On Wednesday 24 March 2004 02:41 am, Charlie wrote:
On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 05:42 pm, many eyes viewed Marc's words:-
On Tuesday 23 March 2004 10:03 am, William Warren wrote:
just from this post..it works with windows and not with
Linux..Bioses can be tied to windows and as part of the MS
On Tuesday 23 March 2004 09:05 pm, Lee Wiggers wrote:
On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 21:24:41 -0500
Carroll Grigsby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tuesday 23 March 2004 11:03 am, William Warren wrote:
just from this post..it works with windows and not with
Linux..Bioses can be tied to windows and as
Well, first thing, what chipset is it?
what northbridge/southbridge chips..
Start by comparing that to existing intel boards..
find out if intel has any docs on those boards and linux on their site..
just a thought.
rgds
Franki
Marc wrote:
On Tuesday 23 March 2004 09:05 pm, Lee Wiggers wrote:
Marc wrote:
I suspect that if I dig around the Intel web site that I may find one to work. Even though the information at the intel web site says that if it is a board that they made for a OEM they will offer NO support.
Marc
Seems like your best chance.
Odds on bet that Intel know about
On Tuesday 23 Mar 2004 5:42 pm, Marc wrote:
My views are based on the fact that the Maxtor diagnostic software
says that the hard drive suppled by Gateway is not properly supported
by the BIOS on the mother board suppled BY gateway.
My guess is that the BIOS works well enough to pull in the
I had the same problem with a friend of mine who wanted to try Linux. I
also had a spare harddrive that had linux already on it. We took his
out and put mine in and it would start to boot and then just stall.
Couldn't get into the BIOS at all. We put his old disk in and it was
recongized
just from this post..it works with windows and not with Linux..Bioses
can be tied to windows and as part of the MS OEM license that is what
most large computer vendors do to get the rock bottom pricing on
windows. Gateway only supports windows and they do not and will not
support Linux on
On Tuesday 23 March 2004 07:47 am, Marc wrote:
I had the same problem with a friend of mine who wanted to try Linux. I
also had a spare harddrive that had linux already on it. We took his
out and put mine in and it would start to boot and then just stall.
Couldn't get into the BIOS at
On Tuesday 23 March 2004 10:03 am, William Warren wrote:
just from this post..it works with windows and not with Linux..Bioses
can be tied to windows and as part of the MS OEM license that is what
most large computer vendors do to get the rock bottom pricing on
windows. Gateway only supports
On Tuesday 23 March 2004 10:08 am, Aron Smith wrote:
Also if the system that you are talking about Moureen is about 3 years
old Gateway could have a BIG problem here, possibly a class action law
suit. If they want to sell third rate hardware to customers that do not
know any better
Marc wrote:
Gateway could have a BIG problem here, possibly a class action law suit.
It's about the only arguement you have, maybe a class action is
possible, since in effect it's a restrictive practice bound to result in
eliminating outsiders, but who will sue Gateway ? Costs millions, and
the only time you get the error is when trying linux from what i can
tell..which as i stated before is not supported by gateway. No analogy
is going to convince a judge otherwise. you can try this court case but
i do not think you are going to get anywhere..just my .02
Marc wrote:
On Tuesday
William Warren stated:
the only time you get the error is when trying linux from what i can
tell..which as i stated before is not supported by gateway.
A point to note here; when Gateway says that third-party software is not
supported, it simply means that they will not provide technical
On Tuesday 23 March 2004 11:03 am, William Warren wrote:
just from this post..it works with windows and not with Linux..Bioses
can be tied to windows and as part of the MS OEM license that is what
most large computer vendors do to get the rock bottom pricing on
windows. Gateway only supports
On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 21:24:41 -0500
Carroll Grigsby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tuesday 23 March 2004 11:03 am, William Warren wrote:
just from this post..it works with windows and not with
Linux..Bioses can be tied to windows and as part of the MS OEM
license that is what most large
Lee Wiggers wrote:
On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 22:27:26 -0800
Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sunday 21 March 2004 09:42 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 14:02, Aron Smith wrote:
Thanks for jumping on this before I had a conniption.
that anything like a Walalaby?
WALLABY.
Great
anton wrote:
Lee Wiggers wrote:
may they all die, like all furry aussie animals destroying NZs beautiful
and unique nature!
Anton the kiwi who won't be for much longer...
ps. Yes, we do have them, what's more, we have/had a species that is
extinct in Aussie! And we graciously gave them to
On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 20:55, anton wrote:
may they all die, like all furry aussie animals destroying NZs beautiful
and unique nature!
