Re: RFC Text::UberText

2002-10-16 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
William == William R Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: William For me, it's because TT allows Perl to be embedded in the template. Not by default (you have to enable it specially). And not in any system of any size. Ask Andy or Perrin about building Very Large Systems with TT. Embedded Perl

Re: RFC Text::UberText

2002-10-16 Thread Frank Wiles
.--[ William R Ward wrote (2002/10/15 at 12:55:30) ]-- | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Randal L. Schwartz) writes: | OK, here we go... | | Chris 5. Template Toolkit | | Chris The closest match to Text::UberText is the Template Toolkit. | Chris It allows for template

Re: RFC Text::UberText

2002-10-16 Thread William R Ward
Chris Josephes writes: On 15 Oct 2002, William R Ward wrote: For me, it's because TT allows Perl to be embedded in the template. That way lies madness. The advantage of a templating system is that you can leave the template maintenance to someone who doesn't know programming, and let the

Re: RFC Text::UberText

2002-10-15 Thread Terrence Brannon
On Tuesday, October 15, 2002, at 01:32 AM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Chris == Chris Josephes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Chris 1. Create a template language specification that was easy to Chris read and write. People using the language should not be Chris required to have strong programming

Re: RFC Text::UberText

2002-10-15 Thread Christopher Hicks
On Tue, 15 Oct 2002, Terrence Brannon wrote: 1. developing a good language is very difficult. 2. why do we need a template *language*. What is it about templating that requires a new *language*? Templating entails a few simple operations that can be handled in any general purpose language -

Re: RFC Text::UberText

2002-10-15 Thread Chris Josephes
On Tue, 15 Oct 2002, Terrence Brannon wrote: Chris 2. The template language should not follow Perl syntax rules, Chris or be designed with preference towards Perl users or Chris programmers. 1. developing a good language is very difficult. I didn't mean to necessarily infer the

Re: RFC Text::UberText

2002-10-15 Thread Chris Josephes
On 15 Oct 2002, William R Ward wrote: For me, it's because TT allows Perl to be embedded in the template. That way lies madness. The advantage of a templating system is that you can leave the template maintenance to someone who doesn't know programming, and let the programmer focus on the

Re: RFC Text::UberText

2002-10-14 Thread William R Ward
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Josephes) writes: SYNOPSIS I've been working on a set of modules for a couple of weeks now based on work I've been doing with several web page authors and copywriters. I created a module named Text::UberText which is designed to be a lightweight template system

Re: RFC Text::UberText

2002-10-14 Thread Chris Josephes
On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Andy Wardley wrote: Chris Josephes wrote: 2. Text::MetaText [...] ...but it has a very limited command set with no means to allow for expansion. ... and has been superceded by the Template Toolkit. Oops. Sorry about that. I should have pointed that out. Is

Re: RFC Text::UberText

2002-10-14 Thread Andy Wardley
Chris Josephes wrote: 2. Text::MetaText [...] ...but it has a very limited command set with no means to allow for expansion. and has been superceded by the Template Toolkit. A

Re: RFC Text::UberText

2002-10-14 Thread David Kaufman
Chris Josephes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 14 Oct 2002, William R Ward wrote: You overlooked HTML::Template, which I think would meet all of your needs. It is unfortunately buried under HTML:: but it is useful for all kinds of templating tasks. HTML::Template doesn't look like it's

Re: RFC Text::UberText

2002-10-14 Thread Chris Josephes
On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, David Kaufman wrote: the way to avoid your two concerns (permissions and support) is to participate in the community, join the mailing list of the system you like best, and would want to contribute to, listen a while, and suggest your changes. most likely they will be

Re: RFC Text::UberText

2002-10-13 Thread Chris Josephes
On Sat, 12 Oct 2002, Leon Brocard wrote: Chris Josephes sent the following bits through the ether: Given the high number of template systems out there, it is easy to understand the reluctance or hesitation in adding another one to CPAN. Everyone seems to write their own template

RFC Text::UberText

2002-10-11 Thread Chris Josephes
SYNOPSIS I've been working on a set of modules for a couple of weeks now based on work I've been doing with several web page authors and copywriters. I created a module named Text::UberText which is designed to be a lightweight template system with the ability to be extended easily with