[NetBehaviour] website + statement updates

2011-03-03 Thread Yann Le Guennec
My current artistic research explores the relationship between space and time of places and space and time of information, or how our perceptions of one and another are transformed through these relationships. This research takes the shape of online digital pictures, photographs changed by

Re: [NetBehaviour] A statement

2010-03-18 Thread Simon Biggs
/ From: Alan Sondheim sondh...@panix.com Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:40:22 -0400 (EDT) To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] A statement

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2010-03-18 Thread Alan Sondheim
Hi Simon, I'm just not sure what the word means at this point. It begins to sound like ether. I tell people I'm a 'new media' artist - but that's a short- cut that creates an odd sense of understanding that really has little meaning. I'm more interested in what, if anything, we're mediated

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2010-03-18 Thread Jim Andrews
I think your point about the notion of media specificity being unimportant now, Simon, fails in certain ways. For instance, concerning net art, we see zillions of grainy videos and kazoolians of textual blogs, these days, in a TVification and blogification of the net. Because the technologies

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2010-03-17 Thread ken
too right On 16 Mar 2010, at 19:28, Curt Cloninger wrote: Hi all, I would just chime in here and reference Benjamin's famous art in the age of mechanical reproduction essay written way back in 1935. He notes the difference between painting as stationary/unique/cult object vs.

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2010-03-17 Thread martin mitchell
Hello... Does anyone have a spare Bable fish .. martin. On 16 Mar 2010, at 17:50, Alan Sondheim wrote: Hi - What I'm confused about here - hasn't this been worked over, say by Daniel Buren's Five Texts or the group BPMT (Buren, Parmentier, Mosset, Toroni) in the 70s? There's

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2010-03-17 Thread Simon Biggs
distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] A statement Brian.. Why is there an argument against me ... please lets not be so narrow minded. How amazing you have completely misunderstood my point of view see other links, I'm not supporting idea of pure painting

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2010-03-17 Thread Simon Biggs
: Alan Sondheim sondh...@panix.com Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:50:35 -0400 (EDT) To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] A statement Hi - What

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2010-03-17 Thread Rob Myers
On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:40:17 +, Simon Biggs s.bi...@eca.ac.uk wrote: I don¹t think there currently is, nor will it be desirable in the future to have, a language specific to computer art. It's unavoidable to a degree, with glitch art, livecoding, generative art, net.art, etc. all having

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2010-03-17 Thread Alan Sondheim
: [NetBehaviour] A statement Hi - What I'm confused about here - hasn't this been worked over, say by Daniel Buren's Five Texts or the group BPMT (Buren, Parmentier, Mosset, Toroni) in the 70s? There's always been a dialectic, sometimes dialog, between painting as conservative and overdetermined, and more

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2010-03-17 Thread marc garrett
Hi Rob, Ywhat is so different with say (media art or whatever it is), is that, it all comes from a different kind of place than the more linear, canon of art history, so not only are we dealing with issues of language, we are dealing with cultural paradigm shifts which declare alternative

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2010-03-17 Thread marc garrett
netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:50:35 -0400 (EDT) To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] A statement Hi - What I'm confused about here - hasn't this been worked over, say by Daniel Buren's Five Texts

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2010-03-17 Thread Simon Biggs
2010 10:11:58 -0400 To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] A statement On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:40:17 +, Simon Biggs s.bi...@eca.ac.uk wrote: I don¹t think there currently is, nor will it be desirable in the future to have

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2010-03-17 Thread Simon Biggs
distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] A statement Hi Alan, Once our histories and practice are owned by the powers that be, then we will be allowed our own special place and key ;-) marcI think there were times it - and other media - were thought

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2010-03-17 Thread Simon Biggs
garrett marc.garr...@furtherfield.org Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:22:38 + To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] A statement Hi Rob

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2010-03-17 Thread Mark Hancock
: *Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:24:23 + *To: *NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org *Subject: *Re: [NetBehaviour] A statement Hi Alan, Once our histories and practice are owned by the powers that be, then we will be allowed our own special place and key

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2010-03-17 Thread marc garrett
@netbehaviour.org *Subject: *Re: [NetBehaviour] A statement Hi Alan, Once our histories and practice are owned by the powers that be, then we will be allowed our own special place and key ;-) marcI think there were times it - and other media - were thought of as something

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2010-03-17 Thread Mark Hancock
: [NetBehaviour] A statement Hi Alan, Once our histories and practice are owned by the powers that be, then we will be allowed our own special place and key ;-) marcI think there were times it - and other media - were thought of as something as, as determined

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2010-03-17 Thread Alan Sondheim
distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:02:49 + To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] A statement Brian.. Why is there an argument against me ... please lets not be so narrow minded. How

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2010-03-16 Thread Simon Biggs
, 15 Mar 2010 23:43:59 + To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] A statement Simon. There is a difference not a contradiction ... To be more constructive there is an undeniable difference between painting

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2010-03-16 Thread martin mitchell
martinmitc...@mac.com Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 23:43:59 + To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] A statement Simon

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2010-03-16 Thread Alan Sondheim
Hi - What I'm confused about here - hasn't this been worked over, say by Daniel Buren's Five Texts or the group BPMT (Buren, Parmentier, Mosset, Toroni) in the 70s? There's always been a dialectic, sometimes dialog, between painting as conservative and overdetermined, and more open

