[netsurf-users] Re: 6696 fails to start on RISC OS

2024-04-28 Thread Paul Stewart
In message <5b53b78dd7...@npost.uk> Chris Newman wrote: > 6697 works happily on my FAST Pi Compute Module 4 RISC OS 5.29 Also working fine here on my A9home RISC OS 4.39 Regards Paul Stewart

[netsurf-users] Re: 6696 fails to start on RISC OS

2024-04-20 Thread Chris Newman
In article , John-Mark Bell wrote: > On 20/04/2024 12:32, Chris Newman wrote: > > In article <5b53b78dd7...@npost.uk>, Chris Newman > > > >> I looked inside the !System that came with the download. There is no > >> Socketwatch in the 310 modules directory so I added 0.07 manually. > >> Made

[netsurf-users] Re: 6696 fails to start on RISC OS

2024-04-20 Thread John-Mark Bell
On 20/04/2024 12:32, Chris Newman wrote: In article <5b53b78dd7...@npost.uk>, Chris Newman wrote: I looked inside the !System that came with the download. There is no Socketwatch in the 310 modules directory so I added 0.07 manually. Made no difference. The SocketWatch changes have

[netsurf-users] Re: 6696 fails to start on RISC OS

2024-04-20 Thread Chris Newman
In article <5b53b78dd7...@npost.uk>, Chris Newman wrote: > > 6696 has an updated SockWatch module. Have you merged the !System in > > the zip with your own? > 6697 works happily on my FAST Pi Compute Module 4 RISC OS 5.29 > On Virtual Acorn Adjust 4.39 Windows 10 Acer netbook > It

[netsurf-users] Re: 6696 fails to start on RISC OS

2024-04-18 Thread Chris Newman
In article <5b4c526636li...@torrens.org>, Richard Torrens (lists) wrote: > In article <5b4c408979...@mightyoak.org.uk>, >Bob Latham wrote: > > Latest development version 6696 fails to start on RISC OS. > > Immediate error: > > "Still watching sockets; can't be killed yet." > > A machine

[netsurf-users] Re: 6696 fails to start on RISC OS

2024-04-13 Thread Chris Newman
In article <5b504a7c4fnetsurf-users-...@aconet.nl>, Frank de Bruijn wrote: > On 11 Apr, Chris Newman wrote: > > I ran the !ModInst from the 0.07 download but got an undefined > > instruction error > Not surprising. !ModInst appears to have a more than two decades old > !RunImage. It was a

[netsurf-users] Re: 6696 fails to start on RISC OS

2024-04-12 Thread Frank de Bruijn
On 11 Apr, Chris Newman wrote: > I ran the !ModInst from the 0.07 download but got an undefined > instruction error Not surprising. !ModInst appears to have a more than two decades old !RunImage. It was a useful tool at the time, but I should really remove it and switch to using the OS's System

[netsurf-users] Re: 6696 fails to start on RISC OS

2024-04-11 Thread Chris Newman
In article <5b500541e6d...@triffid.co.uk>, Dave wrote: > In article <5b4ff405ca...@npost.uk>, Chris Newman wrote: > > In article <5b4d8b51fbnets...@avisoft.f9.co.uk>, Martin Avison > > wrote: > > > > > The correct way is that the latest version should be used > > > everywhere, and the old

[netsurf-users] Re: 6696 fails to start on RISC OS

2024-04-11 Thread Dave
In article <5b4ff405ca...@npost.uk>, Chris Newman wrote: > In article <5b4d8b51fbnets...@avisoft.f9.co.uk>, Martin Avison > wrote: > > > The correct way is that the latest version should be used everywhere, > > and the old ones removed (as long as the later fixed version has no > >

[netsurf-users] Re: 6696 fails to start on RISC OS

2024-04-11 Thread Chris Newman
In article <5b4d8b51fbnets...@avisoft.f9.co.uk>, Martin Avison wrote: > The correct way is that the latest version should be used everywhere, > and the old ones removed (as long as the later fixed version has no > incompatible API changes). > Please see the long list of changes made since

[netsurf-users] Re: 6696 fails to start on RISC OS

2024-04-07 Thread lists
I have just sent this email to Andrew Rawnsley drawing his attention to the problem - Hi Andrew, The hardwired SockWatch in !Uniprint is causing errors and will prevent it using updated SockWatch modules when they are

