Re: JunOS/FRR/Nokia et al BGP critical issue

2023-08-31 Thread Jeff Tantsura
FRR fix went into 9.0 and has been back ported to 8.5 and 8.4 , Cumulus 5.6 will include the fix. Cheers, Jeff > On Aug 30, 2023, at 5:32 AM, Mark Prosser wrote: > > Thanks for sharing this, Mike. I saw it on lobste.rs yesterday and figured > everyone would be ahead. > > I'm running VyOS in

Re: Best Linux (or BSD) hosted BGP?

2023-05-08 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Saying that IS-IS in FRR is broken is incorrect, that it is in many ways weird - no offense to folks who coded it :) (especially if you have worked with commercial code bases), that it doesn’t scale/naive, missing features - for sure. FRR runs today some of the biggest DCs in the world and

Re: Best Linux (or BSD) hosted BGP?

2023-05-08 Thread Jeff Tantsura
All fixed (thanks Donald) CVE-2022-40302 and CVE-2022-40318: https://github.com/FRRouting/frr/pull/12043 CVE-2022-43681: https://github.com/FRRouting/frr/pull/12247 Cheers, Jeff > On May 3, 2023, at 2:52 AM, Hank Nussbacher wrote: > > On 02/05/2023 17:56, Warren Kumari wrote: > > For those

Re: BGP Books

2023-04-28 Thread Jeff Tantsura
If you are looking for BGP in DC (either unicast and/or VPN) we (Jeff Doyle and I) have published a significant number of podcasts on “between 0x2 nerds”(from basic BGP to EVPN to BGP security to HW) - https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMYH1xDLIabuZCr1Yeoo39enogPA2yJB7Cheers,JeffOn Apr 27, 2023,

Re: BGP Engines with support to "RTFilter address-family"

2023-02-27 Thread Jeff Tantsura
FRR hasn’t implemented RFC4364 (nor planning to my knowledge (unless someone comes and codes it ;-)) I believe - Arccus has implemented it (Keyur to confirm). Cheers, Jeff > On Feb 26, 2023, at 22:58, Paul Rolland wrote: > > Hello, > >> On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 17:46:42 -0300 >> Douglas Fischer

Re: SDN Internet Router (sir)

2023-01-06 Thread Jeff Tantsura
You might want to search for “policy based add-path”, same idea (BGP listener + flow collector), different issue (60M+ entries BGP RIB), all clouds use some version of that, not sure about open sourcing it though Cheers,JeffOn Jan 6, 2023, at 17:00, Mike Hammett wrote:Right.Only I'm not the guy

Re: SDN Internet Router (sir)

2023-01-06 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Freertr folks have just published (I didn’t look into the details of their implementation though):“rare/freertr just got fib compression.. in our nren, the v4 table can be compressed from 900k to 260k, the v6 table from 160k to 52k... the tofino2 asic with our dataplane code (

Re: Experiences with commercial NOS vendors in white box space

2022-12-02 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Hey, BCM DNX ASICs don’t make a device a white-box, many commercial vendors programming it either completely or at least partially avoiding using BCM SDK, using DB’s in different ways, etc. Looking at a choice of modern NOSes, Arrcus is a high performance,YANG programmable vertically

Re: any dangers of filtering every /24 on full internet table to preserve FIB space ?

2022-10-10 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Link to Arista article about their Spotify deployment (2016), has all the relevant links, can be implemented on variety of vendors https://aristanetworks.force.com/AristaCommunity/s/article/spotifys-sdn-internet-routerCheers,JeffOn Oct 10, 2022, at 15:57, Ryan Rawdon wrote:On Oct 10, 2022, at

Re: any dangers of filtering every /24 on full internet table to preserve FIB space ?

