Re: [OSM-newbies] canals/quays/pontoons

2009-09-11 Thread osmlists
David F. wrote: Would man_made=pier be of use to you both? Example: http://osm.org/go/euu4iXBqj-- Having looked at the wiki, perhaps pier does fit best - certainly would seem to match the International Hydrographic Organization's definition, even though it doesn't fit my own layman's

Re: [OSM-newbies] canals/quays/pontoons

2009-09-11 Thread Dave F.
osmli...@dellams.fastmail.fm wrote: David F. wrote: Would man_made=pier be of use to you both? Example: http://osm.org/go/euu4iXBqj-- Having looked at the wiki, perhaps pier does fit best - certainly would seem to match the International Hydrographic Organization's definition,

Re: [OSM-newbies] Stiles

2009-09-11 Thread Dave F.
Philip Striplin wrote: I don't know how common this is, globally, but in this area we have three sorts of stile on footpaths. Type 1 is a simple step-over arrangements with a plank of wood providing a step about 50cm above the ground. Type 2 is the same as type 1 with the addition of a

Re: [OSM-newbies] canals/quays/pontoons

2009-09-11 Thread osmlists
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 12:05 +0100, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: For this area I've used Dock A dock is an '*enclosed'* area of water used for loading, unloading, building or repairing ships For ships read barges. In this case, the area of water is not enclosed, and is used for

Re: [OSM-newbies] Stiles

2009-09-11 Thread Philip Striplin
Dave F. wrote: Philip Striplin wrote: I don't know how common this is, globally, but in this area we have three sorts of stile on footpaths. Type 1 is a simple step-over arrangements with a plank of wood providing a step about 50cm above the ground. Type 2 is the same as type 1 with

Re: [OSM-newbies] Tagging open rambling land

2009-09-11 Thread Dan Karran
2009/9/10 Craig Wallace craig...@fastmail.fm: On 10/09/2009 22:29, Dan Karran wrote: I've got a question about tagging... The area[1] in the middle of the Isle of Man has a large amount of rambling land that's open to the public, I think covered mostly with heather, gorse and other sorts of

Re: [OSM-newbies] canals/quays/pontoons

2009-09-11 Thread Dave F.
osmli...@dellams.fastmail.fm wrote: On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 12:05 +0100, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: For this area I've used Dock A dock is an '*enclosed'* area of water used for loading, unloading, building or repairing ships For ships read barges. In this case, the area

Re: [OSM-newbies] Stiles

2009-09-11 Thread Someoneelse
Philip Striplin wrote: I don't know how common this is, globally, but in this area we have three sorts of stile on footpaths. Type 1 is a simple step-over arrangements with a plank of wood providing a step about 50cm above the ground. Type 2 is the same as type 1 with the addition of a

Re: [OSM-newbies] Stiles

2009-09-11 Thread Craig Wallace
On 11/09/2009 11:37, Philip Striplin wrote: The different styles of stiles do have real implications for ease of use of the path (have you ever tried heaving 30kg of dog over a stile, or a bike over one of the big stiles?) and I think would be useful to show on the map. Is there a standard

Re: [OSM-newbies] canals/quays/pontoons

2009-09-11 Thread David Ellams
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 12:38 +0100, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: osmli...@dellams.fastmail.fm wrote: On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 12:05 +0100, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: A dock is an '*enclosed'* area of water used for loading, unloading, building or repairing ships For

[OSM-newbies] more canals

2009-09-11 Thread Bill Condie
Sorry to keep banging on about canals, everyone must be sick of them, but I have a big interest in the subject as I have hundreds of miles of them in Thailand. Problem is, most are irrigations trenches - some man made - from very big to very small. Most aren't canals in the sense of

Re: [OSM-newbies] more canals

2009-09-11 Thread Dave F.
Bill Condie wrote: Sorry to keep banging on about canals, everyone must be sick of them, but I have a big interest in the subject as I have hundreds of miles of them in Thailand. Problem is, most are irrigations trenches - some man made - from very big to very small. Most aren't canals

Re: [OSM-newbies] Tagging open rambling land

2009-09-11 Thread Dan Karran
2009/9/11 Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com: How many times do you have to be told?  Don't... ;-) I know, I know ;) How an area can be described as an AONB when Jeremy Clarkson lives there is beyond me! Heh. Funny you should bring up Jeremy Clarkson in a thread about open land... he's closed

