[MSEide-MSEgui-talk] First steps with mse...

2014-12-02 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello. First of all = many thanks for that wonderful mse. Do you have plan to make mse compatible with fpc 2.7.1 ? The size of the executables (for example mseIDE) is very big. I have strip it but the size is still the same. Here, on Linux 64 bit, it is about 11 megas. Does it exist some way

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] First steps with mse...

2014-12-04 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello Martin and thanks for answer. What means split? A standalone source editor and a standalone form designer? Yes. A standalone form designer is more work. Ok, for first shot i will use MSEDesigner integrated in IDE. I have already something to show... Could you explain how to create

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] First steps with mse...

2014-12-04 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello Martin and thanks for answer. Already done for you at thusday. ;-) https://gitorious.org/mseuniverse/ideu/source/ = 404 Page not found ;-( Fred. -- Download BIRT iHub

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] First steps with mse...

2014-12-04 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello Martin. https://gitorious.org/mseuniverse/ideu/ Ok, perfect, it works... I am deep into mse and let me say that it is extremely impressive. Your have done a perfect work and i like your new ideas. About ideU, i have only good news. ;-) The integration of fpGUI designer is already done.

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] First steps with mse...

2014-12-05 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello Martin and thanks to answer and give your time. I will try to delete that dialog error message and change it into a hint in debugger panel. Hum, little detail..., in all the code-text editors i use, when i double-click on a word, the all word is selected. If i double-click a second

[MSEide-MSEgui-talk] ideU, the IDE Universal.

2014-12-05 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello everybody. I am happy to present ideU, the IDE Universal. This ide is based on MSEide and will deal with any languages and widget-sets. ideU will offer a easy configurable plug-in feature, to interface with external libraries or executables. This version pre-alpha can interface with MSE

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] ideU, the IDE Universal.

2014-12-06 Thread Fred van Stappen
What is the problem? Hello. 1) cd msegui_ideu = ok 2) sudo git init = ok 3) sudo git remote add origin https://gitorious.org/msuniverse/ideu = ok 4) sudo git add --all = ok 5) sudo git commit --all = ok 6) sudo git push --all --force = fatal: repository

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] ideU, the IDE Universal.

2014-12-06 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello Martin. The URL is https://gitorious.org/mseuniverse/ideu.git Ah, i will try with this one. It seems you changed the directory layout from the original mseide-msegui, Hum, i only add one directory = /ideu ... If it is not intended should I integrate your changes into ideu on

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] ideU, the IDE Universal.

2014-12-06 Thread Fred van Stappen
What is the problem? fred@fred-tosh ~/msegui_ideu $ git push --all --force Username for 'https://gitorious.org': fredvs Password for 'https://fre...@gitorious.org': Counting objects: 984, done. Delta compression using up to 4 threads. Compressing objects: 100% (973/973), done. Writing

[MSEide-MSEgui-talk] -dmse_with_showsourceitems ?

2014-12-06 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello Martin. I have compile mseide with -dmse_with_showsourceitems but i do not see any difference. How does it works, i try with Ctrl+Space but do not see anything... Thanks. Fre;D

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] -dmse_with_showsourceitems ?

2014-12-06 Thread Fred van Stappen
How does it works, i try with Ctrl+Space but do not see anything.. Ooops, ok, it works = super = why do you stop it ? Fred. -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] ideU, the IDE Universal.

2014-12-07 Thread Fred van Stappen
pushed something in GitHub. Many thanks. Fred. On Saturday 06 December 2014 23:13:30 Fred van Stappen wrote: What is the problem? fred@fred-tosh ~/msegui_ideu $ git push --all --force Username for 'https://gitorious.org': fredvs Password for 'https://fre...@gitorious.org': Counting

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] -dmse_with_showsourceitems ?

2014-12-07 Thread Fred van Stappen
Because people complained it is not good enough. It *is* not good enough. Martin Hum, i do not agree with that, it *is* much better than good and (if you agree) i will use it and develop it. Fre;D

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] ideU, the IDE Universal.

2014-12-07 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello Martin. Very, very sorry to borrow you one more time but = http://sourceforge.net/projects/mseuniverse/files/msegit/2.0/ = msegit_x86_64_linux_2_0a.tar.gz = The countdown is ok but nothing is saved in my pc. ;-( Fre;D

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Thread WaitForComplete ?

