Holger Metzger wrote:
Hera are some interesting links:
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/8466/LANG01.html
http://www.armenianhighland.com/homeland/chronicle120.html
http://members.pgv.at/homer/INDOEURO/syntax.htm
Now I have heard the following expression about some languages:
1. English ...
Sören Kuklau wrote:
German is a lot harder than English, yes, but there are even more
difficult languages. German is one of the most important languages -
after English, Chinese and Japanese.
And what is it that makes a language important?
Ian Davey wrote:
Least significant to most significant, or most significant to least
significant does seem to be pretty much a standard. I've never really
understood the logic behind the US format.
At least it is consistent with the way you write the date in American
English.
e.g. March
JTK wrote:
BAHAHHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAH!!!
YOU AOL EMPLOYEES KNOW WHAT I'M LAUGHING MY KIESTER OFF ABOUT!!!
For those of you who don't, read these HILARIOUS articles:
AOL mail: OK for others, not itself
http://www.msnbc.com/news/727898.asp?cp1=1
Return
RV wrote:
JTK wrote:
BAHAHHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAH!!!
YOU AOL EMPLOYEES KNOW WHAT I'M LAUGHING MY KIESTER OFF ABOUT!!!
For those of you who don't, read these HILARIOUS articles:
AOL mail: OK for others, not itself
http://www.msnbc.com/news/727898.asp?cp1=1
RV wrote:
And here is a URL so that you can ROTFL (roll on the floor laughing) ...
as AOLers say.
ooops, I was LMHO and forgot to include the link
http://www.osopinion.com/perl/story/15295.html
I noticed a new Download Manager under Tasks Tools. Mozilla is
coalescing quickly towards version 1.0. I also like the Calendar and the
new Spell Checker, both available at mosdev.mozilla.org. Both work quite
well.
dman84 wrote:
RV wrote:
AOL is reuesting AOl beta testers for AOL+Gecko. They will incorporate
gecko into AOL 7.0, not waiting for AOL 8.0 as many thought before.
The announcement reads as follows:
no, they will be incorporating AOL 7.0 with Gecko to get AOL 8.0, not
into Aol 7.0
Sören Kuklau wrote:
Are you sure the Gecko version will be actually *released* as final
product? As far as I know, it's just a beta test build built on AOL 7.0
and an embedded Gecko - but the actual Gecko-powered AOL will be 8.0.
Who cares how they call it? Will it make a diference if they
JTK wrote:
Jonas Jørgensen wrote:
JTK wrote:
Huh. I wonder if this has any possible connection to the sudden
increase in the number of showstoppers that have been getting fixed
recently. Oh, what am I saying! AOL is not in any way related to
Mozila!
Someone will have to start
It would be great to get a list of sites, lets say top 50 of them. I can
post the list on the AOL+gecko beta Discussion group requesting other
beta testers to visit them and complain about their lack of AOL+gecko
compliance (that of course will help Mozilla/Netscape 6.x, Galeon, etc.)
A link
DeMoN LaG wrote:
Heh, what will Mozilla's market share look like with the additition of
30 million AOL members? Significantly higher than 1.0%, I think
Last year AOL was the top company in terms of e-commerce, either
directly or indirectly (routing its users to othe e-commerce site (I
AOL is reuesting AOl beta testers for AOL+Gecko. They will incorporate
gecko into AOL 7.0, not waiting for AOL 8.0 as many thought before. The
announcement reads as follows:
*Hello Beta Testers!
The Beta Team is happy to announce the start of a new Beta test -- AOL
7.0 with Netscape Gecko.
RealPlayer to
work (abcnews.com, video sections) and guess what *IT WORKS* perfectly!
I looked to see if there was a bug for this but couldn't find it. Anyone
having the same issue with Real Player should try what I did to see
if it works dor you.
RV
dman84 wrote:
works for me, thanks.. just seen this fix on mozillazine for 0.9.9
discussion too..
