Re: why is it so quiet (in the US)

2020-11-15 Thread Michael Goldhaber
It’s hard to think of any actual, successful military coups or anything similar except in Africa anytime recently. Certainly not in any country remotely as “advanced” and complex as the US. However, The Republican party has certainly been high methodical and quite successful in setting the

Re: why is it so quiet (in the US)

2020-11-15 Thread tbyfield
"Words have meanings" is one of those sayings that needs to go away. It sounds so sure, so blunt, but it obscures so very much. Yes, words have meanings: they have lots of meanings, many of them ambiguous or contrary, and those meanings change to keep pace with historical circumstances. This

Re: why is it so quiet (in the US)

2020-11-15 Thread Molly Hankwitz
Dear Steven, I would disagree! If Trump is capable of getting the military on his side (which is unlikely) - and he has tried to some extent in post-election installment of his loyalists in the Pentagon, firing of Sect of Defense, etc. then this mentality/intention seems to me to be in line with

Re: why is it so quiet (in the US)

2020-11-15 Thread Kurtz, Steven
Interesting perspective Ted, but I can’t call the examples you cite a coup. The use of political power to reorganize institutions to better solidify a person’s or party’s advantage or even to gain a political monopoly is most of what politics is. Machine politics or the attempt to build a

Re: why is it so quiet (in the US)

2020-11-15 Thread Alexander Karschnia
Interestingly, the best articles on this situation came from one researcher of stalinism, Anne Applebaum in the Atlantic and one historian of the holocaust, Timothy Snyder in the Boston Globe. While the first reminded us that Trump's political career began with spreading the "birther myth" to

Re: why is it so quiet (in the US)

2020-11-15 Thread tbyfield
If there will be no coup, Steven, that's because there already was one. But let me explain. Debates about a "coup" in the US are useless, because they're bogged down in endless anticipatory "post hoc ergo propter hoc" arguments ("after this therefore because of this," just before *this*