[NetBehaviour] Rachel

2010-03-17 Thread Alan Sondheim
Rachel I sit down to read Rachel, Her Stage Life and Her Real Life, by Francis Gribble, 1911 - 90 years after Rachel's birth, fifty-three years after her death. I stop. I can't go on. I don't know why I'm reading this. I feel in my bones - incessantly - that I'm close to death. I felt this

[NetBehaviour] SOFTIES and MUDs by David Jhave Johnston

2010-03-17 Thread Jim Andrews
I've posted before about the net art of David Jhave Johnston. I think he's doing some of the most notable, significant net art right now. I originally posted about his piece Sound Seeker at http://vispo.com/jhave . Here is some related work. SOFTIES http://glia.ca/conu/SOFTIES MUDs

Re: [NetBehaviour] A statement

2010-03-17 Thread ken
too right On 16 Mar 2010, at 19:28, Curt Cloninger wrote: Hi all, I would just chime in here and reference Benjamin's famous art in the age of mechanical reproduction essay written way back in 1935. He notes the difference between painting as stationary/unique/cult object vs.

Re: [NetBehaviour] A statement

2010-03-17 Thread martin mitchell
Hello... Does anyone have a spare Bable fish .. martin. On 16 Mar 2010, at 17:50, Alan Sondheim wrote: Hi - What I'm confused about here - hasn't this been worked over, say by Daniel Buren's Five Texts or the group BPMT (Buren, Parmentier, Mosset, Toroni) in the 70s? There's

[NetBehaviour] MySpace To Sell User Data.

2010-03-17 Thread marc garrett
MySpace To Sell User Data. Hot on the news of Netflix cancelling its latest contest over privacy concerns, news has spread that MySpace is going in the opposite direction. Apparently, the one-time leading social network is now selling user data to third party collection firms

Re: [NetBehaviour] MySpace To Sell User Data.

2010-03-17 Thread martin mitchell
Thanks for the info' marc. martin. On 17 Mar 2010, at 10:42, marc garrett wrote: MySpace To Sell User Data. Hot on the news of Netflix cancelling its latest contest over privacy concerns, news has spread that MySpace is going in the opposite direction. Apparently, the one-time leading

Re: [NetBehaviour] A statement

2010-03-17 Thread Simon Biggs
I don¹t think there currently is, nor will it be desirable in the future to have, a language specific to computer art. I¹ve been around this scene long enough to have gone through several cycles of calls for media specific languages. Once upon a time this might have been relevant, when media had

Re: [NetBehaviour] A statement

2010-03-17 Thread Simon Biggs
Hi Alan What you are suggesting is that painting has become a primarily social praxis ­ which I am arguing about media in general. The question then might be whether it was ever primarily anything else? Best Simon Simon Biggs s.bi...@eca.ac.uk si...@littlepig.org.uk Skype: simonbiggsuk

Re: [NetBehaviour] MySpace To Sell User Data.

2010-03-17 Thread marc garrett
No probz :-) marc Thanks for the info' marc. martin. On 17 Mar 2010, at 10:42, marc garrett wrote: MySpace To Sell User Data. Hot on the news of Netflix cancelling its latest contest over privacy concerns, news has spread that MySpace is going in the opposite direction. Apparently, the

[NetBehaviour] Martin Krenn - In between the movements.

2010-03-17 Thread info
Martin Krenn - In between the movements. Center for Contemporary Arts Celje Likovni salon www.celeia.info/likovni-salon-celje Martin Krenn In between the movements Likovni salon, 11.3. – 11.4.2010 The Austrian artist Martin Krenn explores and probes socio-political subjects, focusing

[NetBehaviour] ART FAIRS ARE ABOUT MONEY NOT ART

2010-03-17 Thread dave miller
Art fairs, scoff the critics, have become shopping malls for the super-rich. They are giant marketplaces for the wealthy to buy, invest and speculate on the commodity of art. Galleries pressure artists to churn out 'safe', sellable works, which are not so much looked at as bought in bulk. As the

