Re: OT: vmware mind control (WAS: Re: Dell PE850 CERC SATA controller)

2010-03-08 Thread bofh
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 12:38 AM, Philip Guenther guent...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 9:11 PM, bofh goodb...@gmail.com wrote: ... Is there *ANY* good virtualization software out there? The rest of your message gave several requirements but don't actually say *what problem

Re: OT: vmware mind control (WAS: Re: Dell PE850 CERC SATA controller)

2010-03-08 Thread Steve Shockley
On 3/8/2010 12:11 AM, bofh wrote: Is there *ANY* good virtualization software out there? I don't care what OS it needs to host it (preferably not windows :)) - my needs are simple (home use): I haven't really tried out Xen or qemu, but it seems ESXi should at least be adequate for the job,

Re: Dell PE850 CERC SATA controller

2010-03-08 Thread Kenneth R Westerback
On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 10:16:10PM -0600, Marco Peereboom wrote: You forgot the pyramid! And the Venn diagram... On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 09:19:19PM -0500, Steve Shockley wrote: On 3/5/2010 7:42 AM, Nick Holland wrote: And yes, this is just the tip of the iceberg with vmware quality

Re: Dell PE850 CERC SATA controller

2010-03-08 Thread Ted Roby
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 5:39 AM, Kenneth R Westerback kwesterb...@rogers.com wrote: ... You switch to 'pretend' servers and try to keep the merry-go-round turning. And the spider sucks your juices out. Of course the bonus is you now have room for all the Project Managers needed to

Re: Dell PE850 CERC SATA controller

2010-03-08 Thread Marco Peereboom
*clap*clap*clap* I couldn't sound more condescending if I tried. Bravo sir! On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 07:39:25AM -0500, Kenneth R Westerback wrote: On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 10:16:10PM -0600, Marco Peereboom wrote: You forgot the pyramid! And the Venn diagram... On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at

Re: OT: vmware mind control (WAS: Re: Dell PE850 CERC SATA controller)

2010-03-08 Thread Ahlsen-Girard, Edward F CTR USAF AFSOC AFSOC/A6OK
On 3/8/2010 12:40 AM, Steve Shockley wrote: OpenBSD works well under ESX, I'd expect it to work well under ESXi too. (snip) I can verify that it works great. Upgrade from 4.3 to 4.4 required a manual change to the network driver, though - it quit matching the pseudo-hardware that VMware

Re: OT: vmware mind control (WAS: Re: Dell PE850 CERC SATA controller)

2010-03-08 Thread W.E.B. Schrott
Hi Sorry for the non-threaded reply - I am following the digests... On 3/8/2010 12:11 AM, bofh wrote: Is there *ANY* good virtualization software out there? I don't care what OS it needs to host it (preferably not windows :)) - my needs are simple (home use): I haven't really tried

Re: OT: vmware mind control (WAS: Re: Dell PE850 CERC SATA controller)

2010-03-07 Thread Steve Shockley
On 3/6/2010 10:22 AM, Ted Roby wrote: Oh, and it also blinks a pretty light when in use. I could be a typical Mac user, and consider this to be the best ever!. AND, as a Mac user, you'd have the most secure OS in the world!

Re: OT: vmware mind control (WAS: Re: Dell PE850 CERC SATA controller)

2010-03-07 Thread Ted Roby
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Steve Shockley steve.shock...@shockley.netwrote: On 3/6/2010 10:22 AM, Ted Roby wrote: Oh, and it also blinks a pretty light when in use. I could be a typical Mac user, and consider this to be the best ever!. AND, as a Mac user, you'd have the most secure

Re: Dell PE850 CERC SATA controller

2010-03-07 Thread Steve Shockley
On 3/5/2010 7:42 AM, Nick Holland wrote: And yes, this is just the tip of the iceberg with vmware quality issues, but that one was really, really easy to understand. So, you're saying VMware *is* enterprise-ready, then? Like Blackberry Enterprise Server, CA Message Manager, or any number of