2014-12-08 Thread Fred van Stappen
I don't know. I always use tmsethread instead of TThread but I don't know if the problem is related. Hello Martin. Ok, i will try with tmsethread. Hum, is it the same syntax than TThread ? Thanks. Fred.

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Thread WaitForComplete ?

2014-12-08 Thread Fred van Stappen
It is comparable. Ok, i will try. Hum, what unit do i need for it ? Thanks. Fred -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Thread WaitForComplete ?

2014-12-08 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hum, what unit do i need for it ? OK, = http://msedoc.msegui.org/reference/msethread/index.html Hum, i am extremely curious about the behaviour of msethread. I have to confess that i have some doubt about TThread... And not only for this example... In Lazarus wiki, in library doc, they

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Thread WaitForComplete ?

2014-12-08 Thread Fred van Stappen
December 2014 16:59:55 Fred van Stappen wrote: Hum, what unit do i need for it ? OK, = http://msedoc.msegui.org/reference/msethread/index.html I suggest to check the class definition in msethread.pas. Hum, i am extremely curious about the behaviour of msethread. I have to confess that i have

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Thread WaitForComplete ?

2014-12-08 Thread Fred van Stappen
Because the program is running. Please use 'Target'-'Interrupt' in order to stop the program. Ha, ok ... = ? -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Thread WaitForComplete ?

2014-12-08 Thread Fred van Stappen
compile the library with debug info and -O- and Same result. -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Thread WaitForComplete ?

2014-12-08 Thread Fred van Stappen
I have commited to github (sorry for gitorious, not ready yet). https://github.com/fredvs/ideU The test of loading is in mainfo.create. I assume in the thread runs a full fpGUI program? That probably will not work because it most likely will use the same signals as the main application.

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Thread WaitForComplete ?

2014-12-08 Thread Fred van Stappen
I have commited to github (sorry for gitorious, not ready yet). https://github.com/fredvs/ideU = Run ideu.prj = compile it = run it. Library only for linux64 (at the moment, of course) Fred.

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Thread WaitForComplete ?

2014-12-08 Thread Fred van Stappen
Committed designer_ext with fpguidxt.pas = the library = if you need to compile it. https://github.com/fredvs/uidesigner_ext There is also = testlib.pas = console app = testfpguilib.pas = graphical app. Fred

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Thread WaitForComplete ?

2014-12-08 Thread Fred van Stappen
Have you tried creating another example where you use TThread.WaitFor()? Just to compare and see if both examples show the same issue. Regards, - Graeme - OK, thanks Graeme, i will test it. PS: I have committed binaries libraries in ideu/src/plugin for Win32/64, Linux32/64 for testing.

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Thread WaitForComplete ?

2014-12-09 Thread Fred van Stappen
Re-hello Martin. Have you downloaded-tested the (not working) version of ideU ? If yes, i want to delete that version and gives a working one. The pluginmanager will use, at first time, only programs and classical no-result-graphic libraries. But, of course, if we find a way to do work

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Thread WaitForComplete ?

2014-12-09 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello Martin and thanks to help. Change plugmanager.pas:66 fpgplug := TPlugin.Create(false) ; and remove ideU.pas:90 fpgd_mainproc();. = Application load and directly stop with message Exited. Exitcode:217 = ;-( Hum, maybe using something else than thread, maybe a TProcess ? Or is it

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Thread WaitForComplete ?

2014-12-09 Thread Fred van Stappen
= Application load and directly stop with message Exited. Exitcode:217 = It works for me after the changes I mentioned. There probably is another problem. Ooop, lucky you are -) With what os are you testing ? Here on Linux Mint 64 bit it crash. Hum, maybe using something else than thread,

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Thread WaitForComplete ?

2014-12-09 Thread Fred van Stappen
you need to push the changes. Of course, it is what i will say ;-) (i am not a good git-speaker). Fred. -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Thread WaitForComplete ?

2014-12-10 Thread Fred van Stappen
What is in 'View'-'Target Console'? Activate 'Project'-'Options'-'Debugger'-'Stop on Exception' and check 'View'-'Stack' when the program stops because of the exception. Hello Martin. Thanks to take care. Hum, yesterday i clean all what about graphical-library in ideu and concentrate on

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] First steps with mse...

