kyle dawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wed, 06 Dec 2000 05:52, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
6. Engineering
The Perl community is made up of a truly eclectic group of people, which
is an amazing strength. However, it's also an amazing weakness: I get
the impression that very few
Robin Berjon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
At 14:07 06/12/2000 -0500, kyle dawkins wrote:
Ok, you're missing my point but that's partially my fault for not explaining.
First, let me agree: Java's "everything is an object" mentality sucks
balls. And yes, Perl's duality of functional/OO is
On 7 Dec 2000, David Hodgkinson wrote:
Development are two of the bibles. I have to say though,
I've avoided the Design Patterns type books purely
because of the C++/Java bias.
you sure are missing out.
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On Thu, 07 Dec 2000 11:33, you wrote:
On 7 Dec 2000, David Hodgkinson wrote:
Development are two of the bibles. I have to say though,
I've avoided the Design Patterns type books purely
because of the C++/Java bias.
you sure are missing out.
I second that. You should lose your
I would agree. If you want to see design patterns in practical action with
relation to mod_perl.. go to
http://www.extropia.com/ExtropiaObjects/
and skim through Chapters 10 (App Architecture) and on (on the individual
app toolkit components). Each one contains a sidebar on how design
On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, kyle dawkins wrote:
[1. two types of developer]
agreed.
[2. Perl4 / Perl5 ]
This is also true. Although a lot of "Perl programmers" haven't got a clue
about the object orientation stuff in Perl5 either. On the other side of
the coin, too many people are jumping on the "It's
Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, kyle dawkins wrote:
* We implement a "mode" under mod_perl, kind of like "use strict", that
suddenly forces Perl to behave well from an object-oriented standpoint. By
this, I mean taking some of the power away from Perl that causes
I've always considered mod_perl similar to an artist's canvas, while Java is more like
a craftsman's tool kit.
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On Wed, 06 Dec 2000 05:52, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
6. Engineering
The Perl community is made up of a truly eclectic group of people, which
is an amazing strength. However, it's also an amazing weakness: I get
the impression that very few programmers in the Perl community spend a
At 14:07 06/12/2000 -0500, kyle dawkins wrote:
Ok, you're missing my point but that's partially my fault for not explaining.
First, let me agree: Java's "everything is an object" mentality sucks
balls. And yes, Perl's duality of functional/OO is really nice. Taking that
away is not what I
Everybody
This whole call for mod_perl advocacy is definitely a good thing. But we're
not going to get anywhere unless we understand the problem in detail. We can
run around all we like talking numbers and touting the virtues of mod_perl
but it's not going to actually do anything unless we
On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, kyle dawkins wrote:
* We need to drop-kick DBI out of the park... it's not that it's bad (it's
actually great... kudos to the DBI crew) but kind of the opposite; it's so
easy to use that most people don't think beyond it. How many of you have
ever thought about
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