Re: [Mpls] Usury laws - tow charges

2003-11-23 Thread Anderson Turpin
David Brauer wrote: Again, all I seek is a reasonable limit on private towing fees; reasonable includes building in the cost of city rules. But c'mon - Cathy Leighton's $300 fee is shocking! As Jan said, I hope councilmembers are listening. At the very least, I would STRONGLY advocate that any

Re: [Mpls] Usury laws - tow charges

2003-11-23 Thread RYANA814
My son got a ticket near his school for parking "within 5 feet of an alley." He wasn't blocking the alley but was within 3 feet of it. He just got his license so I looked up parking regulations in his Minnesota drivers manual and there was nothing there regarding 5 feet. When we went down to the

Re: [Mpls] Usury laws - tow charges

2003-11-23 Thread David Wilson
Public works replaced a curb cut on Spruce Place and the way they put down the concrete, they cut 4-6 ft from what was there before. The ordinance is that you can't park 5 ft. from the radius of the curb cut. The city action effectively killed a parking space in a critical parking neighborhood.

RE: [Mpls] Usury laws - tow charges

2003-11-21 Thread David Brauer
Bill Cullen writes: So, if you want to open a competing tow truck operation, you must: find a large lot zoned correctly IN MPLS, own or operate it, and provide 24 hour, on-duty storage. Any idea how much that would cost? Any idea where there is a lot big enough to justify 24 hour a day

Re: [Mpls] Usury laws - tow charges

2003-11-21 Thread David Wilson
When I visited Montreal sometime the 1970's I parked my car in the wrong place during a snow storm. When I went to look for it the next day, it wasn't where I parked it. I got really anxious and started looking up and down the street. Some good soul stopped me, told me to calm down and to go

Re: [Mpls] Usury Laws - Tow Charges

2003-11-21 Thread Mark Snyder
I'm sorry everyone, Andy's absolutely right. One anecdote about one towing company acting in a manner that could be deemed predatory certainly proves that all towing companies working in the city are evil, underhanded thugs waging war on students and the working poor and that the city of

Re: [Mpls] Usury Laws - Tow Charges

2003-11-21 Thread Russell Sasaoka
Ok, I still don't understand what is wrong with this... From: Cathy Leighton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:42:19 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Mpls] Usury Laws - Tow Charges Just thought I'd add a very recent example. My oldest son (22 years old), didn't want to

RE: [Mpls] Usury laws - tow charges

2003-11-20 Thread David Brauer
Clarification: When I wrote, advocating city-imposed usury limits on private-lot towing charges: I know the city makes mucho dinero from this, but - having not been towed for awhile, I don't know how much this limit would cut into their haul. Still, a reasonable limit is the right thing to

RE: [Mpls] Usury laws - tow charges

2003-11-20 Thread David Brauer
Vicky writes: If your friend who was towed knew anything about city finance, he/she would be much angrier about subsidizing the rent for Saks 5th Avenue, Neiman Marcus, Target, etc. Those charges amount to a lot more than $200, year after year, but he/she doesn't know he/she is getting

Re: [Mpls] Usury laws - tow charges

2003-11-20 Thread David Wilson
David Brauer brings up the issue of car towing in the city of Minneapolis. I think that this can be looked at as an issue of livability. The city used to tow cars itself, but sometime in the 1980's started contracting out this function to private towing companies. Whenever you make someone's

Re: [Mpls] Usury laws - tow charges

2003-11-20 Thread Mark Snyder
I disagree with the city capping tow charges, at least not without a lot more information on the subject. Much like landlords, towing companies are easily stereotyped as the scourge of the city, yet they provide a valuable service. It's easy to say that $200 to get your car back is excessive, but

RE: [Mpls] Usury laws - tow charges

2003-11-20 Thread Jim Bernstein
Lets keep budget and spending and taxing decisions in the hands of the City Council where they belong. The Charter is intended as a form of governance document, not a refuge from making tough political choices. Unfortunately, amending the charter has been used in the past to circumvent the City

RE: [Mpls] Usury laws - tow charges

2003-11-20 Thread Garwood, Robin
I'm not sure about capping private towing companies. I do, however, know how I feel about towing done by the city: it's a regressive tax. Those of limited means tend not to have off-street parking, and are therefore towed at a higher rate. Like all regressive taxes (property, sales,

Re: [Mpls] Usury laws - tow charges

2003-11-20 Thread Thomas Searles
This has gotten somewhat far away from the original posting, but it is time to interject a few facts from the 2002 Mpls budget. http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/city-budget/2002adopted/Section3.pdf 2002 Fire and Police expenditures: $139.0 million 2002 Total expenditures: $1,244.8 million 2002

RE: [Mpls] Usury laws - tow charges

2003-11-20 Thread Dan Prozinski
I think David Brauer raises a very valid issue here. I just called a few towing companies and here's what I found. If Cedar Towing tows your car from a private lot for lack of payment the fee they gave me over the phone is $225.00 I called three other companies and said my car had broken down

Re: [Mpls] Usury laws - tow charges

2003-11-20 Thread Andy Driscoll
The City gets a major rake-off. Parking permits and towing deals are among the most corrupt arrangements any city makes with what are essentially the scum of private enterprise - lot owners and towing companies. Parking in Minneapolis goes beyond the pale, however. The city long ago decided that

Re: [Mpls] Usury laws - tow charges

2003-11-20 Thread Mark Snyder
The difference is that Cedar Towing is going to have to store the vehicle until the owner discovers it's missing and shows up to bail it out. So Cedar Towing has additional expenses for insurance, security, probably property taxes, etc. that none of the other towing companies have because

Re: [Mpls] Usury Laws - Tow Charges

2003-11-20 Thread Andy Driscoll
I rest my case, Mr. Snyder. Ms. Leighton, it's all over Minneapolis, but the meat hooks are out for students at the U in spades. Tell you son he's not alone, for all the comfort that brings. Andy Driscoll Saint Paul From: Cathy Leighton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003

Re: [Mpls] Usury laws - tow charges

2003-11-20 Thread Steve Nelson
Mark Snyder wrote The difference is that Cedar Towing is going to have to store the vehicle until the owner discovers it's missing and shows up to bail it out. So Cedar Towing has additional expenses for insurance, security, probably property taxes, etc. that none of the other towing