2014-12-10 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello. Does it exist in MSEide a feature to show the end correspondent to the begin selected (and verse) ? Thanks. Fred. -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free

[MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Windows Compatible ?

2014-12-12 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello Martin. I have some trouble trying MSE in Windows. All the path shown in directory/filename edit are in Unix-style = /C:/blabla/bla/ How to show all in Windows way (C:\blabla\bla) ? And how to change the icon of main application ? Thanks. Fred.

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Thread WaitForComplete ?

2014-12-12 Thread Fred van Stappen
Saying that, your generic timer version works perfectly under FreeBSD. I actually do the same for fpGUI's demo IDE. And you do not depend of the system ;-) -- Download BIRT

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Windows Compatible ?

2014-12-13 Thread Fred van Stappen
Thanks Martin for answers. Correct, MSEgui uses unified style on all platforms. All MSEgui filename properties and parameters of type filenamety use this format, have a look to lib/common/kernel/msefileutils.pas. Filename edit copy/paste to/from clipboard automatically converts to/from

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Windows Compatible ?

2014-12-13 Thread Fred van Stappen
Windows_filename := tosysfilepath(filepath(trim(MSE_filename,fk_file,true)); It works but is it the good way ? Windows_filename:= tosysfilepath(MSE_filename); Ok, perfect ;-) Activate controller.options fdo_sysfilename (not recommended). Why not recommended ? Because

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Windows Compatible ?

2014-12-13 Thread Fred van Stappen
Activate controller.options fdo_sysfilename (not recommended). Hum, do you agree if i use it as option in ideU ? Fred. -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Windows Compatible ?

2014-12-13 Thread Fred van Stappen
That is up to you. :-) Super ;-) PS: MSE is really WoW... Terta thanks. Fre;D -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] First steps with mse...

2014-12-15 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello everybody. After one month deep inside MSE i have some notes... MSE is much than excellent. I have to do something to make it better known. I will do it. Lot of thanks Martin. Fred.

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] First steps with mse...

2014-12-17 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello Martin. What can i do to help MSE ? I can translate help in French, Portuguese, +- Dutch and Spanish. Fred. -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] First steps with mse...

2014-12-17 Thread Fred van Stappen
What will be most useful for users probably is to write documentation and demo applications. Ok, i will do doc + nice videos. ;-) I would wait until there is actually a request for these languages. Ok. I am ready. Thanks. Fred.

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] First steps with mse...

2014-12-17 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello Martin. I try to find the code where MSEIde save history of file open with mainfo.openfile and mainfo.openproject. I want to add a option = x Save history of open file-project in project file What i do now is to set as option = filedialog.controler.historycount := 0 but i would

[MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Compile on freeBSD problem

2014-12-17 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello. I try to compile MSEide in freeBSD and get that error message : mseguiintf.pas(27,14) Fatal: Can't find unit xlib used by mseguiintf Fatal: Compilation aborted What can i do ? Thanks. Fred.

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Compile on freeBSD problem

2014-12-17 Thread Fred van Stappen
mseguiintf.pas(27,14) Fatal: Can't find unit xlib used by mseguiintf Fatal: Compilation aborted OK, the guilty is fpc. My god, what a hell to install fpc (everywhere). Do you have a easy way to install it, with source on freebsd ? I have done sudo pkg install fpc, fpc is installed but not the

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] First steps with mse...

2014-12-18 Thread Fred van Stappen
MSEide tmainfo.opensource() calls result:= openfile.execute = mr_ok;. mainfo.openfile.statfile is set to projectstatfile, a tstatfile instance in mainfo. mainfo.projectstatfile. tfiledialog implements the istatfile interface: istatfile = interface(iobjectlink)[miid_istatfile]

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Compile on freeBSD problem

2014-12-18 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello Martin. Ok, one full night to install-reinstall-re-re-reinstall fpc on freeBSD (and re-re-install PC-BSD too). Now all the units needed to compile mseide are finded, it compiles ok but... when linking it takes ages and finally VirtualBox crashes... I know that it is not a mse problem but

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Compile on freeBSD problem

2014-12-18 Thread Fred van Stappen
FPC is easy to install on any platform. Simply use the installer supplied by the FPC team. Download the installer and source archive from SourceForge. Very simple (on ALL platforms) and should take around 2 minutes. Yep, i find that site and it does the trick (in less than 2 minutes ;-) ) =

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Compile on freeBSD problem

2014-12-18 Thread Fred van Stappen
Suggestion: remove -CX -XX . Ho, nice one, i will try it, many thanks Martin. Fred. -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Compile on freeBSD problem

2014-12-18 Thread Fred van Stappen
Suggestion: remove -CX -XX . Excellent = it works directly and fast ;-) Many thanks. -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] First steps with mse...