Re: [NetBehaviour] A statement

2010-03-17 Thread Rob Myers
On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:40:17 +, Simon Biggs s.bi...@eca.ac.uk wrote: I don¹t think there currently is, nor will it be desirable in the future to have, a language specific to computer art. It's unavoidable to a degree, with glitch art, livecoding, generative art, net.art, etc. all having

Re: [NetBehaviour] A statement

2010-03-17 Thread Alan Sondheim
I think there were times it - and other media - were thought of as something as, as determined and determinative, and that has to be taken into account. I've been reading about Baedeker travel books, and there are similar issues - older books have a specificity about the cultures visited,

Re: [NetBehaviour] A statement

2010-03-17 Thread marc garrett
Hi Rob, Ywhat is so different with say (media art or whatever it is), is that, it all comes from a different kind of place than the more linear, canon of art history, so not only are we dealing with issues of language, we are dealing with cultural paradigm shifts which declare alternative

Re: [NetBehaviour] A statement

2010-03-17 Thread marc garrett
Hi Alan, Once our histories and practice are owned by the powers that be, then we will be allowed our own special place and key ;-) marc I think there were times it - and other media - were thought of as something as, as determined and determinative, and that has to be taken into

[NetBehaviour] Zero Dollar Laptop at dorkbotlondon 17 March 2010.

2010-03-17 Thread info
Zero Dollar Laptop at dorkbotlondon 17 March 2010. Hi there, Tonight some of the Furtherfield (www.furtherfield.org) crew, Ruth Catlow, Marc Garrett and Olga Panades, Jake Harries from Access Space (www.access-space.org/) will be at Dorkbot - talking about the Zero Dollar Laptop Workshops,

Re: [NetBehaviour] A statement

2010-03-17 Thread Simon Biggs
Hi Rob It is arguable whether the terms you have indicated are all native to computer art. Yes, they are native to networked culture and techno-aesthetics but computer art is a more specific area of practice. The terms you have used that are primarily applicable to that practice is generative art

Re: [NetBehaviour] A statement

2010-03-17 Thread Simon Biggs
Most poetic :) Simon Biggs s.bi...@eca.ac.uk si...@littlepig.org.uk Skype: simonbiggsuk http://www.littlepig.org.uk/ Research Professor edinburgh college of art http://www.eca.ac.uk/ Creative Interdisciplinary Research into CoLlaborative Environments http://www.eca.ac.uk/circle/ Electronic

Re: [NetBehaviour] A statement

2010-03-17 Thread Simon Biggs
Do we want to be part of their canon? I would suggest that it is the artworld that has some catching up to do ­ not those who are already active in the new media and network domains. The artworld is so old media. Simon Biggs s.bi...@eca.ac.uk si...@littlepig.org.uk Skype: simonbiggsuk

Re: [NetBehaviour] A statement

2010-03-17 Thread Mark Hancock
Are we talking about specific approaches to thinking about art and contextualising (media) art history? If that is the case then I think all approaches are valid. I think it's important to develop contexts for the development of arts practice, but rather than throwing out certain approaches and

Re: [NetBehaviour] A statement

2010-03-17 Thread marc garrett
Hi Mark, Besides, as soon as you've catalogued and defined the beast, it no longer has any power, does it? precisely! So, even though we may have difficulty justifying these terms or language to others, who may not necessarily appreciate or condone such multifarious and imaginative leaps

Re: [NetBehaviour] A statement

2010-03-17 Thread Mark Hancock
just because we do not know exactly what it is, does not mean that it is not an amazing thing ;-) definitely! Which was one of the great things at the Decode exhibition. People were bouncing around and 'gooning' in front of screens and displays without understanding (or needing to) the context

[NetBehaviour] matley lepe calshot

2010-03-17 Thread James Morris
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Re: [NetBehaviour] A statement

2010-03-17 Thread Alan Sondheim
I wonder if the word 'media' has any use at all at this point; it too is overdetermined. One might speak of - and this is also a mess and stretch- ing it - of an artifact culture and a transmission culture. The former emphasizes things that stay pretty much where they are and are pretty much