Re: [OSM-newbies] Stiles

2009-09-11 Thread David Ellams
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 12:16 +0100, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: Philip Striplin wrote: I don't know how common this is, globally, but in this area we have three sorts of stile on footpaths. Type 1 is a simple step-over arrangements with a plank of wood providing a step about

Re: [OSM-newbies] cycle map rendering

2009-09-11 Thread Thomas Meller
Hello Dave, your definition is very specific. I don't know the situation in UK, in Germany and Switzerland, paths and ways do not need an explicit permission to be used by cyclists. So the logic would be back-forward. If a path or way is not tagged highway=footpath or highway=path +

[OSM-newbies] khlongs

2009-09-11 Thread Bill Condie
Thanks Dave, yes I'm using width but not the boat option and that makes sense. Actually I've also used the drain for the smaller purely irrigation stuff, too, but you have to be careful because it sometimes looks more accurate on the render but isn't in reality. These features are quite

Re: [OSM-newbies] cycle map rendering

2009-09-11 Thread Alex Mauer
On 09/11/2009 06:46 AM, Dave Stubbs wrote: You can see how this blows up out of any maintainability quite quickly, Definitely. But still, even a generic *something* for path (to be then highlighted with the blue border (from cycleway=*?) would be nicer than showing nothing at all.

Re: [OSM-newbies] Questions about adding cycling paths in Moscow

2009-09-11 Thread Alex Mauer
On 09/11/2009 09:00 AM, Brian S. Boon wrote: 1.The route is essentially a large sidewalk for most of the way. It is shared daily by pedestrians, cyclists, and rollerbladers, although technically, I'm pretty sure that it's just a sidewalk, and not a multi-use pathway. Is it OK to label

Re: [OSM-newbies] Questions about adding cycling paths in Moscow

2009-09-11 Thread Brian S. Boon
Alex, So, if I use bicycle=designated on an existing way, it should appear in OpenCycleMaps, and does not mean that it is exclusive to bicycles? I suppose the phrase dedicated shared use is a bit unclear. What I meant was that part of the paths are either sidewalks painted with bicycle symbols

Re: [OSM-newbies] Questions about adding cycling paths in Moscow

2009-09-11 Thread Alex Mauer
On 09/11/2009 10:03 AM, Peter Childs wrote: 2. Why doesn't the existing way show up in OpenCycleMaps? Part of the path that I'm working on (a road) was already created by someone else, and is already labeled as a way (no preset with a tags of bicycle=yes, foot=yes, highway=pedestrian, but it

Re: [OSM-newbies] Questions about adding cycling paths in Moscow

2009-09-11 Thread Brian S. Boon
Alex, Super, thanks for the help. I'll try adding the tags you've mentioned below, and I've also sent an email to the OCM website admin asking what is the proper way to get a shared use path to render in OCM (if at all). Regards, Brian -Original Message- From:

Re: [OSM-newbies] JOSM -Xmx256M

2009-09-11 Thread Claudius
Am 09.09.2009 23:22, james pruett: Hi, In JOSM, when I open california.osm, I get the error: Please add more memory. Try -Xmx###M. I always do what I am told, but these didn't seem to work. From DOS I tried: C:\WINDOWS\system32\javaws.exe -localfile C:\Documents and

Re: [OSM-newbies] cycle map rendering

2009-09-11 Thread Akkana Peck
Alex Mauer writes: As for the values, for a cycle-map I’d be inclined to not even highlight anything which has only bicycle=yes, because it would quickly overwhelm everything else – perhaps it’s different where you are, but around here all roads except motorways (and possibly a few others,

Re: [OSM-newbies] cycle map rendering

2009-09-11 Thread Alex Mauer
On 09/11/2009 03:44 PM, Akkana Peck wrote: Beyond that there should be only bicycle=designated. There is also bicycle=official, but perhaps that can be preprocessed into access=no + bicycle=designated before rendering begins? The meanings are the same... I've been following along trying

Re: [OSM-newbies] History lost following certain actions

2009-09-11 Thread Pieren
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:49 PM, Bob Hawkins bobhawk...@waitrose.com wrote: I note that in certain situations the previous history of an element is lost.  For example, I split a way in order to add different maximum speeds. Now I become the originator of those split ways and what previous