[netsurf-users] Re: 6696 fails to start on RISC OS

2024-04-06 Thread Martin Avison
In article <0650874d5b.j...@rickman.argonet.co.uk>, John Rickman wrote: > In message > Rob Kendrick wrote: > > My /guess/ is that SocketWatch (or similar) is running via an > > application launched at boot and it is an earlier version than > > NetSurf requires, so NetSurf's !Run's

[netsurf-users] Re: 6696 fails to start on RISC OS

2024-04-06 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Sat, Apr 06, 2024 at 10:22:54PM +0100, John Rickman wrote: > At last nights RISC OS coding zoom meeting there was discussion of this > SocketWatch issue and I was asked to write to this list seeking some > information. We looked at the change log for v0.07 and tested the latest > NetSurf

[netsurf-users] Re: 6696 fails to start on RISC OS

2024-04-06 Thread John Rickman
In message Rob Kendrick wrote: > My /guess/ is that SocketWatch (or similar) is running via an > application launched at boot and it is an earlier version than NetSurf > requires, so NetSurf's !Run's RMEnsure tries to replace it with a newer > version? At last nights RISC OS coding

[netsurf-users] Re: 6696 fails to start on RISC OS

2024-04-05 Thread John Harrison
On 05 Apr, David Higton wrote: > > If you do the recommended SysMerge with the !System supplied in the > > Netsurf development download, the latest SockWatch module will be > > placed in: Boot:Resources.!System.310.Modules.Network I always to the merge but the last version I downloaded was

[netsurf-users] Re: 6696 fails to start on RISC OS

2024-04-05 Thread David Higton
In message <57b8cf4c5b.boase@bernard> bern...@boase.myzen.co.uk wrote: > On 5 Apr 2024, j...@jaharrison.me.uk wrote: > > > I have nothing at: System:Modules.Network.SockWatch. The only copy is > > the one inside Hermes. There isn't even a: System:Modules.Network > > directory.

[netsurf-users] Re: 6696 fails to start on RISC OS

2024-04-05 Thread bernard
On 5 Apr 2024, j...@jaharrison.me.uk wrote: > I have nothing at: System:Modules.Network.SockWatch. The only copy is > the one inside Hermes. There isn't even a: System:Modules.Network > directory. Should I be worried? If you do the recommended SysMerge with the !System supplied in the

[netsurf-users] Re: 6696 fails to start on RISC OS

2024-04-05 Thread Dave
In article <5b4cc7c00c...@mightyoak.org.uk>, Bob Latham wrote: > In article <5b4cbd5005d...@triffid.co.uk>, >Dave wrote: > > I fixed it here by changing the Uniserver and Hermes !Run file > > "RMEnsure SocketWatch" entries to point to > > System:Modules.Network.SockWatch instead of their

[netsurf-users] Re: 6696 fails to start on RISC OS

2024-04-05 Thread David Higton
In message <5b4cca8189j...@jaharrison.me.uk> John Harrison wrote: > I have nothing at: System:Modules.Network.SockWatch. The only copy is > the one inside Hermes. There isn't even a: System:Modules.Network > directory. Should I be worried? > > RO 5.29 (15 February 21) > IPv6 (25

[netsurf-users] Re: 6696 fails to start on RISC OS

2024-04-05 Thread lists
In article <5b4cba41f5d...@triffid.co.uk>, Dave wrote: > If it's of any use to anyone else, on the RISC OS 6.20 install here, > there are three occurrences of "SockWatch". > ..$.!Boot.Choices.Users.Single.Boot.PreDesk.!UniPrint.SockWatch >

[netsurf-users] Re: 6696 fails to start on RISC OS

2024-04-05 Thread John Harrison
In article <5b4cbd5005d...@triffid.co.uk>, Dave wrote: > I fixed it here by changing the Uniserver and Hermes !Run file > "RMEnsure SocketWatch" entries to point to > System:Modules.Network.SockWatch instead of their own internal > SockWatch modules. I have nothing at:

[netsurf-users] Re: 6696 fails to start on RISC OS

2024-04-05 Thread John Harrison
In article <5b4cba41f5d...@triffid.co.uk>, Dave wrote: > > !Locate will happily look for ... > Ah Yes, I'd forgotten about that app, ... It's extremely useful, and flexible. I use it a lot. Thanks to Steve for producing it. -- John Harrison Website http://jaharrison.me.uk Using 4té and

[netsurf-users] Re: 6696 fails to start on RISC OS

2024-04-05 Thread Bob Latham
In article <5b4cbd5005d...@triffid.co.uk>, Dave wrote: > I fixed it here by changing the Uniserver and Hermes !Run file > "RMEnsure SocketWatch" entries to point to > System:Modules.Network.SockWatch instead of their own internal > SockWatch modules. Yes, that is a sensible way to do it but

