in which case setting a particular speed

Re: [SOLVED, sort of] Re: 'ps auwx' and 'top': inconsistent display?

2009-08-05 Thread Henning Brauer
* Toni Mueller openbsd-m...@oeko.net [2009-08-05 13:18]: On Sat, 01.08.2009 at 17:13:43 +0300, Jussi Peltola pe...@pelzi.net wrote: Why should fork touch user id's? I was under the impression that only the effective userid should be inherited by a forked process, not the real user id.

relayd error message (check ssl)

2009-08-05 Thread Nice Daemon
Hi list, I'm setting up a replacement for a customers' current Alteon Load Balancers, using OpenBSD, pf, and relayd. First of all: Thanks, guys, this is faboulous stuff! Having experiences with Linux' LVS and stuff, this is like a very nice, fresh breeze... I remember the Haiku that was posted

Re: relayd error message (check ssl)

2009-08-05 Thread Reyk Floeter
hi, do you have more details, like the tested relayd.conf lines, about the 'check send' problem? reyk On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 02:54:58PM +0200, Nice Daemon wrote: Hi list, I'm setting up a replacement for a customers' current Alteon Load Balancers, using OpenBSD, pf, and relayd. First

Re: Delete packages with dependencies

2009-08-05 Thread Daniele Pilenga
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 11:11:17AM -0400, Luis Useche wrote: Hello Guys, I was wondering if there is some tool that delete the packages specified along with their deletable dependencies. Deletable means packages that pkg_add added automatically (as dependencies of the installed one) and are

Re: PF enabled - decreased performance

2009-08-05 Thread Ivo Chutkin
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Re: Delete packages with dependencies

2009-08-05 Thread Mike Erdely
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 11:11:17AM -0400, Luis Useche wrote: Hello Guys, I was wondering if there is some tool that delete the packages specified along with their deletable dependencies. Deletable means packages that pkg_add added automatically (as dependencies of the installed one) and are

Re: [SOLVED, sort of] Re: 'ps auwx' and 'top': inconsistent display?

2009-08-05 Thread Philip Guenther
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 4:10 AM, Toni Muelleropenbsd-m...@oeko.net wrote: On Sat, 01.08.2009 at 17:13:43 +0300, Jussi Peltola pe...@pelzi.net wrote: Why should fork touch user id's? I was under the impression that only the effective userid should be inherited by a forked process, not the real

Re: complete restore using NFS

2009-08-05 Thread Edd Barrett
Hi, On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Stuart Hendersons...@spacehopper.org wrote: NFS isn't available on the install media, It is on some install media. Try a BSDanywhere livecd? http://bsdanywhere.org/ -- Best Regards Edd Barrett (Freelance software developer / technical writer /

Support for DVB tuner cards

2009-08-05 Thread Jan-Erik Skata
Is there any support for PCI DVB tuner cards? I was thinking to set up my OpenBSD firewall/server as an IPTV server for my internal network. The idea is that I would be able to connect to it with Kaffeine or VLC from my Linux machines. Currently using the card (Technotrend DVB-C) with the

Re: Support for DVB tuner cards

2009-08-05 Thread Diana Eichert
Nope I run a couple Genpix Skywalker tuners under Linux. If you developed DVB tuner support I'm sure there are people who would be willing to test it, especially if tied in with support for a Conditional Access Module (CAM). diana On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, Jan-Erik Skata wrote: Is there any

boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread PJ
What am I missing here? Burning the iso image of install45.iso does not create a bootable disk. This is not a very good beginning for someone who has just decided to trash FreeBSD. FBSDs disks boot with no problem... -- HervC) Kempf: Pour sauver la planC(te, sortez du capitalisme.

opensmtpd question

2009-08-05 Thread Peter J. Philipp
I've switched from postfix to opensmtpd. I have a small question. How do I alias the outgoing domain to the From: address? Something along the lines of postfix's: myorigin = $mydomain Pretend the From is r...@caliban.solarscale.de (caliban doesn't exist, but it's the hostname of this host

Re: Delete packages with dependencies

2009-08-05 Thread Stephen Takacs
Luis Useche wrote: It seems like an additional information should be added to the package database. A bit indicating if the package was installed manually by the user (admin?) or not. Then, the package can only be deleted if the the user explicitly say so as oppose to automatic deletion as

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca writes: Burning the iso image of install45.iso does not create a bootable disk. Strange. The installNN.iso images are definitely meant to be bootable. When I have not had easy access to a real CD set, I have at times booted and installed machines from disks burned

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread Jason McIntyre
On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 03:15:13PM -0400, PJ wrote: What am I missing here? Burning the iso image of install45.iso does not create a bootable disk. This is not a very good beginning for someone who has just decided to trash FreeBSD. FBSDs disks boot with no problem... it would help if you

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread neal hogan
On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 03:15:13PM -0400, PJ wrote: What am I missing here? Burning the iso image of install45.iso does not create a bootable disk. It's gotta be something you're doing, for 4.5 has been around for a while (since May) and would have been fixed by now, if it were a problem.

