Re: Etnernal & infernal browser woes

2017-04-28 Thread David Lowe
On 2017-04-28 16:09, Jyri Hovila [iki.fi] wrote: Have you properly configured your user? As far as I know, raising the ulimit and being in the staff class can not possibly be the solution. Ulimit has to be raised unless one wants the browser(s) to constantly crash due to memory exhaustion, and

Re: iwm0 problems

2017-04-28 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 06:56:08PM +0300, G wrote: > I should add that video on 6.1 works fine when im connected to ethernet > So i guess the problem is with the iwm driver It could be a driver bug but based on the information I have so far there is nothing I can do but wait and see if somebody

What's the purpose of the VXLAN IP Address?

2017-04-28 Thread rizz2pro .
Hi, Can anyone tell me what the purpose of the hostname.vxlan files needing to have an IP address? If I start my bridge without an IP on my vxlan interface, it doesn't work. However, If I put an IP on the vxlan interface, bring up the bridge and then "ifconfig vxlan1 delete" to remove the IP

Re: OpenLDAP and filesystem permission

2017-04-28 Thread Marcus MERIGHI
hello, ros...@ghweb.de (Markus Rosjat), 2017.04.27 (Thu) 12:59 (CEST): > I basically want to know if its okay to set permission on a file or > directory for a LDAP user even if there is no local user on this machine. > > Hope someone understand what I mean, background is setting up a mailserver

Re: Etnernal & infernal browser woes

2017-04-28 Thread Edgar Pettijohn
On 04/28/17 09:43, trondd wrote: On Fri, April 28, 2017 10:17 am, Fred wrote: I have to agree with David - here I used chrome on a daily basis with a minimum of two chrome windows with at least 4 tabs in each I don't want to get into the conversation, but I thought this was funny. I am a

Re: relayd splice timeout

2017-04-28 Thread Markus Rosjat
Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: Hiltjo Posthuma Datum: 28.04.17 11:34 (GMT+01:00) An: Markus Rosjat Cc: misc@openbsd.org Betreff: Re: relayd splice timeout On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 07:11:56PM +0200, Markus Rosjat wrote: > Hi there,

Re: relayd splice timeout

2017-04-28 Thread Hiltjo Posthuma
On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 07:11:56PM +0200, Markus Rosjat wrote: > Hi there, > > I was playing arround wit relayd just to get a feeling for it. So I started > with relaying a ssh connection to a machine behind my gateway. > > But it seems there is some kind of config value I miss because after

Re: Etnernal & infernal browser woes

2017-04-28 Thread Jyri Hovila [iki.fi]
> If you can answer this question you've already done 50% of the work. Exactly. Which is why I'm asking -- not expecting anyone to give a full answer. I want to know what people who have been working on this issue have already found out. I assume there is at least some basic understanding of why

Re: Etnernal & infernal browser woes

2017-04-28 Thread Karel Gardas
On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 4:01 PM, Jyri Hovila [iki.fi] wrote: >> You ask for peace but your whole post is highly explosive. > > No, it is not. > > I'm just expressing myself directly -- as us aspergers often do. > Then as a real asperger come with hard evidence supporting your

Re: Etnernal & infernal browser woes

2017-04-28 Thread Fred
On 04/28/17 14:00, David Coppa wrote: On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 2:18 PM, Jyri Hovila [iki.fi] wrote: Dear everyone, With the above disclaimer said, and still knowing the potential for a war, I must say this: There is not much hope for OpenBSD to ever become a desktop (or

Re: Etnernal & infernal browser woes

2017-04-28 Thread Jyri Hovila [iki.fi]
> You ask for peace but your whole post is highly explosive. No, it is not. I'm just expressing myself directly -- as us aspergers often do. Should I keep smiling after every sentence and how would that change the actual fact, that using a web browser in OpenBSD is and has for a very long time

Re: Etnernal & infernal browser woes

2017-04-28 Thread Jyri Hovila [iki.fi]
> Have you properly configured your user? As far as I know, raising the ulimit and being in the staff class can not possibly be the solution. Ulimit has to be raised unless one wants the browser(s) to constantly crash due to memory exhaustion, and that I havedone. But really: adding a normal

