The anchors are in the running rule set, per the man and faq examples,
right in the nat/rdr top-of-the-rule-set section, just not shown in the
(snip) included in the post. If they weren't there the user proxy
version of snip wouldn't be working.
Thanks for the link, it *may* be relevant; however,
The anchors are in the running rule set, per the man and faq examples,
right in the nat/rdr top-of-the-rule-set section, just not shown in the
(snip) included in the post. If they weren't there the user proxy
version of snip wouldn't be working.
Thanks for the link, it *may* be relevant; however,
On Dec 10, 2007, at 12:26 PM, Martin Schrvder wrote:
2007/12/10, Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
From what I have heard, OpenBSD does not contain non-free software
(though I am not sure whether it contains any non-free firmware
blobs). However, its ports system does suggest non-free
On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 01:15:11AM +1300, Joel Wiramu Pauling wrote:
Tip.
Don't allow password challenge. Problem solved. Just use key'd ssh and this
problem disappears.
Bin there, done that.
You answered the wrong question.
I want to know if and what I can do (on the server side) about
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007, Dongsheng Song wrote:
OpenBSD assume bios time is utc, but it's PRC, can I tell OpenBSD the
bios time zone?
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq8.html#TimeZone
--
Antoine
On 2007/12/10 19:58, Bret wrote:
The default route needs to be thru the wireless card and works fine untill I
add an IP for the wired lan vr() or I add it to the
bridge: up ral0
up ral1 -- works great (and yes the up)
but as soon as I add the vr0 the default route goes to the
On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 11:27:08PM -0500, Jason Dixon wrote:
Nobody is criticizing RMS over his opinion. They are criticizing him
for ignorance and misrepresentation of the facts regarding OpenBSD.
Actually, no, I am criticizing RMS over his opinion.
He's supposed to have dedicated his
Here is the background:
(yesterday)
I decided to CVSUP this morning and compiled the kernel. Unlike
yesterday, the boot hung right after the filesystem mounts/checks. I
thought maybe I had better be in sync with Userland, but make build
did nothing to rectify the situation.
I was very careful
Not sure what you're answer is. Yes, tag/tagged is off-tilt and being
worked. No, everything with ftp-proxy is fine, it's pilot error in the
rule set. Or little from A and little from B.
Shouldn't ftp-proxy set both its control and data channel needs
correctly via its anchors. Else-wise if it
I cvsup'd this morning. Now I can't compile any kernels. They all
hang at or near pcidevs_data.h
Rob
--
Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free
our minds Bob Marley, Redemption Song
On 11/12/2007, Marc Espie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You've got a choice of:
1/ complete idiot
2/ senile old fool disconnected from reality
3/ dangerous political activist with a hidden agenda
Also I like the way he posts and disappears.
This was fixed a bit later. Just update from CVS again...
Regards,
Andreas
On 11/12/2007, Rob Lytle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I cvsup'd this morning. Now I can't compile any kernels. They all
hang at or near pcidevs_data.h
Rob
--
Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but
Marc Espie wrote:
...
You've got a choice of:
Or
4) not up on the OpenBSD projects goals and current licensing requirements
Some of that is probably due to the low profile of OpenBSD (low-profile
is good, though) and the yammering of the FreeBSD crowd (which both
includes a lot of MSFTers,
On 12/11/07, Raimo Niskanen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I want to know if and what I can do (on the server side) about HTTP
clients that put sockets on my httpd server in state CLOSE_WAIT and
thereby chew up all sockets for the server causing a kind of
denial of service state.
And yes, I have
2007/12/11, Lars Noodin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
4) not up on the OpenBSD projects goals and current licensing requirements
You mean not interested. He got to meet Theo personally, so he could
easily stay informed -- if he wanted too.
Best
Martin
Thanks for All!
I'll be working in the source code of fxtv too. I'll wish that it record audio
in (48000Khz)
hmm, I will take a look at what's going on with fxtv.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org
On Dec 11, 2007, at 4:43 AM, Lars Noodin wrote:
Marc Espie wrote:
...
You've got a choice of:
Or
4) not up on the OpenBSD projects goals and current licensing
requirements
Some of that is probably due to the low profile of OpenBSD (low-
profile
is good, though) and the yammering of the
Lars NoodC)n [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Articles and other means of providing information about OpenBSD will
increase knowledge of OpenBSD.