Anton the kiwi who won't be for much longer...
ps. Yes, we do have them, what's more, we have/had a species that is
extinct in Aussie! And we graciously
Marc wrote:
On Saturday 20 March 2004 05:27 pm, bascule wrote:
it would be interesting to know the results of putting the gateway hard
drive in a 'normal' machine and putting a 'normal' hard drive in the
gateway machine
bascule
Been there done that. I had to put the Gateway HDD in a
On Saturday 20 March 2004 10:31 pm, Aron Smith wrote:
On Saturday 20 March 2004 03:27 pm, bascule wrote:
it would be interesting to know the results of putting the gateway hard
drive in a 'normal' machine and putting a 'normal' hard drive in the
gateway machine
Two screwed-up Machines?
On Saturday 20 March 2004 05:09 pm, Marc wrote:
On Saturday 20 March 2004 04:36 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
No I have not tried a tool like partition majic but I
dont think the problem is a hidden partition due to the
fact that the same problem happened with a fresh NEW HDD as
soon as
On Saturday 20 March 2004 08:10 pm, Marc wrote:
It seems to me like something has been done to the bios in
the Gateway to make it NOT recognize any HDD with Linux
installed on it.
Quite possible, but I don't think it's a anti-Linux
conspiracy. More likely the board/bios is spec'd to
First of all, Win XP may not be the problem. His problem might be the
fact that it's a Gateway PC. I run a number of computers, and a mac.
I have XP on one, MD9.2 on this one XD2 or another one, so I see it from
all different sides. XP isn't all bad. It has it's pros and cons just
like linux and
On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 08:52:09 -0600
bmobile40 disseminated the following:
First of all,
...and second of all, could you please unset your reply-to?
http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette
--
JoeHill
Registered Linux user #282046
Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org
Hi,
I've been following this thread with interest. I just upped to LM10. It almost
seemed too easy. I use it on a Dell laptop (inspiron).
I don't remember if there was an option to write the bootloader to different
locations like in 9.2, 9.1 etc but I was wondering if the bootloader has to
be
On Sunday 21 March 2004 07:49 am, Tom Brinkman wrote:
http://computer.howstuffworks.com/hard-disk.htm Y'all might
wanna bookmark this site. The explainations are human readable ;)
I was gonna stay out of this because I only have negative
sentiments for _any_ ready made for Windoze
Hello Marc,
Sunday, March 21, 2004, 5:17:18 AM, you wrote:
M If I then Reformat the drive using Maxblast and a win 98 floppy then
M reinstall the HDD in the Gateway machine the gateway machine will be able to
M detect it correctly and load windoze back on it and run just fine, but if ML
M is
On Sunday 21 March 2004 01:43 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 02:40, JoeHill wrote:
On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 08:52:09 -0600
bmobile40 disseminated the following:
but in fairness to MS, If everyone was running linux, then all the
scumbags out there would be writing viruses for
On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 14:02, Aron Smith wrote:
Thanks for jumping on this before I had a conniption.
that anything like a Walalaby?
WALLABY.
Great Ceasar - y'all cain't spell for the life of ya!
Wallabies don't jump, they hop. They're also very gentle unless
provoked. They way small than a
On Sunday 21 March 2004 09:42 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 14:02, Aron Smith wrote:
Thanks for jumping on this before I had a conniption.
that anything like a Walalaby?
WALLABY.
Great Ceasar - y'all cain't spell for the life of ya!
Wallabies don't jump, they hop.
On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 22:27:26 -0800
Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sunday 21 March 2004 09:42 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 14:02, Aron Smith wrote:
Thanks for jumping on this before I had a conniption.
that anything like a Walalaby?
WALLABY.
Great Ceasar
On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 17:27, Aron Smith wrote:
I couldn't spell kola either ;-)
KO ALA
KOALA
...and they might be cute and cuddly to YANKS, but in reality, even
though they a very slow marsupial, they're actually quite mean - take a
very close look at their talons...they can scratch the shit
On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 17:41, Lee Wiggers wrote:
The drink or the teddy bear?
Lee
If someone made a drink they're probably a yank.
stephen kuhn - owner
==
illawarra computer services
a kuhn media australia company
http://kma.0catch.com
A few days ago one of my neighbors asked me if it was possible to install
Linux on his computer. Up until about 3 months ago he had a older computer
with win 98 installed on it. He thought that win 98 was a disaster at best,
he listened to all the advertising and thought that Windoze
On Saturday 20 March 2004 02:28 pm, Marc wrote:
snipped
If this is the kind of bull $hit game that Gateway wants to play may I
suggest that anyone that reads this start to boycott them.