2014-12-18 Thread Fred van Stappen
main.pas: const versiontext = '3.7'; idecaption = 'MSEide'; statname = 'mseide'; [...] procedure tmainfo.mainonloaded(const sender: tobject); var wstr1: msestring; begin try wstr1:= filepath(statdirname); if not finddir(wstr1) then begin createdir(wstr1); end;

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] First steps with mse...

2014-12-18 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello Martin I did something simpler = assign mainfo.openfile.statfile = to mainstatfile (idem for openform and projectfiledia). That way history is still saved but no more in project stat but in main stat file. (And i discover your secret = .mseide directory was stored in main-form =

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] First steps with mse...

2014-12-19 Thread Fred van Stappen
I suggested to use https://gitorious.org/mseuniverse/ideu with the same directory layout as mseide-msegui and an original mseide branch for development, do you remember? Hello Martin. Give me some days (and nights) more and i will post the beta release of ideU. I must clean-up the code and

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] First steps with mse...

2014-12-19 Thread Fred van Stappen
If you worked with it from the start you could easier check the differences to the original and merge the changes I made in the meantime. Because you started from scratch your fork does not include the history of the original and because you changed the directory layout it is difficult to

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] First steps with mse...

2014-12-19 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello Martin. You will shout... ;-( I have try to commit to Gitorious but without luck. It ask me for some key that i do not have... ;-( I will try to find a wifi point this week-end where i can stay hours and will re-try to upload to Gitorious.. Anyway the beta release of ideU is uploaded in

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] First steps with mse...

2014-12-20 Thread Fred van Stappen
That must be fixed in your environment, a working and comfortable debugger is a requirement for professional work. Martin Hum, i do use the classical gdb debugger (like MSEide by default), do you have something better to propose...? Thanks. Fre;D

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] First steps with mse...

2014-12-20 Thread Fred van Stappen
For me the in MSEide integrated gdb is of big use, if it is not really useful for you then there is something wrong. ;-) Martin Hum, yes, i am very happy with gdb but i note that, for example in the Fi and Fu macros problem in Windows, gdb did not say that he did not recognize the macros.

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] First steps with mse...

2014-12-20 Thread Fred van Stappen
Where does it say that? I have a Lazarus lpi project = uidesigner_ext = that i translated into MSE project. When using in compiler option -fU${MYMACRO}/blabladirectory, compiling that project with linux, all is working perfect. With Windows, i get message blabla unit is missing'. Yes, i

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] First steps with mse...

2014-12-20 Thread Fred van Stappen
Have you set up your public SSH key in your Gitorious account? https://gitorious.org/~fredvs/ssh-keys You can use the same as you entered for Github at https://github.com/settings/ssh Hello Martin. I have created a key (like explained) Now, i get that message = fred@fred-tosh ~/msegui_ideu

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] First steps with mse...

2014-12-21 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello Martin. Thanks for your patience (much bigger than mine). I am cooler now. And loosed into all those Git infos... Now that i have key, password, account in Gitorious... What will be the console commands i have to use for pushing things in Gitorious ? Here the commands i use to push

[MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Unused units ?

2014-12-22 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello Martin I have noted that, when creating a new form, in uses section, there are a lot of units automatic added. But it can be that some of those units are not used. Have you a trick how to retrieve the unused units ? I know that it exists a fpc compiler parameter that can show the unused

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] First steps with mse...

2014-12-22 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello Martin Push your code to your Github repository, report when you did it. Some new modifs are pushed in https://github.com/fredvs/ideU Many, many thanks Martin. Fre;D

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Unused units ?

