Re: CEF / MLS (WAS: Re: em(4) - IFCAP_VLAN_MTU IFCAP_VLAN_HWTAGGING ?)

2007-10-22 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Sun, Oct 21, 2007 at 09:23:39PM -0400, Brian A Seklecki (Mobile) wrote: On Mon, 2007-10-22 at 00:12 +0100, Tony Sarendal wrote: On 10/21/07, Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll throw this out there since its been something on my mind for a while: Hardware VLAN tagging, TOE

Re: MAXDSIZ 1GB memory limit for process

2007-10-22 Thread Ted Unangst
On 10/21/07, Richard Storm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to bypass this limit somehow? depends, but if it's easy to bypass a limit, it's not much of a limit. Do you plan to increase this limit? i don't think so.

Re: Can't read authpf rules with pfctl

2007-10-22 Thread Francesco Toscan
2007/10/22, Jeff Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [...] firewall:~#pfctl -a '*' -sr anchor * all { pfctl: DIOCGETRULES: Invalid argument } Am I misreading the man page in assuming that both of these commands should return the block line that the authme login set up, or is something else going

Odd FFS behavior

2007-10-22 Thread Edd Barrett
Hi there, I have an odd one for you here. Im trying to copy music from a hard disk(FFS) mounted on /mnt/media. I can play the music with mplayer just fine, but cp seems to refuse to believe that the files exist. Whats going on? ---8--- # fsck /mnt/media ** /dev/rwd1a (NO WRITE) ** Last Mounted

About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-22 Thread carlopmart
Hi all, I know that time to time somebody do the same question, but I need to know it: is it planned at some point to release a paravirtualized xen kernel for OpenBSD 4.3 or 4.4??? In March'08 I need to virtualize two openbsd servers under xen (host doesn't supports HVM guests). But if it

Re: Odd FFS behavior

2007-10-22 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007, Edd Barrett wrote: Hi there, I have an odd one for you here. Im trying to copy music from a hard disk(FFS) mounted on /mnt/media. I can play the music with mplayer just fine, but cp seems to refuse to believe that the files exist. Whats going on? Does your target

Re: MAXDSIZ 1GB memory limit for process

2007-10-22 Thread Richard Storm
On 10/22/07, Ted Unangst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/21/07, Richard Storm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to bypass this limit somehow? depends, but if it's easy to bypass a limit, it's not much of a limit. Is there possible workarounds for my program to allocate more memory than

Re: Odd FFS behavior

2007-10-22 Thread Edd Barrett
On 22/10/2007, Otto Moerbeek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does your target dir /mnt/usb exist? It does. I copied another album onto an SD mounted there and listened to it on the way to work today. -- Best Regards Edd ---

Re: Odd FFS behavior

2007-10-22 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007, Edd Barrett wrote: On 22/10/2007, Otto Moerbeek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does your target dir /mnt/usb exist? It does. I copied another album onto an SD mounted there and listened to it on the way to work today. Show a ls -la of the source dir and a stat(1) of the dir

Re: CEF / MLS (WAS: Re: em(4) - IFCAP_VLAN_MTU IFCAP_VLAN_HWTAGGING ?)

2007-10-22 Thread Henning Brauer
* Brian A Seklecki (Mobile) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-22 03:26]: On Mon, 2007-10-22 at 00:12 +0100, Tony Sarendal wrote: On 10/21/07, Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll throw this out there since its been something on my mind for a while: Hardware VLAN tagging, TOE offload,

Re: em(4) - IFCAP_VLAN_MTU IFCAP_VLAN_HWTAGGING ?

2007-10-22 Thread Henning Brauer
* Tony Sarendal [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-22 01:19]: On 10/21/07, Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well, you can go stateful up to a certain point and handle stuff above stateless (better than dropping), like pass out on X from $foo pass in on X to $foo pass out on X from

Re: CEF / MLS (WAS: Re: em(4) - IFCAP_VLAN_MTU IFCAP_VLAN_HWTAGGING ?)