Re: Dell PE850 CERC SATA controller

2010-03-07 Thread Nick Holland
Steve Shockley wrote: On 3/5/2010 7:42 AM, Nick Holland wrote: And yes, this is just the tip of the iceberg with vmware quality issues, but that one was really, really easy to understand. So, you're saying VMware *is* enterprise-ready, then? Like Blackberry Enterprise Server, CA Message

Re: Dell PE850 CERC SATA controller

2010-03-07 Thread Marco Peereboom
You forgot the pyramid! And the Venn diagram... On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 09:19:19PM -0500, Steve Shockley wrote: On 3/5/2010 7:42 AM, Nick Holland wrote: And yes, this is just the tip of the iceberg with vmware quality issues, but that one was really, really easy to understand. So, you're

Re: OT: vmware mind control (WAS: Re: Dell PE850 CERC SATA controller)

2010-03-07 Thread bofh
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Jason Beaudoin jasonbeaud...@gmail.comwrote: What a crock of shite. Good to know as I am just getting into a few small-scale virtualizing projects.. not so sure I am at *all* surprised. Is there *ANY* good virtualization software out there? I don't care

Re: OT: vmware mind control (WAS: Re: Dell PE850 CERC SATA controller)

2010-03-07 Thread VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO
I'm running/I've runned OpenBSD, NetBSD, OpenWall GNU/Linux and Slackware 9.0/12.0/13.0 on qemu. I'm no expert, but it seems to work ok. Give it a try, it compiles fast. I didn't use any modules on qemu - actually, I didn't even know such modules exist. Go ahead and try the main package. I'm

Re: OT: vmware mind control (WAS: Re: Dell PE850 CERC SATA controller)

2010-03-07 Thread Philip Guenther
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 9:11 PM, bofh goodb...@gmail.com wrote: ... Is there *ANY* good virtualization software out there? Yes, there are some that support the world economy by generating 'make work' jobs, thereby distracting people from revolution. Oh, that's not what you meant by 'good'? The

Re: OT: vmware mind control (WAS: Re: Dell PE850 CERC SATA controller)

2010-03-06 Thread Ted Roby
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:17 PM, Scott McEachern sc...@erratic.ca wrote: Ted Roby wrote: Hey, I got a 2 GB usb stick for my troubles over a recent fiasco with VMWare's release of Fusion 3. It seems their PR department is doing a better job than QC. Ooo, a trinket from WallyMart that

Re: Dell PE850 CERC SATA controller

2010-03-05 Thread Tomas Bodzar
Which VMware August bug you mean? This one or different? http://communities.vmware.com/thread/162377?tstart=0start=0 On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 1:47 AM, Nick Holland n...@holland-consulting.net wrote: Tomas Bodzar wrote: You just think that it's running perfectly under Linux ;-) See eg. this post

Re: Dell PE850 CERC SATA controller

2010-03-05 Thread Nick Holland
Tomas Bodzar wrote: Which VMware August bug you mean? This one or different? http://communities.vmware.com/thread/162377?tstart=0start=0 yep, that's the one. Short version: VMware accidentally shipped a production release of ESX and ESXi (yes, both the expensive and no-charge version) which

OT: vmware mind control (WAS: Re: Dell PE850 CERC SATA controller)

2010-03-05 Thread Jason Beaudoin
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Nick Holland n...@holland-consulting.net wrote: Tomas Bodzar wrote: Which VMware August bug you mean? This one or different? http://communities.vmware.com/thread/162377?tstart=0start=0 yep, that's the one. Short version: VMware accidentally shipped a

Re: OT: vmware mind control (WAS: Re: Dell PE850 CERC SATA controller)

2010-03-05 Thread Ted Roby
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Jason Beaudoin jasonbeaud...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Nick Holland n...@holland-consulting.net wrote: Tomas Bodzar wrote: Which VMware August bug you mean? This one or different?

