Hi all,
Usage of the newbies@openstreetmap.org mailing list, set up in 2007 to
provide help to new users, has dwindled to almost nothing. There were no
posts in September, October, November, or December.
Generally we now have better places to provide help to new users -
principally
Philip Barnes wrote:
That is madness, ask for a copy of the risk assessment.
Most canals are not as small as the UK's! Lock-gates elsewhere can be and
are much wider, especially where the gates are hydraulically operated so a
walkway can be installed on top without worrying about balance beams.
Jeff Meyer wrote:
Do any other subscribers think it's funny to see an Overpass API thread
on newbies@?
[full message quote snipped]
Quick request to Jeff and others - please snip the quoted message to the
minimum before replying.
Top-posting has become an acceptable shortcut in corporate and
Dave F. wrote:
Err... No.
It's an end user having a newbie problem using Overpass for the
first time. This is the perfect place to discuss.
When the newbies@ list was set up, its purpose was explicitly stated as:
If you have time, know a lot about OSM and want to help newbies get
Mike Thompson wrote:
Should the relation be split in two and a super relation created
containing both?
No. Super-relations create complexity both for the mapper and the data user.
There is no need to use them if you don't have to. In this case, the fact
that the two sections are disjoint can
On 11/12/2012 21:36, SomeoneElse wrote:
Sebastian Arcus wrote:
I have uploaded a bunch of gps traces as identifiable. They show up
under See your traces. However, when I click on map or edit I
can't see them on the map or in Potlatch2 editor. Am I doing something
wrong, or is there a temporary
David Litke wrote:
After making some Potlatch 2 edits, if I go to my
my edits page, I see the current changeset with
the message still editing. How do you close a changeset?
You can press C. But there's really no need to. It'll close itself after an
hour of inactivity: closing it makes
Naveen Bahatam wrote:
Please give me a link to the Thread if this question is already
answered.
http://switch2osm.org
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tile_usage_policy
cheers
Richard
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Richard Welty wrote:
likewise, Potlatch is mostly dependent on the quality of the
Flash implementation.
Yep. Windows Flash Player is faster than Mac Flash Player is faster than
Linux Flash Player, I'm afraid to say. More memory definitely helps.
cheers
Richard
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Hello all,
Because of a sudden upsurge in list traffic I've set this mailing list to
be moderated. All postings must be approved before going live.
To all our new subscribers - welcome! But please don't post unless you
actually have a question to ask.
If you have questions to ask, you can also
Alexandros Papadopoulos wrote:
What am I doing wrong?
Your GPX is badly formed and Flash's XML parser is refusing to read it.
You don't have a closing /gpx tag and there's all manner of spurious '--'
lines all over the place.
If you want to handcraft XML files like that, it's worthwhile
James Ewen wrote:
Most of the walking and bicycle trails in the city don't even
have signs on them, let alone the ones I have tracked and
added in the back country. We have paved bicycle trails
with no signage... those wouldn't pass the test.
Could I point out there is a little linguistic
James Ewen wrote:
If I center on the area of interest, and then load my GPS
trace in Potlatch 2, the trace loads, but I can not convert
the trace to a way.
Alt-click should do this (or shift/ctrl-click if you have a bonkers Linux
window manager thing that eats alt).
How can I regain the
Roger wrote:
Any advice?
What's the URL of the GPX you're using?
Richard
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James Ewen wrote:
It probably is, but I doubt I'll be doing any editing over there
any time soon... still looking for a way to not have it come
up as a default location.
Ok. Having looked into it, it's basically an issue with clicking 'edit' by a
track that hasn't been loaded into the OSM
Filipe Roque wrote:
Is there a way to Insert a point in potlatch 2 by latitude and longitude?
No. You can turn on a lat/long display in the Options dialogue, however.
cheers
Richard
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Roger wrote:
Can anyone suggest a suitable tag for these? I am using
boundary/administrative, but it doesn't seem quite
appropriate somehow, and I haven't found any standard
tags which fit better.
Please don't upload these into OSM. Please just include them in your own
rendering chain.
Roger wrote:
Don't worry, I have no intention of uploading them!
Ah, good good, sorry to misunderstand. :)
With mkgmap you should, in theory, be able to use any tag you like if you
put the appropriate entry in your 'lines' file. Something like this:
national_grid=100km [0x27 resolution
Kenneth Pardue wrote:
Can someone explain why Potlatch2 renders this area strangely,
but it is rendered correctly in Mapnik and Potlatch 1.4?
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=31.77463lon=-93.08292zoom=16layers=M
[...]
Is this a bug in Potlatch 2?
Potlatch 2 will only draw multipolygons
Pieren wrote:
I don't understand this point. You have two cases : either the tags are
the
same in all outer ways, then you can use one you already loaded. No
extra work. Or the tags are different, in which case your rendering might
be
wrong but tagging is inconsistent anyway.