2007-10-22 Thread Henning Brauer
* Claudio Jeker [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-22 08:17]: Fragment Reassembly does not happen in the forwarding plane, it happens on the end system. By doing flow based forwarding on the router you're no longer able to do all the additional checks that pf(4) is doing in its stateful forwarding

Re: Odd FFS behavior

2007-10-22 Thread David Vasek
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007, Otto Moerbeek wrote: On Mon, 22 Oct 2007, Edd Barrett wrote: On 22/10/2007, Otto Moerbeek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does your target dir /mnt/usb exist? It does. I copied another album onto an SD mounted there and listened to it on the way to work today. Show a ls -la

Re: Routing iTunes sharing across subnets using OpenBSD

2007-10-22 Thread Damon Schultz
On 22/10/2007, at 12:41 AM, Arnaud Bergeron wrote: 2007/10/21, Damon Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Greetings, How would one go about routing multicast DNS packets (e.g. used for iTunes sharing neighbourhood discovery) between two different subnets sharing an OpenBSD router and secured by

Re: Odd FFS behavior

2007-10-22 Thread Denise H. G.
David Vasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 22 Oct 2007, Otto Moerbeek wrote: On Mon, 22 Oct 2007, Edd Barrett wrote: On 22/10/2007, Otto Moerbeek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does your target dir /mnt/usb exist? It does. I copied another album onto an SD mounted there and listened to it

Re: BIND

2007-10-22 Thread Paul de Weerd
[redirecting to [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 07:10:11PM +0800, Regie H. Saberon wrote: | Hi to all, I just want to ask if BIND is already chrooted on OBSD 4.1? from named(8) : When invoked without arguments, named will fork into two processes for privilege

Re: BIND

2007-10-22 Thread Regie H. Saberon
Thanks for quick response, I want to set-up a Primary Domain Name Server, so that I hosts my own domain. Is there any good wiki that I can follow? -Original Message- From: Paul de Weerd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 7:13 PM To: Regie H. Saberon Cc:

Re: BIND

2007-10-22 Thread Joshua Smith
the named(8) man page is quiet excellent, if it doesn't cover what you need, try googling for some bind stuff, most of the hits you get will be for Linux, but the named.conf examples are in all likelihood still relevant. Thanks, Josh On 10/22/07, Regie H. Saberon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: em(4) - IFCAP_VLAN_MTU IFCAP_VLAN_HWTAGGING ?

2007-10-22 Thread Tony Sarendal
On 10/22/07, Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Tony Sarendal [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-22 01:19]: On 10/21/07, Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well, you can go stateful up to a certain point and handle stuff above stateless (better than dropping), like pass out on

Re: MAXDSIZ 1GB memory limit for process

2007-10-22 Thread Matthew Szudzik
Do you plan to increase this limit? i don't think so. Could somebody explain the reason for the 1 GB maximum datasize per process in OpenBSD? Is this a limit on the heap size of a process, or is it stack size + heap size? I can imagine how this limit might arise on a 32-bit system, since

Help with LiveCD/LIveDVD

2007-10-22 Thread Ted M. Goodridge, Jr.
Hello all, Please CC to me directly as I am offlist... I am building a LiveCD/LiveDVD based on OpenBSD 4.1 snapshot. I know this is an unofficial page, but I followed the instructions here: http://openbsd-wiki.org/index.php?title=LiveCD I'm using 4.1 because of the libraries required on

Re: machine which freeze with openbsd 4.2

2007-10-22 Thread Mark Zimmerman
On Sun, Oct 21, 2007 at 09:32:36PM +0200, Matthieu Herrb wrote: On 10/21/07, Firas Kraiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nicolas Letellier wrote: Firas Kraiem a icrit : Salut ;) I have the very same problem on my laptop (running 4.2) and I've discovered that the freezings stop if

Re: Help with LiveCD/LIveDVD

2007-10-22 Thread Nick Guenther
On 10/22/07, Ted M. Goodridge, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, Please CC to me directly as I am offlist... Relevant info: --- I'm burning a re-writable DVD using the above instructions The mkisofs command to burn the image is as follows: /usr/local/bin/mkisofs

Re: BIND

2007-10-22 Thread Darren Spruell
On 10/22/07, Regie H. Saberon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for quick response, I want to set-up a Primary Domain Name Server, so that I hosts my own domain. Is there any good wiki that I can follow? You have a few options. - http://www.isc.org/index.pl?/sw/bind/index.php - look at the