2022-10-10 Thread Jeff Tantsura
There has been a number of efforts to implement FIB (actually BGP RIB) compression. There’s a white paper from MS research; I recall Spotify talking of running off-box BGP compression SW and re-injecting summarized BGP RIB; Volta Networks had an implementation of full BGP table compression to

Re: Router ID on IPv6-Only

2022-09-13 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Looking at the fix, Donald has only removed IPV4_CLASS_DE(a) uint32_t)(a)) & 0xe000) == 0xe000) validation but kept INADDR_ANY. I’ll bring up RFC6286 to him Cheers, Jeff > On Sep 12, 2022, at 13:41, Bjørn Mork wrote: > Jeff Tantsura writes: > >> Indeed, s

Re: Router ID on IPv6-Only

2022-09-12 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Indeed, someone was recently complaining that FRR is unhappy with a peer with router-id from class E range… Cheers, Jeff > On Sep 9, 2022, at 09:30, Saku Ytti wrote: > > On Fri, 9 Sept 2022 at 09:31, Crist Clark wrote: > >> As I said in the original email, I realize router IDs just need to

Re: Longest prepend( 255 times) as path found

2022-08-25 Thread Jeff Tantsura
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-grow-as-path-prepending Cheers, Jeff > On Aug 25, 2022, at 11:00, Tom Beecher wrote: > >  > >> Usually What shoud we do ? Should we filter it ? > > > As with many things, the answer depends on your situation. > > If I was running an edge

Re: 400G forwarding - how does it work?

2022-08-10 Thread Jeff Tantsura
, we have line rate pre-classifiers do proper drops based on WAN queue priority. Cheers, Jeff > On Aug 9, 2022, at 16:34, Jeff Tantsura wrote: > >  > Saku, > > I have forwarded your questions to Sharada. > > All, > > For this week – at 11:00am PST, Thu

RE: 400G forwarding - how does it work?

2022-08-09 Thread Jeff Tantsura
WAN ingress might not get access toingress buffer causing drop. Would it be practical in terms ofwattage/area to add some sort of preQoS towards the shallow ingressbuffer, so each WAN ingress has a fair guaranteed-rate to shallowbuffers? On Fri, 5 Aug 2022 at 02:18, Jeff Tantsura wrote:> >

Re: 400G forwarding - how does it work?

2022-08-04 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Broadcom DNX (Jericho/Qumran/Ramon) For both - the guests are main architects of the silicon Enjoy On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 5:06 PM Jeff Tantsura wrote: > > Hey, > > > > This is not an advertisement but an attempt to help folks to better > understand networking HW. > >

RE: 400G forwarding - how does it work?

2022-08-03 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Hey, This is not an advertisement but an attempt to help folks to better understand networking HW. Some of you might know (and love ) “between 0x2 nerds” podcast Jeff Doyle and I have been hosting for a couple of years. Following up the discussion we have decided to dedicate a number of upcoming

Re: 400G forwarding - how does it work?

2022-07-27 Thread Jeff Tantsura
FYI https://community.juniper.net/blogs/nicolas-fevrier/2022/07/27/voq-and-dnx-pipeline Cheers, Jeff > On Jul 25, 2022, at 15:59, Lincoln Dale wrote: > >  >> On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 11:58 AM James Bensley >> wrote: > >> On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 at 15:34, Lawrence Wobker wrote: >> > This is

Re: 400G forwarding - how does it work?

2022-07-26 Thread Jeff Tantsura
As Lincoln said - all of us directly working with BCM/other silicon vendors have signed numerous NDAs. However if you ask a well crafted question - there’s always a way to talk about it ;-) In general, if we look at the whole spectrum, on one side there’re massively parallelized “many core”

Re: Opinions on Arista for BGP?

2022-04-01 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Important note - Arista has 2 BGP implementations in the routing stack, old (NH/ribd) that has been there since day 1 and newly written (I believe mostly driven by EVPN development), when compared to other vendors - make sure to compare with the new (modern code, highly multithreaded, cache

Re: Regarding BGP offloading

2022-03-16 Thread Jeff Tantsura
IOS- XR and Junos (don’t know about others) expose service level APIs that allow offbox best path selection and consequently injecting these back into RIB. FRR is in process of implementing customized best path using lua scripts. Cheers, Jeff > On Mar 16, 2022, at 16:15, Anurag Bhatia wrote: >