I posted it there too (bandido)
Parish wrote:
WFM too on my work machine. I installed 0.9.9 today. Only difference I
can see here is that you (WDA) are running on Win9x, I'm running W2K,
but Eric is running XP. Maybe it's an XP issue?
running on XP here and it crashes for me everytime too.
Netscape Basher wrote:
They picked up the story from newsforge.com, a pro-Linux site. If the
story had merits, the big boys like CNET would eat this up. AOL has no
plans to switch it's customers to Netscape. They are considering Linux
because it's a lot cheaper.
So lets see if I follow
Bundy wrote:
Lancer wrote:
I guess Mozilla 1.0 should debut with New Skin...
What do you think?
I agree when it is released in 2003.
JTK has vanished (almost), Bundy is here! Coincidence?
People love to hear themselves. How many time people have to post the
same information that other have posted before? Enough with this thread.
Time to kill it
For those who don't know, there is an xpi available that adds Calendar
to Mozilla The code was donated by OEONEcom and you can find it at:
http://wwwmozillaorg/projects/calendar/
Once it's installed, you must close Mozilla (including Quick Launch)and
reload Mozilla Calendar will appear as an
JTK wrote:
I have checked and checked and checked and I have not find a red star
with a golden oultline, a T-Rex head and Mozilla text written on it as a
pentagram associated with ANY communist state. Can you provide an URL
that points to such communist symbol?
I have on numerous
You can also try: http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/showbuilds.cgi?tree=SeaMonkey
Click on the names under the Guilty column, click on Last Check in,
Check ins within last 24 hours or Check ins within last 7 days to get
commits by that particular developer. It will take you to another page
with
David Tenser wrote:
Bug filed.
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125885
Since you agree, please comment in the bug listing! I guess, the more
people that backs up this suggestion, the more likely that it will be
implemented.
This is probably an enhancement that would take
Jeremy M. Dolan wrote:
I'd like to see a release candidate period for 1.0 put into place. In
the past serious bugs have slipped into milestone releases, and though
we'll likely be more careful this time about late check-ins, it seems
suicidal to indifferently schedule it as just another
JTK wrote:
Why? Simple: No commie theme. Put a nice hammer and sickle on it, a
little bit of Purge Red floodfilling, and it'd get right in.
I have checked and checked and checked and I have not find a red star
with a golden oultline, a T-Rex head and Mozilla text written on it as a
David Tenser wrote:
RV wrote:
David Tenser wrote:
Bug filed.
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125885
Since you agree, please comment in the bug listing! I guess, the more
people that backs up this suggestion, the more likely that it will be
implemented.
Well
Lancer wrote:
Please take a look, to see the progress of the site / Porfa, hecha un
vistazo para ver el progreso del sitio
http://www.geocities.com/charadew/
gracias / thanx
¿Qué quieres decir con *escritura MIME*. Me parece que no es español
correcto. ¿Quieres decir *estructura
JTK wrote:
...exactly. This isn't rocket science, it's brain surgery.
Are you implying rocket science is more complicated than brain surgery?
Anyone who think or believe the cliche about rocket science is in
desperate need for a brain surgeon.
There's simply no excuse (though you'll hear
Garth Almgren wrote:
JTK wrote:
RV wrote:
Using an Athlon 1.33 gHz/384 meg of RAM/ TNT2 Nvidia video card here and
IT FLIES! ;-) ...
Yeah, I know IE and NC4.7x BOTH fly on semi-modern hardware. I was
referring to *Mozilla*.
yeah yeah yeah, we all know you like swiss cheese, oops, I
JTK wrote:
RV wrote:
JTK wrote:
Yeah, I know IE and NC4.7x BOTH fly on semi-modern hardware. I was
referring to *Mozilla*.
Wordstar used to fly on old hardware too. Win 3.11 ran very well in a
486 environment with 4megs yet Win 95 replaced it despite the fact it
required a Pentium
Steve wrote:
* JTK [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Steve wrote:
Yeah sure, all you use it for is browsing the newgroups...no stress
little fella. You surely don't spend anytime working on your
`medical devices'. Now run-a-long and play.
If he would being spending more time trying to fix the
JS wrote:
Erik Harris wrote:
sn't appear in either case.
