On 11/19/2013 09:20 PM, Sieghard wrote:
Yep. The highest order bit in a number in the 2's complement encoding
is the sign bit.
Ok, let's look at it this way. Then, what's the value of this lone sign bit?
This is obvious.
Take a look at the predecessor of zero as done by the algorithm any
On 11/19/2013 09:31 PM, Sieghard wrote:
C doesn't really _have_ enumerated _types_.
the compiler seems to think differently as he happily compiles:
typedef enum claimUsage_e { LTE_CLAIM_SEM_MGT,
LTE_CLAIM_SEM_BASE,
LTE_VT_MGT,
LTE_VT_BASE } LTE_claimUsage_e;
-Michael
On 11/20/2013 12:56 AM, Sieghard wrote:
_No_ language can make certain that a preprocessor cannot be used.
It can make use of the preprocessor syntax itself (e.g. requiring a # at
the start of a line for some purpose)
_No_ language should depend on the use of a preprocessor.
Right.
You got
On 11/19/2013 02:52 PM, Martin Schreiber wrote:
It is planned to unify record, object and class in a single concept.
Nice and consequently thought out !
-Michael
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On 11/19/2013 03:53 PM, Martin Schreiber wrote:
case can. Having elseif looking like case is evil.
I think the contrary:
as well with case as with an elseif (or with pure fpc syntax: end
else if ... then begin) cascade only one of the multiple alternatives
is taken (other then with
if test1
On 11/19/2013 06:38 PM, Ivanko B wrote:
case can.
But case: only accepts (compile time) contants in its labels so its
usage is restricted.
An improved language could do away with this rather silly restriction
-Michael
On 11/20/2013 01:23 AM, Sieghard wrote:
They've been just resently removed from Delphi. They were called
objects,
Objects are not constant but more like static classes. And in fact
they have not been removed but replaced by enhancing the record
concept to allow for what objects were. Happily
silly restriction
==
Possibly taken to aviod crossing ranges in run-time (not revealed at
compile time).
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Hi,
'()' for procedure header and procedure calling is mandatory.
procedure noparams();
begin
end;
procedure test();
begin
noparams();
end;
Parameter separator is ','.
procedure params(a: int32, b: int32);
begin
end;
procedure test();
begin
params(123,456);
end;
There will be no extra
The result auto-variable will also be available ?
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On Wednesday 20 November 2013 17:02:14 Ivanko B wrote:
The result auto-variable will also be available ?
No.
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Why ?! It's one of best advantages of ObjPascal allowing not to bother
about allocating/freeing memory for non-atomic function result types.
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On Wednesday 20 November 2013 17:53:17 Ivanko B wrote:
Why ?! It's one of best advantages of ObjPascal allowing not to bother
about allocating/freeing memory for non-atomic function result types.
Please explain, I don't understand.
Delphi 'result' is not well defined, especially with reference
Returning NEW strings, dynarrays etc refcounted (automatically
destroyable) types from function.
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On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 10:12 PM, Sieghard s_c_...@arcor.de wrote:
Hallo Marcos,
Du schriebst am Tue, 19 Nov 2013 00:25:26 -0200:
There's no new ALIAS compiler parameter neccessary.
I know there is no new ALIAS parameter... So I'm proposing one.
Read completely - there is no ALIAS
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Martin Schreiber mse00...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
'()' for procedure header and procedure calling is mandatory.
procedure noparams();
begin
end;
procedure test();
begin
noparams();
end;
No, no, no...please! :(
I know that you want to make a language
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Martin Schreiber mse00...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
'()' for procedure header and procedure calling is mandatory.
procedure noparams();
begin
end;
procedure test();
begin
noparams();
end;
No, no, no...please! :(
I know that you want to make a language
Hallo Michael,
Du schriebst am Wed, 20 Nov 2013 11:29:01 +0100:
On 11/19/2013 09:31 PM, Sieghard wrote:
C doesn't really _have_ enumerated _types_.
the compiler seems to think differently as he happily compiles:
typedef enum claimUsage_e { LTE_CLAIM_SEM_MGT,
LTE_CLAIM_SEM_BASE,
Hallo Ivanko,
Du schriebst am Wed, 20 Nov 2013 10:08:51 +0500:
C doesn't really _have_ enumerated _types_
=
? It has the enum type directly. Don't mix it with #DEFINEd constants.
enum defines a sequence of symbolic constants, something C doesn't
support natively like Pascal
Hallo Michael,
Du schriebst am Wed, 20 Nov 2013 11:22:41 +0100:
Ok, let's look at it this way. Then, what's the value of this lone sign
bit?