Performance problem with CF card on AMD CS5536 IDE

2007-10-22 Thread Stefan Klein
Hi list, I have got an interesting problem here. When I use a CF card on Geode LX-800 board, the performance is extremely low (about 1MB/s for reading). I suppose it is not a hardware problem: Under windows, the performance of read/writes on the CF is fine. This is what I get in dmesg: pciide0

Re: Help with LiveCD/LIveDVD

2007-10-22 Thread Ted M. Goodridge, Jr.
qemu doesn't work for some reason. Anytime I try and use qemu I get the error Cannot initialize SDL library... Yes, I have tried it in different hardware. What exactly do cdbr and cdboot do? I get the screen that says OpenBSD boot loader (with the hardware fd1 etc listed), with the

Re: Performance problem with CF card on AMD CS5536 IDE

2007-10-22 Thread Jan Stary
On Oct 22 16:28:49, Stefan Klein wrote: I have got an interesting problem here. When I use a CF card on Geode LX-800 board, the performance is extremely low (about 1MB/s for reading). I suppose it is not a hardware problem: Under windows, the performance of read/writes on the CF is fine.

Re: Help with LiveCD/LIveDVD

2007-10-22 Thread Ted M. Goodridge, Jr.
Just an update...it hangs on the message Loading /CDBOOT not cdbr as previously posted. Sorry about that. CC me directly as I am offlist. Ted Goodridge -- Hello all, Please CC to me directly as I am offlist... I am building a LiveCD/LiveDVD based on OpenBSD

Re: Help with LiveCD/LIveDVD

2007-10-22 Thread Ted M. Goodridge, Jr.
cdbr is listed in the installation instructions as the cdboot loader. cdboot is the second stage boot loader IIRC. Don't hesitate to correct me if I'm wrong here. Oh, no, that sounds about right, I guess. The help is apprecitated. I'm not trying to make install media (that would actually

Re: Help with LiveCD/LIveDVD

2007-10-22 Thread Nick Guenther
On 10/22/07, Ted M. Goodridge, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 09:21:06 -0500, Nick Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/22/07, Ted M. Goodridge, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, Please CC to me directly as I am offlist... Relevant info: ---

Re: machine which freeze with openbsd 4.2

2007-10-22 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 21/10/2007, Matthieu Herrb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/21/07, Firas Kraiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nicolas Letellier wrote: Firas Kraiem a icrit : Salut ;) I have the very same problem on my laptop (running 4.2) and I've discovered that the freezings stop if I'm not

Re: machine which freeze with openbsd 4.2

2007-10-22 Thread Nicolas Letellier
Hello everybody, thanks to all for your responses ! I have a laptop and a desktop. They have an 8169 NIC realtek... And these 2 machines freeze. When i disabling these NIC, i have no problems. In this page http://www.openbsd.org/i386.html, the chipset 8169 is not written. I think it doesn't

Re: Performance problem with CF card on AMD CS5536 IDE

2007-10-22 Thread Brian A. Seklecki
pciide0 at pci0 dev 15 function 2 AMD CS5536 IDE rev 0x01: DMA, channel 0 wired to compatibility, channel 1 wired to compatibility wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: Turbo Industrial CF Card wd0: 1-sector PIO, LBA, 1983MB, 4062240 sectors wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2

Re: em(4) - IFCAP_VLAN_MTU IFCAP_VLAN_HWTAGGING ?

2007-10-22 Thread Henning Brauer
* Tony Sarendal [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-22 14:59]: On 10/22/07, Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Tony Sarendal [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-22 01:19]: On 10/21/07, Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well, you can go stateful up to a certain point and handle stuff above

Re: RAIDFrame woes with -current. Seeking debug advice

2007-10-22 Thread Brian
Josh, I experienced this same problem during a recent migration to RAIDframe Auto-configuration. I had a RAID 1 root auto-configured RAID set, and a RAID 0 auto-configured set. The source tree I was using dates back to August 5th so it is obviously outside of your 12-hour window. However, I

Re: Help with LiveCD/LIveDVD

2007-10-22 Thread Nick Guenther
On 10/22/07, Ted M. Goodridge, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cdbr is listed in the installation instructions as the cdboot loader. cdboot is the second stage boot loader IIRC. Don't hesitate to correct me if I'm wrong here. Oh, no, that sounds about right, I guess. The help is

Update features on PF(OpenBSD4.2)