Re: SRv6 Capable NOS and Devices

2022-01-16 Thread Jeff Tantsura
’ business doing ok. How’s life on your side? Would love to meet, lunch or so? Cheers, Jeff > On Jan 16, 2022, at 13:19, Jeff Tantsura wrote: > >  > Plane IP underlay works real well, I’m yet to see tangible proof of TE in DC > (outside of niche HPC/IB cases). > SR in DC - wit

Re: SRv6 Capable NOS and Devices

2022-01-16 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Plane IP underlay works real well, I’m yet to see tangible proof of TE in DC (outside of niche HPC/IB cases). SR in DC - with overlay starting on the host SR-MPLSoUDP(RFC8663) is a perfect representation of a working technology that works in IP environment as well as allows end2end programming

Re: SRv6 Capable NOS and Devices

2022-01-15 Thread Jeff Tantsura
+1 Mark There’s no modern silicon that doesn’t support MPLS (and is capable of imposing at least 3 labels). There’s 0 additional price for vendors to enable MPLS on their devices. The rest is subject to vendors’ licensing and is completely artificial. SR-MPLS uses MPLS data-plane and requires

Re: Incrementally deployable secure Internet routing: operator survey

2021-12-17 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Adrian, //Speaking as RTGWG co-chair As commutated to SCION proponents before, a detailed presentation at IETF RTGWG would be a good starting point. Please consider doing so at the upcoming IETF113. The best way is to subscribe to rtgwg mailing list and respond to chairs email request for

Re: Validating multi-path in production?

2021-11-12 Thread Jeff Tantsura
LAG - Micro BFD (RFC7130) provides per constituent livability. MLAG is much more complicated (there’s a proposal in IETF but not progressing), so LACP is pretty much the only option. ECMP could use old/good single hop BFD per pair. Practically - if you introduce enough flows with one of the hash

Re: Facebook post-mortems...

2021-10-05 Thread Jeff Tantsura
129.134.30.0/23, 129.134.30.0/24, 129.134.31.0/24. The specific routes covering all 4 nameservers (a-d) were withdrawn from all FB peering at approximately 15:40 UTC. Cheers, Jeff > On Oct 4, 2021, at 22:45, William Herrin wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 6:15 PM Michael Thomas wrote: >>

Re: "Tactical" /24 announcements

2021-08-14 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Every major vendor at some point in time has implemented RIB->FIB(really BGP->RIB->FIB) filtering, on Redback/Ericsson routers we did around 2013/2014(@Jakob Heitz;-)) Route compression is a more complex topic, it is not difficult to aggregate, it is to effectively disaggregate on changes. MS

Re: Trident3 vs Jericho2

2021-04-09 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Buffer size has nothing to do with feature richness. Assuming you are asking about DC - in a wide radix low oversubscription network shallow buffers do just fine, some applications (think map reduce/ML model training) have many to one traffic patterns and suffer from incast as the result, deep

Re: Career Opportunities In Network Engineering — Watch it on NANOG TV 

2020-11-21 Thread Jeff Tantsura
For DNS fundamentals - I’d definitely recommend DNS deep dive we have recorded at IETF108. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV0q9s94RL8 Cheers, Jeff On Nov 21, 2020, 8:49 AM -0800, NANOG News , wrote: > Career Opportunities In Network Engineering > “Be curious and passionate; this is a lifelong

Re: BGP Peers Data modeling schema

2020-11-05 Thread Jeff Tantsura
YANG is the right direction. OpenConfig BGP and policy models are supported by every vendor on the earth. We are finalizing IETF BGP and policy models draft-ietf-rtgwg-policy-model is about to be last-called draft-ietf-idr-bgp-model is pretty much ready Cheers, Jeff On Nov 5, 2020, 4:57 AM -0800,

Re: A study on community-triggered updates in BGP

2020-10-21 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Hi Thomas, We had a similar discussion on FRR slack, there are some duplicates indeed. Are you planing to test FRR at some point in time? Cheers, Jeff On Oct 21, 2020, 3:58 PM -0700, Jakob Heitz (jheitz) via NANOG , wrote: > Thomas, > > I confirmed your case and took a look at the code. > The

Re: SRm6 (was:SRv6)

2020-09-17 Thread Jeff Tantsura
MPLSoUDP is not the technology you should be looking at, SRoUDP (RFC8663) is. draft-bookham-rtgwg-nfix-arch describes an architecture that makes use of it to provide an end2end SR path. Cheers, Jeff On Sep 17, 2020, 9:32 AM -0700, James Bensley , wrote: > > > On 17 September 2020 11:05:24 CEST,

Re: SRv6

2020-09-15 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Randy, Was meant as the reply to Aaron’s comment about VPN’s over non MPLS underlay, not the encryption of it (which is orthogonal). Cheers, Jeff On Sep 15, 2020, 12:59 PM -0700, Randy Bush , wrote: > > GRE, VXLAN or any other tunneling encap of the day. > > As long as next-hop could be

Re: SRv6

2020-09-15 Thread Jeff Tantsura
GRE, VXLAN or any other tunneling encap of the day. As long as next-hop could be resolved behind remote end Regards, Jeff > On Sep 15, 2020, at 11:14, Randy Bush wrote: > >  >> >> I'm still learning, but, It does seem interesting that the IP layer >> (v6) can now support vpn's without mpls.

Re: sr - spring - what's the deal with 2 names

2020-09-10 Thread Jeff Tantsura
I have described what SR is, not what vendors (for variety of reasons) do with it, hence “could” ;-) As a side note - SRoUDP works seamlessly over either v4 or v6. Regards, Jeff > On Sep 10, 2020, at 12:35, Mark Tinka wrote: > >  > >> On 10/Sep/20 10:40, Jeff Tantsura

Re: sr - spring - what's the deal with 2 names

2020-09-10 Thread Jeff Tantsura
SR could be instantiated with 2 data planes, MPLS and IPv6 - SR-MPLS and SRv6 respectively. MPLS data plane could be instantiated over either IPv4 or IPv6 (similarly to LDP6), MPLSoUDP->SRoUDP allows transport of SR-MPLS over IP/UDP(RFC8663) and could be used to build innovative, end2end

Re: BGP Community - AS0 is de-facto "no-export-to" marker - Any ASN reserved to "export-only-to"?'

2020-09-09 Thread Jeff Tantsura via NANOG
beit concentrated around security) > > adam > > From: Jeff Tantsura > Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2020 9:52 AM > To: adamv0...@netconsultings.com > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: BGP Community - AS0 is de-facto "no-export-to" marker - Any ASN > r

Re: BGP Community - AS0 is de-facto "no-export-to" marker - Any ASN reserved to "export-only-to"?'

2020-09-09 Thread Jeff Tantsura via NANOG
Great excuse ;-) Regards, Jeff > On Sep 9, 2020, at 15:16, Mike Hammett via NANOG wrote: > >  > If history has taught us anything, everything we do will be ignored by those > that most need it. :-) > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com >

Re: BGP Community - AS0 is de-facto "no-export-to" marker - Any ASN reserved to "export-only-to"?'

2020-09-09 Thread Jeff Tantsura via NANOG
out IGP left and right when even today bunch of DCs can do > just fine with current IGPs scaling wise is IMO not a good thing. > > Thx > R. > >> On Wed, Sep 9, 2020, 10:55 Jeff Tantsura via NANOG wrote: >> I don’t think, anyone has proposed to use ‘’reserved ASNs” as a BCP,

Re: BGP Community - AS0 is de-facto "no-export-to" marker - Any ASN reserved to "export-only-to"?'

2020-09-09 Thread Jeff Tantsura via NANOG
I don’t think, anyone has proposed to use ‘’reserved ASNs” as a BCP, example of “ab”use of ASN0 is a de-facto artifact (unfortunate one). My goal would be to provide a viable source of information to someone who is setting up a new ISP and has a very little clue as where to start. Do’s and

Re: BGP Community - AS0 is de-facto "no-export-to" marker - Any ASN reserved to "export-only-to"?'

2020-09-09 Thread Jeff Tantsura via NANOG
De-facto standards are as good as people implementing them, however in order to enforce non ambiguous implementations, it has to be de-jure (e.g. a standard track RFC). While I’m sympathetic to the idea, I’m quite skeptical about its viability. A well written BCP would be much more valuable, and

Re: sr - spring - what's the deal with 2 names

2020-09-06 Thread Jeff Tantsura via NANOG
Aaron, Out of curiosity - if you are interested in SR, where are you getting your information from if not IETF (SPRING)? As for history - we (at Redback) have published 1st draft describing SR-MPLS data plane in 2003 (LDP control plane). Regards, Jeff > On Sep 6, 2020, at 09:53, Saku Ytti via

IETF RTGWG interim meeting - Existing problems for routing in the large Data Centers and potential solutions

2017-01-10 Thread Jeff Tantsura
/RTGWG chair hat on Dear NANOG, For those, who might be interested, on January 25 we (IETF Routing Area RTGWG) will be having an interim online meeting, dedicated to Existing problems for routing in the large Data Centers and potential solutions. Presenters will be describing (15

Re: Arista Routing Solutions

2016-04-23 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Saku, Jericho is in no sense a low end chip, while there are some scale limitations (what can be done with SuperFEC, some bridging related stuff), from functionality prospective it is a very capable silicon. One has to: Understand how to program it properly (recursiveness, ECMP’s, etc) Know

Re: New Switches with Broadcom StrataDNX

2016-04-18 Thread Jeff Tantsura
of silicon made by clueful folks… watch this space closely Jeff From: Colton Conor <colton.co...@gmail.com> Date: Monday, April 18, 2016 at 11:44 AM To: lincoln dale <l...@interlink.com.au> Cc: Jeff Tantsura <jeff.tants...@ericsson.com>, "nanog@nanog.org" <nan

Re: New Switches with Broadcom StrataDNX

2016-04-18 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Lincoln, Why wouldn’t they? What is it Arista did others didn’t? Cheers, Jeff From: lincoln dale <l...@interlink.com.au<mailto:l...@interlink.com.au>> Date: Monday, April 18, 2016 at 11:42 AM To: Colton Conor <colton.co...@gmail.com<mailto:colton.co...@gmail.com>> Cc: Je

Re: New Switches with Broadcom StrataDNX

2016-01-19 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Hi, Some points: 1.DNX SDK is significantly different from SGX, adopted by Cumulus and such, yet to be done, and this is not negligible amount of work 2.if you are not interested in capacity but in scale, there’re other BCM chips, perhaps more suitable 3.you don’t have to have all the

Re: VPLS Providers

2016-01-01 Thread Jeff Tantsura
In 2016 we will start seeing first massive EVPN deployments. If you really need L2 with multihoming and BGP FRR speeds in service recovery - look for EVPN, otherwise, as mentioned below - L3 is your friend. Regards, Jeff > On Jan 1, 2016, at 7:21 AM, Nick Hilliard wrote: > >

Re: route converge time

2015-11-28 Thread Jeff Tantsura
In that case multihop BFD (if supported on both sides) would really help. Regards, Jeff > On Nov 28, 2015, at 11:37 AM, Matthew Petach wrote: > > One thing I notice you don't mention is whether your > BGP sessions to your upstream providers are direct > or multi-hop

Re: EoMPLS vlan rewrite between brands; possibly new bug in Cisco IOS 15

2015-11-14 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Been forever since i looked at cisco, however sounds like vc type mismatch. They used to have it as a platform capability, perhaps SW upgrade changed the default. to my memory "show mpls l2 transport" should provide enough details. Hope this helps Regards, Jeff > On Nov 14, 2015, at 4:50 AM,

Re: EoMPLS vlan rewrite between brands; possibly new bug in Cisco IOS 15

2015-11-14 Thread Jeff Tantsura
s: receive 0, seq error 0, send 0 >pe# > >Anyone else: feel free to join in. Maybe we have any L2VC/PW ninjas watching. > >Best regards, >Jonas Bjork > > >> On 15 Nov 2015, at 1:26, Jeff Tantsura <jeff.tants...@ericsson.com> wrote: >> >> Been foreve

Re: Segment Routing for L2VPN?