Re: Long time to connect to MySQL server on sparc64

2009-08-05 Thread MPrik
I have no knowledge of the procces tracing. Can anybody explain me what this ktrace output represent, please? The man pages didn't help. The marked segment is probably that problem, the delay when connecting to mysql, because is repeated many times. . . . 9344 mysqld RET fcntl 6 9344

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread Nick Holland
PJ wrote: What am I missing here? Burning the iso image of install45.iso does not create a bootable disk. Yes, it does. This is not a very good beginning for someone who has just decided to trash FreeBSD. FBSDs disks boot with no problem... As do properly created OpenBSD boot disks. Give

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread STeve Andre'
On Wednesday 05 August 2009 15:15:13 PJ wrote: What am I missing here? Burning the iso image of install45.iso does not create a bootable disk. This is not a very good beginning for someone who has just decided to trash FreeBSD. FBSDs disks boot with no problem... It would help very much if

Re: wscons don't generate keyboard sequences as defined in terminfo db for vt220 [was: Re: F1-F10, 'HOME', 'END' keys.]

2009-08-05 Thread 4625
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, Hugo Villeneuve wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 08:49:15PM +, 4625 wrote: How to achieve the adequate behaviour on pressing keys F1-F10 in GoldED+ (message editor); 'HOME' - return to begin of line, 'END' - end of line in bash prompt and some text/message editors? I

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread PJ
STeve Andre' wrote: On Wednesday 05 August 2009 15:15:13 PJ wrote: What am I missing here? Burning the iso image of install45.iso does not create a bootable disk. This is not a very good beginning for someone who has just decided to trash FreeBSD. FBSDs disks boot with no problem...

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread Theo de Raadt
It doesn't take much to look at the contents of the ISO file and see that it won't boot. But I guess I'm a glutton for frustration and I was just laughing at myself. Now what. This is a great start for a new system. Your attitude stinks. Good luck with life.

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca writes: It doesn't take much to look at the contents of the ISO file and see that it won't boot. Assuming you're not just trolling, this sounds very much like a corrupted download. They *do* happen from time to time. Check whether your .iso file matches the MD5

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread PJ
Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca writes: Burning the iso image of install45.iso does not create a bootable disk. Strange. The installNN.iso images are definitely meant to be bootable. When I have not had easy access to a real CD set, I have at times booted

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread Liam J. Foy
PJ wrote: Unless, of course the booting is supposed to be done in some incomprehesible way from some other operating system in some mysterious way that is not spelled out anywhere where I can find it, anyway. :-) You've done it wrong. Sure as eggs are eggs you did it wrong. Promise! Sorry,

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread Daniel Bolgheroni
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, PJ wrote: It's not I who is having problems. I think it's OpenBSD. I think you're not trying to help yourself. Even you beeing ironic in your first message, people are trying to help. -- Daniel Bolgheroni FEI - Faculdade de Engenharia Industrial

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread Nick Guenther
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 6:08 PM, PJaf.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: It really pisses me off that everyone assumes that the poor sap who is asking for help is too stupid to have done things right and they just forget that maybe the problem is in the SOURCE ! I know

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread neal hogan
having any problems... and I mean, EVER ! Burning CD images to DVD media does not always work, for example (probably a stupid one that risks insistent contradictions, but well,), so any detail you supply could be helpful in sorting out whatever the problem is. It really pisses me off

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread Theo de Raadt
having any problems... and I mean, EVER ! Burning CD images to DVD media does not always work, for example (probably a stupid one that risks insistent contradictions, but well,), so any detail you supply could be helpful in sorting out whatever the problem is. It really pisses me

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread Nixdevnull
PJ wrote: Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca writes: Once you've cleared that hurdle, It would help a lot with more details about the hardware, what image file you are using and where it came from (ie is it the i386 one, the amd64 one, off an official mirror site, or

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread Josh Grosse
On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 06:08:33PM -0400, PJ wrote: I know what a bootable image usually looks like... but neither of those I downloaded look right. Unless, of course the booting is supposed to be done in some incomprehesible way from some other operating system in some mysterious way that is

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca writes: The first question should probably be, did you verify that the .iso file matched the checksum before you burned it to disk? Checksums match! Show me. I need to see the exact command and any output. I already posted wherefrom - openBSD ftp site; the

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread Nick Bender
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 6:08 PM, PJaf.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: Once you've cleared that hurdle, It would help a lot with more details about the hardware, what image file you are using and where it came from (ie is it the i386 one, the amd64 one, off an official

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread Paul D. Ouderkirk
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Peter N. M. Hansteenpe...@bsdly.net wrote: PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca writes: The first question should probably be, did you verify that the .iso file matched the checksum before you burned it to disk? Checksums match! Show me. I need to see the exact command

Re: Delete packages with dependencies

2009-08-05 Thread Luis Useche
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Stephen Takacsperl...@gmail.com wrote: Luis Useche wrote: It seems like an additional information should be added to the package database. A bit indicating if the package was installed manually by the user (admin?) or not. Then, the package can only be deleted