2007-10-22 Thread Beavis
hi folks, I saw this performance issue with pf on a AMD64firewall: below is the link http://www.nabble.com/firewall-is-very-slow%2C-something%27s-wrong-t4572653i20.html it states that pf on 4.2 performs much better than in 4.1. having said this, is it possible to be able to just update pf's

Re: Performance problem with CF card on AMD CS5536 IDE

2007-10-22 Thread Chris Kuethe
On 10/22/07, Brian A. Seklecki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For my bsd-appliance project, I use CF media strictly for booting a MD/RD kernel image. If you're doing a full-install on the CF card, you've got the wrong approach. You're going to nuke your CF media with all of that atime update

Re: em(4) - IFCAP_VLAN_MTU IFCAP_VLAN_HWTAGGING ?

2007-10-22 Thread Tony Sarendal
On 10/22/07, Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Tony Sarendal [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-22 14:59]: On 10/22/07, Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Tony Sarendal [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-22 01:19]: On 10/21/07, Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well, you can

Re: Update features on PF(OpenBSD4.2)

2007-10-22 Thread Paul de Weerd
On Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 10:20:41AM -0600, Beavis wrote: | hi folks, | |I saw this performance issue with pf on a AMD64firewall: below is the link | | http://www.nabble.com/firewall-is-very-slow%2C-something%27s-wrong-t4572653i2 0.html | | it states that pf on 4.2 performs much better than in

Re: Update features on PF(OpenBSD4.2)

2007-10-22 Thread Sam Fourman Jr.
On 10/22/07, Beavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi folks, I saw this performance issue with pf on a AMD64firewall: below is the link http://www.nabble.com/firewall-is-very-slow%2C-something%27s-wrong-t4572653i20.html it states that pf on 4.2 performs much better than in 4.1. having said

Re: Odd FFS behavior

2007-10-22 Thread Aaron W. Hsu
I have experienced similar behaviour, except that, with me, after I do an archive extraction, or a file concatenation of many files, while the file system only shows one set of files, additional files which were deleted after the extraction, continue to be listed as existing when I try to do

Re: Update features on PF(OpenBSD4.2)

2007-10-22 Thread Beavis
thanks for the reply guys, I currently run CARP and pfsync on both boxes (upgrade can be done with less downtime) though i haven't tried to stress test my setup, i guess this upgrade is do-able. instead of coding (im not a coder). regards, -beavis On 10/22/07, Paul de Weerd [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: MAXDSIZ 1GB memory limit for process

2007-10-22 Thread Markus Hennecke
Richard Storm schrieb: On 10/22/07, Ted Unangst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/21/07, Richard Storm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to bypass this limit somehow? depends, but if it's easy to bypass a limit, it's not much of a limit. Is there possible workarounds for my program to

Re: MAXDSIZ 1GB memory limit for process

2007-10-22 Thread mickey
On Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 07:17:02PM +0200, Markus Hennecke wrote: Richard Storm schrieb: On 10/22/07, Ted Unangst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/21/07, Richard Storm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to bypass this limit somehow? depends, but if it's easy to bypass a limit, it's not much

Re: USB Disk problems

2007-10-22 Thread Tilo Stritzky
On 18/10/07 10:28 Edwards, David (JTS) wrote: Hi, I'm trying to use USB disks as backup devices and I'm finding that I have problems when I plug in more than two USB drives. I'm using 250G laptop disks powered from the USB cable. Is anyone else seeing this sort of problem? Would an

Re: Help with LiveCD/LIveDVD

2007-10-22 Thread Pau Amaro-Seoane
Hi, I hope you succeed. I'd be very itnerested in a live cd/dvd for obsd. As you say, it's ideal to test hardware, but I don't have to time to do it myself. Btw, why obsd 4.1? Do you plan to upload the iso to some site? There were some projects, like quetzal and olivebsd, but they died, I think.

Re: MAXDSIZ 1GB memory limit for process

2007-10-22 Thread Ted Unangst
On 10/22/07, Richard Storm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there possible workarounds for my program to allocate more memory than 1GB? you can mmap a large file with PROT_SHARED. this doesn't count as data, since you are in essence providing your own swap file for it. Don't you think, that now

Re: Help! I'm having Linux foisted on me! (PF queuing woes)

2007-10-22 Thread Brian
Joshua Smith wrote: Out of curiosity what are these two extremely rare cases? [snip] One example off the top of my head (and ipsec.conf(5)) is the enc0 interface. You wouldn't set your state-policy to this, but each individual rule would use if-bound to prevent traffic from going out your

Re: cp(1) bug ?