2015-09-21 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Hi, In most well designed IP routing stacks the way to get to a labeled (tunneled) next hop is decoupled from a service, so if a service requires such next hop it is upto (usually RIB) to return one (best, multiple might exist) which would be used for forwarding. If it is a Segment Routed one so

Re: BGP advertise-best-external on RR

2015-08-25 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Hi, In your case I¹d recommend to use diverse path, due to its simplicity and non disruptive deployment characteristics. As you know - diverse path requires additional BGP session per additional (second, next, etc) path, in most cases not a problem, however mileage might vary. To my memory, in

Re: Yet Another BGP (Border Gateway Protocol) Python Implementation

2015-08-07 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Hi Peng, Good stuff! Any plans for multicast, RTC and EVPN AF's? Regards, Jeff On Aug 6, 2015, at 7:43 PM, Peng Xiao (penxiao) penx...@cisco.com wrote: Hi guys, Ipv6 and other address families are under development. We have already designed the data structures for them as you can see

Re: Low Cost 10G Router

2015-05-20 Thread Jeff Tantsura
ASR1K (XE) has great BGP implementation, go for it if you are OK with density/throughput. Regards, Jeff On May 19, 2015, at 11:35 PM, Mark Tees markt...@gmail.com wrote: For the lists benefit, there is a 6 X 10GBE option for the ASR1000 series it seems. No idea on pricing though.

Re: draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-ipv6-16

2015-02-20 Thread Jeff Tantsura
For L2VPN if you could make it work - go with EVPN day 1, it solves most of the issues present in both LDP and BGP VPLS implementations. Be aware of differences in PBB vs plain EVPN and platform support. EVPN, specifically multhoming/split horizon/some other stuff as well as presence of L3

Re: draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-ipv6-16

2015-02-20 Thread Jeff Tantsura
From market prospective v6 SR is definitely lower priority. Comcast and few more are looking into native rather than v6 with MPLS encap. Wrt v4 - 2 weeks ago at EANTC in Berlin we have tested 3 implementations of ISIS SR v4 MPLS with L3VPN and 6VPE over SR tunnels. Worked very well, very few

Re: Recommended L2 switches for a new IXP

2015-01-13 Thread Jeff Tantsura
AhhhŠ vertically integrated horizontal API¹s Cheers, Jeff -Original Message- From: Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 2:23 PM To: Jeff Tantsura jeff.tants...@ericsson.com, Eduardo Schoedler lis...@esds.com.br, nanog@nanog.org nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re

Re: Recommended L2 switches for a new IXP

2015-01-13 Thread Jeff Tantsura
at 2:28 PM To: nanog@nanog.org nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Recommended L2 switches for a new IXP My mistake, it's the OCX1100. http://www.networkworld.com/article/2855056/sdn/juniper-unbundles-switch-h ardware-software.html 2015-01-13 20:10 GMT-02:00 Jeff Tantsura jeff.tants...@ericsson.com

Re: Recommended L2 switches for a new IXP

2015-01-13 Thread Jeff Tantsura
What does it mean - to be SDN ready? Cheers, Jeff -Original Message- From: Eduardo Schoedler lis...@esds.com.br Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 3:25 AM To: nanog@nanog.org nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Recommended L2 switches for a new IXP QFX5100 is SDN ready. -- Eduardo

Re: MPLS VPN design - RR in forwarding path?

2015-01-02 Thread Jeff Tantsura
+100 Regards, Jeff On Jan 2, 2015, at 5:29 AM, Rob Shakir r...@rob.sh wrote: On 2 Jan 2015, at 01:54, Jeff Tantsura jeff.tants...@ericsson.com wrote: You don't need LDP on RR as long as clients support not on lsp flag (different implementation have different names

Re: MPLS VPN design - RR in forwarding path?

2015-01-01 Thread Jeff Tantsura
You don't need LDP on RR as long as clients support not on lsp flag (different implementation have different names for it) There are more and more reasons to run RR on a non router HW, there are many reasons to still run commercial code base, mostly feature set and resilience. Regards, Jeff

Re: MPLS VPN design - RR in forwarding path?

