On Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 12:21:45AM +0930, Brett Lymn wrote:
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 04:11:01PM +0200, Artur Grabowski wrote:
Seriously. You really don't see the correlation between using something
and finding bugs? What planet are you from?
Quite a strong correlation actually Art.
On Mon, Jul 11, 2005 at 03:09:42PM -0401, Nick Holland wrote:
Let's see...what possibly fanless, low-power platforms do we have?
...
i386..ok, but you can native build on on Really Fast Stuff.
Uh huh... unless your Really Fast Stuff happens to be an amd64 box in
which case you are no
Brett Lymn wrote:
On Mon, Jul 11, 2005 at 03:09:42PM -0401, Nick Holland wrote:
Let's see...what possibly fanless, low-power platforms do we have?
...
i386..ok, but you can native build on on Really Fast Stuff.
Uh huh... unless your Really Fast Stuff happens to be an amd64 box in
which
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 07:10:02AM -0400, Nick Holland wrote:
a bit of a disconnect with reality.
You need your build done in half an hour rather than an hour?
This argument line is nonsense. If you bought an amd64 to back up your
Soekris box, you blew it.
That statement assumes too much
Brett Lymn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
ASSUMING YOU EVER SEE IT.
If you don't see a bug, you ship crap.
That applies for both native and cross-built. THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE
AN UNSEEN BUG MAY BE THERE REGARDLESS. It has happened in the past to
OpenBSD and it may just happen again.
On Sun, Jul 10, 2005 at 03:38:29PM -0400, Nick Holland wrote:
If your machine is too slow to do what you need it to do, you need a
faster machine. Cross compiling is not the answer to your problem.
Not so Nick. There may be some cases where you deliberately have a
slow machine for reasons
Brett Lymn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Not so Nick. There may be some cases where you deliberately have a
slow machine for reasons of power consumption/heat disappation,
perhaps a fanless machine, you want to update. Or just that the
fastest machine in the architecture you are targeting falls
On Mon, Jul 11, 2005 at 02:09:14PM +0200, Artur Grabowski wrote:
People with special needs also have the budgets to hire people who solve
the problem for them. If you can't afford it - don't get yourself special
needs.
and don't become a developer for one of the slower architectures...
Brett Lymn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Not cross compiling and actively discouraging cross compilation is why
all OpenBSD architectures are constantly stress tested and therefore
relatively stable while some other projects that shall not be named
don't even have working boot blocks for the
On Mon, Jul 11, 2005 at 08:28:05PM +0930, Brett Lymn wrote:
On Sun, Jul 10, 2005 at 03:38:29PM -0400, Nick Holland wrote:
If your machine is too slow to do what you need it to do, you need a
faster machine. Cross compiling is not the answer to your problem.
Not so Nick. There may be
Maslan 10-Jul-05 08:16
On 7/10/05, Maslan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Pain let u learn more, besides i've some extra time. i used to make
my own LFS, and i missing this in BSD.
but what things i should consifer when trying so.
the compiler are almost the same gcc.
Almost the same?
Have
Thanks alot
for making it clear, gcc will be another problem.
but sometimes u really need to cross-compile os on another one as in
case of hurd.
On 7/10/05, Tom Cosgrove [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maslan 10-Jul-05 08:16
On 7/10/05, Maslan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Pain let u learn more,
Maslan 10-Jul-05 09:50
Thanks alot
for making it clear, gcc will be another problem.
but sometimes u really need to cross-compile os on another one as in
case of hurd.
Sigh. The Hurd home page says GNU/Hurd.. is completely self-contained
(you can compile all parts of it using GNU itself).
On Sun, Jul 10, 2005 at 10:54:45AM +0100, Tom Cosgrove wrote:
BSD (whether OpenBSD or any other flavor) is not Linux or anything else
like that. It is a complete operating system, in use in production in
many places.
No need to go to Hurd. NetBSD is able to be built on a foreign
On July 10, 2005 1:56 am, Tom Cosgrove wrote:
Maslan 10-Jul-05 08:16
On 7/10/05, Maslan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Pain let u learn more, besides i've some extra time. i used to make
my own LFS, and i missing this in BSD.
but what things i should consifer when trying so.
the
Sean Brown wrote:
On July 10, 2005 1:56 am, Tom Cosgrove wrote:
...
OpenBSD is an entire operating system, designed to
be built on OpenBSD - and not even cross-compiled on a different
processor architecture of the same operating system.
Which would be all well and good if it wern't for the
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