2014-12-22 Thread Fred van Stappen
So one probably should not remove them. Martin Ha,... ok... For infos, unused units in mseide.prj = msesystypes.pas(14,2) Hint: Unit msetypes not used in msesystypes msereal.pas(16,30) Hint: Unit msestrings not used in msereal msereal.pas(41,20) Hint: Unit sysconst not used in msereal

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] First steps with mse...

2015-01-03 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello Martin. ;-) Saturday, January 3 2015 fredvs pushed to mseuniverse/ideu:master 2015-01-03 12:35:51 UTC ;-) + ;-D Fre;D -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming!

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] First comparison MSElang - FPC ;-)

2015-01-31 Thread Fred van Stappen
From: mse00...@gmail.com To: mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2015 15:56:32 +0100 Subject: Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] First comparison MSElang - FPC ;-) On Saturday 31 January 2015 15:14:50 Fred van Stappen wrote: Hello. Is it possible to compile MSEide

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Serial Comm errors

2015-01-05 Thread Fred van Stappen
Same here, works fine. It seems to me the problem is because Bill uses fpc 2.7.x On Monday 05 January 2015 11:33:50 misu kun wrote: i can not reproduce , works fine -- Dive

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Serial Comm errors

2015-01-05 Thread Fred van Stappen
From: mse00...@gmail.com To: mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 13:10:30 +0100 Subject: Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Serial Comm errors On Monday 05 January 2015 13:00:19 Fred van Stappen wrote: Same here, works fine. It seems to me the problem is because Bill

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Serial Comm errors

2015-01-05 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello Bill. I am not the King of GitHub (yet). But if you need some directory, you may download it via = https://gitorious.org/mseuniverse/mseuniverse/ And click on the [Download] button on top-right side... Fre;D Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 15:00:25 -0500 From: captbill...@gmail.com To:

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Serial Comm errors

2015-01-05 Thread Fred van Stappen
How do you get MseGit to auto-login to push to a remote? Options git command maybe? What i do (and trust me (or ask it to Martin) it was absolutely NOT easy to me to do my first push to Gitorious). 1) Create a account + password to Gitorious. 2) Run MSEgit and in File menu = open your

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Serial Comm errors

2015-01-05 Thread Fred van Stappen
I just don't like having to enter a full login every time I do a small commit Hum, i do not think you need to enter a full login for each commit. It is needed only if you do a push (after all your commits)... From: fi...@hotmail.com To: mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Mon, 5

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] how to make mseide open fpc rtl units ?

2015-03-22 Thread Fred van Stappen
From: mse00...@gmail.com To: mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2015 13:36:00 +0100 Subject: Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] how to make mseide open fpc rtl units ? On Sunday 22 March 2015 13:20:39 misu kun wrote: thanks for the suggestions dir/**/ works perfectly :D

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Skin center

2015-03-06 Thread Fred van Stappen
Because of brain overloading. Too large complicated but optional piece of knowledge. Hello. Hum, I can understand that all that git-talibans who want to convert you = it scares you. It was the same for me ;-) My 10-cent-advice is to begin with the beginning. Go to https://github.com/ and

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] mse Assistive.

2015-06-04 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hum, with last release of msegui, when using it to compile old project, compile is ok but i get that message error while creating a form = Ooops, ok, fixed, sorry to disturb. :-) Otherwise, all is well assistived in ideU. The only bemol... the buttons inside gdbtoolbar are not

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] mse Assistive.

2015-06-04 Thread Fred van Stappen
https://gitlab.com/mseuniverse/mseuniverse/tree/master/attic/msedocumenting/mse/trunk/help/tutorials/widgets/grids https://gitlab.com/mseuniverse/mseuniverse/tree/master/attic/msedocumenting/mse/trunk/help/tutorials/widgets/treeview

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] mse Assistive.

2015-06-04 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hum, could it be possible to implement OnChange = this for checkboxes, radiobutton ans sliders. Done: Done in sak too ;-) = https://sites.google.com/site/designerext/mse_sak.zip I will attack TGrid... Do yo have a demo of TGrid or how to use it in mse ? Thanks. Fred.

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] mse Assistive.

2015-06-05 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello Martin. I am on the way with grids = till now, no problems. But i have same problem with components palette as debugger palette = button does not respond (nor to mousemove nor onclick nor onenter). Also in palettes, the buttons are not focsable with keyboard (tab key not work). Is it

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] mse Assistive.