Re: Etnernal & infernal browser woes

2017-04-28 Thread Martin Pieuchot
On 28/04/17(Fri) 14:03, Jyri Hovila [iki.fi] wrote: > > If you can answer this question you've already done 50% of the work. > > Exactly. Which is why I'm asking -- not expecting anyone to give a full > answer. I want to know what people who have been working on this issue > have already found

Re: Etnernal & infernal browser woes

2017-04-28 Thread Raul Miller
On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 10:11 AM, Karel Gardas wrote: > On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 4:01 PM, Jyri Hovila [iki.fi] > wrote: >>> You ask for peace but your whole post is highly explosive. >> >> No, it is not. >> >> I'm just expressing myself directly -- as us

Re: Etnernal & infernal browser woes

2017-04-28 Thread Anders Andersson
On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 4:09 PM, Jyri Hovila [iki.fi] wrote: > >> Have you properly configured your user? > > As far as I know, raising the ulimit and being in the staff class can > not possibly be the solution. Ulimit has to be raised unless one wants > the browser(s) to

Etnernal & infernal browser woes

2017-04-28 Thread Jyri Hovila [iki.fi]
Dear everyone, I'm well aware of the bashing potential this message contains, and kindly ask you not to resort to the usual "offence is the best defence" strategy. I've been in the scene for a long time (you'll find my first e-mails to this list almost two decades ago) and I'm well aware of how

Re: Etnernal & infernal browser woes

2017-04-28 Thread Karel Gardas
On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 2:18 PM, Jyri Hovila [iki.fi] wrote: > Now, can anyone provide a relatively clear description of what it is > that make the same browsers (Firefox, Seamonkey, Chrome) that work > fine in Linux, Windows and OS X so ridiculously slow when they are > being

Re: Etnernal & infernal browser woes

2017-04-28 Thread Raul Miller
I use OpenBSD because it reliably breaks my code when I have done something wrong. Browsers, meanwhile, seem to do a lot of things wrong (look at what is needed to compile the things, or how people compare browser functionality). I suspect you would be better off getting a $100..$200 chromebook

iwm0 problems

2017-04-28 Thread G
Hello. When i connect my laptop using wifi (iwm0) my browser freeze for a couple of seconds from time to time. Also when i start play videos the video freeze after a couple of seconds. My dmesg gives me device timeout iwm0: fatal firmware error iwm0: device timeout iwm0: device timeout wsmouse1

Re: Etnernal & infernal browser woes

2017-04-28 Thread David Coppa
On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 2:18 PM, Jyri Hovila [iki.fi] wrote: > Dear everyone, > With the above disclaimer said, and still knowing the potential for a > war, I must say this: There is not much hope for OpenBSD to ever become > a desktop (or laptop) OS if the nightmarish

Re: Etnernal & infernal browser woes

2017-04-28 Thread Martin Pieuchot
On 28/04/17(Fri) 12:18, Jyri Hovila [iki.fi] wrote: > [...] > Now, can anyone provide a relatively clear description of what it is > that make the same browsers (Firefox, Seamonkey, Chrome) that work > fine in Linux, Windows and OS X so ridiculously slow when they are > being run on OpenBSD? If

Re: Etnernal & infernal browser woes

2017-04-28 Thread Karel Gardas
For testing I would also recommend you to make sure both OSes provide browser with the same amount of RAM (i.e. unlimit your limits in /etc/login.conf) and I would also browse ports email list probably and search for patch limiting amount of RAM which is allocated for firefox javascript engine. I

Re: Etnernal & infernal browser woes

2017-04-28 Thread Martin Pieuchot
On 28/04/17(Fri) 16:20, Anders Andersson wrote: > [...] > From what I read, it seems as if the problems are mostly from when you > try websites which are heavy on javascript. If javascript was the problem others OSes would suffer as well. > Let me

Re: Etnernal & infernal browser woes

2017-04-28 Thread Kamil Cholewiński
On Fri, 28 Apr 2017, Anders Andersson wrote: > From what I read, it seems as if the problems are mostly from when you > try websites which are heavy on javascript. Let me butt in as a grumpy > not-so-old man and point out that there's nothing even remotely > "secure by