Yes. I was pretty determined to stay out of this thread entirely, but
I think you touch on an important point here. Like most people who
have been in the
In particular, see http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/freedom-or-power.html.
yeah, right.
Since I consider non-free software to be unethical and antisocial,
LOL
I think it would be wrong for me to recommend it to others. Therefore,
if a collection of software contains (or suggests installation
Greetings,
A disk in one of the old firewalls (not exactly critical) failed
(running OpenBSD 2.9!), and I urgently
need a DNS server to work. Replaced the disk and installed 4.2.
Starting `named -g` (listing below),
produces a few surprising messages, like:
a) line 3: BIND trying to load
Hi,
mufurcz wrote:
Greetings,
A disk in one of the old firewalls (not exactly critical) failed
(running OpenBSD 2.9!), and I urgently
need a DNS server to work. Replaced the disk and installed 4.2.
Starting `named -g` (listing below),
produces a few surprising messages, like:
a) line 3:
I found a reference to commenting out tty03 in /etc/ttys. The
machine now boots. Why? I have no idea.
Rob.
--
Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free
our minds Bob Marley, Redemption Song
As a matter of policy, are -stable packages updated for security fixes?
I know that used to be the case, but as of today (40 days after 4.2 was
released), there are *no* 4.2-stable package updates shown at
http://www.openbsd.org/pkg-stable.html. In contrast, there are 183
4.1-stable updates
Greets
OK here is the update:
Internet
I
OpenBSD 4.2 (1) --- wired LAN
I
wireless card - 10.60.128.1
I
I
(the following is the problem box)
I
wireless card ral0 - 10.60.128.2
I
OpenBSD 4.2 (2) wired LAN em0 - 10.60.130.1
I
wireless card ral1 -
Greets
OK here is the update:
Internet
I
OpenBSD 4.2 (1) --- wired LAN
I
wireless card - 10.60.128.1
I
I
(the following is the problem box)
I
wireless card ral0 - 10.60.128.2
I
OpenBSD 4.2 (2) wired LAN em0 - 10.60.130.1
I
wireless card ral1 -
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007, Jonathan Thornburg wrote:
So, am I just lucky that no bugs-important-enough-for-stable-updates
have been found in any 4.2 packages yet? Is there somewere other than
http://www.openbsd.org/pkg-stable.html that I should be watching if I
want to keep -stable packages up to
On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 01:08:42AM +1100, mufurcz wrote:
Hi.
Greetings,
A disk in one of the old firewalls (not exactly critical) failed (running
OpenBSD 2.9!), and I urgently
need a DNS server to work. Replaced the disk and installed 4.2. Starting
`named -g` (listing below),
I borrowed a HUAWEI modem just to see how it is recognized.
With umass enabled it is recognized as a CD. Disabling umass and it is
found as ugen.
From this thread http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=118468178731619w=2
I figured it should have been recognized as ubsa. Any suggestions?
dmesg with
Gqmeg works so its either XMMS or the way XMMS controls the driver. I
will recompile XMMS.
--
Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free
our minds Bob Marley, Redemption Song
- Original Message -
From: Markus Bergkvist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I borrowed a HUAWEI modem just to see how it is recognized.
With umass enabled it is recognized as a CD. Disabling umass and it is
found as ugen.
From this thread http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=118468178731619w=2
I
Here is the dmesg. Note that I have #define AZALIA_DEBUG but there
are no debug messages.
OpenBSD 4.2-current (ROBKERN3) #0: Mon Dec 10 21:56:24 PST 2007
root@:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/ROBKERN3
cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7200 @ 2.00GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 2.01 GHz
cpu0:
On 2007/12/11 08:40, Bret wrote:
OK here is the update:
ral0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
ieee80211: nwid tri-statebroadband.com_2 chan 3 bssid
inet 10.60.128.2 netmask 0xc000 broadcast 10.60.191.255
ral1:
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007, Martin Schrvder wrote:
Get -stable ports fixed?
Lack of interest/man power.
