Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-29 Thread Christoph Kukulies
Am 28.07.2010 17:04, schrieb Grant Edwards: On 2010-07-28, Christoph Kukuliesk...@kukulies.org wrote: Am 27.07.2010 23:57, schrieb Grant Edwards: On 2010-07-27, Christoph Kukuliesk...@kukulies.org wrote: Everyone know this when you get an email from someone and he is

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-29 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Christoph Kukulies k...@kukulies.org [07-29-10 03:36]: Oh, sorry. I thought in the first place (as some other reader as well ) your post was meant sarcastically. :) So it's probably not a good idea to use this Bcc:- technique? Then I'm probably left to the loop technique sending a single

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-28 Thread Christoph Kukulies
Am 27.07.2010 23:57, schrieb Grant Edwards: On 2010-07-27, Christoph Kukuliesk...@kukulies.org wrote: Everyone know this when you get an email from someone and he is disclosing his whole (Outlook) addressbook to the recipients. Often this is an interesting field for social research :) but

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-28 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2010-07-28, Christoph Kukulies k...@kukulies.org wrote: Am 27.07.2010 23:57, schrieb Grant Edwards: On 2010-07-27, Christoph Kukuliesk...@kukulies.org wrote: Everyone know this when you get an email from someone and he is disclosing his whole (Outlook) addressbook to the recipients.

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-27 Thread Brian Salter-Duke
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 09:36:44AM +0200, Christoph Kukulies wrote: Everyone know this when you get an email from someone and he is disclosing his whole (Outlook) addressbook to the recipients. Often this is an interesting field for social research :) but that left aside, I would like

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-27 Thread Christoph Kukulies
Am 27.07.2010 09:39, schrieb Brian Salter-Duke: On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 09:36:44AM +0200, Christoph Kukulies wrote: Everyone know this when you get an email from someone and he is disclosing his whole (Outlook) addressbook to the recipients. Often this is an interesting field for social

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-27 Thread Christian Ebert
* Christoph Kukulies on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 at 12:56:26 +0200 Am 27.07.2010 09:39, schrieb Brian Salter-Duke: On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 09:36:44AM +0200, Christoph Kukulies wrote: Instead of going through a for i in `cat users`do mutt ... $i done loop I could make an alias of these users, but

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-27 Thread Christoph Kukulies
Am 27.07.2010 13:19, schrieb Christian Ebert: * Christoph Kukulies on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 at 12:56:26 +0200 Am 27.07.2010 09:39, schrieb Brian Salter-Duke: On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 09:36:44AM +0200, Christoph Kukulies wrote: Instead of going through a for i in `cat

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-27 Thread Christian Ebert
* Christoph Kukulies on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 at 13:51:29 +0200 Am 27.07.2010 13:19, schrieb Christian Ebert: * Christoph Kukulies on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 at 12:56:26 +0200 Am 27.07.2010 09:39, schrieb Brian Salter-Duke: On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 09:36:44AM +0200, Christoph Kukulies wrote:

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-27 Thread Christoph Kukulies
Am 27.07.2010 13:58, schrieb Christian Ebert: * Christoph Kukulies on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 at 13:51:29 +0200 Am 27.07.2010 13:19, schrieb Christian Ebert: * Christoph Kukulies on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 at 12:56:26 +0200 Am 27.07.2010 09:39, schrieb Brian Salter-Duke:

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-27 Thread Christian Ebert
* Christoph Kukulies on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 at 16:14:05 +0200 Ah, I see. Well, the users file was retrieved by saving that persons email - good to know about that decode-save now - and hand editing it. I finally ran some vi commands over it and manually converted all the =FC and

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-27 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Brian Salter-Duke on Tuesday, 27 July 2010: On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 09:36:44AM +0200, Christoph Kukulies wrote: Everyone know this when you get an email from someone and he is disclosing his whole (Outlook) addressbook to the recipients. Often this is an interesting field for social

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-27 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com [07-27-10 11:08]: Make sure you have set write_bcc=no in your .muttrc, or the Bcc header will be included in the message. That *only* applies to your locally saved copy, not the outgoing message that others see. see the man page. -- Patrick

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-27 Thread Derek Martin
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 02:58:56PM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com [07-27-10 11:08]: Make sure you have set write_bcc=no in your .muttrc, or the Bcc header will be included in the message. That *only* applies to your locally saved copy, not

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-27 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Derek Martin inva...@pizzashack.org [07-27-10 16:31]: Ah, you must mean this bit, from the muttrc man page: write_bcc Type: boolean Default: yes Controls whether mutt writes out the “Bcc:” header when preparing messages to

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-27 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Derek Martin inva...@pizzashack.org [07-27-10 16:31]: Hmmm... Seems like you're wrong after all (Mutt 1.5.20hg (2009-08-27)). Mutt may well write out the Bcc line on the message that is sent out. The bcc addressed to me, I have rec'd and it does *not* contain a bcc header or any of the

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-27 Thread Tim Gray
On Jul 27, 2010 at 03:29 PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: Hmmm... Seems like you're wrong after all (Mutt 1.5.20hg (2009-08-27)). Mutt may well write out the Bcc line on the message that is sent out. It's probably dependent on the SMTP agent, no? I did a test earlier today using putmail as my

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-27 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Patrick Shanahan on Tuesday, 27 July 2010: * Derek Martin inva...@pizzashack.org [07-27-10 16:31]: Ah, you must mean this bit, from the muttrc man page: write_bcc Type: boolean Default: yes Controls whether mutt writes out

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-27 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com [07-27-10 16:51]: Quoth Patrick Shanahan on Tuesday, 27 July 2010: and I am bcc'ing this post to you, the op and me. Maybe sendmail strips it? I'm using ssmtp. I have: postfix-2.7.1-50.1.x86_64 -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana,

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2010-07-27, Christoph Kukulies k...@kukulies.org wrote: Everyone know this when you get an email from someone and he is disclosing his whole (Outlook) addressbook to the recipients. Often this is an interesting field for social research :) but that left aside, I would like avoid this in a

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-27 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 09:57:39PM +, Grant Edwards wrote: Instead of going through a for i in `cat users`do mutt ... $i done loop I could make an alias of these users, but how do I tell to hide the 100 users and only show up the one addressee plus a note that the email went to a

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-27 Thread Brian Salter-Duke
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 01:50:17PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: Quoth Patrick Shanahan on Tuesday, 27 July 2010: * Derek Martin inva...@pizzashack.org [07-27-10 16:31]: Ah, you must mean this bit, from the muttrc man page: write_bcc Type: boolean

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-27 Thread Derek Martin
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 01:50:17PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: I have: :set ?write_bcc write_bcc is set and I am bcc'ing this post to you, the op and me. Maybe sendmail strips it? I'm using ssmtp. It does. And I believe it's not a lone. But Exim does not by default, and

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-27 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Derek Martin inva...@pizzashack.org [07-27-10 18:43]: On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 01:50:17PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: It does. And I believe it's not a lone. But Exim does not by default, and ssmtp may not as well (but it probably should). Exim claims to have good reason for leaving them,

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-27 Thread Derek Martin
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 06:46:55PM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Derek Martin inva...@pizzashack.org [07-27-10 18:43]: On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 01:50:17PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: It does. And I believe it's not a lone. But Exim does not by default, and ssmtp may not as well (but it

Re: sending to a list of undisclosed recipients

2010-07-27 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Derek Martin inva...@pizzashack.org [07-27-10 18:56]: On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 06:46:55PM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: Then the *problem* is with exim rather than the *expected* actions of mutt's config? It's an arguable point. And it's a long-known problem.