Re: FDE disk setup instructions are misleading when installing from USB

2021-01-24 Thread tetrahedra
On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 04:25:39PM -0800, Bryan Wright wrote: Perhaps someone will make some changes to the installer or documentation. But, I can tell you, a diff, or at least a proposed specific solution, will always go a lot further than pointing out a potential problem, simply because

Re: FDE disk setup instructions are misleading when installing from USB

2021-01-24 Thread Mihai Popescu
> I am therefore extremely grateful to Cullum Smith and the other "OpenBSD on a > laptop" howtos for making it feasible to get this far. Go get grateful on that blog's address and stop spamming here, please. Your point is totally wrong. Totally!

Re: FDE disk setup instructions are misleading when installing from USB

2021-01-23 Thread Bryan Wright
> On Jan 23, 2021, at 09:34, tetrahe...@danwin1210.me wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 04:44:31PM -0800, Bryan Wright wrote: >> >> >>> but to set up FDE I had to reference the official FAQ >> >> Referring to the official documentation is a key distinction between >> successful OpenBSD

Re: FDE disk setup instructions are misleading when installing from USB

2021-01-23 Thread tetrahedra
On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 04:44:31PM -0800, Bryan Wright wrote: but to set up FDE I had to reference the official FAQ Referring to the official documentation is a key distinction between successful OpenBSD use and that of many other systems; the early that gets hammered home the better,

Re: FDE disk setup instructions are misleading when installing from USB

2021-01-23 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2021-01-22, Bryan Wright wrote: > Simply changing the example, though, won’t fix the problem of a user not > paying sufficient attention to protect themselves from themselves. The real fix for this would be to add proper support to the installer, at least for the simpler case of FDE

Re: FDE disk setup instructions are misleading when installing from USB

2021-01-22 Thread tetrahedra
On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 02:39:25PM -0800, Bryan Wright wrote: Because, there is no guarantee that the drives will be loaded in a given order on boot, there would be little benefit in changing the example. If the entire page is read, everything should be clear enough, but if anything were to

FDE disk setup instructions are misleading when installing from USB

2021-01-22 Thread tetrahedra
When installing from a USB thumb drive, the machine's internal HDD usually shows up as sd0 and the thumb drive as sd1. However, the FDE installation instructions suggest that we should overwite the first 1MB of sd1 with zeros: # dd

Re: FDE disk setup instructions are misleading when installing from USB

2021-01-22 Thread Bryan Wright
> but to set up FDE I had to reference the official FAQ Referring to the official documentation is a key distinction between successful OpenBSD use and that of many other systems; the early that gets hammered home the better, right? It’s practically unGoogleable, if that’s a word. It can

Re: FDE disk setup instructions are misleading when installing from USB

2021-01-22 Thread Bryan Wright
Because, there is no guarantee that the drives will be loaded in a given order on boot, there would be little benefit in changing the example. If the entire page is read, everything should be clear enough, but if anything were to be done, perhaps there could be a reminder within each