--
Antoine
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:40:06 +0700, Bret [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Greets
OK here is the update:
Internet
I
OpenBSD 4.2 (1) --- wired LAN
I
wireless card - 10.60.128.1
I
I
(the following is the problem box)
I
wireless card ral0 - 10.60.128.2
I
OpenBSD 4.2
On Dec 11, 2007 12:58 AM, Dongsheng Song [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2007/12/11, Darren Spruell [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Dec 10, 2007 9:58 PM, Dongsheng Song [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OpenBSD assume bios time is utc, but it's PRC, can I tell OpenBSD the
bios time zone?
On Dec 11, 2007 11:26 AM, Nick Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Dec 11, 2007 12:58 AM, Dongsheng Song [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2007/12/11, Darren Spruell [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Dec 10, 2007 9:58 PM, Dongsheng Song [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OpenBSD assume bios time is utc, but it's
Hi,
On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 11:43:35AM -0500, Nick Guenther wrote:
According to the GNU license, anyone using a GNU GPL license in
their software application must ship the sources or a written notice
on where to get sources. Since web applications are applications, all
web applications and
How I can aggregate small prefixes, received from internal peers into big one
in openbgpd ? Like cisco's 'aggregate-address' feature.
I've search in documentation and source code, but found nothing about prefix
aggregation.
Yep, synproxy in your answer for OpenBSD. For linux or freebsd, try
enabling syn cookies.
On Dec 11, 2007 5:43 AM, knitti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 12/11/07, Raimo Niskanen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I want to know if and what I can do (on the server side) about HTTP
clients that put sockets
I recently purchased an HP LaserJet P2015 printer, and I wanted to warn
other users not to make the same mistake. The printer crashes
intermittently while trying to print PostScript files with lpd.
A little googling revealed that other users have also had problems with
this model
Raimo Niskanen wrote:
On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 01:15:11AM +1300, Joel Wiramu Pauling wrote:
Tip.
Don't allow password challenge. Problem solved. Just use key'd ssh and this
problem disappears.
Bin there, done that.
You answered the wrong question.
I think you got the right answer many
wow how completely uninteresting. How about kicking the lawyers out and
writing some code instead? I know its a weird concept.
On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 05:24:24PM +0100, Sebastian Raible wrote:
Hi,
On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 11:43:35AM -0500, Nick Guenther wrote:
According to the GNU
On 2007/12/10 17:32, Stuart Henderson wrote:
On 2007/12/10 17:06, Stuart Henderson wrote:
I've got a ServerWorks-based Fujitsu-Siemens Xeon box. At 'halt -p'
(with or without acpi) the following happens (no panic).
Ugh. 'reboot', too.
More info: with bsd.mp, reboot drops to ddb too, but
Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote:
Using OpenBSD we build the systems we need, and they work a helluva
lot better than most of the other stuff out there. OpenBSD is free
and lets us create reliable, high performance, low maintenance
networks and services, Stuff That Just Works. In fact it's so good
My opinion is that more money should be raised in order to
keep -stable up to date.
I think it's important to mantain a stable distribution, it's one
of the things that give openbsd it's fame of being solid rock
Marcos
- Original Message -
From: Antoine Jacoutot [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 06:41:30PM +0300, bitbucket wrote:
How I can aggregate small prefixes, received from internal peers into
big one in openbgpd ? Like cisco's 'aggregate-address' feature.
I've search in documentation and source code, but found nothing about
prefix aggregation.
bgpd
On 2007/12/11 09:40, Marti Martinez wrote:
Yep, synproxy in your answer for OpenBSD. For linux or freebsd, try
enabling syn cookies.
synproxy works at the start of the connection, not the end.
CLOSE_WAIT is the state where the network stack waits for
the application (httpd) to close the
Rob Lytle writes:
Here is the dmesg. Note that I have #define AZALIA_DEBUG but there
are no debug messages.
OpenBSD 4.2-current (ROBKERN3) #0: Mon Dec 10 21:56:24 PST 2007
root@:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/ROBKERN3
Can you reproduce this (whatever it is) while running a snapshot
You've got a choice of:
(...)