No, the
Richard Moss wrote:
Have I misunderstood something?
No, your understanding is spot on. It's just that I personally think it's a
pretty dumb design, so if someone's going to code support for it in
Potlatch, that someone ain't going to be me. ;)
cheers
Richard
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Ed Hillsman wrote:
I have been using Potlatch to select points of interest and
then retrieve their latitude and longitude by typing L.
L gives you the lat and long under the mouse pointer, not of the current
selection. Your mouse is probably in a slightly different place from
previously.
john whelan wrote:
Pity when you're at the pivot point, OpenStreetMap would seem to be
a hobby map not one to run GIS type applications.
Hobby map is not the opposite of running GIS type applications.
Some of us do serious commercial stuff with maps that doesn't involve
any GIS type
Dirk-Lüder Kreie wrote:
For areas where there aren't that many roads and you are at
first travelling great distances it's quite handy to have a gpx
to osm convert function, because tracing some hundred miles
from gpx track *is* tedious.
Exactly. Urban mappers might not need to use it but
Action wrote:
I came to this list because i searched for an email-based chat with
no Spamhaus/dsbl.
This is not e-mail chat, this is a discussion list for newcomers to
OpenStreetMap who want help with the project. Please don't post if your
query isn't OpenStreetMap related - thanks.
Richard
The OS discussion is really interesting (I do mean that) but could we
take it to talk-gb, where it belongs, rather than clogging up this
list which is meant for helping OSM newbies?
Thanks.
cheers
Richard
(newbies@ admin)
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Nicholas Shanks wrote:
How do I bring such a feature to the attention of the Potlatch
or JOSM developers?
In the case of Potlatch, you don't need to, because the upcoming Potlatch 2
has a preset-based tagging system* that abstracts away the actual tags
behind a user-friendly interface. So you
ael wrote:
I sometimes see the same thing when downloading tiles. I have a linksys
BEFSX41 router, not yet upgraded to tomato or one of the open WRT
firmrwares.
I only have problems with osm sites. Any correlation with your router?
Don't think so, no. My setup is a Belkin router acting as a
ael wrote:
Yesterday I uploaded a gpx trace using firefox. There was no
response. So I tried again. As I recall, the browser declared a
timeout after waiting for a response. I tried repeatedly with the
same result. I checked the status of the servers: no problems
reported.
I get that
Kevin Ruth Sheather wrote:
The Potlatch Primer, on the subject if Working with Tracks, says the
following:
[...]
On my computer this process simply doesn't work. After clicking the
'Track' button there is no change in the appearance of the track. I
then click the track and the curser
Alexandros Papadopoulos wrote:
1. Am trying to edit
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/AlexandrosPapadopoulos/traces/609142
- why is it not automatically converted to a way when I ask potlatch
to do so, forcing me to re-trace 100+ km manually on the map?
When I click your link, I get Trace
We have a bit of a push on at the moment to eliminate duplicate nodes
- i.e. where there's erroneously two nodes in the exact same place,
which should be a single node so they're joined.
== Identifying duplicate nodes ==
Some of you will have seen Matt's map, which shows dupes and is
Dave F. wrote:
What's the 'flashing' nodes for? It appears to be for new nodes only.
Is it just to highlight that they're new or is there something else?
It's for dupe nodes. But there was a bit of a cockup on my part
earlier where newly saved ones were getting it too - ooops.
cheers
H.S.Rai wrote:
The uploaded tracks (to OSM server) do not show waypoints (POI)
when used in Potlatch. Is it possible to view POI of uploaded
tracks in Potlatch?
If you open Potlatch by clicking on edit beside the track in the 'GPS
Traces' listing, then waypoints will show up.
cheers
Alexandros Papadopoulos wrote:
Steve Bennett stevagewp at gmail.com wrote:
In Potlatch, if you click on the edit link in that URL you
pasted, you can select convert GPS track
to ways. (I haven't actually tried this though.)
...but if you then click save it says nothing to save - you
Hi all,
Could I gently suggest moving the tertiary dirt roads discussion to tagg...@?
I'm a bit anxious to keep newbies@ fairly simple for newcomers and I'm
sure the tagging@ crowd will have insights on the discussion.
cheers
Richard
(administrator of both lists, for my sins)
Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
It's also really useful to be able to
zoom into your imagery past z18 which Potlatch can't do.
I wrote a long post explaining why this was, then figured I might have a
go at seeing if it was fixable instead. So just wait for 1.3 which
should be along real soon
Hi all,
I'm pleased to announce Potlatch 1.3 - a new version with one major
improvement.
Potlatch now lets you zoom in as far as zoom level 23. Previous
versions only went up to z19, and even then with some loss of
positional accuracy.
