Fwd: New CPANTS metrics

2008-06-10 Thread Eric Roode
Apologies to the list; I mistakenly sent this rant to Gabor Szabo only, when I meant to send it to the whole list for discussion. -- Eric -- Forwarded message -- From: Eric Roode [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:01 AM Subject: Re: New CPANTS metrics To: Gabor

Re: Fwd: New CPANTS metrics

2008-06-10 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008, Eric Roode wrote: * Then there are these, which are probably valid metrics, but of questionable utility: buildtool_not_executable: Nearly everyone does perl Makefile.PL or perl Build.PL. Note that this does not specify a specific perl, just the first one in the user's

Re: Fwd: New CPANTS metrics

2008-06-10 Thread David Cantrell
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:03:33AM -0400, Eric Roode wrote: I do not wish to rain on anyone's parade, and I do not wish to quash anyone's enthusiasm for improving Perl or its wide-ranging library of modules. However: I cannot for the life of me figure out what sort of value there is

Re: Fwd: New CPANTS metrics

2008-06-10 Thread Eric Roode
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Dave Rolsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Again, see above. These points codify existing community standards. The reason this is not much of a problem now in 2008 is probably because these standards have become so ingrained, both in terms of spreading the

Re: Fwd: New CPANTS metrics

2008-06-10 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! Uh, wow, why do CPANTS discussions always start when I'm low on tuits... A lot of your issues have already been addressed, and as my time is short ATM, I'll only awnser some of the remaining extracts_nicely: How much of a problem is this, really? A lot of people hate

Re: Fwd: New CPANTS metrics

2008-06-10 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:51 PM, Thomas Klausner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is_prereq is an optinal metric and thus does not count for the CPANTS game. And yes, Apps ususally won't get prerequed. Tough luck. Actually I'd love to be able to add some way to measure which module is used OUTSIDE of

Re: Fwd: New CPANTS metrics

2008-06-10 Thread Eric Roode
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Thomas Klausner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Uh, wow, why do CPANTS discussions always start when I'm low on tuits... Sorry :-) extracts_nicely: How much of a problem is this, really? A lot of people hate tarballs/zip-files that spew their content into

Re: Fwd: New CPANTS metrics

2008-06-10 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:21 PM, Eric Roode [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: extracts_nicely: How much of a problem is this, really? A lot of people hate tarballs/zip-files that spew their content into the current dir. Especially if the offending dists contains lots of files. Or a file with the

Re: Fwd: New CPANTS metrics

2008-06-10 Thread Eric Roode
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Gabor Szabo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:21 PM, Eric Roode [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I guess it does show the end-user of a module that the module author is smart enough not to shoot himself in the foot. The module author might be

Re: Fwd: New CPANTS metrics

2008-06-10 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:56 PM, Eric Roode [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I can quickly break the module. Maybe I won't even notice but someone who uses my version will start complaining. To you... I might be a bit more clever and add use strict and use warnings before I start changing your

Re: Fwd: New CPANTS metrics

2008-06-10 Thread David Golden
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 3:21 PM, Eric Roode [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well of course not. But use strict is simply a tool for helping developers write modules and programs more correctly. I guess it does show the end-user of a module that the module author is smart enough not to shoot himself