3/ dangerous political activist with a hidden agenda
Or
4) not up on the OpenBSD projects goals and current licensing requirements
To quote Robert Steele (from memory):
Given a choice between incompetence and conspiracy, always go for
incompetence, because
On 12/11/07, Andreas Maus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 01:08:42AM +1100, mufurcz wrote:
b) lines 34 and 35: `could not open entropy source /dev/arandom: file not
found` and `using pre-chroot
entropy source /dev/arandom` complaining about a missing
On 12/11/07, Stuart Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2007/12/11 09:40, Marti Martinez wrote:
Yep, synproxy in your answer for OpenBSD. For linux or freebsd, try
enabling syn cookies.
synproxy works at the start of the connection, not the end.
CLOSE_WAIT is the state where the network
From my perspective as someone outside the BSD and GPL cultures,
both camps seem to have many more similarities than differences.
I see both Theo and Richard as principled iconoclasts, stubbornly
creating and promoting software that meets their individual high
standards, meeting and overcoming
On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 12:28:29PM -0600, Ken Ismert wrote:
It seems likely that no one license can preserve all possible
freedoms. In my view, both licenses have advantages the other
cannot possess. So I don't think reconciliation is required, or
even desirable (and, from a purely selfish
Why don't you ask Theo, whom you once praised, about OpenBSD?
Because he tends to be unfriendly.
Um, OpenBSD is the only common OS that is actively against blobs. See
http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html#39
We're on the same side here.
That is good. (gNewSense and Ututo are also against blobs.)
Sir, it was brought up that the [GNU/]linux distributions you do suggest do
OpenBSD is by far the most free OS in the landscape. Everything that
ships with it is free or else it won't be distributed with it.
Yes, that's what I was told. I was also told that OpenBSD's ports
system includes non-free programs. Is that accurate too?
There is
not a
Is the list at:
http://www.gnu.org/links/links.html#FreeGNULinuxDistributions
the list of operating systems that meet your criteria? It appears that
gNewSense includes LAME in binary format, and BLAG recommends it at
https://wiki.blagblagblag.org/Lame in much the same way
knitti wrote:
On 12/11/07, Stuart Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2007/12/11 09:40, Marti Martinez wrote:
Yep, synproxy in your answer for OpenBSD. For linux or freebsd, try
enabling syn cookies.
synproxy works at the start of the connection, not the end.
CLOSE_WAIT is the state where
Hi,
as you can read in the subject, running e.g. setxkbmap us will kill X totally.
I don't see any core dumped or similar.
What can be the problem?
Here you are my dmesg (an zzz froze the laptop and I had to power it
off) and xorg.conf
But X crashed also when not using an xorg.conf (i.e.,
Hi
About the ports tree, maybe you are right and OpenBSD should go kick out
the possibly 50 ports that you have a problem with.
Now, about BSD/GPL that's an other story. But that doesn't mean we can't
learn from each other and help each other.
I hope it has to do Richards efforts on the
Sir, please check my inline comments.
On 12/11/07, Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is the list at:
http://www.gnu.org/links/links.html#FreeGNULinuxDistributions
the list of operating systems that meet your criteria? It appears that
gNewSense includes LAME in binary
Richard Stallman wrote:
...
On the other hand, if a distro's policies say something is allowed,
then it isn't a mistake, and I can't expect it to be fixed. That's
what gives me stronger concern. The presence of non-free programs
in the OpenBSD ports system is not a mistake, it's intentional.
Marcos Laufer wrote:
My opinion is that more money should be raised in order to
keep -stable up to date.
I think it's important to mantain a stable distribution, it's one
of the things that give openbsd it's fame of being solid rock
Marcos
Seriously? More money? Like enough to woo someone
I have been reading this debate with interest, and am confused on one key
point.
RMS wrote:
Ututo and gNewSense have the policy not to include non-free programs,
not even in a ports system.
According to http://www.gnewsense.org/Main/Features, Universe enabled
by default
Does selecting
El mar, 11-12-2007 a las 14:00 -0500, Richard Stallman escribiC3:
My main basis for judging any distro is the policies it has adopted.
So a distro that comes (de-binaryzed) from ubuntu, that comes from
debian that any of them allow you to install a (nvidia) blob or any of
the non-free ports of
Richard Stallman wrote:
OpenBSD is by far the most free OS in the landscape. Everything that
ships with it is free or else it won't be distributed with it.
Yes, that's what I was told. I was also told that OpenBSD's ports
system includes non-free programs. Is that accurate too?
