Re: [Mpls] Doug Grow: Activist or act. Spike Moss is a conundrum

2002-08-31 Thread j c harmon
Hey, what ever happened to Shariff Willis/Gangs for Peace and all that stuff? SSB and him organized some sort of 'get out of gangs free' organization in the say, early 90s. Anyone know? How about a group called MAD DADS - Men Against Destruction -Defending Against Drugs and Social disorder?

Re: [Mpls] rascism

2002-08-31 Thread j c harmon
I have a friend whose husband is African American who was refused to be served breakfast(although they said they'd still serve HER) in Brainerd in 1982. Irony is he lives in Brainerd now; they're divorced. I often wonder how he can stand it. JHarmon Cleveland From: WizardMarks [EMAIL

Re: [Mpls] Baseball

2002-08-31 Thread j c harmon
I'm just wondering how much in union dues these guys pay per month, and the monetary value of their sunshine fund. Jill Harmon Cleveland, not Ohio From: Dean Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mpls] Baseball Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 16:42:36 -0500 Jeez Loueez, the ink

Re: [Mpls] Re: Council Member Johnson stalled progress on mediation

2002-08-31 Thread Dean Zimmermann
The Mpls City Council has 13 members. 7 constitute a quorum. Dean Zimmermann - Original Message - From: phaedrus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tim Bonham [EMAIL PROTECTED]; mpls-issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [Mpls] Re: Council Member Johnson

Re: [Mpls] Fwd: park board questions

2002-08-31 Thread Dean Zimmermann
A few points about the Park Board purchase of the new headquarters building. 1) The real estate agent is a former Park Board Commissioner, whom I have met but have forgotten his name. This real estate agent would make a commission on this property no matter whom he sold it to. There was no

Re: [Mpls] rascism

2002-08-31 Thread Susan Maricle
--- j c harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a friend whose husband is African American who was refused to be served breakfast(although they said they'd still serve HER) in Brainerd in 1982. Irony is he lives in Brainerd now; they're divorced. I often wonder how he can stand it.

[Mpls] Melee, Riot, Rampage

2002-08-31 Thread Jim Mork
Steve Brandt wrote: It's been interesting to watch the debate over newspaper language in conneciton with the melee vs. riot issue. A group of reporters and editors today spent some time talking over what we've learned from last Thursday night's events. There's been lots of informal discusison

[Mpls] Stadium

2002-08-31 Thread Jim Mork
Dean Carlson wrote: I know most on this list don't want to accept it but a majority of the public want a new stadium and are willing to have some (small) amount of public assistance included to do it. Let's just get it done. Um, I seem to remember a vote in which Minneapolis voters voted

[Mpls] Random acts of north Mpls. kindness

2002-08-31 Thread Susan Maricle
In the aftermath of incidents like the rampage, things can seem pretty hopeless. People wonder, What can I do? I may be wearing rose-colored glasses, but I wonder what would happen if everyone regularly performed one random act of kindness. Several years ago a car crashed through a picture

Re: [Mpls] Baseball

2002-08-31 Thread Becker
Bob Velez wrote: Note to citizens: We can expect at least 4 more years of our elected officials coming back each year with some new stadium deal. The solution: THROW OUT THE INCUMBENTS! The problem is that the citizens did this. Minneapolis has a mayor who clearly campaigned on a platform

[Mpls] WWSSBD?

2002-08-31 Thread Susan Maricle
I've been asking this question--What Would Sharon Sayles Belton Do--how would she have handled the rampage aftermath? She wasn't a visible mayor, but would she have handled it more effectively? Less? The same? R.T. Rybak is a consummate facilitator. Will that help? How has he done so far? Did he

[Mpls] Opportunity to meet the school board candidates

2002-08-31 Thread Michelle Mensing
There has been alot of great discussion about the School Board candidates over the last few days. I want to remind people about an upcoming opportunity to meet the the candidates who have been the object of our discussion. Southwest Citizens for Civic Engagement, in partnership with Southwest

Re: [Mpls] Stadium responses

2002-08-31 Thread Dean Carlson
Jim Mork writes: Um, I seem to remember a vote in which Minneapolis voters voted 70-30 to require a REFERENDUM anytime more than $10 million of city money is pledged to anything. That was directly aimed at the stadium issue. So the majority of MINNESOTANS may want a stadium, but I don't think

[Mpls] Commissions for Ex-Commissioners

2002-08-31 Thread Ray Marshall
Message: 10 From: Dean Zimmermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mpls] Fwd: park board questions Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 04:44:57 -0500 A few points about the Park Board purchase of the new headquarters building. 1) The real estate agent is a former

Re: [Mpls] Strib school board endorsements

2002-08-31 Thread Michael Atherton
List Manager wrote: Without much specific explanation, Strib selects Bacon, Erickson, Farmer, Johnson, McAdory, Moriarty, Rosenbloom and Sims. The paper does spend a paragraph on why they declined to endorse Doug Mann and Michael Atherton, writing, while they seemed sincerely