Re: Etnernal & infernal browser woes

2017-04-28 Thread Allan Streib
"Jyri Hovila [iki.fi]" writes: > Exactly. Which is why I'm asking -- not expecting anyone to give a full > answer. I want to know what people who have been working on this issue > have already found out. I assume there is at least some basic > understanding of why browsers

Re: Etnernal & infernal browser woes

2017-04-28 Thread trondd
On Fri, April 28, 2017 10:17 am, Fred wrote: > I have to agree with David - here I used chrome on a daily basis with a > minimum of two chrome windows with at least 4 tabs in each I don't want to get into the conversation, but I thought this was funny. I am a heavy tabs user. I currently have

Re: Etnernal & infernal browser woes

2017-04-28 Thread STeve Andre'
On 04/28/17 09:00, David Coppa wrote: On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 2:18 PM, Jyri Hovila [iki.fi] wrote: Dear everyone, With the above disclaimer said, and still knowing the potential for a war, I must say this: There is not much hope for OpenBSD to ever become a desktop (or

Re: Etnernal & infernal browser woes

2017-04-28 Thread G
Whats your hardware? Are you running openbsd 6.1? I had alot of problems with my firefox and chrome a couple of months ago. (OpenBSD 6.0). I couldnt play videos on firefox. Not even youtube. I could play videos on iridium but i had to clear browsing data etc almost every day otherwise the browser

Re: Etnernal & infernal browser woes

2017-04-28 Thread Mihai Popescu
Here are the details, from my everyday setup with no problems in browsing. I use Firefox, Chromium gives me constant core files and looks chopped at interface. I tested many sites, Falsebook and Youtube included, no problems yet. OpenBSD 6.1 (GENERIC.MP) #17: Thu Mar 30 21:37:57 MDT 2017

Re: iwm0 problems

2017-04-28 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 03:56:04PM +0300, G wrote: > Hello. > When i connect my laptop using wifi (iwm0) my browser freeze for a > couple of seconds from time to time. > Also when i start play videos the video freeze after a couple of seconds. > > My dmesg gives me > > device timeout > iwm0:

Re: iwm0 problems

2017-04-28 Thread G
No dmesg didnt have any messages on OpenBSD 6.0 back then. But wifi was really slow and couldnt download with more than 500kbit/sec Now with wifi i get 4.81Mbps download 0.58Mbps upload 240 ms ping and with ethernet i get 10.79Mbps download 0.80Mpbs upload 115 ms ping On 04/28/17 18:36, Stefan

Re: iwm0 problems

2017-04-28 Thread G
I should add that video on 6.1 works fine when im connected to ethernet So i guess the problem is with the iwm driver On 04/28/17 18:52, G wrote: > No dmesg didnt have any messages on OpenBSD 6.0 back then. But wifi was > really slow and couldnt download with more than 500kbit/sec > Now with

man.openbsd.org via HTTPS

2017-04-28 Thread Peter Bill
I found a website that provides man.openbsd.org via HTTPS: https://twitter.com/FiloSottile/status/845068942762762241 https://man.filippo.io/ Have a great weekend!

Re: man.openbsd.org via HTTPS

2017-04-28 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2017-04-28, Peter Bill wrote: > I found a website that provides man.openbsd.org via HTTPS: > > https://twitter.com/FiloSottile/status/845068942762762241 > > https://man.filippo.io/ > > Have a great weekend! > > You can do the same yourself with relayd.

Re: Need some pointers regarding ELF

2017-04-28 Thread Peter J. Philipp
One quick note. The sources here are against 6.1 not -current, in order to compile against -current I'M sure it'll have to be put up to speed. Regards, -peter

Re: Need some pointers regarding ELF

2017-04-28 Thread Peter J. Philipp
On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 10:07:37AM +, Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2017-04-25, Peter J. Philipp wrote: > > Hi, > > > > In the past I've been examining signed binaries in the OpenBSD system. > > I wrote some kernel code for this, but I'm stuck before it got good. In > >