2007-10-22 Thread ropers
On 22 Oct 2007 01:30:57 +0200, Artur Grabowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom Van Looy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: on unix everything is a file? s/unix/Plan 9/g http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_9_from_Bell_Labs no, it's not. It's the dumbed down truth so that you can explain to random people

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-22 Thread ropers
On 22/10/2007, carlopmart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I know that time to time somebody do the same question, but I need to know it: is it planned at some point to release a paravirtualized xen kernel for OpenBSD 4.3 or 4.4??? It already exists. You can run OpenBSD DomUs (ie. run

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-22 Thread Nick Guenther
On 10/22/07, ropers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 22/10/2007, carlopmart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I know that time to time somebody do the same question, but I need to know it: is it planned at some point to release a paravirtualized xen kernel for OpenBSD 4.3 or 4.4???

Re: BIND

2007-10-22 Thread Jean-Philippe Luiggi
Hello everybody, May i suggest : http://www.zytrax.com/books/dns/ DNS for Rocket Scientists This Open Source Guide is about DNS and (mostly) BIND 9.x on Linux (Fedora Core), BSD's (FreeBSD, OpenBSD and NetBSD) and Windows (Win 2K, XP, Server 2003). It is meant for newbies, Rocket

Biometrics

2007-10-22 Thread Cyrus
I've been looking for some time now for biometric software for openbsd, to work in XDM or KDM. I need it to support Keytronic F-SCAN-K001US, if nothing exists, I guess its back to a regular keyboard. I dont think I can run Bio-Logon 3.0 through wine as a system proccess like that, so Im just

Re: MAXDSIZ 1GB memory limit for process

2007-10-22 Thread Richard Storm
On 10/22/07, Ted Unangst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/22/07, Richard Storm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there possible workarounds for my program to allocate more memory than 1GB? you can mmap a large file with PROT_SHARED. this doesn't count as data, since you are in essence providing

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-22 Thread ropers
On 22/10/2007, Nick Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/22/07, ropers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 22/10/2007, carlopmart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I know that time to time somebody do the same question, but I need to know it: is it planned at some point to release a

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-22 Thread ropers
On 22/10/2007, ropers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 22/10/2007, Nick Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/22/07, ropers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 22/10/2007, carlopmart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I know that time to time somebody do the same question, but I need to

OpenBSD aio(2) support

2007-10-22 Thread Daniel Bosk
Hi misc@, Just wondering, is there still no support for the aio(2) programming interface in OpenBSD? (Running 4.1 and I cannot find it) In January 2003 it was being worked on, but what is the status now? http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=104213994204389w=2 -- Daniel

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-22 Thread Jeff Quast
On 10/22/07, Nick Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/22/07, ropers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 22/10/2007, carlopmart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I know that time to time somebody do the same question, but I need to know it: is it planned at some point to release a

Re: RAIDFrame woes with -current. Seeking debug advice

2007-10-22 Thread Josh Grosse
On Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 11:29:16AM -0400, Brian wrote: Josh, I experienced this same problem during a recent migration to RAIDframe Auto-configuration. I had a RAID 1 root auto-configured RAID set, and a RAID 0 auto-configured set. The source tree I was using dates back to August 5th so

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-22 Thread ropers
On 23/10/2007, Jeff Quast [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The paravirtualization port appears dead to me. I've tried to keep up on it, but the guy's blog no longer mentions it, his repository is often down, and when it is up the commits do not appear to be very frequent. Also his blog hasn't

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-22 Thread ropers
On 23/10/2007, Jeff Quast [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to vouch for openbsd working great as a guest, but my guest has crashed a dozen times. However I think this is due to the debian linux dom0 having broken sata code for the controller in use. dom0's dmesg is filled with debug

Re: USB Disk problems

2007-10-22 Thread Edwards, David (JTS)
-Original Message- From: Tilo Stritzky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 23 October 2007 3:07 AM To: Edwards, David (JTS) Cc: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: USB Disk problems On 18/10/07 10:28 Edwards, David (JTS) wrote: Hi, I'm trying to use USB disks as backup