This makes Potlatch much more suitable for tracing
John Whelan wrote:
Is it possible? I note there is a major security problem with Adobe Flash.
Er, no there isn't.
Flash is far from perfect but this alleged 'exploit' is largely
hysteria. There are three causes and none of them are the Flash Player
itself:
- Unconfigured webservers which
And so this breaks all the threading and stuff. Sorry: my excuse is that
Nabble don't index this list and, exasperatingly, don't answer e-mails.
If I had the proverbial spare hours in the day I'd write a better web
interface to it, but Potlatch 2 is kind of more important. If you think
the
Thomas Meller wrote:
agree! agree! agree!
Yes, that's exactly what I am missing.
Render the motorways grey if you like
render primary roads white if you like
render footpaths in a light color if you like
render paths as thin black lines if you like
But render them.
no! no! no!
Dave F. wrote:
Yesterday, whilst I was editing Potlatch started displaying
cycleways in dark blue. They did use to be orange didn't they?
Yes.
Is this intentional?
Yes.
I can see no reference to it in the Changelog.
No, I haven't had time to update that yet.
I have a ways that have
Dave F. wrote:
A canal is mapped with a single line but there are numerous wharfs
where the width is increased significantly. I've mapped it as an
area but can't find an appropriate tag.
I'd map this as an area (overlapping the 'centreline' way) with either
landuse=basin or
exnpo-openstreetmap wrote:
As a newbie of two weeks, I hesitate to ask if there's a problem
with using the keyboard shortcut 'L' key, to display Lat/Long on the
map whilst editing?
Pretty sure there isn't a problem. The bit of code used by the 'L' key
is exactly the same as that used to
anonymous guy wrote:
I cannot imagine using any mapping tool without displaying street
names by default.
We pride ourselves in doing things you never imagined possible. :p
Anyway, in Potlatch (Flash), use the options box - which you bring up
by clicking the little tick icon - to select a
James Ewen wrote:
Last month I ripped up a poorly hand laid roadway, and replaced it
with a GPS trace turned into a way. I waited for the next render
cycle, and found my nice GPS trace had been turned into a straight
line between the end points in Mapnik. I double checked things, and
made
David Groom wrote:
- Original Message -
From: mclay
To: newbies@openstreetmap.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 6:01 PM
Subject: [OSM-newbies] copy and paste motorway
Hi All,
Is there a way to copy and paste a motor way? I want to make all
motor ways outside
James Ewen wrote:
How does Potlatch determine which GPS traces are to be displayed
within the viewable window?
It just asks the database for all the GPS points in a given bounding
box. It then joins them up based on which track they are (which is
stored in the database).
Is there a way
Stefan Monnier wrote:
I've tried to fix a few minor oneway errors around my house, but
when
I try to edit a map, the editor just seems to stay stuck at startup
(I just get a few signs at the bottom and a loading mouse icon).
This is under Firefox on Debian GNU/Linux testing, using the
mutlowmaps wrote:
forgive such a basic question but I'm suffering from information
overload and am more used to using other forums for posting,
replying to posts in a thread etc:...how do I reply to messages from
this and the other OSM mailing lists? I can view the archives fine
Andrew C wrote:
Thank you for some of the limited responses I received, but still
conversion tools for windows seem to be lacking for OSM? Am I
incorrect in this?
No, I think you're largely correct. By and large doing things with
OSM data is an industry in its early stages and, for
Douglas Furlong wrote:
But, I would strongly recommend using JOSM, if you do, then you do
not have to wait for your GPS traces to be uploaded, as this can be
imported directly in to JOSM.
Potlatch does that too - just click 'edit' by the trace in the
listing; this works even before it's
Germán Buela wrote:
I get the one in Spanish (though I don't recall having
selected the language, I guess it is selected automatically from
user's home) - is the application exactly the same or is it possible
that Spanish Potlatch is an older version?
It's the same version, but it's possible
Bob Hawkins wrote:
How can I realign B1 without affecting the curvature of A and C,
because as soon as I delete the node at the coincidence of A/B1, for
example, the shape of A changes and I no longer know the location
of that node to reinstate it?
If you're using Potlatch, just
Bob Hawkins wrote:
I am using JOSM.
Yeah, I figured that from the subject line after I sent it - d'oh.
AFAIK JOSM doesn't have an equivalent.
cheers
Richard
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Mohamed wrote:
Now that is interesting, except I do not know how to formulate a
proper request! I tried this
http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.5/node/156804/history but to no
avail. I get empty responses, just nothing.
You might need to select 'View Source' in your browser.
Also,
Stefan Sassenberg wrote:
I have a question on how to make two streets use a common point with
Potlatch. The two streets are simply crossing but I want them to share
one point.
