Re: In all fairness! It's a big misunderstanding

2005-10-20 Thread Wolfpaw - Dale Corse
That's some sad shit Theo. She apologized.. Sheesh. Flame me for it .. But someone had to say it. Come on Guys. What's your specific issue, Sophie? Maybe someone else can help? D. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sophie L Sent:

Re: Guruness (was the bug report thread)

2005-10-19 Thread Wolfpaw - Dale Corse
Heya :) well, I don't know about BSD in general, but just try it with OpenBSD. If the machine is generally capable of this task (has the mem and power to suppert n sessions in parallel), it's just your task as admin to make it happen. The means are there. If your users bring down your

Re: Guruness (was the bug report thread)

2005-10-19 Thread Wolfpaw - Dale Corse
* Wolfpaw - Dale Corse [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-10-19 05:13]: you, BSD does not stand up to it .. Now I admit - it was years ago, and it was FreeBSD that we tried yeah yeah, and we all know that OpenBSD is just ErsatzFreiBSD with another name on it, right? sheesh. Correct me if I am

Re: Guruness (was the bug report thread)

2005-10-19 Thread Wolfpaw - Dale Corse
You may well be right, though I would say that the amount of Code changes users would be required to do, to make it work Would end up in my lap, seeing as there are some things OpenBSD's Kernel does not have, or has fairly out of date versions of One example I can think of is

Re: Guruness (was the bug report thread)

2005-10-19 Thread Wolfpaw - Dale Corse
I wasn't whining - again - how the hell is justifying what I said whining? You are saying our libpcap is buggy, but you fail to justify that claim. No I didn't, I said it was out of date. You want me to justify it? Here. Making all in . /bin/sh ./libtool --mode=link gcc -g -DIPV4_ONLY

FW: Guruness (was the bug report thread)

2005-10-19 Thread Wolfpaw - Dale Corse
-Original Message- From: Wolfpaw - Dale Corse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 9:58 AM To: 'Henning Brauer' Subject: RE: Guruness (was the bug report thread) Correct me if I am wrong, but its still a monolithic kernel, based on the same

Re: Wolfpaw - Dale Corse

2005-10-19 Thread Wolfpaw - Dale Corse
, 2005 10:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Wolfpaw - Dale Corse People -- just ignore him. He may use OpenBSD, but if he can't stop himself from being a beligerant fool, not submitting the right reports, why bother wasting eveveryone's time by chit-chatting and arguing with him? Do

Re: Limiting Shell Access Damage (was Guruness)

2005-10-19 Thread Wolfpaw - Dale Corse
If you can port it, you can also use it on your own box, so where is the problem? No problem there.. Actually looking at the couple of functions I need here to see how difficult to integrate they would be. login.conf (5) Problem comes into play when a user starts say .. 50 Copies of

Re: Limiting Shell Access Damage (was Guruness)

2005-10-19 Thread Wolfpaw - Dale Corse
Turning this into a learning experience: Does anyone have any hints or advice about hardening OpenBSD for shell accounts. Do people tweak things other than the login.conf settings? I have to deal with student shell accounts where students are learning to program and often create

Re: Limiting Shell Access Damage (was Guruness)

2005-10-19 Thread Wolfpaw - Dale Corse
On 10/19/05, Wolfpaw - Dale Corse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: quickly. I try not to use limits, because it slows compiling to crap :( this makes no sense whatsoever. To clarify, if you limit someone's ram use to a certain point, or CPU use to a certain point, it will slow down compiling

Re: Limiting Shell Access Damage (was Guruness)

2005-10-19 Thread Wolfpaw - Dale Corse
Yes, that would be the idea of limiting resources. If I am given the ability to use 99% of the CPU compiling software, how is that different than me running a fork bomb and doing the same? In essanse I suppose it isn't - but if your (as in my case) selling shells, compiling is legitimate,

Re: iptables vs pf

2005-10-19 Thread Wolfpaw - Dale Corse
Edy Purnomo wrote: i suggested to my friend to replace his linux box to openbsd. he uses mailnly for internet gateway : pf + squid proxy after 2 weeks later he switched it back linux and said : linux much faster to respond the http requests (he had a same configuration on openbsd,

Re: OpenBSD Kernel Crash in uvm_fault or uvm_rb_remove (not quite sure which it originates from)

2005-10-18 Thread Wolfpaw - Dale Corse
It dropped to DDB (because I forgot to disable it :( and I did The following: First thing you should probably do is actually read what is on the screen and actually send the output of ps, trace and a dmesg(8). Else, you're not going to get much reliable support. RTFM -- it's a good

Re: OpenBSD's 10th birthday

2005-10-18 Thread Wolfpaw - Dale Corse
Happy Birthday to OpenBSD, and kudos to the devs for a brilliant product :) We love it :) -D. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Gunderson Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 9:17 AM To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD's 10th

Re: OpenBSD Kernel Crash in uvm_fault or uvm_rb_remove (not quite sure which it originates from)

2005-10-18 Thread Wolfpaw - Dale Corse
Shrug.. Ok .. I'll keep my bug reports to myself from here on in, since it seems someone asking for some help, which may not realize the information provided was not entirely what was required is to receive a fairly rude reply, which, rather then saying - hey, please send this.. It would be

Re: OpenBSD Kernel Crash in uvm_fault or uvm_rb_remove (not quite sure which it originates from)

2005-10-18 Thread Wolfpaw - Dale Corse
Hessler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 11:35 AM To: Wolfpaw - Dale Corse Cc: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD Kernel Crash in uvm_fault or uvm_rb_remove (not quite sure which it originates from) You refused to follow the instructions printed on the screen

Re: OpenBSD Kernel Crash in uvm_fault or uvm_rb_remove (not quite sure which it originates from)

2005-10-18 Thread Wolfpaw - Dale Corse
You're kidding, right? Nope.. Apparently I suffer from lack of sleep, and GDB syndrome, I looked right at the crash line, and didn't even pay attention to what was above it. My apologies for that - didn't even notice it. You were asked to send a ps and a trace. You sent what you thought was

Re: Guruness (was the bug report thread)

2005-10-18 Thread Wolfpaw - Dale Corse
asked 100 times (Just last week :) That is my simple 2 cents - love me, hate me, whatever. -D. -Original Message- From: Spruell, Darren-Perot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:03 PM To: 'Wolfpaw - Dale Corse' Subject: RE: OpenBSD Kernel Crash in uvm_fault

Re: Guruness (was the bug report thread)

2005-10-18 Thread Wolfpaw - Dale Corse
snip for brevity Diddo. - That also being said, as Darren pointed out below, we have a group of people on this list, in particular the devs (but others too I am sure) that have some serious UNIX skills. I personally, came from the Linux Cisco world primarily, but Unix has its