Watching the latest flame war, I can't help thinking that as
founders of their respective projects Theo and RMS are trapped
in a jail of rigid consistency and absolutism demanded by
children and utopians. Only at home, with the door locked,
are they free to boot their home's sole computer, a
11.12.07, 20:43, Claudio Jeker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 06:41:30PM +0300, bitbucket wrote:
How I can aggregate small prefixes, received from internal peers into
big one in openbgpd ? Like cisco's 'aggregate-address' feature.
I've search in documentation and source
On Dec 11, 2007 11:00 AM, Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My main basis for judging any distro is the policies it has adopted.
Everyone makes mistakes, and well-intentioned people fix their
mistakes. So if someone finds a non-free program in gNewSense, or in
OpenBSD, in violation
Hi all,
OpenBSD refuses to accept it's users being forced into depending on
vendor binaries and pushes people to send a message that open support
for hardware matters. Unix is becoming mainstream again. You should all
work together at educating new people.
mcb, inc. wrote:
Watching the latest flame war, I can't help thinking that as
founders of their respective projects Theo and RMS are trapped
in a jail of rigid consistency and absolutism demanded by
children and utopians.
Well, yes and no.
Theo's absolutism has kept OpenBSD pretty much the
On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 10:44:38PM +0300, bitbucket wrote:
11.12.07, 20:43, Claudio Jeker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 06:41:30PM +0300, bitbucket wrote:
How I can aggregate small prefixes, received from internal peers into
big one in openbgpd ? Like cisco's
Darrin Chandler wrote:
There seems to be a subtext in your message that one license is more
free than the other, and that the more free license is the GPL. This is
not true.
I like both licenses and use software under both licenses. For software I
write, I can easily see scenarios where I
On Dec 11, 2007 2:55 PM, Josh Grosse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have been reading this debate with interest, and am confused on one key
point.
RMS wrote:
Ututo and gNewSense have the policy not to include non-free programs,
not even in a ports system.
According to
On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 02:41:27PM -0600, Ken Ismert wrote:
Darrin Chandler wrote:
Offering something to someone as free with one hand, while taking back
rights with the other is not free. BSD/MIT/ISC licenses retain a very
minimal set of rights to the original author(s), and give away
On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 02:00:14PM -0500, Richard Stallman wrote:
OpenBSD is by far the most free OS in the landscape. Everything that
ships with it is free or else it won't be distributed with it.
Yes, that's what I was told. I was also told that OpenBSD's ports
system includes
On Dec 11, 2007 3:21 PM, Karsten McMinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Dec 11, 2007 11:00 AM, Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My main basis for judging any distro is the policies it has adopted.
Everyone makes mistakes, and well-intentioned people fix their
mistakes. So if
Richard Stallman wrote:
It looks like some people are having a discussion in which they
construct views they would find outrageous, attribute them to me, and
then try to blame me for them.
For such purposes, knowledge of my actual views might be superfluous,
even inconvenient. However, if
On Dec 11, 2007 2:00 PM, Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OpenBSD is by far the most free OS in the landscape. Everything that
ships with it is free or else it won't be distributed with it.
Yes, that's what I was told. I was also told that OpenBSD's ports
system includes
On Tuesday 11 December 2007 14:00:43 Richard Stallman wrote:
Why don't you ask Theo, whom you once praised, about OpenBSD?
Because he tends to be unfriendly.
Now *that* I find humorous.
I find it Kafka-esque, your inability to reccomend OpenBSD because
of some unfree items in the ports
On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 02:00:14PM -0500, Richard Stallman wrote:
OpenBSD is by far the most free OS in the landscape. Everything that
ships with it is free or else it won't be distributed with it.
Yes, that's what I was told. I was also told that OpenBSD's ports
system
I'm a very happy user of both OpenBSD and GNU/Linux systems, but what
I don't get is, how is limiting a users choice in what he/she runs on
his/her system more free than one that doesn't?
Absolute freedom is to be able to do whatever the hell you want to
with no limitations placed on you
Darrin Chandler wrote:
... BSD/MIT/ISC licenses are more Free than GPL. There's nothing
to debate about that. It's just the way things are ...
I don't doubt your claims one iota. But in saying that, don't
believe you have convinced me that the other side somehow has
less valid claims.
