Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-06 Thread Johannes Berg
On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 07:59 -0500, Theodore Tso wrote: (depending on whether we want to accomodate Debian's glacial release schedule). I don't think Debian updates the kernel to some actual newer version either. johannes signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-05 Thread Johannes Berg
On Sun, 2007-03-04 at 17:17 -0800, Greg KH wrote: This is due to the recent sysfs restructuring I think. IIRC the fix is to upgrade hal to a current git version. If that's the cause, the fix is to back out whatever was done to break userspace. Breaking userspace is not ok. Upgrading

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-05 Thread Theodore Tso
On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 05:17:29PM -0800, Greg KH wrote: I should not have broken any userspace if CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED is enabled with that patch. If that is enabled, and that patch still causes problems, please let me know. But we still need to update the help text for

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-05 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 01:13:26AM -0600, Matt Mackall wrote: On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 11:02:48PM -0800, Greg KH wrote: On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 12:42:29AM -0600, Matt Mackall wrote: On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 05:16:25PM -0800, Greg KH wrote: On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 04:08:57PM -0600, Matt

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-05 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 07:59:50AM -0500, Theodore Tso wrote: On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 05:17:29PM -0800, Greg KH wrote: I should not have broken any userspace if CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED is enabled with that patch. If that is enabled, and that patch still causes problems, please let me know.

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-05 Thread Matt Mackall
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 10:58:13AM -0800, Greg KH wrote: Ok, how about the following patch. Is it acceptable to everyone? - If you are using a distro that was released in 2006 or later, - it should be safe to say N here. + If you are using an OpenSuSE, Gentoo, Ubuntu, or

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-05 Thread Matt Mackall
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 04:46:09PM +0100, Tomasz Torcz wrote: That's not the point. The point is that Debian/unstable as of _this morning_ doesn't work. For reference, I'm running both the latest releases of both hal (0.5.8.1-6.1) and network-manager (0.6.4-6). And there are people telling

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-05 Thread Joel Becker
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 04:46:09PM +0100, Tomasz Torcz wrote: On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 01:13:26AM -0600, Matt Mackall wrote: That's not the point. The point is that Debian/unstable as of _this morning_ doesn't work. For reference, I'm running both the latest releases of both hal

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-05 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 01:55:30PM -0600, Matt Mackall wrote: On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 10:58:13AM -0800, Greg KH wrote: Ok, how about the following patch. Is it acceptable to everyone? - If you are using a distro that was released in 2006 or later, - it should be safe to say N

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-05 Thread Jeffrey Hundstad
Greg KH wrote: On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 07:59:50AM -0500, Theodore Tso wrote: Ok, how about the following patch. Is it acceptable to everyone? thanks, greg k-h --- init/Kconfig | 13 +++-- 1 file changed, 11 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) --- gregkh-2.6.orig/init/Kconfig +++

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-05 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 11:24:57AM +1100, Bron Gondwana wrote: On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 03:14:25PM -0600, Matt Mackall wrote: On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 04:46:09PM +0100, Tomasz Torcz wrote: That's not the point. The point is that Debian/unstable as of _this morning_ doesn't work. For

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-05 Thread Bron Gondwana
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 03:14:25PM -0600, Matt Mackall wrote: On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 04:46:09PM +0100, Tomasz Torcz wrote: That's not the point. The point is that Debian/unstable as of _this morning_ doesn't work. For reference, I'm running both the latest releases of both hal

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-05 Thread Theodore Tso
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 04:37:15PM -0800, Greg KH wrote: But I AM TRYING TO MAKE IT COMPATIBLE!!! That's what that config option is there for. If you happen to be running a newer userspace, a different distro than what is in Debian right now, or don't use HAL and Networkmanager, then

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-05 Thread Andrew Morton
On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 19:56:25 -0500 Theodore Tso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So the question really is are we really done making changes to sysfs, or maybe what we should do is talk about major version numbers to sysfs. Perhaps using a config option wasn't the right way to do this - a kernel boot

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-05 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 07:56:25PM -0500, Theodore Tso wrote: On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 04:37:15PM -0800, Greg KH wrote: But I AM TRYING TO MAKE IT COMPATIBLE!!! That's what that config option is there for. If you happen to be running a newer userspace, a different distro than what is in

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-05 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 05:08:49PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 19:56:25 -0500 Theodore Tso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So the question really is are we really done making changes to sysfs, or maybe what we should do is talk about major version numbers to sysfs. Perhaps

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-05 Thread Andrew Morton
On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 17:17:09 -0800 Greg KH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 05:08:49PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 19:56:25 -0500 Theodore Tso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So the question really is are we really done making changes to sysfs, or maybe

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-05 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 02:39:00PM -0800, Greg KH wrote: Ok, I only named HAL as that is what people have told me the problem is. I have been running this change on my boxs, without CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED since last July or so. But I don't use NetworkManager here for the most part, but I

Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-04 Thread Matt Mackall
Recent kernels are having troubles with wireless for me. Two seemingly related problems: a) NetworkManager seems oblivious to the existence of my IPW2200 b) Manual iwconfig waits for 60s and then reports: Error for wireless request Set Encode (8B2A) : SET failed on device eth1 ; Operation

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-04 Thread Johannes Berg
[adding linux-wireless to CC] On Sun, 2007-03-04 at 16:08 -0600, Matt Mackall wrote: Recent kernels are having troubles with wireless for me. Two seemingly related problems: I don't think they are related actually. a) NetworkManager seems oblivious to the existence of my IPW2200 This is due

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-04 Thread Matt Mackall
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 12:39:24AM +0100, Johannes Berg wrote: [adding linux-wireless to CC] On Sun, 2007-03-04 at 16:08 -0600, Matt Mackall wrote: Recent kernels are having troubles with wireless for me. Two seemingly related problems: I don't think they are related actually. a)

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-04 Thread Ian McDonald
On 3/5/07, Matt Mackall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is due to the recent sysfs restructuring I think. IIRC the fix is to upgrade hal to a current git version. If that's the cause, the fix is to back out whatever was done to break userspace. Breaking userspace is not ok. Upgrading from 2.6.x

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-04 Thread Andrew Morton
On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 18:25:50 -0600 Matt Mackall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 12:39:24AM +0100, Johannes Berg wrote: [adding linux-wireless to CC] On Sun, 2007-03-04 at 16:08 -0600, Matt Mackall wrote: Recent kernels are having troubles with wireless for me. Two

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-04 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 04:45:25PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 18:25:50 -0600 Matt Mackall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 12:39:24AM +0100, Johannes Berg wrote: [adding linux-wireless to CC] On Sun, 2007-03-04 at 16:08 -0600, Matt Mackall wrote:

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-04 Thread Greg KH
On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 04:08:57PM -0600, Matt Mackall wrote: Recent kernels are having troubles with wireless for me. Two seemingly related problems: a) NetworkManager seems oblivious to the existence of my IPW2200 b) Manual iwconfig waits for 60s and then reports: Error for wireless

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-04 Thread Greg KH
On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 06:25:50PM -0600, Matt Mackall wrote: On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 12:39:24AM +0100, Johannes Berg wrote: [adding linux-wireless to CC] On Sun, 2007-03-04 at 16:08 -0600, Matt Mackall wrote: Recent kernels are having troubles with wireless for me. Two seemingly

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-04 Thread Matt Mackall
On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 05:16:25PM -0800, Greg KH wrote: On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 04:08:57PM -0600, Matt Mackall wrote: Recent kernels are having troubles with wireless for me. Two seemingly related problems: a) NetworkManager seems oblivious to the existence of my IPW2200 b) Manual

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-04 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 12:42:29AM -0600, Matt Mackall wrote: On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 05:16:25PM -0800, Greg KH wrote: On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 04:08:57PM -0600, Matt Mackall wrote: Recent kernels are having troubles with wireless for me. Two seemingly related problems: a)

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-04 Thread Matt Mackall
On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 11:02:48PM -0800, Greg KH wrote: On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 12:42:29AM -0600, Matt Mackall wrote: On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 05:16:25PM -0800, Greg KH wrote: On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 04:08:57PM -0600, Matt Mackall wrote: Recent kernels are having troubles with wireless