Am I missing something? Is there some way to make the Home icon
appear, or
is this a known (or not yet known) bug in Mozilla?
Odd quirk there. Running 0.9.7 here and have always had a /home/ button.
Click Edit Preferences
JTK wrote:
But what about the
other folks that have been seeing this - is it fixed for you guys too
now?
And who are those again? I don't recall anybody else complaining about
that problem. I read CNN, NYTimes, MSNBC, ABCNEWS every single day,
sometimes several times a day and I have never
JTK wrote:
BAHHAHHHAHAAA!!!
That is pure *GOLD* BABY YEAH!
Were you so zealous about quality when your company put in the market a
defective product that risks the lifes of many patients? I would like to
know how much you did to
Peter Lairo wrote:
JS wrote:
It don't work! Can somebody help me out here!?
I think java may be broken in recent nightlies (and milstone 0.9.7?). I
just filed a bug on this here:
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=117373
It works for me. using Win XP and latest nightly
JTK wrote:
The... ah why the hell
do I bother, nobody here cares enough about this project to put it to
sleep, let alone make it good.
You got that right ... nobody cares about what you think. Maybe you
should be the one who should go to sleep and have a chill pill.
Mozilla's failue or
barney wrote:
barney wrote:
I'm curious why mozilla is branching with a top crasher bug not yet fixed?
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114377
Branching doesn't mean they are releasing the 0.97. It means developers
are allowed to keep working on the trunk, adding fixes, features
JTK wrote:
Hey, did you guys know that the government found a videotape where bin
Laden admits to his terrorists attacks on 9-11? Yeah, I just read all
about it on CNN. They say they're going to probably release it
Wednesday.
Wednesday as in yesterday.
Don't blame Mozilla for snafus
Could it be true? A little bird told me AOL will start in 2 weeks beta
testing a new AOL with new technology incorporated. Same bird also told
me AOl has used th euphemism of 'new technology before to refer to
Komodo, the technology that will alllow swapping out IE HTML rendering
engine for
so much.
RV
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote:
Phillip:
The problem is that you are constantly making comments, responding to
others posts and critisizing using completely erroneous information.
That doesn't add any credibility to you, on the contrary. Sometimes you
respond to people with answers that
.
RV
Syd Logan wrote:
Not knowing any better, my read of the whole thing is that they ran 6.2
in order to generate the IE vs. 6.2 evaluation in which we tied IE,
but they did not produce an in-depth evaluation of 6.2 to replace their
earlier 6.1 in-depth evaluation (you'll notice
bugs were fixed (an others
added). They cannot claim the two products are essentially the same.
Hall Stevenson wrote:
* RV ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [011103 10:40]:
No, they did not test N6.2 at all...
One more time CNet has shown their irresponsible and inaccurate form
of journalism
I complained to CNet about their Netscape vs IE recent comparison. They
actually tested Netscape 5.1 vs IE, reported their results and then
later changed the article to read Netscape 6.2 instead of the tested
6.1. I got a letter from them which it it's quoted below. I am
flabergasted by the
sure doing that will take just a few minutes.
RV
User wrote:
Compuserve Classic is the genuine, original Compuserve network that has its own
independent
worldwide network. Since Worldcom, which owns AOL, which owns Compuserve (CIS) took
over a
number of years ago, Compuserve Classic has been using Worldcom (WCom) network
nodes, at least
Brian S. Craigie wrote:
On 9/26/01 12:35 AM, Gervase Markham wrote:
Don't recommend N6 at the current time it works no better or perhaps
worse than Moz.
Netscape 6.1 could be recommended to anyone who wants a stable browser
supported and QAed extensively by a commercial company. This
Mama Cass wrote:
In netscape.public.mozilla.general the people heard RV say these wise
words:
Do you expect a beta or pre-release
version to be fully operational without bugs or inconsistensies?
No.