And
Richard Stallman wrote:
OpenBSD is by far the most free OS in the landscape. Everything that
ships with it is free or else it won't be distributed with it.
Yes, that's what I was told. I was also told that OpenBSD's ports
system includes non-free programs. Is that accurate too?
Richard Stallman wrote:
ISTR LAME is free software, but I will double-check.
The source code of LAME is licensed under the LGPL; however, the mp3
format itself is patented and restricted. Further reading:
http://www.mp3-tech.org/patents.html
http://www.mp3licensing.com/help/developers.html
Richard Stallman wrote:
Why don't you ask Theo, whom you once praised, about OpenBSD?
Because he tends to be unfriendly.
Interestingly enough, if you specified that as the reason you recommend
against using OpenBSD, this thread would have been a lot shorter.
Somehow I think Theo is more
On 11.12-16:11, Stuart Henderson wrote:
On 2007/12/11 16:13, Markus Bergkvist wrote:
I borrowed a HUAWEI modem just to see how it is recognized.
With umass enabled it is recognized as a CD. Disabling umass and it is
found as ugen.
From this thread
On 12/11/07, Daniel Ouellet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[... snipped away a lot ...]
There is a lots that can be done, however, when you reach this level, an
answer doesn't fit all and is really dependent on your setup.
Hope this help answering your question.
It's not me having the problem, but
Try this
ln -s /etc/X11/xkb /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb
Pau Amaro-Seoane wrote:
Hi,
as you can read in the subject, running e.g. setxkbmap us will kill X totally.
I don't see any core dumped or similar.
What can be the problem?
Here you are my dmesg (an zzz froze the laptop and I had to power
knitti wrote:
On 12/11/07, Daniel Ouellet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[... snipped away a lot ...]
There is a lots that can be done, however, when you reach this level, an
answer doesn't fit all and is really dependent on your setup.
Hope this help answering your question.
It's not me having
On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 01:49:19PM -0700, Jack J. Woehr wrote:
mcb, inc. wrote:
Watching the latest flame war, I can't help thinking that as
founders of their respective projects Theo and RMS are trapped
in a jail of rigid consistency and absolutism demanded by
children and utopians.
Well,
I think it would be wrong for me to recommend it to others. Therefore,
if a collection of software contains (or suggests installation of)
some non-free program, I do not recommend it. The systems I recommend
are therefore those that do not contain (or suggest installation of)
On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 04:49:34PM -0500, STeve Andre' wrote:
On Tuesday 11 December 2007 14:00:43 Richard Stallman wrote:
Why don't you ask Theo, whom you once praised, about OpenBSD?
Because he tends to be unfriendly.
Now *that* I find humorous.
I find it Kafka-esque, your
Jacob Meuser wrote:
his absolutism also causes people to see BSD as a problem, a
social failure.
In everything, there is light and dark, interwoven :-)
recently we saw theft of BSD to GPL, and a large part of the
GPL community thinks there's no problem with that, that the
BSD community is
On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 02:00:14PM -0500, Richard Stallman wrote:
OpenBSD is by far the most free OS in the landscape. Everything that
ships with it is free or else it won't be distributed with it.
Yes, that's what I was told. I was also told that OpenBSD's ports
system
On Dec 11, 2007, at 6:56 PM, Richard Stallman wrote:
Including a program by name in the ports system does suggest using
that program. It grants the program a sort of legitimacy, and that
is what I am opposed to.
Where is your line in the sand? When does an operating system become
free by
On 12/12/07, Daniel Ouellet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
knitti wrote:
HTTP keep alives have nothing to do with it. If the socket is in
CLOSE_WAIT, the TCP connection can't be reused, the server
has sent its FIN and the client its FIN/ACK, but the server doesn't
have yet sent its final ACK.
knitti wrote:
you tell me that there is some correlation between HTTP keep alives and
a socket ending up in CLOSE_WAIT for some time. That is the practical
observation. But I'm interested in whether this is by design or not.
RFC 2616 doesn't mention implementation details, and I can't see why
Is it April 2008 already, or what is happening on this mailing list ?
I am about two weeks behind reading but out of curiosity I read a few
emails in this thread and well, almost can't believe it.
I better stop reading this list for a while and come back after doing
something usefull, like
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