2015-06-08 Thread Fred van Stappen
What do you mean by /sakit/? Have you try last release? Aargh, i have to adapt your code to use /sakit/ to test your demo. (i want to keep my system virgin from portaudio and espeak = so i do not want to install it in system). I will do it and test it asap. Fred;D

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] mse Assistive.

2015-06-08 Thread Fred van Stappen
I use espeak and libportaudio from OpenSUSE 13.1 distribution. What do you mean by /sakit/? Ha, ok, understood, you do use espeak and portaudio already installed in your system. /sakit/ is part of sak-project. = to use a assistived application without to oblige people to install on their

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] SubForm

2015-06-08 Thread Fred van Stappen
BTW, sak_mse.pas is GPL, I suggest to use LGPL with static linking exception as MSEgui, FCL and LCL. Done, but please read the /sak/readme_license.txt Fre;D --

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] mse Assistive.

2015-06-08 Thread Fred van Stappen
You use a setting: thetimer.interval := 800 ; This are 800 micro seconds. I thought it was a mistake and changed it to 80 micro seconds. Maybe this makes the difference? Aaaargh, you are really strong. And it was not random. If set it to upper for timeronMouseMove, it does not

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] mse Assistive.

2015-06-08 Thread Fred van Stappen
Oops, sent to wrong sender. BTW, sak_mse.pas is GPL, I suggest to use LGPL with static linking exception as MSEgui, FCL and LCL. Done, but please read the /sak/readme_license.txt. Fre;D

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] mse Assistive.

2015-06-07 Thread Fred van Stappen
I made some changes, there was a SIGSEGV in case of missing libraries. https://gitlab.com/mseuniverse/sak.git Perfect. Many thanks. BTW, twidgetgrid is also an important widget in MSEgui (tab 'Edit', place widgets in the grid area). Yep, of course there are lot of mse widgets to

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] mse Assistive.

2015-06-09 Thread Fred van Stappen
You probably use a version before implementing docellevent(). Hum, i downloaded last release in https://gitlab.com/mseuniverse/sak = sak-b740833680a6b963425eea24d662310577e65b7b.zip Fre;D

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] mse Assistive.

2015-06-09 Thread Fred van Stappen
That should not be necessary, I added the code to load the standard libraries after your /sakit/ checking. Oops, too late, i did it already. ;-) See in = https://github.com/fredvs/sak/tree/master/sak/sak_mse/examples/sak_mse_martin.pas Fixed also SAKSetVoice(gender; language) and missing

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] mse Assistive.

2015-06-05 Thread Fred van Stappen
No, ttoolbar is a single widget, the individual buttons can not be focused. Please use iassisiveclient in order get the necessary informations, I assume it must be extended. Please activate twidget.optionswidget.ow_tabfocus in order to enable tab focus functionality of a widget. Ha, ok.

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] mse Assistive.

2015-06-05 Thread Fred van Stappen
Mouse events are already reported by the menu widget to assistiveserver. Ha, because If clicked on menu (example menu of mseide) = if (Sender is tmainmenu) or (Sender is tmenu) or (Sender is tcustommenu) or (Sender is tpopupmenu) then Result := 'menu ' else if (Sender is

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] mse Assistive.

2015-06-06 Thread Fred van Stappen
In TToolbar, it would be good that button has tabfocus. That not only for assistive but also if only a keyboard is used (no mouse). ttoolbar is mouse only. Please use tmainmenuwidget in order to get a button array with captions and hotkeys. Another approach is tdockpanel in

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] mse Assistive.

2015-06-06 Thread Fred van Stappen
... git master has ... , the assistive monitor has been updated too. Yep, perfect = lot of work this we ;-) Write you later. Many thanks. Fred. --

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] mse Assistive.

2015-06-06 Thread Fred van Stappen
Ho, Martin, you did it. msegui is then the first. Many congratulation. = menu-items are assistivized, even for onMouseMouve. I do not know other widgetset who do it. WOW. Fred. --

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] mse Assistive.

2015-06-06 Thread Fred van Stappen
Added grid and menu assistive ! mse_sak bin+source demo lin64/win32/freebsd64 = https://sites.google.com/site/designerext/mse_sak.zip msegui is assistivized now ;-) Many thanks. Fre;D

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] mse Assistive.