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread Tony Abernethy
Nick Bender wrote: On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 6:08 PM, PJaf.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: Once you've cleared that hurdle, It would help a lot with more details about the hardware, what image file you are using and where it came from (ie is it the i386 one, the

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread neal hogan
WOW! You are an over-reacting baby! I want to apologize to the oBSD community for suggesting that this guy move to oBSD. He indicated that he was having difficulties with fBSD (for years) on an fBSD mailing-list and I thought I'd lend a hand. I'm sorry that I did. I saw your post

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread Marcus Watts
PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca writes: ... It's not I who is having problems. I think it's OpenBSD. Assigning blame before resolving the problem is counter-productive. It doesn't take much to look at the contents of the ISO file and see that it won't boot. But I guess I'm a glutton for

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread PJ
Nick Guenther wrote: On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 6:08 PM, PJaf.gour...@videotron.ca wrote: Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: It really pisses me off that everyone assumes that the poor sap who is asking for help is too stupid to have done things right and they just forget that maybe the

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread PJ
Marcus Watts wrote: PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca writes: ... It's not I who is having problems. I think it's OpenBSD. Assigning blame before resolving the problem is counter-productive. It doesn't take much to look at the contents of the ISO file and see that it won't boot.

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread Bofh (Peter Kay)
PJ wrote: It really pisses me off that everyone assumes that the poor sap who is asking for help is too stupid to have done things right and they just forget that maybe the problem is in the SOURCE ! I know what a bootable image usually looks like... but neither of those I downloaded look

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread neal hogan
Temper, temper. If anyone had taken seriously all the problems and hormanure I have had to put up with for the last two they would have either gone out and done something stupid to someone else or to themselves... I have to vent my frustrations somewhere and whatever got in the way was

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread Jason Dixon
On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 07:25:25PM -0500, neal hogan wrote: Temper, temper. If anyone had taken seriously all the problems and hormanure I have had to put up with for the last two they would have either gone out and done something stupid to someone else or to themselves... I have to

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread Theo de Raadt
The OpenBSD community is a very fun and helpful bunch. But we're not good at suffering fools or assholes. Oh come now... we are very good at making fools and assholes suffer.

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread Bob Beck
I saw your post on that list, and I knew he was coming, so I shipped out a broken snapshot to cause him harm, on purpose. Be sure to let us know if it i being reccommended on freebsd or linux lists in the next week and we filesystem developers will try to make sure the tree is well and truly

Re: Delete packages with dependencies

2009-08-05 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 06:58:48PM -0400, Luis Useche wrote: On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Stephen Takacsperl...@gmail.com wrote: Luis Useche wrote: It seems like an additional information should be added to the package database. A bit indicating if the package was installed manually by

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread Noah Pugsley
PJ wrote: This is a great start for a new system. Temper, temper. If anyone had taken seriously all the problems and hormanure I have had to put up with for the last two they would have either gone out and done something stupid to someone else or to themselves... I have to vent my

Re: boot disk ???

2009-08-05 Thread STeve Andre'
On Wednesday 05 August 2009 20:40:50 Theo de Raadt wrote: The OpenBSD community is a very fun and helpful bunch. But we're not good at suffering fools or assholes. Oh come now... we are very good at making fools and assholes suffer. What I want to know is why we haven't heard from Grumpy

Re: Delete packages with dependencies

2009-08-05 Thread Luis Useche
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Jacob Meuserjake...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote: On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 06:58:48PM -0400, Luis Useche wrote: On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Stephen Takacsperl...@gmail.com wrote: Luis Useche wrote: It seems like an additional information should be added to the

Re: Delete packages with dependencies

2009-08-05 Thread Jacob Meuser
some further thoughts ... On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 01:32:07AM +, Jacob Meuser wrote: On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 06:58:48PM -0400, Luis Useche wrote: On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Stephen Takacsperl...@gmail.com wrote: Luis Useche wrote: It seems like an additional information should be

Re: Delete packages with dependencies

2009-08-05 Thread Ted Unangst
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Luis Usecheuse...@gmail.com wrote: I see this as a really unlikely scenario. Besides, it probably will take more time but you won't have unecessary files you don't need in your system. This could be translated into more space consumed, increased fsck times and

How to activate extensions after compiling php5 core and extensions? No instructions!

2009-08-05 Thread Andres Salazar
Hello, OpenBSD 4.5 stable I have done the following: cd /usr/ports/www/php5/core; make; make install; cd /usr/ports/www/php5/extensions; make; make intall; That according to pkg_info installed: php5-core-5.2.10server-side HTML-embedded scripting language php5-extensions-5.2.10

Re: How to activate extensions after compiling php5 core and extensions? No instructions!

2009-08-05 Thread Bryan
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 20:25, Andres Salazarndrsslz...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, OpenBSD 4.5 stable I have done the following: cd /usr/ports/www/php5/core; make; make install; cd /usr/ports/www/php5/extensions; make; make intall; That according to pkg_info installed: php5-core-5.2.10 B