This is obvious.
Then give the value.
Take a look at the predecessor of zero as done by the algorithm any
(modern) ALU does
That's simply the
Hallo Ivanko,
Du schriebst am Wed, 20 Nov 2013 10:06:20 +0500:
hash code collisions
SHA256 too ?
Any code that uses fewer bits than the encoded item. Try prove the
opposite, and when you succeed, write an article in some high ranking
mathematical journal.
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Hallo Michael,
Du schriebst am Wed, 20 Nov 2013 12:05:31 +0100:
Objects are not constant but more like static classes. And in fact
I never said that objects were constant. (They're not static either, as
that's an undefined notion with Pascal.)
All I said was that you could declare constants
Hallo Martin,
Du schriebst am Wed, 20 Nov 2013 16:01:49 +0100:
'()' for procedure header and procedure calling is mandatory.
...
There will be no extra reserved name for functions, functions are defined
...
Opinions?
Just a question: could you give some symbolic syntax representation?
E.g.
Hallo Michael,
Du schriebst am Wed, 20 Nov 2013 11:45:56 +0100:
_No_ language can make certain that a preprocessor cannot be used.
It can make use of the preprocessor syntax itself (e.g. requiring a # at
the start of a line for some purpose)
No, it _cannot_, because these syntactic
Hallo Michael,
Du schriebst am Wed, 20 Nov 2013 11:59:23 +0100:
On 11/19/2013 06:38 PM, Ivanko B wrote:
case can.
But case: only accepts (compile time) contants in its labels so its
usage is restricted.
An improved language could do away with this rather silly
On Wednesday 20 November 2013 23:01:52 Marcos Douglas wrote:
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Martin Schreiber mse00...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi,
'()' for procedure header and procedure calling is mandatory.
procedure noparams();
begin
end;
procedure test();
begin
noparams();
On Thursday 21 November 2013 00:55:05 Sieghard wrote:
Just a question: could you give some symbolic syntax representation?
E.g. Backus-Naur representation, railroad diagram or such?
This would make it easier to spot inconsistencies and collisions and such.
Later when it has been settled down.
On Wednesday 20 November 2013 19:38:22 Ivanko B wrote:
Returning NEW strings, dynarrays etc refcounted (automatically
destroyable) types from function.
As usual I still don't understand.
procedure strfunc(): msestring;
begin
return 'The string result';
end;
procedure test;
var
s1:
If you do not have parameters, why I need use this '()'
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So that visually not to mess them with variables, me guess :)
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Oberon uses 'procedure' too.
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Then better sub[routine] which means both function procedure :)
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On Thursday 21 November 2013 07:56:12 Ivanko B wrote:
Unneeded extra variables incl stack ones stuff lines, smth like :
procedure strfunc(): msestring;
begin
result:= 'The string result:'
if 1 2 then
result:= result + 'mumu';
else
result:= result +
probably is too exotic. ;-)
==
Some languages (BASH, TCL,..) return results of last assigmnent :)
'var' or 'out'
==
looks like var with automanaged memory.
It's also possible to call setlength(result, size) etc dynarray-ing.
PS: pesronally me use the result:=
It's also possible to define subroutines without keywords at all:
-
type
class1 = class
f1: integer;
proc1();
fucn1(arg1: integer): bool;
end;
ipmplementation
class1.proc1();
begin
[..]
end;
class1.fucn1(arg1: integer): bool;
begin
[..]
end;
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