2015-06-08 Thread Fred van Stappen
It seems that your espeakcancel() is not working good. It appends that multi-speakers are taking together... Are you sure? = https://sites.google.com/site/designerext/mse_sak_multispeech.mp4 = mse-gitlab vs = https://sites.google.com/site/designerext/mse_sak_monospeech.mp4 =

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] mse Assistive.

2015-06-08 Thread Fred van Stappen
It seems that your espeakcancel() is not working good. It appends that multi-speakers are taking together... Are you sure? = https://sites.google.com/site/designerext/mse_sak_multispeech.mp4 Have you installed espeak ? Because if not installed, the loading of espeak+libportaudio from

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] mse Assistive.

2015-06-10 Thread Fred van Stappen
Do you have a link where this is documented? I fear it is a security risk. Hum, i will ask it to fpc-mailing list ;-) Fre;D -- ___

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] mse Assistive.

2015-06-10 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hum, i will ask it to fpc-mailing list ;-) Huh, it seems that the mail was not accepted, maybe somebody else could try. Here the mail = _ loadlibrary() unsafe ? Hello. Here the thing: a open-source program, eSpeak

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] mse Assistive.

2015-06-09 Thread Fred van Stappen
if you want to run espeak out-of-the-box, you need eSpeak_exe + eSpeak_lib + PortAudio_lib. And you must dynamically load those libraries. You may try by yourself. Uninstall espeak and portaudio from your system. Now try to run your example... You may try then to use

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] mse Assistive.

2015-06-10 Thread Fred van Stappen
So you say calling loadlibrary() in one process in influences library loading in a child process. Yep, you get it ;-) And it is magic. First you loadlibrary(portaudio), = the library is loaded in memory. Then run eSpeak-exe. It will see first if portaudio is dynamically loaded. If not it

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] mse Assistive.

2015-06-10 Thread Fred van Stappen
The sakit binary package is provided by you? Yep. Let's talk about portaudio library. In Linux, when you install espeak (via apt-get install or whatever), it install also portaudio library. And this is the full options version of portaudio. In sakit/ the portaudio is compiled with only what

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] mse Assistive.

2015-06-10 Thread Fred van Stappen
Dont you like the current way ? No, please see the previous mail. Ok. Hum, could you give a secure way (with code) that could do run eSpeak_exe in a Linux/freeBSD system. Of course, in a system where nor espeak nor portaudio was already installed. Many thanks. Fre;D

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] mse Assistive.

2015-06-04 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello Martin Here binaries examples + source of mse working with sak (win32+linux64) = https://sites.google.com/site/designerext/mse_sak.zip It is on GitHub too = https://github.com/fredvs/sak All seems to work (many thanks for your assistivemonitor.prj demo). I am busy for grids. Hum,

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] mse Assistive.

2015-06-09 Thread Fred van Stappen
Done, git master 3209ac54047c69b509c72b65d4a3656141313d1a. I also simplified SAK loading. I think there are no libraries needed, tsak uses espeak only, espeak is another process which loads its libraries itself, libraries loaded by tsak are not visible in espeak. Yes, you are right for

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] mse Assistive.

2015-06-06 Thread Fred van Stappen
menu-items are assistivized, even for onMouseMouve. Added mse_sak bin+source demo lin64/win32 = https://sites.google.com/site/designerext/mse_sak.zip PS: Tested on both mseide-ideU = works out of the box = impressive for sub-menus ;-) FreD

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] How to merge changes with MSEgit

2015-06-22 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hum, could you change/add something in your code so the game is more funny? Gitlab mse branch has changes. In main.mfm it uses a blue arrow color for an activated menu item, in sak_mse.pas it uses MSEgui functions instead of baseunix and FCL. (git)!fetch --all Fetching origin From

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] How to merge changes with MSEgit

2015-06-23 Thread Fred van Stappen
'File'-'Clone git repo', 'Source URL' = https://gitlab.com/mseuniverse/sak.git 'Destination directory' = a new empty directory. 'OK'. = (git)!clone https://gitlab.com/mseuniverse/sak.git; /home/fred/sakmartin/ Cloning into '/home/fred/sakmartin'... remote: Counting objects: 2342, done.

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