Re: [NetBehaviour] A statement

2010-03-16 Thread martin mitchell
distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 23:43:59 + To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] A statement Simon. There is a difference not a contradiction

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2010-03-16 Thread Curt Cloninger
Hi all, I would just chime in here and reference Benjamin's famous art in the age of mechanical reproduction essay written way back in 1935. He notes the difference between painting as stationary/unique/cult object vs. photography and film as mobile/multiple/aura-emptied object(s). Benjamin

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2010-03-16 Thread Alan Sondheim
Actually architecture and amazon.com make good sense - and these sorts of extensions create a poetics of media. As far as what's gained one way or another - gained is problematic; it depends on whose gaining what why when where within what community etc. etc. Calling my Second Life install a

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2010-03-16 Thread Jim Andrews
photoshop and other apps use various often mixed metaphors. i use director quite a bit. it's sort of like flash, an intermedia/multimedia authoring platform. one makes 'movies' in it. they can be like 'movies' or they can be interactive and you can skip around on the 'timeline'. the 'movies'

[NetBehaviour] A statement

2010-03-15 Thread Yann Le Guennec
My work is about the evolution of painting in a networked environment, both physical and digital, present and distant, in time and space. I make what i call variable paintings. They address classical themes such as Landscape or Still life. These paintings are not paintings in the sense of

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2010-03-15 Thread martin mitchell
Hello. Please separate the idea of painting from the creation of digital images it's a contradiction and makes it difficult for people to understand what digital artists are creating... Martin Mitchell. Crispy Nails Animation Studio. http://www.crispynails.co.uk/ On 15 Mar 2010, at

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2010-03-15 Thread martin mitchell
does and how it works. ja http://vispo.com/dbcinema - Original Message - From: Yann Le Guennec i...@x-arn.org To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] A statement Hello

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2010-03-15 Thread Yann Le Guennec
: Re: [NetBehaviour] A statement Hello, Thanks for your feedback, maybe you're right. I'm thinking about 'painting' not from a technical point of view, involving some defined kinds of support and materials, but from a more conceptual one, as an historical and pictural practice in art

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2010-03-15 Thread ken
: [NetBehaviour] A statement Hello, Thanks for your feedback, maybe you're right. I'm thinking about 'painting' not from a technical point of view, involving some defined kinds of support and materials, but from a more conceptual one, as an historical and pictural practice in art. From

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2010-03-15 Thread Corrado Morgana
To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] A statement So according to what you've been told, the good one (terminology) would be a digital one, using terminology specific to technology (coding, networks,...) ? What i see in the way you use words

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2010-03-15 Thread Yann Le Guennec
to understand what dbCinema does and how it works. ja http://vispo.com/dbcinema - Original Message - From: Yann Le Guennec i...@x-arn.org To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour

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2010-03-15 Thread Yann Le Guennec
, March 15, 2010 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] A statement Hello, Thanks for your feedback, maybe you're right. I'm thinking about 'painting' not from a technical point of view, involving some defined kinds of support and materials, but from a more conceptual one, as an historical

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2010-03-15 Thread Simon Biggs
@netbehaviour.org Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:52:56 + To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] A statement Hello. Please separate the idea of painting from the creation of digital images it's a contradiction and makes

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2010-03-15 Thread Jim Andrews
So according to what you've been told, the good one (terminology) would be a digital one, using terminology specific to technology (coding, networks,...) ? They didn't say what it should be. Just what it should not be. The 'painting', 'paint', 'brush', 'nib', 'palette', 'canvas' etc metaphors

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2010-03-15 Thread martin mitchell
@netbehaviour.org Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:52:56 + To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] A statement Hello. Please separate the idea of painting from the creation of digital images it's a contradiction and makes

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2010-03-15 Thread martin mitchell
: [NetBehaviour] A statement So according to what you've been told, the good one (terminology) would be a digital one, using terminology specific to technology (coding, networks,...) ? What i see in the way you use words , and in your work, is a convergence between painting and cinema

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2010-03-13 Thread James Morris
a poor man's linked-list sorting routine: void llist_sort(llist* ll) { lnode* ln = ll-head; lnode* n = 0; lnode* p = 0; lnode* next = 0; lnode* prev = 0; while(ln) { next = n = ln-next; if (n) { while(ll-cb_cmp(ln-data, n-data) 0) {

[NetBehaviour] IMPORTANT STATEMENT LXXII

2010-02-05 Thread manik
... Martin Kemp Наслов: Hi nikola Hi, It is kind of you to have sent an invitation. I'm trying to keep a low profile on here (really for family). I'm already inundated with messages and trying to keep the situation under control. I hope you won't mind if were are just friends in the general

[NetBehaviour] IMPORTANT STATEMENT LVII

2010-01-16 Thread manik
...Hariti Rj Don't know what to say... MANIK...JANUARY...2010...___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour

[NetBehaviour] IMPORTANT STATEMENT XXXV

2009-12-20 Thread manik
Lev Manovich ...OMG...LOL... MANIK,DECEMEBER 2009...___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour