Re: Is there such a thing as a 10GBase-T SFP+ transciever

2014-01-31 Thread Eric Clark
What I want to see is reasonably priced 40G single mode transceivers. I have no idea why 40G and now 100G wasn't rolled out with single mode as the preference. The argument that there's a large multimode install base doesn't hold water. For one thing, you're using enormous amounts of MM fiber

Re: Updated ARIN allocation information

2014-01-31 Thread Owen DeLong
On Jan 30, 2014, at 3:58 PM, Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org wrote: In message 384bf687-ad8a-4919-9eab-723a09854...@puck.nether.net, Jared Mauch writes: On Jan 30, 2014, at 12:17 AM, Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org wrote: Or you could just accept that there needs to be more routing slots as

While on the subject of IRR and route objects

2014-01-31 Thread Alain Hebert
IRRToolset 5.0.1 (rtconfig really) finally gave out on a pretty messy RPSL parse. After a few hours of research, it seems that its dead since 2009 :(. There is some effort at http://irrtoolset.isc.org to reboot development, its pretty dead since 2012-07-31. Beside home made

Re: While on the subject of IRR and route objects

2014-01-31 Thread Job Snijders
On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 08:58:06AM -0500, Alain Hebert wrote: IRRToolset 5.0.1 (rtconfig really) finally gave out on a pretty messy RPSL parse. After a few hours of research, it seems that its dead since 2009 :(. There is some effort at http://irrtoolset.isc.org to reboot

Re: While on the subject of IRR and route objects

2014-01-31 Thread ML
+1 Easiest to use by far. Only thing I see as lacking for easy adoption is canned solution for managing the push to the routers. On 1/31/2014 9:04 AM, Job Snijders wrote: On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 08:58:06AM -0500, Alain Hebert wrote: IRRToolset 5.0.1 (rtconfig really) finally gave

Re: Fiber Bypass Switch

2014-01-31 Thread Jakob Borg
There's also for example http://www.silicom-usa.com/Intelligent_Bypass_Switches/IBS10G-Intelligent_10G_Bypass_Switch_33 //jb 2014-01-27 Keyser, Philip pkey...@fibertech.com: Does anyone have any recommendations for a fiber bypass switch? I am looking for something capable of 10G that when

Re: While on the subject of IRR and route objects

2014-01-31 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 31/01/2014 13:58, Alain Hebert wrote: IRRToolset 5.0.1 (rtconfig really) finally gave out on a pretty messy RPSL parse. of direct relevance to this: https://lists.isc.org/pipermail/irrtoolset/2011-April/000736.html tl;dr: rpsl itself is a mess = no point in fixing irrtoolset There is

Re: Updated ARIN allocation information

2014-01-31 Thread John Curran
On Jan 30, 2014, at 10:20 PM, Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org wrote: I figure there will be similar problem for other business in other countries and they will fight a similar battles. Eventually the regulators will step in because it is bad for small businesses to be shut out of the Internet.

Re: While on the subject of IRR and route objects

2014-01-31 Thread Alain Hebert
On 01/31/14 10:02, Nick Hilliard wrote: On 31/01/2014 13:58, Alain Hebert wrote: IRRToolset 5.0.1 (rtconfig really) finally gave out on a pretty messy RPSL parse. of direct relevance to this: https://lists.isc.org/pipermail/irrtoolset/2011-April/000736.html tl;dr: rpsl itself is a mess

Re: While on the subject of IRR and route objects

2014-01-31 Thread Job Snijders
On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 11:32:17AM -0500, Alain Hebert wrote: bgpq3 works great the as-set that was borking rtlookup generate a ~183k long prefix list =D. I recommend using it like this, to enable aggregation where possible: bgpq3 -A Kind regards, Job pgpjISSQ47YFj.pgp Description:

Re: While on the subject of IRR and route objects

2014-01-31 Thread Alain Hebert
Yes, its the first thing I tried. Iti's still ~82k =D The as-set included some of his peering as export too. We're both looking into it. - Alain Hebertaheb...@pubnix.net PubNIX Inc. 50 boul. St-Charles P.O. Box 26770

Weekly Routing Table Report

2014-01-31 Thread Routing Analysis Role Account
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, AusNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, LacNOG, TRNOG, CaribNOG and the RIPE Routing Working Group. Daily listings are sent to

Level3 - Las Vegas - issues?

2014-01-31 Thread Petter Bruland
Are there anyone from Level3 here, who can tell me if there are issues with Level3 in Las Vegas area? We're hosted out of the Switch SuperNAP, and we're having high packet loss on two different Internet circuits. And at 9:30 AM PST we had no connectivity to all our 70+ remote locations spread

Question on DHCPv6 address assignment

2014-01-31 Thread Fernando Gont
Folks, I'm wondering about the following two aspects of different DHCPv6 implementations out there: 1) What's the pattern with which addresses are generated/assigned? Are they sequential (fc00::1, fc00::2, etc.)? Random? Something else? 2) What about their stability? Is there any

Ad Hoc BCOP Committee - Call for Volunteers

2014-01-31 Thread Chris Grundemann
Hail NANOGers! Per approval of the NANOG Board in February 2013, a community effort to develop a NANOG sponsored regional BCOP effort was engaged. NANOG BCOP Tracks and updates were provided at RIPE, ARIN, NANOG 57, 58, and 59. In November of 2013, sufficient interest and momentum in the NANOG

Re: Question on DHCPv6 address assignment

2014-01-31 Thread Fernando Gont
Hi, Bill, On 01/31/2014 05:59 PM, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote: i in my bespoke version: Is there any reference I could use for it? 1- psudo-random within a /32 space 2- not stable, unless coded to a fixed address Regarding 2), do you mean they are only stable if you ahve a

Re: Updated ARIN allocation information

2014-01-31 Thread Matt Palmer
On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 11:09:43AM -0500, John Curran wrote: better utilization. It would be nice if there was a way to fairly settle up for the imputed cost of adding a given route to the routing table, as this would provide some proportionate backpressure on growth, would

Re: looking for good AU dedicated server providers..

2014-01-31 Thread Sam Hayes Merritt, III
I've used shared hosting from Rimuhosting (www.rimuhosting.com) for years. They have dedicated servers in Brisbane. Looks like they are colo'ed with Oz Servers. sam

The Cidr Report

2014-01-31 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Jan 31 21:13:37 2014 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

BGP Update Report

2014-01-31 Thread cidr-report
BGP Update Report Interval: 23-Jan-14 -to- 30-Jan-14 (7 days) Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS131072 TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS Rank ASNUpds % Upds/PfxAS-Name 1 - AS12301 41185 2.0% 352.0 -- INVITEL Invitel Tavkozlesi Zrt. 2 - AS840231749

Re: Updated ARIN allocation information

2014-01-31 Thread Mark Andrews
In message 0a78151e-0fdb-4276-9b14-6a88e2941...@istaff.org, John Curran writes: On Jan 30, 2014, at 10:20 PM, Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org wrote: I figure there will be similar problem for other business in other countries and they will fight a similar battles. Eventually the regulators

Re: Updated ARIN allocation information

2014-01-31 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Matt Palmer mpal...@hezmatt.org wrote: Imagine one of the big players saying, we're going to charge you $X per route you send to us (just like transit agreements that state, we will charge you $X/GB of traffic), or your contract allows you to send us N routes

Re: Question on DHCPv6 address assignment

2014-01-31 Thread Owen DeLong
On Jan 31, 2014, at 12:40 PM, Fernando Gont ferna...@gont.com.ar wrote: Folks, I'm wondering about the following two aspects of different DHCPv6 implementations out there: 1) What's the pattern with which addresses are generated/assigned? Are they sequential (fc00::1, fc00::2, etc.)?

Re: Updated ARIN allocation information

2014-01-31 Thread Owen DeLong
On Jan 31, 2014, at 1:29 PM, Matt Palmer mpal...@hezmatt.org wrote: On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 11:09:43AM -0500, John Curran wrote: better utilization. It would be nice if there was a way to fairly settle up for the imputed cost of adding a given route to the routing table, as this

Re: Updated ARIN allocation information

2014-01-31 Thread Tore Anderson
* Mark Andrews I understand this but this block changes the status quo. It is a policy changer. AFAIK ARIN hasn't done allocations to the /28 level like this in the past. This is all new territory. It's not exactly new. Like I've mentioned earlier in this thread, the RIPE NCC has granted

Re: Updated ARIN allocation information

2014-01-31 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 6:45 PM, Tore Anderson t...@fud.no wrote: What I fail to understand from this thread is the apparent expectation that these smaller-than-/24 microscopic delegations from ARIN will be popular. Hi Tore, There is every expectation that they will be unpopular. They're a

Re: Updated ARIN allocation information

2014-01-31 Thread Bryan Socha
has it be clarified by arin on why they are going to allocate /28s? seems a faster way to waste ipv4 space with unusable ip addresses? The only thing I can think of is micro allocations for IX points. *Bryan Socha* Network Engineer 646.450.0472 | *br...@serverstack.com

Re: Updated ARIN allocation information

2014-01-31 Thread Brett Frankenberger
On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 05:10:51AM -0800, Owen DeLong wrote: A /8 slot costs as much as a /28 slot to hold process etc. A routing slot is a routing slot. The *only* reason this isn't a legal problems at the moment is people can still get /24s. The moment /24's aren't readily available

Re: Updated ARIN allocation information

2014-01-31 Thread Owen DeLong
I will attempt to clarify this once more... When I wrote the policy which created this set-aside space, it was, as Bill has said, intended as a hedge to provide minimal resources for organizations that are unable to obtain larger IPv4 blocks through any normal mechanism (standard

Re: Updated ARIN allocation information

2014-01-31 Thread Bryan Socha
I get the idea behind it, but it really has no real world usage. I can still find 15 year old swips from people with /8s who keep getting more addresses. Break out the audits before their next blocks.

Re: Updated ARIN allocation information

2014-01-31 Thread George William Herbert
Without making a policy proposal, (yet), it might make sense to have a suggestion to ARIN that if it *does* end up allocating multiple /28s from one /24 intermediate, that the /24 be regionally reserved so that all sub-blocks are physically nearby and could collaborate on a cooperative /24

Re: Updated ARIN allocation information

2014-01-31 Thread Matt Palmer
On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 03:10:56PM -0800, Owen DeLong wrote: On Jan 31, 2014, at 1:29 PM, Matt Palmer mpal...@hezmatt.org wrote: Imagine one of the big players saying, we're going to charge you $X per route you send to us (just like transit agreements that state, we will charge you $X/GB of

Re: Updated ARIN allocation information

2014-01-31 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 15:10:56 -0800, Owen DeLong said: That’s the optimistic outcome. The pessimistic outcome is that they get rapidly depeered by everyone unwilling to pay $X/GB and then start losing customers because their customers can no longer reach anyone else’s customers through them.

Re: Updated ARIN allocation information

2014-01-31 Thread Owen DeLong
On Jan 31, 2014, at 5:03 PM, Brett Frankenberger rbf+na...@panix.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 05:10:51AM -0800, Owen DeLong wrote: A /8 slot costs as much as a /28 slot to hold process etc. A routing slot is a routing slot. The *only* reason this isn't a legal problems at the