But I expect fixes to be exactly that, and not be a cause of some other
breakage
Mama Cass wrote:
In netscape.public.mozilla.general the people heard Graham Leggett say
these wise words:
The Mozilla
community would be doing itself an enormous service by implementing some
simple quality assurance rules
This was discussed months ago - the general flavour of
Hall Stevenson wrote:
When you say 'people' I assume you mean geeks or nerds, right ?? They're
the only ones who care about being compliant with standards. Ask your
co-workers if they know what W3C standards or if they care what they
are. They want a browser that *works*. They won't
Hall Stevenson wrote:
What things are in the netscape branded browser (netscape
6) but arent available as part of the mozilla browser?
I took the question to mean what features are available, not
what is Netscape *shipping* or including in their package vs
the mozilla package.
*
Howard M. Stark wrote:
Gervase Markham wrote:
The spell-checking engine itself is from Lermont and Hauspie, and
is closed source. The UI is open source.
Gerv
Gerv,my friend,I believe that the firm is baunkraupt and that Messrs
Lermont and Hauspie are in the can for
Blake Ross wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED], huh?
Was it a lapse that JTK finally made public his email address? ;-)
Mama Cass Elliot wrote:
In netscape.public.mozilla.general the people heard RV say these wise
words:
I thought Mama Cass was dead dead.
Was the sandwich good? :)
She died of an heart attack, probably caused by her obesity - not of eating
a sandwich. The sandwich story is an urban
Mama Cass Elliot wrote:
In netscape.public.mozilla.general the people heard Pratik say these
wise words:
No. If Netscape said it wasn't alpha, it wasn't alpha.
And if I said the world was purple with green dots then the world is
purple with green dots! Yeah right!!!
Need
RSC wrote:
Hey every (any) one:
I am having serious problems with the new Netscape.
Every time I open the browser, it goes directly to my mail folder and
than freezes. I tried deleting and re-installing. I deleted ALL the
Netscape 6 folders and re-installed but it still freezes when i
JTK wrote:
Plus, who's going to do the prohibiting? I thought this project was
Open.
Then again, the sign still says netscape., doesn't it. I thought
there were plans to change that
In the US free speech is guarateed by the constitution, yet the same
constitution makes it a
Mama Cass Elliot wrote:
Why can't I have the choice to be able to easily remove the buttons that I
don't want?
How much easier could it get? Click on Edit Preferences Navigator
and uncheck the personal/icon toolbar options you don't want to show.
JTK wrote:
[Once again, followups set to a less-inappropriate group. Sheesh.]
Daniel Veditz wrote:
JTK wrote:
Wait a minute, let me get this straight: you call yourself Jesus,
Ever been to California or the Southwest? Jesus is a *very* common name.
Ask Mr. Jesus X if that's the
Mama Cass Elliot wrote:
In netscape.public.mozilla.general the people heard Pratik say these
wise words:
Nice review
http://browserwatch.internet.com/news/stories2001/news-20010823-1.html
The article claims that Netscape 6.1 is finished software. How on
earth can
Peter Lairo wrote:
OK, for all the pedantic, anal retentive people who would rather
obscure the issue and ridicule those who are trying to improve the
system:
PPPS. Insults are the arguments of those who have no arguments. (J.J.
Rousseau, schw.-frz. Phil., 1712-1778)
OMG, after all
Peter Lairo wrote:
Actually, my plan is to annihilate this commi free-for-all project, Ha
Ha H H (now imagine thunder and lightning accompanying
my sinister bellowing laughter). Well meaning fools, I will destroy
you in the end.
Sounds like JTK to me
Paul Bergsagel wrote:
My take on this is: most of the people surfing the web who are
concerned about standard complience have already dumped IE for another
browser with better standards and know how to find these browsers. The
average non techinical geek cares little about standards when
Hall Stevenson wrote:
00a601c120d0$9fdb2470$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">
And to add icing to the cake, CNet put anarticle where Netscape 6.1 was as fast orfaster than IE5.5 under Win2K.
The PC they used was also a Pentium 4, 1.5ghz. Is that thekind of PC I/we need to have in order to
RV wrote:
Netscape 6.1 Final was released this morning. You can find it at
ftp5.netscape.com/pub/netscape6/english/6.1.