RE: [Mpls] Baseball

2002-08-31 Thread Walt Cygan
Dean Carlson wrote: Many on this list said no new stadium until baseball got its economics in order. Well they just did that. There is no way baseball's economic house is now in order. Let's see this deal for what it is: window dressing, a PR effort. It does almost nothing to ensure anything

Re: [Mpls] Park Police/City Police

2002-08-31 Thread myrtle a. vikla
I have thought about your post and this whole picture bothers me. I think it is way past time to call a meeting of your Crime and Safety group and invite Inspector Lucy, Captain Brad Johnson of the Park Police, your Sector Lt. and you Safe Team. Yes the documentation is a pain in the lower area

[Mpls] Racism in South AND the North

2002-08-31 Thread Emilyjo916
James Jacobsen wrote: I heard first hand that before the 1954 major civil rights activities, in Southern cities there was harmony between the whites and blacks, a lot of blacks had domestic work jobs with the whites, the blacks and whites circulated amongst each other and all went well, no crime

[Mpls] Candidate Debates

2002-08-31 Thread RANDERSON67
There are ample opportunities for the major race candidates to air their opinions and views in a public forum to assist the voters choice. However, candidates for the State senate and legislature, those who will make laws to govern, are seldom afforded that chance. At most, the public is treated

Re: [Mpls] Doug Grow: Activist or act. Spike Moss is a conundrum

2002-08-31 Thread JIM GRAHAM
In answer to your question: Shariff Willis continued his gang activities until he threatened the life of someone with a Mac Ten or some such weapon and was sent to Federal Prison. Other prominent Gang leaders of such as the Detroit Boys, Bogus Boys and prominent Gang families were pursued and

[Mpls] The Trouble With Schools

2002-08-31 Thread Michael Atherton
On Fri, 30 Aug 2002, Jim Mork wrote: It is disheartening to see a discussion that has gone on SO long with so little productive accomplishment. So many people claim teachers don't teach well, yet almost NEVER do I see the slightest hint of what this inefficiency is about. There are a

Re: [Mpls] Stadium responses

2002-08-31 Thread Barbara L. Nelson
I want to endorse everything Dean Carlson says in his post, with one addition. I would put a sunset on the 11-county sales tax. Barbara Nelson Burnsville Once and future Minneapolitan ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn

Re: [Mpls] City Reorganization (aka McKinsey)- long one

2002-08-31 Thread Barbara L. Nelson
Fianally got a chance to read your post. Good job -- comprehensive too. Just one thing, Mike. Having been involved in a change effort inside a 5,000 employee government agency (actually, leading it, along with the top bureaucratic management as well as the politically appointed head of the

[Mpls] Forced Bussing

2002-08-31 Thread Socialist2001
In a message dated 8/30/2002 7:26:46 PM Central Daylight Time, lynnell mickelsen writes: Lynnell sez: Darling, we've been there. Done that. It was called court-ordered busing and we did it for almost 20 years in Minneapolis and around the country. It was a noble effort in theory

[Mpls] Character assassination (was: Minneapolis schools/response to Mike Atherton)

2002-08-31 Thread KTrain9003
In a message dated 8/30/02 7:27:26 PM Central Daylight Time, Lynnell Mickelson wrote: snip Now the classic response of Public School Bashers--on the Right and Left--is to simply shrug and say well, the schools just have to try harder. The school is still responsible. The school needs to work

Re: [Mpls] Fwd: park board questions

2002-08-31 Thread KarenCollier
In a message dated 8/31/02 4:47:54 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The real estate agent is a former Park Board Commissioner, whom I have met but have forgotten his name I think the name is Malkerson. Karen Collier Linden Hills

[Mpls] Fwd: N. Side shooting, melee/riot

2002-08-31 Thread Williwam Cooley
Note: forwarded message attached.Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes---BeginMessage--- Note: forwarded message attached.Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes---BeginMessage--- I was on the scene at 26th and James Thursday night August 22 from 11 til

[Mpls] Re:MADDADS

2002-08-31 Thread Barbara Lickness
MADDADS is indeed alive and well in Minneapolis. Both on the Northside and the Southside. They are grassroots men that know what street life is all about. V.J. Smith is their executive director. He is a formidable man and very serious about what he does. The dedication to his mission oozes out

[Mpls] Fwd: The Clown that said The Police drove up shooting.

2002-08-31 Thread Chadrell1
In a message dated 8/31/02 8:05:57 PM Central Daylight Time, Chadrell1 writes: Subj:The Clown that said The Police drove up shooting. Date:8/31/02 8:05:57 PM Central Daylight Time From:Chadrell1 To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mr. Cooley definitely watches much too much TV. As much as I hate News

RE: [Mpls] Fwd: The Clown that said The Police drove up shooting.

2002-08-31 Thread List Manager
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Re: [Mpls] Stadium

2002-08-31 Thread Eva Young
At 06:49 AM 08/31/2002 -0700, Jim Mork wrote: Dean Carlson wrote: I know most on this list don't want to accept it but a majority of the public want a new stadium and are willing to have some (small) amount of public assistance included to do it. Let's just get it done. Um, I seem to