[netsurf-users] Re: 6696 fails to start on RISC OS

2024-04-05 Thread Dave
In article <5b4cba41f5d...@triffid.co.uk>, Dave wrote: [Snippy] > If it's of any use to anyone else, on the RISC OS 6.20 install here, > there are three occurrences of "SockWatch". > ..$.!Boot.Choices.Users.Single.Boot.PreDesk.!UniPrint.SockWatch >

[netsurf-users] Re: 6696 fails to start on RISC OS

2024-04-05 Thread Dave
In article <5b4c7d5616nets...@avisoft.f9.co.uk>, Martin Avison wrote: > In article <5b4c7ad502d...@triffid.co.uk>, >Dave wrote: > > Begs a question, how does one go about finding any other apps that > > are loading/using that old module? > !Locate will happily look for instances of a

[netsurf-users] Re: 6696 fails to start on RISC OS

2024-04-04 Thread Dave
In article <5b4c6d1356d...@triffid.co.uk>, Dave wrote: > In article <5b4c616f4d...@mightyoak.org.uk>, >Bob Latham wrote: > > In article <5b4c526636li...@torrens.org>, > >Richard Torrens (lists) wrote: > > > In article <5b4c408979...@mightyoak.org.uk>, > > >Bob Latham wrote: > >

[netsurf-users] Re: 6696 fails to start on RISC OS

2024-04-04 Thread Martin Avison
In article <5b4c7ad502d...@triffid.co.uk>, Dave wrote: > Begs a question, how does one go about finding any other apps that > are loading/using that old module? !Locate will happily look for instances of a file in a directory ... which could be the whole disc if you want. Most useful for

[netsurf-users] Re: 6696 fails to start on RISC OS

2024-04-04 Thread Dave
In article <5b4c616f4d...@mightyoak.org.uk>, Bob Latham wrote: > In article <5b4c526636li...@torrens.org>, >Richard Torrens (lists) wrote: > > In article <5b4c408979...@mightyoak.org.uk>, > >Bob Latham wrote: > > > Latest development version 6696 fails to start on RISC OS. > > >

[netsurf-users] Re: 6696 fails to start on RISC OS

2024-04-04 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 04:52:58PM +0100, Bob Latham wrote: > Yes, but an earlier socket is loaded by both UniPrint and Hermes from > within the applications, there may be more. This is a bug in UniPrint and Hermes: the reason we have the System Merge tool is to prevent this exact situation: apps

[netsurf-users] Re: 6696 fails to start on RISC OS

2024-04-04 Thread Bob Latham
In article <5b4c526636li...@torrens.org>, Richard Torrens (lists) wrote: > In article <5b4c408979...@mightyoak.org.uk>, >Bob Latham wrote: > > Latest development version 6696 fails to start on RISC OS. > > Immediate error: > > "Still watching sockets; can't be killed yet." > > A machine

[netsurf-users] Re: 6696 fails to start on RISC OS

2024-04-04 Thread Bob Latham
On 04 Apr, David Higton wrote: > In message > Rob Kendrick wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 10:53:38AM +0100, Bob Latham wrote: > > > Latest development version 6696 fails to start on RISC OS. > > > > > > Immediate error: "Still watching sockets; can't be killed yet." > > > > > >

[netsurf-users] Re: 6696 fails to start on RISC OS

2024-04-04 Thread Richard Torrens (lists)
In article <5b4c408979...@mightyoak.org.uk>, Bob Latham wrote: > Latest development version 6696 fails to start on RISC OS. > Immediate error: > "Still watching sockets; can't be killed yet." > A machine re-boot does not change this. > Bob. 6696 has an updated SockWatch module. Have you

[netsurf-users] Re: 6696 fails to start on RISC OS

2024-04-04 Thread David Higton
In message Rob Kendrick wrote: > On Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 10:53:38AM +0100, Bob Latham wrote: > > Latest development version 6696 fails to start on RISC OS. > > > > Immediate error: "Still watching sockets; can't be killed yet." > > > > A machine re-boot does not change this. > > My

[netsurf-users] Re: 6696 fails to start on RISC OS

2024-04-04 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 10:53:38AM +0100, Bob Latham wrote: > Latest development version 6696 fails to start on RISC OS. > > Immediate error: > "Still watching sockets; can't be killed yet." > > A machine re-boot does not change this. My /guess/ is that SocketWatch (or similar) is running via