The ftp site is up and available again for downloading Netscape 6.1
Released version
ftp5.netscape.com/pub/netscape6/english/6.1
-working applications is more important but Netscape need
a as many differentiatoras possible in order to grab people's atention).
Themes is ONE of them. A pastel colors version of Toy Factory will be great.
RV wrote:
Netscape 6.1 Final was released this morning. You can find it at
ftp5
That is a misconception too. Netscape is not based strictly on Moz 0.92.
As work progressed on Moz 0.93 many fixes that went to 0.93 were also
incorporated into the 0.92 branch that became Netscape 6.1. The code for
Netscape6.1 is going to be released soon as Moz 0.92.1 but they could
easily
Christopher Jahn wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">
And it came to pass that David Gerard wrote:
On Wed, 08 Aug 2001 12:36:42 -0400,Pratik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote::David Gerard wrote:: Netscape 6.1 is up on the ftp site again (though not: announced on the page). So what sort of time frame
Jay Garcia wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">
Some of what you say is somewhat correct and some is totally incorrect.Same for the statement by David Gerard in a previous thread on thesubject. Just what IS correct and NOT correct I can't say because ofbeing under Netscape NDA ... sigh
... easy
Jay Garcia wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">
Some of what you say is somewhat correct and some is totally incorrect.Same for the statement by David Gerard in a previous thread on thesubject. Just what IS correct and NOT correct I can't say because ofbeing under Netscape NDA ... sigh
Netscape 6.1 Final was released this morning. You can find it at
ftp5.netscape.com/pub/netscape6/english/6.1.
That is not what it reports when clicking on Help About Netscape =
NETSCAPE 6.1
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1
Beta versions reported as Netscape 6.1PR1 and I believe were based on Gecko
rv 0.91 build20010623
Christopher Jahn wrote
Chuck Simmons wrote:
Education is expensive, but so is ignorance.
If ignorance is bliss, why are there not more happy people?
My signature is from Shakespeare. He clearly saw your difficulty
understanding JTK 400 years ago. You are like Macbeth confronted by the
ghost of
Garth Wallace wrote:
RV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
JTK wrote:
Now if it was only able to send a high-energy surge back to the ad's
point of origin
Agreed .. and I wish it was possible to do the same to disrupting
trolls too
JTK wrote:
Now if it was only able to send a high-energy surge back to the ad's
point of origin
Agreed .. and I wish it was possible to do the same to disrupting
trolls too
JTK wrote:
I agree. Isn't that what happened to you and your great knowledge in
Economics (ehem .. Fixed and variable costs, remember?) You should ask
for a refund or maybe have your degree revoked
Yeah, um, what now? I should get my money back because you don't understand the
first thing
JTK wrote:
No can do Al, I'm one of the Body now! I got release requirements to hammer
out, with a little help from my friends.
Hey, I just got a GREAT idea! How about you tell the class what you think of
said release criteria! What say you, Mr. Vining?
Bwahahaha, you certainly have no
Shaq Kondo wrote:
Albert wrote:
Be sure to add -P profilename if you have multiple profiles.
Is there a profile manager in the works for use with the turbo switch?
- Shaq Kondo
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
When the next release of N6.1 happens (whether PR2 or actual 6.1) Click
on Edit
JTK wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], RV says...
JTK wrote:
No can do Al, I'm one of the Body now! I got release requirements to hammer
out, with a little help from my friends.
Hey, I just got a GREAT idea! How about you tell the class what you think of
said release criteria! What say
Hans-Peter Fischer wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jul 2001 16:22:29 -0400 RV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No, my name is not Ramón. ;-)
So let's call you Ramiro. ;-)
Don't waste the time. You will never guess it
Note that in Asian
societies people traditionally did not feel the same urge to show off
Hans-Peter Fischer wrote:
9j1o3i$lpdp1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">On Mon, 16 Jul 2001 22:46:12 -0400 RV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hans-Peter Fischer wrote:
RV wrote:
People have an urge to personalize things to ascert their individuality and uniqueness.
Ah, yes
Hans-Peter Fischer wrote:
RV wrote:
People have an urge to personalize things to ascert their
individuality and uniqueness.
Ah, yes, people define their personality via their Mozilla theme, of
course. And since their uniqueness changes every other day they of
course also need
Greg Miller wrote:
Ben Ruppel wrote:
I totally support this. Going to prefs to check out a new theme is a
pain. More specific to this bug, going to view and expecting to find
a theme option and not finding it in mailnews is rather annoying.
Menus are supposed to be for commonly-used
Follow the link for a very interesting article written by a well known
and respected editorialist/college professor .. as opposed to the know
nothing/little editorialist from C|net.
http://www.netby.net/Oest/Europa-Alle/vermeer/poison.html
of RAM,
DVD for $400) ... BTW I don't work for them
RV
*
Education is expensive but so is ignorance.
N6.1PR1 score 149
IE6beta score 36
:)
JTK wrote:
It's looking pretty polished folks, I suggest you take a look. The
world ain't standing still while Maozilla figues out how to draw
controls inside the lines.
Polished? Of course it is. IE 6 should have been called 5.6. Wasn't 6.0
supposed to be a significant rewrite of the html
Stuart Ballard wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">RV wrote:
... an one more time Microsoft is caught with its pants down with theirlatest FreeBSD (OPEN SOURCE) latest fiasco/embarrassment. I wonder abouthow many lines of GPLed code might illegally reside in MS products aswell.. A
JTK wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">RV wrote:
JTK wrote:
RV wrote:[snip]
They have equated Open Source as being insecure. I have severalpeopleapproach me already at the college where i teach and ask me why Iamusing an Open Source web browser. They are afraid someone caninsertco
JTK wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">jesus X wrote:
JTK wrote:
Huh? You mean where your "Favorites" are on the left side of thescreen? That's been in IE forever.
Yeah, but the Mozilla Sidebar is MUCH more than just a bookmarks pane.
No, it's little more, and not
JTK wrote:
RV wrote:
JTK wrote:
RV wrote:
[snip]
They have equated Open Source as being insecure. I have several
people
approach me already at the college where i teach and ask me why I
am
using an Open Source web browser. They are afraid someone can
insert
code (back door
JTK wrote:
*COUGH*somethingIsuggestedmonthsago*COUGH* in the main trunk.
I think you are over selling yourself but even if you are not, I am glad
they listened to you .. even after your constant ranting about Mozilla
people, AOL politburo, the communist conspiracy of a MAJOR capitalist
James wrote:
It's my understanding that Microsoft was ranting about GPLed open
source and it's unfriendly-to-business nature. IMHO they were not
putting down all open source projects...so, this has even LESS to
do with Mozilla.
Their story line changes every day. First they
JTK wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">RV wrote:
[snip]
They have equated Open Source as being insecure. I have several peopleapproach me already at the college where i teach and ask me why I amusing an Open Source web browser. They are afraid someone can insertcode (back door) that wil
mvOW6.11208$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">
So you mean I just sit down and type:Ok computer, I want a W3C complient web browser, and all the source for it, hit enter and then suddenly a couple hundred million lines of code pop up and I get a web browser? No, not quite. It takes a very, very long time
latest FreeBSD (OPEN SOURCE) latest fiasco/embarrassment. I wonder about
how many lines of GPLed code might illegally reside in MS products as
well.. After all their EULA makes it illegal to disassemble/decompile
their code and theu refuse to show their code to others. Their
credibility when
Stuart Ballard wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">RV wrote:
... an one more time Microsoft is caught with its pants down with theirlatest FreeBSD (OPEN SOURCE) latest fiasco/embarrassment. I wonder abouthow many lines of GPLed code might illegally reside in MS products aswell.. A
JTK wrote:
Jesus was a rabbi, what's your beef? You know what the word means,
don't you? I mean you've taken all those Hebrew classes in addition to
the econ classes, right?
I am
neither Jewish, nor a rabbi, and frankly, it's childish. The joke was old after
the first time you tried
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