Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Ogg: mostly hype and a _lot_ to be done

2000-06-24 Thread Monty
I tested to ogg encoder, and must say I'm somewhat disappointed. Hardly not to after all those "mp3 killer" messages at slashdot etc... I did a quick listening test, and if this is what lame sounded like last year, as Mark said, then it has come a _long_ way. It totally devastates:

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] ACM (2)

2000-06-24 Thread Gabriel Bouvigne
Note: Othe solution for the ACM bitrates is a "setup" program for the ACM codec and store the desired bitrates in the windows registry. To my mind, this would be a lot better, allowing users to choose encoding options (at least the major ones). This has already be done in the radium hacked

Sv: [MP3 ENCODER] ABR vs VBR

2000-06-24 Thread Peter Olufsen
I normaly use -h -k -b 192 -ms for encoding. If I change -b 192 to --abr 192 i get files with average about 180-182kbit (about 45% frames at 160 and 10% above 192). Is the reason for this bits that was wasted in CBR before ? If its not, which parameters should be used if you want files that

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Ogg: mostly hype and a _lot_ to be done

2000-06-24 Thread Wilfried Behne
I guess in a year or so when the severe bugs are out, one can only assess then how far the psycho-accoustics will carry this one and if it can reach up to the current standard of mp3 and alikes. I did some listening tests (used Sennheiser HD490 ear phones) with funk songs, ballads and hard

Re: Sv: [MP3 ENCODER] ABR vs VBR

2000-06-24 Thread Mark Taylor
I normaly use -h -k -b 192 -ms for encoding. If I change -b 192 to --abr 192 i get files with average about 180-182kbit (about 45% frames at 160 and 10% above 192). Is the reason for this bits that was wasted in CBR before ? Here's a simplified explination of what happens in CBR: most

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] ABR vs CBR

2000-06-24 Thread Leonardo Stern
ABR is more like CBR without to be constraint to fit into a fixed bitrate, so it is allowed to use frames of variable sizes, like VBR too. ABR is a hybrid of CBR and VBR. What options give better quality results : --abr 192 or -b 192 (for example) ? [or .. what is currently better : ABR