[MORPHMET] digitizing very variable leaves

2018-03-19 Thread 'Tina Klenovšek' via MORPHMET
Thank you all for sharing experiences and ideas. For the moment we decided to stick to methods based on landmarks but analyze simple leaves and leaves with exactly three lobes separately. In addition, leaves from simple oval to heavily lobed will be analyzed jointly with outline methods as most

Re: [MORPHMET] digitizing very variable leaves

2018-03-15 Thread Paolo Piras
R. > > Tina > > > > *From:* Paolo Piras [mailto:paolopir...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, March 15, 2018 2:14 PM > *To:* Carmelo Fruciano > *Cc:* MORPHMET > *Subject:* Re: [MORPHMET] digitizing very variable leaves > > > > Hi Tina, > > if your colleagues are i

Re: [MORPHMET] digitizing very variable leaves

2018-03-15 Thread Paolo Piras
m:* Joanna Lenarczyk [mailto:j.kowal...@botany.pl > <j.kowal...@botany.pl>] > *Sent:* Thursday, March 15, 2018 10:21 AM > *To:* Tina Klenovšek > *Subject:* Re: [MORPHMET] digitizing very variable leaves > > > > Hello Tina, > > You can try a program which does not need land

Re: [MORPHMET] digitizing very variable leaves

2018-03-15 Thread Carmelo Fruciano
lyse outline data and visualize variability? Thank you again, Tina *From:*Joanna Lenarczyk [mailto:j.kowal...@botany.pl] *Sent:* Thursday, March 15, 2018 10:21 AM *To:* Tina Klenovšek *Subject:* Re: [MORPHMET] digitizing very variable leaves Hello Tina, You can try a program which does not

RE: [MORPHMET] digitizing very variable leaves

2018-03-15 Thread 'Tina Klenovšek' via MORPHMET
and species. In which user friendly program (like MorphoJ ☺) can I analyse outline data and visualize variability? Thank you again, Tina From: Joanna Lenarczyk [mailto:j.kowal...@botany.pl] Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 10:21 AM To: Tina Klenovšek Subject: Re: [MORPHMET] digitizing very variable leaves

RE: [MORPHMET] digitizing very variable leaves

2018-03-15 Thread f.james.rohlf
. Ecology & Evolution Research Professor, Anthropology Stony Brook University From: Tina Klenovšek <tina.klenov...@um.si> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 12:28 AM To: f.james.rohlf <f.james.ro...@stonybrook.edu> Cc: morphmet@morphometrics.org Subject: RE: [MORPHMET] digitizing very

RE: [MORPHMET] digitizing very variable leaves

2018-03-14 Thread 'Tina Klenovšek' via MORPHMET
: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 3:59 AM To: Tina Klenovšek Subject: Re: [MORPHMET] digitizing very variable leaves An assumption of the usual GMM methods is that shape variation is "small". I think these leaves exceed this quite a bit! Another problem is landmarks. How to match leaves with a