Re: [tdf-moderators] Closing down a list?

2013-05-09 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) It's a bit difficult to prove or disprove without having even just a trial period.  I'd not heard about the Firebird issue.  Could i pass that around to a few other people that are working on different aspects of Base, such as those in documentation, the users list and such or is it

Re: [tdf-moderators] Closing down a list?

2013-05-09 Thread Michael Meeks
On Thu, 2013-05-09 at 10:29 +0100, Tom Davies wrote: It's a bit difficult to prove or disprove without having even just a trial period. Sure we have to make a decision based on our experience. Then again, having a clear, focused purpose and audience to the list would be good;

Re: [tdf-moderators] Mailing list - responsibilities?

2013-05-09 Thread Donald Norwood
Hi Florian, On 05/09/2013 02:26 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi Donald, Donald Norwood wrote on 2013-05-09 03:40: Are we only receiving moderation requests for the mirrors mailing list or all the the mailing lists? My confusion comes from the initial email with the fill mail listing. it's

[tdf-moderators] extending the moderators mailing list to the forums as well.

2013-05-09 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Hey Florian Marc and everyone. I was just thinking seeing as we have a moderators mailing list now for the mailing lists, could the moderators email address be extended to use with the forums when that time comes? -- Jonathan Aquilina -- To unsubscribe e-mail to:

Re: [tdf-moderators] extending the moderators mailing list to the forums as well.

2013-05-09 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Tom The forums are still in development stages, sadly that stopped so I am not sure what the deal is there. Marc Pare would be the guy to talk to if you want to help out there. Florian i agree with Tom this should be a central list for all projects that need moderation. Does the wiki and other

Re: [tdf-moderators] nabble moderation

2013-05-09 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi Sophie, Sophie Gautier wrote on 2013-05-09 15:10: I was adapting my moderation folder and realized that I might be the only one moderating the Nabble gateway now that Drew is away for a while, or is there anybody else with me? this is not a charge, there is very few to do, but more for the

Re: [tdf-moderators] nabble moderation

2013-05-09 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I would be quite happy to be a moderator on Nabble too.  At the moment it feels weird not being able to help there as i still see the normal emails and Nabble as being the same thing.  It's confusing me. Regards from Tom :)  From: Sophie Gautier

[tdf-moderators] Fwd: Please moderate mirr...@documentfoundation.org: Software Solutions for Small, Medium Large Businesses

2013-05-09 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
florian any chance you can black list this domain as this is the 3rd email today from the same company in the span of a few hrs to the mirrors list i have rejected them all but still its very annoying that they are still pushing to spam the list. -- Forwarded message -- From:

Re: [tdf-moderators] extending the moderators mailing list to the forums as well.

2013-05-09 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Would it be worth sending out an email to those moderators of other parts of the project such as wiki etc to sign up here? Maybe as well making a global announcement that if anyone finds spam on mailing lists etc for example can contact moderators here. On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Florian

Re: [tdf-moderators] nabble moderation

2013-05-09 Thread Sophie Gautier
On 09/05/2013 15:11, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi Sophie, Sophie Gautier wrote on 2013-05-09 15:10: I was adapting my moderation folder and realized that I might be the only one moderating the Nabble gateway now that Drew is away for a while, or is there anybody else with me? this is not a

Re: [tdf-moderators] Fwd: Please moderate mirr...@documentfoundation.org: Software Solutions for Small, Medium Large Businesses

2013-05-09 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi Jonathan, Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2013-05-09 15:20: florian any chance you can black list this domain as this is the 3rd email today from the same company in the span of a few hrs to the mirrors list i have rejected them all but still its very annoying that they are still pushing to spam

Re: [tdf-moderators] Fwd: Please moderate mirr...@documentfoundation.org: Software Solutions for Small, Medium Large Businesses

2013-05-09 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I get the impression that if we do nothing then the message gets blocked.  So if you don't like a message or think it's spam then it's fine to leave it.  We are mainly trying to catch the ones that should not have been blocked in order to unblock them.  Regard from Tom :) 

Re: [tdf-moderators] Fwd: Please moderate mirr...@documentfoundation.org: Software Solutions for Small, Medium Large Businesses

2013-05-09 Thread Sophie Gautier
On 09/05/2013 15:52, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: Isnt that the same thing as emailing back saying reject? yes, it's said on the mail that passed a 10 (?) days delay, the mail will be automagically destroyed :) Kind regards Sophie -- To unsubscribe e-mail to:

Re: [tdf-moderators] extending the moderators mailing list to the forums as well.

