Re: home router battery backup

2022-01-13 Thread Mark Tinka
On 1/13/22 17:56, Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG wrote: I bought one of those power monitors and tossed it on the circuit that goes into my house.  At *night* when everything is off, I might get down as far as ~800 watts. During the day it's more like 2,000-3,500. Almost the same here...

Re: BGP Route Monitoring

2022-01-13 Thread Mark Tinka
On 1/13/22 19:50, Don Thomas Jacob wrote: Disclosure - I work for Blue Planet. Blue Planet, a division of Ciena, has Route Optimization and Analysis, a product that provides visibility into IP/MPLS networks and IGP/BGP routing. Its routing alerts include peering state change, prefix state

Re: home router battery backup

2022-01-13 Thread Mark Tinka
On 1/13/22 17:38, Jay wrote: Greetings,    I am a home user.  Much of my home has been rewired to run off of 12-volts D.C. from a large 1200 Amp/Hour LiFePO4 battery bank that is recharged using Solar.  All my lighting, ceiling fans, water pump, Ham radio gear, weather alert radio, USB

Re: home router battery backup

2022-01-13 Thread John Lightfoot
In Vermont I have a Tesla Powerwall that Green Mountain Power paid for if I agreed to let them manage it. Since then I’ve never had an outage of any kind, I usually figure out that there is one by seeing my neighbors’ lights go off. I’ve also had great luck with my ISP, which is Comcast. Even

Re: home router battery backup

2022-01-13 Thread Michael Thomas
On 1/12/22 3:11 PM, Scott T Anderson via NANOG wrote: Hi everyone, Thanks very much for all the responses throughout the day. They are very helpful. Your (collective) answers triggered a couple follow-on questions: For those individuals with backup battery power for their modem/router,

Re: home router battery backup

2022-01-13 Thread Michael Thomas
On 1/12/22 9:21 PM, Mark Tinka wrote: On 1/12/22 21:41, Michael Thomas wrote: We just installed a battery too, but it will probably only last ~1 day and much less than that in winter. We're in the process of looking at a generator that interfaces directly with the inverter so that it

Linux-running SFPs [Was: Re: ONTs]

2022-01-13 Thread Julien Goodwin
On 14/1/22 2:45 am, Dave Taht wrote: Thx. I started a thread over on the cerowrt-devel mailing list on this, it was cool to find several linux based SFPs worth playing with, Finding a set of "common" ONTs worth configuring in a way more suited for an fq_codel'd router (and especially not using

Re: home router battery backup

2022-01-13 Thread Dave Taht
On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 11:00 AM Chris Adams wrote: > > Once upon a time, Dave Taht said: > > I tend also to hang a good gps off a second usb port, if available. > > There's a topic for geeks - does anyone else really know (or care) > > what time it really is? > > 25 (or 6) to 4? > > Running GPS

Re: BGP Route Monitoring

2022-01-13 Thread Don Thomas Jacob
Disclosure - I work for Blue Planet. Blue Planet, a division of Ciena, has Route Optimization and Analysis, a product that provides visibility into IP/MPLS networks and IGP/BGP routing. Its routing alerts include peering state change, prefix state change, path change, alerts for when number of

Re: home router battery backup

2022-01-13 Thread Tony Wicks
Yep, a pair of long nose pliers and that beeper pops right off the board, real easy.

Re: home router battery backup

2022-01-13 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Dave Taht said: > I tend also to hang a good gps off a second usb port, if available. > There's a topic for geeks - does anyone else really know (or care) > what time it really is? 25 (or 6) to 4? Running GPS over USB for timing makes me twitch though - too much jitter! :)

Re: home router battery backup

2022-01-13 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Dave Taht said: > Also, I *hate* the beeps. It's dark out, I know the powers off, darn > it, no need to beep. That's why I buy 'smart' upses because you can > tell them not beep. You can tell ANY UPS to not beep... sometimes it just requires more force (and wire cutters). --

Re: home router battery backup

2022-01-13 Thread Stephen Stuart
> I tend also to hang a good gps off a second usb port, if available. > There's a topic for geeks - does anyone else really know (or care) > what time it really is? if so i can't imagine why (no, no) we've all got time enough to cry (oddly apropos for the topic of power outages)

RE: home router battery backup

2022-01-13 Thread Ryland Kremeier
My current solution is having the UPS plugged into my bare metal fileserver. But I’m wanting to get rid of it at some point so any other solution will be superior to none. I appreciate the added info! That being said my current router solution is a Ubiquity ER4. I don’t currently run openWRT

[NANOG-announce] "Hackathon" Solves Real-World Tech Issue + Committee Nominations + More

2022-01-13 Thread Nanog News
*“Hackathon” Solves Real-World Tech Issue* Code Developed during NANOG Hackathon Goes Live Hackathons are an essential part of NANOG conferences. They are designed as a “fail forward” space where mistakes can be made as learning, having fun + building community is the prime objective. And

"Hackathon" Solves Real-World Tech Issue + Committee Nominations + More

2022-01-13 Thread Nanog News
*“Hackathon” Solves Real-World Tech Issue* Code Developed during NANOG Hackathon Goes Live Hackathons are an essential part of NANOG conferences. They are designed as a “fail forward” space where mistakes can be made as learning, having fun + building community is the prime objective. And

Re: home router battery backup

2022-01-13 Thread Dave Taht
On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 10:02 AM Ryland Kremeier wrote: > > Thanks for this! Definitely going to look into doing this! I typically run the ups monitor off a suitable openwrt box (most have at least one usb port) no need for a separate pi. I tend also to hang a good gps off a second usb port, if

Re: home router battery backup

2022-01-13 Thread Dave Taht
On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 9:56 AM Stephen Stuart wrote: > > [...] > > note that if your ups has a usb port, you can attach a raspberry pi > and run upsmon to be told (among other things) when the battery > requires replacement rather than rely on hearing the beeps. good for > the out-of-the-way

RE: home router battery backup

2022-01-13 Thread Ryland Kremeier
Thanks for this! Definitely going to look into doing this! Thank you, -- Ryland From: Stephen Stuart Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2022 11:58 AM To: Jared Mauch Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: home router battery backup

Re: home router battery backup

2022-01-13 Thread Stephen Stuart
[...] note that if your ups has a usb port, you can attach a raspberry pi and run upsmon to be told (among other things) when the battery requires replacement rather than rely on hearing the beeps. good for the out-of-the-way closets with network gear.

Re: home router battery backup

2022-01-13 Thread Jared Mauch
> On Jan 13, 2022, at 12:28 PM, Chris Adams wrote: > > Once upon a time, Brandon Martin said: >> AT and Comcast don't seem to provide battery by default if you buy >> voice service from them. > > The only major power outage I've experienced at my house (I've been here > over 20 years) was

Re: home router battery backup

2022-01-13 Thread Steven Champeon
on Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 05:35:19PM +, Scott T Anderson via NANOG wrote: > Hi NANOG mailing list, > > I am a graduate student, currently conducting research on how power > outages affect home Internet users. Not a netadmin, but longtime sysadmin, and have been working from home for over a

Re: home router battery backup

2022-01-13 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Brandon Martin said: > AT and Comcast don't seem to provide battery by default if you buy > voice service from them. The only major power outage I've experienced at my house (I've been here over 20 years) was the May 2011 tornado outbreak, when TVA lost hundreds of distribution

home router battery backup

2022-01-13 Thread james.cut...@consultant.com
> On Jan 12, 2022, at 5:11 PM, Scott T Anderson via NANOG > wrote: > > For those individuals with backup battery power for their modem/router, do > they maintain Internet access throughout a power outage (as long as their > backup power solution works)? I.e., does the

Re: home router battery backup

2022-01-13 Thread Dave Taht
Has this xkcd gone by yet? https://xkcd.com/705/ I would actually like a study of how network "glitches" and outages affect more normal humanity. I did - and it took years to relax this much - finally get to the point to when the power went out, I'd take a walk, find a book, or do something

Re: home router battery backup

2022-01-13 Thread Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG
On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 7:41 AM Jay wrote: > We consume around 150 watts on DC and generally around 600 watts on AC > (unless a freezer or air conditioner cycles on). When the power goes out, > sometimes we don't immediately notice it! I think I am living inside a > giant UPS, and more

Re: home router battery backup

2022-01-13 Thread Mark Tinka
On 1/13/22 17:44, Andy Ringsmuth wrote: The utility had never experienced that before either. The entire city only had a couple hours notice that this would be happening. Oh well. We got through it. Chances are they have since upgraded their experience and procedures for this occurrence

Re: ONTs

2022-01-13 Thread Dave Taht
On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 10:08 PM Brandon Martin wrote: > > On 1/12/22 4:15 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > I would have to imagine any QOS/traffic shaping is done in the OMCI and > > hence would probably be in the GPON spec, g.984. I would look there. > > > > Just guessing it would hold true with

Re: home router battery backup

2022-01-13 Thread Andy Ringsmuth
> On Jan 13, 2022, at 9:22 AM, Mark Tinka wrote: > >> The power company said the rotating outages would be 30-45 minutes, which I >> do have UPS capacity to handle. But the rotating outage went close to 2 >> hours, exhausting my UPS capacity and getting to the point where I was more >>

RE: home router battery backup

2022-01-13 Thread Jay
Greetings, I am a home user. Much of my home has been rewired to run off of 12-volts D.C. from a large 1200 Amp/Hour LiFePO4 battery bank that is recharged using Solar. All my lighting, ceiling fans, water pump, Ham radio gear, weather alert radio, USB charging stations, alarm system,

Re: home router battery backup

2022-01-13 Thread Mark Tinka
On 1/13/22 17:15, Andy Ringsmuth wrote: The power company said the rotating outages would be 30-45 minutes, which I do have UPS capacity to handle. But the rotating outage went close to 2 hours, exhausting my UPS capacity and getting to the point where I was more concerned about the

Re: home router battery backup

2022-01-13 Thread Andy Ringsmuth
> On Jan 12, 2022, at 5:11 PM, Scott T Anderson via NANOG > wrote: > > For those individuals with backup battery power for their modem/router, do > they maintain Internet access throughout a power outage (as long as their > backup power solution works)? I.e., does the rest of the ISP

Re: home router battery backup

2022-01-13 Thread Mark Tinka
On 1/13/22 01:11, Scott T Anderson via NANOG wrote: For those individuals with backup battery power for their modem/router, do they maintain Internet access throughout a power outage (as long as their backup power solution works)? I.e., does the rest of the ISP network maintain service

RE: home router battery backup

2022-01-13 Thread Ryland Kremeier
As a home user I have everything behind battery backup, my desktop, switches between buildings, and home server rack. Any outage that lasts less than 30 minutes will not kick me offline. I mainly have my equipment behind UPS to protect from surges/storms and to account for power blinks or

Contact request AS 6453

2022-01-13 Thread Drew Weaver
Does anyone have a contact for AS 6453 or are there any AS 6453 folks on list? Seeing some routing trouble from their customers to the US. Thanks, -Drew

RE: home router battery backup

2022-01-13 Thread Scott T Anderson via NANOG
Hi everyone, Thanks very much for all the responses throughout the day. They are very helpful. Your (collective) answers triggered a couple follow-on questions: For those individuals with backup battery power for their modem/router, do they maintain Internet access throughout a power outage

Re: SRv6 Capable NOS and Devices

2022-01-13 Thread Saku Ytti
On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 at 00:31, Colton Conor wrote: > I agree it seems like MPLS is still the gold standard, but ideally I > would only want to have costly, MPLS devices on the edge, only where > needed. The core and transport devices I would love to be able to use > generic IPv6 enabled switches,