Don't sugarcoat it, tell us how you really feel.
--
Bryan Phinney
Software Test Engineer
Want to buy
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On Saturday 20 March 2004 19:28, Marc wrote:
Ahh well enough of a rant for now.
Marc, did you try any of the partitioning tools - Partition Magic, or
the like? If it's a hidden partition causing the problem you could
probably get rid of it
On Saturday 20 March 2004 01:53 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Saturday 20 March 2004 19:28, Marc wrote:
Ahh well enough of a rant for now.
Marc, did you try any of the partitioning tools - Partition Magic, or
the like? If it's a hidden partition causing the problem you could
probably get
My Mom has a gateway from about 4 years ago. It came with Windows 98. I have
gotten Linux to run on it fine, but to share your griefThere is NO FAN on
the processor...Which is a celeron...Nice huh? After 20 minutes of being on
you can feel the warmth from it...The power supply has a fan,
On Saturday 20 March 2004 02:53 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
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On Saturday 20 March 2004 19:28, Marc wrote:
Ahh well enough of a rant for now.
Marc, did you try any of the partitioning tools - Partition Magic, or
the like? If it's a hidden
Marc wrote:
No I have not tried a tool like partition majic but I dont think the problem is a hidden partition due to the fact that the same problem happened with a fresh NEW HDD as soon as something non microsux was written to the HDD the bios could no longer see the HDD and after the drive
On Saturday 20 March 2004 02:55 pm, Allen/Gore/SlackWareWolf wrote:
My Mom has a gateway from about 4 years ago. It came with Windows 98. I
have gotten Linux to run on it fine, but to share your griefThere is NO
FAN on the processor...Which is a celeron...Nice huh? After 20 minutes of
On Saturday 20 March 2004 02:55 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
Marc wrote:
No I have not tried a tool like partition majic but I dont think the
problem is a hidden partition due to the fact that the same problem
happened with a fresh NEW HDD as soon as something non microsux was
written
Marc wrote:
On Saturday 20 March 2004 02:55 pm, John Richard Smith wrote:
Marc wrote:
Maybe the problem is your bios needs upgrading ?
John
Thats what I thought also but first something with bios that screwed up should have never been shiped and second the owner of the machine
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On Saturday 20 March 2004 20:00, Marc wrote:
On Saturday 20 March 2004 01:53 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Saturday 20 March 2004 19:28, Marc wrote:
Ahh well enough of a rant for now.
Marc, did you try any of the partitioning tools -
On Saturday 20 March 2004 04:36 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
No I have not tried a tool like partition majic but I dont think
the problem is a hidden partition due to the fact that the same
problem happened with a fresh NEW HDD as soon as something non
microsux was written to the HDD the
Marc wrote:
I also had a gateway some time ago, I sold it to a friend about 3 years
ago. I think it was probably one of the last decent machines gateway made. It
had a full mid tower case that was made well. A real graphics card as well as
a creative labs soundblaster sound card. It even
Marc wrote:
Thats what I thought also but first something with bios that screwed up
should have never been shiped and second the owner of the machine is
concerned with warrenty issues that a bios upgrade could cause. This machine
is only a few months old.
IMHO a person should not have to
My wife has a Solo 5300 that we bought a year ago refurbed. The first
one got damaged in shipping..but Gateway replaced it withou
problem..since then it has been rock solid..even better than the desktop
i once had.
frankieh wrote:
Marc wrote:
I also had a gateway some time ago, I sold
Marc wrote:
Been there done that. I had to put the Gateway HDD in a different
machine
to format it with a windoze disk before the gateway would recognize it again.
The other machine reconized it right away and actually booted right on to the
Linux installation on the HDD that I had
I don't know how well it would work, but I used to use the nt bootloader
to dual boot windows and linux. Maybe you could add just the nt boot
stuff on a small partition and then have the nt bootloader send you over
to lilo -- just a thought YMMV.
On Sat, 2004-03-20 at 18:10, Marc wrote:
On
On Saturday 20 March 2004 03:27 pm, bascule wrote:
it would be interesting to know the results of putting the gateway hard
drive in a 'normal' machine and putting a 'normal' hard drive in the
gateway machine
Two screwed-up Machines?
bascule
On Saturday 20 Mar 2004 11:09 pm, Marc wrote:
Marc wrote:
Been there done that. I had to put the Gateway HDD in a different machine to format it with a windoze disk before the gateway would recognize it again.
The other machine reconized it right away and actually booted right on to the Linux installation on the HDD that I had removed
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