If the two streets already exist...
Select the topmost street; then Shift-click on the crossing point.
The point
Dominik Spies wrote:
When I do a edit, for example in Regensburg, Germany, I see nothing
but
some GPS traces and some points (bus stations, hospitals, post offices
and so on). But there are no streets or anything else.. Is that
behaviour normal?
Generally it means that the server is
Cas Morris wrote:
Hi everyone, I've just started to do some GPS track logging, but I'm
having difficulties making my Mac see my eTrex. I have bought a
Serial-USB power / data cable from GPSbitz.co.uk, and installed the
Prolific PL2303 driver software. I was hoping that was all I would
need
Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote:
And the digital magnetometer (AKA compass) and barometer on the
Vista add up
30 bucks... You won't need 'em if you don't go hiking.
Or even if you do... you can tell which way you're facing (i.e.
compass) if you keep walking, it's only if you're standing still
Dirk Vervoort wrote:
A few months ago I begon using potlatch. The result I was not aware that
some streets were connected because in view the looked fine.
I'd like to add something in a future version of Potlatch where
intersections appear with a little box around them, i.e. '(o)' rather
Andrew McCarthy wrote:
Is that the reason why GPX traces without them are rejected? It
seems a
bit extreme!
More generally, it's mild encouragement to upload real data. It gives
some (limited) security that the data is real data you've copyrighted
yourself - not that you've got some OS
Igor Corneff wrote:
Should I create river bank and road/bridge nodes independly or reuse
river nodes for bridge in case where road runs across the river?
Shared nodes imply shared space, if you see what I mean. So you'd
reuse the nodes for a ford, but not for a bridge. (Similarly, where a
James Ewen wrote:
I can get through to step 5, and then get stuck. When I click the edit
button from step 4, I get taken to the way editing page, but the GPS
track never shows up. How many hours should I wait for the GPS track
to show up? Is there some other step that needs to happen between
James Ewen wrote:
I don't seem t be getting the track loaded into memory... I have let
it sit for over 1/2 an hour waiting, with nothing to show. Potlatch
doesn't seem to be doing anything at the time, I can hit the TRACK
button, and Potlatch responds. (But does nothing since there's no
Cartinus wrote:
AFAIK There is only one way (at least in JOSM): Click on each one of them one
by one while you are drawing the new border. The amount of effort is just the
same for reusing old nodes and creating new ones. The benefit is not in the
amount of work, but in the amount of data in
Anne Wilson wrote:
It's a 5-year-old eTrex. It doesn't have the facility to change the
frequency
of recording points. The software is v.2.0.2, and I think even upgrading it
to 2.5 wouldn't give me that. It won't take 3.0
I used a similarly-aged eTrex for many years. It's not much good
Stuart wrote:
I'd like to use OSM Rendered data for various web mapping projects.
I've looked at the API but this seems to deal only with the
underlying Vector data. Can I create an application where the
rendered map appears with some controls to zoom pan etc and then to
add
john202 wrote:
In the Discussion and Voting section of the Proposed_features page
it states that once a feature is fully described to 'send out an
RFC to the mailing list'.
What does RFC stand for - it sounds very technical and hence off
putting.
My guess is that it stands for
Cliff Deamer wrote:
Thank you Richard,
My problem is that someone has previously mapped part of the area I am
dealing with but has simplified country lanes by making them a series of
straight lines. A road which is in fact very winding is now inaccurately
presented.
Ah, that annoys me too!
Cliff Deamer wrote:
This is a repeat of an earlier e-mail which may have been rejected. My
subscription had not registered.
I've cc:ed this to the newbies list, which is probably the best home
for such questions - you might like to subscribe if you haven't done
so already.
My question
Gervase Markham wrote:
Is tracing directly from the NPE maps, with no or very little GPS fix
support, considered reasonable? Or are they not considered accurate
enough?
The main problem with the NPE maps is alignment. The best way to
solve this is to align one end of the road you want to
Francis Augusto Medeiros - Listas wrote:
It does show in Potlach. Point no. 60678823.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit.html?lat=-15.24lon=-40.62zoom=12
But it may be me, because I still haven't managed to work properly on
newer JOSM. And I can't work in Potlach (gee, I don't know even how
Rick Collins wrote:
At 04:35 AM 10/10/2007, you wrote:
Rick Collins wrote:
We tend to think of GPS logs as being primary survey evidence, editing
them beyond simply removing points breaks that assumption.
I don't know who you are, but you sound as if you are speaking for
the project.
H.S.Rai wrote:
Even if I try to edit map, add road, using online editor of
openstreetmap, I can draw the lines, but as such there is no save
button. Does it save automatically?
Yes.
The map is then updated to reflect your changes in a week or so (or
quicker if you manually request them on
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