2014-12-31 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Hi, Right, one is when besides forwarding packets a router also functioning as a RR, another - when RR sets NH to itself and hence forces all the traffic to pass thru the router in fast path. Keep in mind - some architectures, such as seamless MPLS would require a RR to be in the fast path.

Re: Multicast Internet Route table.

2014-09-02 Thread Jeff Tantsura
It is not the network devices per se, it is additional configuration, security, MSDP peering, etc, i.e. OPEX Business justification for such effort is not obvious, (most of multicast deployments I have done in my previous life were because I loved the technology, not because of business needs :))

Re: Best practice for BGP session/ full routes for customer

2014-07-14 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Mark, BGP to RIB filtering (in any vendor implementation) is targeting RR which is not in the forwarding path, so there¹s no forwarding towards any destination filtered out from RIB. Using it selectively on a forwarding node is error prone and in case of incorrect configuration would result in

Re: OSPF Costs Formula that include delay.

2014-01-25 Thread Jeff Tantsura
A path to a destination must be loop free, irrespectively. So it is not a combination of multiple but rather a list of loop free paths to a destination where any other metrics are used as tie-breakers. Another story - how do you get all that state distributed, inter-area cases, how do you make

Re: L2TPv3 - and layer 2 PDU's

2014-01-24 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Yes, 10 years ago on 10720, CDP and LACP worked like a charm Regards, Jeff On Jan 24, 2014, at 7:55 AM, Philip Lavine source_ro...@yahoo.com wrote: To all, Has anyone successfully tunneled L2 PDU's (STP, CDP, LLDP) over a L2TPv3 pseudowire tunnel, i.e. should I be able to see CDP

Re: OSPF Costs Formula that include delay.

2014-01-24 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Eric, Issues: 1.OSPF (SPF) can only produce a SPT based on cost (metric). Anything else would require CSPF rather than SPF. 2. Delay is not distributed as part of an IGP update Typical constrains distributed are: bandwidth, color, some others In IETF we are working to also be able to

Re: Cisco announces it will no longer publishing The Internet Protocol Journal

2013-11-17 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Ole is not with Cisco anymore. Regards, Jeff On Nov 17, 2013, at 10:11, Courtney Smith courtneysm...@comcast.net wrote: Another one bites the dust. Received the below this AM. Hopefully, something similar finds it's way into an electronic format. TO OUR READERS At this time,

Re: OSPF Vulnerability - Owning the Routing Table

2013-08-04 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Agree, that't why using p2p has been mentioned as BCP in networking howto's for at least last 10 years. Regards, Jeff On Aug 4, 2013, at 3:14 AM, Saku Ytti s...@ytti.fi wrote: On (2013-08-04 05:01 -0500), Jimmy Hess wrote: I would say the risk score of the advisory is overstated. And if

Re: OSPF Vulnerability - Owning the Routing Table

2013-08-03 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Hi, As for Ericsson (Redback) products. We found the issue quite some time ago and fixed it immediately. Smart Edge code base (SEOS) has been fixed back to the release 6.3 SSR code base (IPOS) - not affected. Please let me know if you have got any questions. Regards, Jeff On Aug 3, 2013, at

Re: Level3 worldwide emergency upgrade?

2013-02-07 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Good times indeed... Regards, Jeff On Feb 7, 2013, at 2:09, Brett Watson br...@the-watsons.org wrote: Hell, we used to not have to bother notifying customers of anything, we just fixed the problem. Reminds me a of a story I've probably shared on the past. 1995, IETF in Dallas. The big

RE: MP-BGP next hop tracking delay 0

2012-10-23 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Hi Adam, Works just fine on any relatively modern router. Cheers, Jeff -Original Message- From: Adam Vitkovsky [mailto:adam.vitkov...@swan.sk] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 12:31 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: MP-BGP next hop tracking delay 0 I was wondering whether you have some

Re: Layer2 over Layer3

2012-09-12 Thread Jeff Tantsura
l2tpv3 Regards, Jeff On Sep 12, 2012, at 19:23, Philip Lavine source_ro...@yahoo.com wrote: To all, I am trying to extend a layer2 connection over Layer 3 so I can have redundant Layer connectivity between my HQ and colo site. The reason I need this is so I can give the appeareance