Re: OT: vmware mind control (WAS: Re: Dell PE850 CERC SATA controller)

2010-03-05 Thread Jason Beaudoin
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Ted Roby ted.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Jason Beaudoin jasonbeaud...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Nick Holland n...@holland-consulting.net wrote: Tomas Bodzar wrote: Which VMware August bug you mean? This one or

Re: OT: vmware mind control (WAS: Re: Dell PE850 CERC SATA controller)

2010-03-05 Thread Ted Roby
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Jason Beaudoin jasonbeaud...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Ted Roby ted.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Jason Beaudoin jasonbeaud...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Nick Holland

Re: OT: vmware mind control (WAS: Re: Dell PE850 CERC SATA controller)

2010-03-05 Thread Scott McEachern
Ted Roby wrote: Hey, I got a 2 GB usb stick for my troubles over a recent fiasco with VMWare's release of Fusion 3. It seems their PR department is doing a better job than QC. Ooo, a trinket from WallyMart that you can buy for pocket change! Thanks.. I think. Hey, it's better than

Dell PE850 CERC SATA controller

2010-03-04 Thread FRLinux
Hello, i read from the current documentation that it is not advised to purchase hardware containing the following (taken from http://www.openbsd.org/i386.html) Adaptec FSA-based RAID controllers (aac), including: (*) Note: In the past years Adaptec has lied to us repeatedly about forthcoming

Re: Dell PE850 CERC SATA controller

2010-03-04 Thread Michael Lechtermann
Hi, Am 04.03.2010 16:32, schrieb FRLinux: Hello, i read from the current documentation that it is not advised to purchase hardware containing the following (taken from http://www.openbsd.org/i386.html) Adaptec FSA-based RAID controllers (aac), including: (*) Note: In the past years Adaptec

Re: Dell PE850 CERC SATA controller

2010-03-04 Thread Tomas Bodzar
You just think that it's running perfectly under Linux ;-) See eg. this post http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=125783114503531w=2 On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Michael Lechtermann mich...@lechtermann.net wrote: Hi, Am 04.03.2010 16:32, schrieb FRLinux: Hello, i read from the current

Re: Dell PE850 CERC SATA controller

2010-03-04 Thread FRLinux
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Tomas Bodzar tomas.bod...@gmail.com wrote: You just think that it's running perfectly under Linux ;-) See eg. this post http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=125783114503531w=2 Ah, I had actually skipped that one back then, thanks for pointing that to me. So I now

Re: Dell PE850 CERC SATA controller

2010-03-04 Thread Marco Peereboom
That card is a bag of ass. Do yourself a favor and throw it in a moat. On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 11:55:56PM +, FRLinux wrote: On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Tomas Bodzar tomas.bod...@gmail.com wrote: You just think that it's running perfectly under Linux ;-) See eg. this post

Re: Dell PE850 CERC SATA controller

2010-03-04 Thread Nick Holland
Tomas Bodzar wrote: You just think that it's running perfectly under Linux ;-) See eg. this post http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=125783114503531w=2 I've been waiting for an excuse to update that story... :) First of all, I want you to note that was posted in November. It is now March,

Re: Dell PE850 CERC SATA controller

2010-03-04 Thread FRLinux
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Nick Holland n...@holland-consulting.net wrote: Now, tell me again how horrible it is that OpenBSD doesn't let you trust your data (and OpenBSD's reputation) to these incompetent assholes? Thanks for the update, you convinced me the last time but have definitely

Re: Dell PE850 CERC SATA controller

2010-03-04 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 19:47:38 -0500 Nick Holland n...@holland-consulting.net wrote: Tomas Bodzar wrote: You just think that it's running perfectly under Linux ;-) See eg. this post http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=125783114503531w=2 Think about this a bit. These people DELIBERATELY put a

booby trapped firmware (was Re: Dell PE850 CERC SATA controller)

2010-03-04 Thread Lars Nooden
On 2010-3-5 2:47 AM, Nick Holland wrote: Think about this a bit. These people DELIBERATELY put a feature in their firmware to STOP me (and a lot of other people) from using this card. Legit user, but they felt that I was entitled to help them debug their shit for no more than sixty days.