2013-05-09 Thread Petr Mladek
I am sorry for this spam. My fingers were too fast and sent an empty reply to a wrong mail. Best Regards, Petr Petr Mladek píše v Čt 09. 05. 2013 v 15:43 +0200: Florian Effenberger píše v Čt 09. 05. 2013 v 14:57 +0200: Hi, Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2013-05-09 14:56: Hey Florian Marc

Re: [tdf-moderators] Fwd: Please moderate mirr...@documentfoundation.org: Software Solutions for Small, Medium Large Businesses

2013-05-09 Thread anne-ology
There's a problem with replying to a spammer; in that way you're merely acknowledging that the e-address is valid. To my way of thinking, that's a bad thing to do; isn't it better to ignore hope the spammer will give up. Also, these spammers tend to use slightly different

Re: [tdf-moderators] Fwd: Please moderate mirr...@documentfoundation.org: Software Solutions for Small, Medium Large Businesses

2013-05-09 Thread anne-ology
as in Mission Impossible ;-) On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Sophie Gautier gautier.sop...@gmail.comwrote: On 09/05/2013 15:52, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: Isnt that the same thing as emailing back saying reject? yes, it's said on the mail that passed a 10 (?) days delay, the mail

Re: [tdf-moderators] Fwd: Please moderate mirr...@documentfoundation.org: Software Solutions for Small, Medium Large Businesses

2013-05-09 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
this isnt replying to the spammer this is replying to the server telling it to reject the message. thanks to google this saved this address automatically this is what i am replying to discuss+reject-2521220c3d6c2f84 discuss+reject-2521220c3d6c2...@documentfoundation.org which tells mlmmj to

Re: [tdf-moderators] Fwd: Please moderate mirr...@documentfoundation.org: Software Solutions for Small, Medium Large Businesses

2013-05-09 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) All true However if something reaches this list it has already been rejected.  We just try to rescue the ones that were valid and sent here by mistake.  Regards from Tom :)  From: Jonathan Aquilina eagles051...@gmail.com To: anne-ology

Re: [tdf-moderators] Fwd: Please moderate mirr...@documentfoundation.org: Software Solutions for Small, Medium Large Businesses

2013-05-09 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Totally agreed I think what anne-ology was concerned we would be sending an email back to the spammer saying this is a valid email keep on spamming me. On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) All true However if something reaches this list it has

Re: [tdf-moderators] Fwd: Please moderate mirr...@documentfoundation.org: Software Solutions for Small, Medium Large Businesses

2013-05-09 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Jean-Baptiste, *, On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Jean-Baptiste Faure jbf.fa...@sud-ouest.org wrote: Le 09/05/2013 16:49, Christian Lohmaier a écrit : On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Sophie Gautier gautier.sop...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/05/2013 15:52, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: Isnt that

Re: [tdf-moderators] Fwd: Please moderate mirr...@documentfoundation.org: Software Solutions for Small, Medium Large Businesses

2013-05-09 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
that is a very valid question. On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Jean-Baptiste Faure jbf.fa...@sud-ouest.org wrote: Hi, Le 09/05/2013 16:49, Christian Lohmaier a écrit : Hi *, On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Sophie Gautier gautier.sop...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/05/2013 15:52, Jonathan

Re: [tdf-moderators] Fwd: Please moderate mirr...@documentfoundation.org: Software Solutions for Small, Medium Large Businesses

2013-05-09 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Jean-Baptiste rejecting the email gets it off the server so to speak otherwise just ignoring it it sits there for 10 days before being rejected. On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Christian Lohmaier lohma...@googlemail.comwrote: Hi Jean-Baptiste, *, On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Jean-Baptiste

[tdf-moderators] Re: Mailing list behavior

2013-05-09 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Jan Holesovsky ke...@suse.cz wrote: Hi Jonathan, Jonathan Aquilina píše v Čt 09. 05. 2013 v 17:58 +0200: that is a very valid question. I appreciate your energy you spend here, but can you please decrease the amount of mail you write to tdf-moderators@? A

Re: [tdf-moderators] Mailing list behavior

2013-05-09 Thread anne-ology
What's the matter with Jonathan's method? And Top-posting is the most logical method; otherwise you have to re-read what you've already read in order to see the new bit. [are bottom-posters so forgetful???] HOW can you condemn Jonathan's behaviour

Re: [tdf-moderators] Mailing list behavior

2013-05-09 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Anne, what the bottom posters want is to make it awkward for people.  They don't want you to just reply to the message.  You have to edit out the bits that in your opinion are not relevant anymore so that their message becomes your interpretation of what they might have been trying to

Re: [tdf-moderators] Mailing list behavior

2013-05-09 Thread Florian Effenberger
Tom, Tom Davies wrote on 2013-05-09 20:26: Notice that the Netiquette guide is from several decades ago, it's pre-hand-helds, pre-tablets, even pre-mobile-phones. It's deeply routed in ancient technology and old ways of doing things from an era that has long since gone. this Netiquette is

Re: [tdf-moderators] Mailing list behavior

2013-05-09 Thread anne-ology
I agree. And I will continue to be logical, using common sense. And I will continue to defend those who are unfairly attacked; even if it means being attacked myself. I've always followed this advice; I see no reason to cease now, On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 1:26 PM,

Re: [tdf-moderators] Mailing list behavior

2013-05-09 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi, Am 09.05.2013 21:19, schrieb anne-ology: I agree. What do you agree to? Stefan -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: moderators+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/

Re: [tdf-moderators] Mailing list behavior

2013-05-09 Thread Sophie Gautier
Hi Anne, Tom, On 09/05/2013 21:19, anne-ology wrote: I agree. And I will continue to be logical, using common sense. And I will continue to defend those who are unfairly attacked; even if it means being attacked myself. I've always followed this advice; I see