Re: need help about bgd and ospf

2012-05-18 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Nope, run iBGP, have only next-hops in OSPF. Regards, Jeff On May 18, 2012, at 19:14, Deric Kwok deric.kwok2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all Can I have questions about bgp and ospf 1/ Do I have to redistrt bgd in ospf to make ospf to know which upstrem bgp routers to go out 2/ If yes, how

Re: mulcast assignments

2012-05-04 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Hi, All modern routers support mapping from IGMPv2 to PIM SSM, all static, some others thru DNS, etc Regards, Jeff On May 3, 2012, at 12:34 PM, Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org wrote: On 03/05/2012 21:00, Greg Shepherd wrote: Sure, but GLOP predated SSM, and was really only an interim fix for

Re: mulcast assignments

2012-05-04 Thread Jeff Tantsura
, Jeff Tantsura jeff.tants...@ericsson.com wrote: Hi, All modern routers support mapping from IGMPv2 to PIM SSM, all static, some others thru DNS, etc I am not sure what you mean here. To support SSM, you need IGMPv3. Most routers do support IGMPv3, but there is still a fair amount of legacy

Re: is sbcglobal throttling Cuban traffic?

2012-03-24 Thread Jeff Tantsura
81.169.144 belongs to a German company based in Berlin :) Regards, Jeff On Mar 24, 2012, at 13:39, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: 81.169.145.156

Re: IPTV and ASM

2011-12-28 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Mike, To my knowledge in most today's networks even if legacy equipment don't support IGMPv3 most likely 1st hop router does static translation and SSM upstream. The reason not to migrate to SSM is usually - ASM is already there and works just fine :) Cost to support RP infrastructure is

RE: bgp update destroying transit on redback routers ?

2011-12-22 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Olivier, Thanks! We've done our best to provide the fix ASAP. Regards, Jeff -Original Message- From: Olivier Benghozi [mailto:olivier.bengh...@wifirst.fr] Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 5:20 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Cc: Alexandre Snarskii; Jeff Tantsura Subject: Re: bgp update

RE: Multiple ISP Load Balancing

2011-12-14 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Hi David, You might want to take a look at work happening in ALTO (http://tools.ietf.org/wg/alto/) Regards, Jeff -Original Message- From: Holmes,David A [mailto:dhol...@mwdh2o.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 11:07 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Multiple ISP Load Balancing

RE: draft-ietf-idr-as0-00 (bgp update destroying transit on redback routers ?)

2011-12-03 Thread Jeff Tantsura
, December 02, 2011 5:13 AM To: Jeff Tantsura; Warren Kumari Cc: nanog@nanog.org; i...@ietf.org Subject: draft-ietf-idr-as0-00 (bgp update destroying transit on redback routers ?) Hi, This is true that no-aggregator-id knob zeroes out the AGGREGATOR attribute. The knob, as far as I was able to find

RE: bgp update destroying transit on redback routers ?

2011-12-02 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Snarskii [mailto:s...@snar.spb.ru] Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 6:36 AM To: Jeff Tantsura Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: bgp update destroying transit on redback routers ? On Thu, Dec 01, 2011 at 04:56:43PM -0500, Jeff Tantsura wrote: Hi, Let me take it over from now on, I'm the IP Routing/MPLS

RE: bgp update destroying transit on redback routers ?

2011-12-01 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Hi, Let me take it over from now on, I'm the IP Routing/MPLS Product Manager at Ericsson responsible for all routing protocols. There's nothing wrong in checking ASN in AGGREGATOR, we don't really want see ASN 0 anywhere, that's how draft-wkumari-idr-as0 (draft-ietf-idr-as0-00) came into the

RE: bgp update destroying transit on redback routers ?

2011-12-01 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Thanks Warren! I have already brought this to the list. Regards, Jeff -Original Message- From: Warren Kumari [mailto:war...@kumari.net] Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 3:05 PM To: Christopher Morrow Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: bgp update destroying transit on redback routers ?