Re: James Keenan's other modules (was: Re: CGI::Simple)

2007-01-12 Thread Andy Armstrong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12 Jan 2007, at 10:16, David Landgren wrote: Do we wait until someone else manifests a need to dust off one of them to hand over maintenance? Or do we forget about it until next time? If it's worth it, then I would volunteer. Actually I was

Re: James Freenan's (not Keenan's) other modules (was: Re: CGI::Simple)

2007-01-12 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 12 Jan 2007, at 10:56, Adriano Ferreira wrote: For the record, James Keenan is an active developer (http://search.cpan.org/~jkeenan/). The modules in question were found in James Freeman's directory (http://search.cpan.org/~jfreeman/). Did anyone mention James Keenan? -- Andy Armstrong,

Re: James Freeman's other modules (was: Re: CGI::Simple)

2007-01-12 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 12 Jan 2007, at 10:58, Fergal Daly wrote: Changing the subject from Keenan to Freeman (James Keenan is not MIA), Ah - I didn't even read the subject :) -- Andy Armstrong, hexten.net

Re: James Freeman's other modules

2007-01-12 Thread David Landgren
I was also wondering whether - given that backpan exists so people can always find them if they really want them - there shouldn't be a mechanism for removing modules that are unloved and unused. That strikes me as a little severe. Some may be packaged with OS distributions. Heap::Priority

Re: James Freeman's other modules (was: Re: CGI::Simple)

2007-01-12 Thread Fergal Daly
Changing the subject from Keenan to Freeman (James Keenan is not MIA), F On 12/01/07, Andy Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12 Jan 2007, at 10:16, David Landgren wrote: Do we wait until someone else manifests a need to dust off one of them

Re: James Keenan's other modules (was: Re: CGI::Simple)

2007-01-12 Thread Andy Lester
On Jan 12, 2007, at 4:49 AM, Andy Armstrong wrote: I was also wondering whether - given that backpan exists so people can always find them if they really want them - there shouldn't be a mechanism for removing modules that are unloved and unused. How in the world could you determine

Re: James Freeman's other modules

2007-01-12 Thread Philippe Bruhat (BooK)
Le vendredi 12 janvier 2007 à 14:11, David Landgren écrivait: I was also wondering whether - given that backpan exists so people can always find them if they really want them - there shouldn't be a mechanism for removing modules that are unloved and unused. That strikes me as a little

Re: James Freeman's other modules

2007-01-12 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Fri, Jan 12, 2007 at 03:09:00PM +0100, Philippe Bruhat (BooK) wrote: Maybe a yearly email from PAUSE asking them to click a I'm still active form would be enough? I get enough spam already. On Fri, Jan 12, 2007 at 08:07:57AM -0600, Andy Lester wrote: How in the world could you determine

Re: James Freeman's other modules

2007-01-12 Thread Smylers
Andy Armstrong writes: For that reason attempting to do any completely automated garbage collection on CPAN would be fraught - but it might be possible to automatically identify modules that /might/ be dormant and then manually sift through them. Trying to change Cpan is likely to be hard:

Re: James Freeman's other modules

2007-01-12 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 12 Jan 2007, at 15:06, Smylers wrote: If your hunch turns out to be correct then your service (or whatever) will turn out to be more useful than the existing one. People will start using it. At that point in can be blessed with more 'official' status. For example, consider JJ's Perldoc

Re: James Freeman's other modules

2007-01-12 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Jan 12, 2007 at 03:27:04PM +0100, Philippe Bruhat (BooK) wrote: Le vendredi 12 janvier 2007 à 14:12, Nicholas Clark écrivait: On Fri, Jan 12, 2007 at 03:09:00PM +0100, Philippe Bruhat (BooK) wrote: Maybe a yearly email from PAUSE asking them to click a I'm still active form would

Re: James Freeman's other modules

2007-01-12 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 12 Jan 2007, at 15:55, Chris wrote: So... what does the A in CPAN stand for again? Hang on... It's on the tip of my tongue... I'm not sure how easy it would be to track #3, because people could be downloading the modules from other sites, or in different packaged formats. And I don't

Re: James Freeman's other modules

2007-01-12 Thread Jonas B. Nielsen
Hi, It is important to mention that CPAN is put to use by other things than the CPAN shell and search.cpan.org such as the FreeBSD port system. So at least a few last versions should be always be available via CPAN. Ref: http://use.perl.org/~jonasbn/journal/28503 jonasbn On 12/01/2007,

Re: James Freeman's other modules

2007-01-12 Thread David Landgren
Smylers wrote: [stuff about detecting dead modules] I'm not entirely sure what problem you're trying to solve here. But that's largely irrelevant -- because however good your idea is, there's bound to be somebody in the Perl community questioning it or objecting to it! So don't wait for

Re: James Freeman's other modules

2007-01-12 Thread Sébastien Aperghis-Tramoni
David Landgren wrote: One thing that makes it difficult to play along at home is that there's no easy way to obtain a dump of the cpan.org RT tickets, short of violently scraping a web server that's already slow enough as it is. If one could obtain a tarball of a tab-delimited file

Re: James Freeman's other modules

2007-01-12 Thread Chris
On Fri, 12 Jan 2007, Andy Armstrong wrote: Noise reduction / cage cleaning basically. Everything gets archived in backpan anyway - and I'm not necessarily proposing removing things from CPAN - but if we could add some metadata about whether a module was actively supported that alone might

Re: James Freeman's other modules

2007-01-12 Thread Andreas J. Koenig
On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 14:54:28 +, Andy Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: 2 actively used, abandoned [...] identify cat 2 modules with a view to flagging them as abandoned The DSLIP status code has an 'a' reserved for the 'S' to mean support level: abandoned It is even used

Module::Build and the Test Harness Report in the CPAN Testers

2007-01-12 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi all! In this message to Israel.PM: http://perl.org.il/pipermail/perl/2006-September/008165.html Yuval Kogman claimed that Module::Build generates CPAN testers reports with no output from the test harness. Now, I released Math::GrahamFunction, which is based on Module::Build, a few days ago

Re: Module::Build and the Test Harness Report in the CPAN Testers

2007-01-12 Thread Sébastien Aperghis-Tramoni
Shlomi Fish wrote: Hi all! Hello Shlomi, Yuval Kogman claimed that Module::Build generates CPAN testers reports with no output from the test harness. Now, I released Math::GrahamFunction, which is based on Module::Build, a few days ago and today received this failure error report:

Re: Module::Build and the Test Harness Report in the CPAN Testers

2007-01-12 Thread David Golden
On 1/12/07, Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yuval Kogman claimed that Module::Build generates CPAN testers reports with no output from the test harness. Now, I released Math::GrahamFunction, which is based on Module::Build, a few days ago and today received this failure error report: