On 17/07/13 23:52, Jeff Walter wrote:
On 7/17/13 1:59 PM, Alex Harrowell wrote:
On 15/07/13 01:09, Tony Patti wrote:
TWELVE years ago (press release March 20 2001), Comcast deployed
Linux-based
Sun Cobalt Qube appliances as CPE with their business-class Internet
service,
these provided
JVNCNet survived and became operated by Global Enterprise Services, the company
Sergio created to spin off the network out of Princeton University, GES was
acquired by Verio in 1997 and Sergio moved to start another company. Last
message I've got from him said he was in Panama providing
On 15/07/13 01:09, Tony Patti wrote:
TWELVE years ago (press release March 20 2001), Comcast deployed Linux-based
Sun Cobalt Qube appliances as CPE with their business-class Internet
service,
these provided firewall security, web caching, optional content filtering,
an e-mail server, a web
On 7/17/13 1:59 PM, Alex Harrowell wrote:
On 15/07/13 01:09, Tony Patti wrote:
TWELVE years ago (press release March 20 2001), Comcast deployed
Linux-based
Sun Cobalt Qube appliances as CPE with their business-class Internet
service,
these provided firewall security, web caching, optional
On 7/17/2013 1:59 PM, Alex Harrowell wrote:
On 15/07/13 01:09, Tony Patti wrote:
TWELVE years ago (press release March 20 2001), Comcast deployed
Linux-based
Sun Cobalt Qube appliances as CPE with their business-class Internet
service,
these provided firewall security, web caching, optional
On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:36:19 -0700, Roy said:
On 7/17/2013 1:59 PM, Alex Harrowell wrote:
On 15/07/13 01:09, Tony Patti wrote:
TWELVE years ago (press release March 20 2001), Comcast deployed
Linux-based
Sun Cobalt Qube appliances as CPE with their business-class Internet
service,
On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 16:36 -0700, Roy wrote:
On 7/17/2013 1:59 PM, Alex Harrowell wrote:
On 15/07/13 01:09, Tony Patti wrote:
TWELVE years ago (press release March 20 2001), Comcast deployed
Linux-based
Sun Cobalt Qube appliances as CPE with their business-class Internet
service,
Ohh we had some of those at JVNCNet, a real piece of crap.
-Jorge
On Jul 17, 2013, at 6:56 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:36:19 -0700, Roy said:
On 7/17/2013 1:59 PM, Alex Harrowell wrote:
On 15/07/13 01:09, Tony Patti wrote:
TWELVE years ago (press release March
Ohh we had some of those at JVNCNet, a real piece of crap.
Wow. JVNCnet. Haven't heard that name in a long, long time.
* Alex Rubenstein (a...@corp.nac.net) wrote:
Ohh we had some of those at JVNCNet, a real piece of crap.
Wow. JVNCnet. Haven't heard that name in a long, long time.
RIP Sir Alec Guinness.
Stephen
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* Alex Rubenstein (a...@corp.nac.net) wrote:
Ohh we had some of those at JVNCNet, a real piece of crap.
Wow. JVNCnet. Haven't heard that name in a long, long time.
Same here. I worked there from September 1987 through the closure in june of
1990. Whatever happened to Sergio Heker?
On Jul 12, 2013, at 19:22 , Nick Khamis sym...@gmail.com wrote:
Set up your own email server, host your own web pages, maintain your own
cloud, breath your own oxygen FTW.
That's simply not realistic for many companies and essentially all people (to a
first approximation).
--
TTFN,
patrick
W. Gilmore
To: NANOG list
Subject: Re: Friday Hosing
Sent: Jul 14, 2013 6:22 PM
On Jul 12, 2013, at 19:22 , Nick Khamis sym...@gmail.com wrote:
Set up your own email server, host your own web pages, maintain your own
cloud, breath your own oxygen FTW.
That's simply not realistic for many
[mailto:patr...@ianai.net]
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 6:23 PM
To: NANOG list
Subject: Re: Friday Hosing
On Jul 12, 2013, at 19:22 , Nick Khamis sym...@gmail.com wrote:
Set up your own email server, host your own web pages, maintain your
own cloud, breath your own oxygen FTW.
That's simply
, July 14, 2013 6:23 PM
To: NANOG list
Subject: Re: Friday Hosing
On Jul 12, 2013, at 19:22 , Nick Khamis sym...@gmail.com wrote:
Set up your own email server, host your own web pages, maintain your
own cloud, breath your own oxygen FTW.
That's simply not realistic for many companies
Packaging Corp.
From: jim deleskie [mailto:deles...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 8:44 PM
To: Tony Patti
Cc: NANOG list
Subject: Re: Friday Hosing
I could support any of these services myself, and have guys that work me
that can as well, but none of these are my core business, and my
On 7/12/13, Jean-Francois Mezei jfmezei_na...@vaxination.ca wrote:
On 13-07-12 11:44, Alain Hebert wrote:
1- You call to make cancellation on date X. Speak to person 1.
2- Wait 20 minutes
In a theoretical ideal world, that would probably work fine, but a
request for Shut off service
-
From: Jimmy Hess [mailto:mysi...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 4:09 AM
To: Jean-Francois Mezei
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Friday Hosing
On 7/12/13, Jean-Francois Mezei jfmezei_na...@vaxination.ca wrote:
On 13-07-12 11:44, Alain Hebert wrote:
1- You call to make cancellation
Just finished migration from a provider that I was no longer happy with to
a new provider. Fully expecting them to turn me off the moment I said
'cancel', I prepared everything in advance, moved all the pointers over a
few days prior to my planned day to tell them to 'shutoff', retrieved a
final
On 7/13/13, Eric Adler eapt...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes. Maintain control. If you want to avoid the cost of
doubling, discuss the risk for the new provider, and ask if they can
waive their fee for the period until the old service is cancelled,
before agreeing to complete the sale.
As
Is it me or the bigger a corporation gets the more vindictive (a b-word
intended) they are to customers leaving them?
--
One of my *new* customer was caught by the local monopole into moving
their domain/site/emails/phone/oxygen supply/etc to them.
But when the usual grace period stopped
whenever the carrier dictates,
regardless of what your contract says.
Typing this was somewhat therapeutic.
-Original Message-
From: Alain Hebert [mailto:aheb...@pubnix.net]
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 10:45 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Friday Hosing
Is it me or the bigger
- Original Message -
From: Alain Hebert aheb...@pubnix.net
Is it me or the bigger a corporation gets the more vindictive (a
b-word intended) they are to customers leaving them?
[ long saga elided ]
And now you know why it's standard operating procedure:
*Never* tell the losing
On Fri, 12 Jul 2013, Alain Hebert wrote:
Is it me or the bigger a corporation gets the more vindictive (a b-word
intended) they are to customers leaving them?
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by
stupidity.
Hopefully this isn't one of mine, but I've seen this
Composed on a virtual keyboard, please forgive typos.
On Jul 12, 2013, at 13:25, na...@namor.ca wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jul 2013, Alain Hebert wrote:
Is it me or the bigger a corporation gets the more vindictive (a b-word
intended) they are to customers leaving them?
Never attribute to malice
On 7/12/13 1:39 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
Put another way, whether it was stupid or evil, the results are the same.
Turning off a customer in good standing is actionable in court, and should be
avoided by legitimate businesses at nearly all costs.
You can void a contract at any time so
On Jul 12, 2013, at 13:44 , Bryan Fields br...@bryanfields.net wrote:
On 7/12/13 1:39 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
Put another way, whether it was stupid or evil, the results are the same.
Turning off a customer in good standing is actionable in court, and should
be avoided by legitimate
On 13-07-12 11:44, Alain Hebert wrote:
After a somewhat pleasant call to the monopole informing them that
they are planning to divorce them in 30 days, and that it was clearly
stated that since they are paying for those additional 30 days that
their services wont be cut off...
1- You call to
On 07/12/13 13:54, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
On Jul 12, 2013, at 13:44 , Bryan Fields br...@bryanfields.net wrote:
On 7/12/13 1:39 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
Put another way, whether it was stupid or evil, the results are the same.
Turning off a customer in good standing is actionable in
Set up your own email server, host your own web pages, maintain your own
cloud, breath your own oxygen FTW.
N.
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