[MoLiCo]

2010-10-31 Thread Fred B. Ellison
This Sunday is Halloween, the scariest day of the year. Unless you're a Democrat. Then that would be next Tuesday. -- Jay Leno Once a government is committed to the principle of silencing the voice of

RE: Fw: [MoLiCo] Terrorists

2010-10-31 Thread Jerry Blevins
This link might put some light on this discussion, don't know however, a lot of people seem to not want to accept the truth. We must face the fact that Islam is evil and if you must believe in Islam to be a Muslim (and you do), then the people who subscribe to that have to believe in evil and

Re: Fw: [MoLiCo] Terrorists

2010-10-31 Thread Tom Martz
Is it a requirement that all Catholic priest believe in moloesting children is the way of the church..? On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Jerry Blevins jb...@mchsi.com wrote: This link might put some light on this discussion, don’t know however, a lot of people seem to not want to accept the

RE: Fw: [MoLiCo] Terrorists

2010-10-31 Thread Jerry Blevins
Answer is NO!!! From: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com [mailto:missourilibertycoalit...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Martz Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 12:30 PM To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Fw: [MoLiCo] Terrorists Is it a requirement that all

Re: Fw: [MoLiCo] Terrorists

2010-10-31 Thread Tom Martz
So then AL Muslims need not be evil to follow the religion, your comparison is no different then saying all LDS members practice polygamy back in the day when it has been shown that in reality was not the case and in many instances there weren't enough men after the trek to Utah to care for women

Re: Fw: [MoLiCo] Terrorists

2010-10-31 Thread D L Wells
I'm glad to see that this well-respected person didn't make a blanket statement that all Muslims are evil. If someone is spewing or advocating violence, I would expect the authorities to be at their door asking questions, whether they're Muslim or not. Jerry, I think where you and I differ on

Re: [MoLiCo] Muslims Are Evil According to Jerry

2010-10-31 Thread Jeremy D. Young
So, I did not misunderstand your position then? What exactly does it take to be categorized as evil Jerry? How many counter examples will convince you that you cannot categorize over 1 Billion people as being the same? I have persisted in my conversations with Linda because she actually shared

Re: [MoLiCo] Muslims Are Evil According to Jerry

2010-10-31 Thread Fred B. Ellison
Jeremy,   If you remember history, Ronald Reagan called the Soviet Union an evil empire because of the Communist political and economic system that was imposed on its own citizens and that its leaders sought to impose on the rest of the world. I want you to understand in no uncertain terms that

Re: Fw: [MoLiCo] Terrorists

2010-10-31 Thread Linda Herd
Jerry, Sometimes we get confused or at least I do. You do remember that I did go ahead to read the Que'ran. If one believes in the Que'ran then he beleives in Mohammad and Mohammad never said in the Que'ran to do anything evil, nor kill and etc. It is the terrorists that want us to think

Re: Fw: [MoLiCo] Terrorists

2010-10-31 Thread Linda Herd
Well now I never have heard that. Again, I do not lump all Mormans into one basket either. It is what you live that counts. I have been violent a few times but now I couldn't be if I wanted to be and in my golden years I do not want violence in my life. I have never been in anything like this

Re: [MoLiCo] Muslims Are Evil According to Jerry

2010-10-31 Thread Linda Herd
Folks, Does this help any of you?  There has been a debate on channel BTV over whether or not Islam is a religion of peace or it is a religion of war. Both sides were Muslims. One said she was reading out the Que'ran and she read that Mohammad wrote that Muslims were to enslave infidels. I did

RE: [MoLiCo] Muslims Are Evil According to Jerry

2010-10-31 Thread Jerry Blevins
This is to Jeremy, I have no problem in an open conversation with this group with my own thought's, I just do not like to reinvent the wheel and this is why I use and will continue to use information that has already addressed the issue. Jerry -Original Message- From:

RE: Fw: [MoLiCo] Terrorists

2010-10-31 Thread Jerry Blevins
This is to Deb, I repeat, We must face the fact that Islam is evil and if you must believe in Islam to be a Muslim (and you do), then the people who subscribe to that have to believe in evil and that is the truth. Jerry From: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com

Re: [MoLiCo] Muslims Are Evil According to Jerry

2010-10-31 Thread Tom Martz
So the info which addresses the issue that is not along your ideas then are immediately discounted as fallacy. WOW NO wonder we've become sheep in the scheme of our government. I guess I could introduce you to some Muslim clients of mine but they wouldn't be telling the truth either according to

RE: Fw: [MoLiCo] Terrorists

2010-10-31 Thread Jerry Blevins
This is for Tom, if you have to believe in something that is evil in order to be part of that group, then I believe you are accepting evil as a foundation to that belief. Jerry From: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com [mailto:missourilibertycoalit...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of

Re: [MoLiCo] Muslims Are Evil According to Jerry

2010-10-31 Thread Jeremy D. Young
OK. Under what conditions can you take away the rights of a citizen of the United States? This is very basic, and I'm trying to see what the consequences of your ideas of Muslims are evil turn out to be. On 10/31/2010 08:13 PM, Jerry Blevins wrote: This is to Jeremy, I have no problem in an

Re: [MoLiCo] Muslims Are Evil According to Jerry

2010-10-31 Thread Jeremy D. Young
Fred, thank you for your thoughts on the matter. Let me preface this by saying that I am not attempting to argue that Islam is valid, or in its normal practice is good. Many nations that profess to be led by Muslims oppress the women of their lands and have no justice extended to non Muslims.

Re: [MoLiCo] Muslims Are Evil According to Jerry

2010-10-31 Thread Jeremy D. Young
Linda, Yes, clearly there are people in the Middle East that are violent. History tells us that Muslims went upon a Jihad across all of Northern Africa and were stopped in Spain. Unfortunately, Constantine (the first Christian Emperor of Rome) conquered all of Southern Europe, Israel, Northern

Re: [MoLiCo] Defend the Constitution

2010-10-31 Thread Jeremy D. Young
Even though this is inherently not a theological debate, I happen to believe Romans 3:23 For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. However, under our law, we do not seek to judge all sin. We seek only to protect people from each other, not themselves. In that, we should judge each