Re: [NTG-context] Question \completepublications

2006-12-22 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Hi Guðmundur (and Wim), Guðmundur J. Kristjánsson wrote: Hi all. I think I am having the same (or at least a similar problem). I have been using Context for a while now, always using references. This is the first time experiencing this problem. I have tried: Latest versions? 1)

Re: [NTG-context] new debian context, upload to Debian

2006-12-22 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Taco! On Mit, 20 Dez 2006, Taco Hoekwater wrote: The cows fonts (inside cont-tmf) are cc-by-nd. TeXLive doesn't like that, so perhaps the same is true for debian. find . -name \*cow\* does not give me anything with 2006.12.21, is this intended, or how are the fonts called ... Best wishes

Re: [NTG-context] new debian context, upload to Debian

2006-12-22 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Norbert Preining wrote: Hi Taco! On Mit, 20 Dez 2006, Taco Hoekwater wrote: The cows fonts (inside cont-tmf) are cc-by-nd. TeXLive doesn't like that, so perhaps the same is true for debian. find . -name \*cow\* does not give me anything with 2006.12.21, is this intended, or how are

[NTG-context] new debian context 2006.12.21-0.1

2006-12-22 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi all! New upstream, new debian package 2006.12.21-0.1 deb(-src) http://www.tug.org/texlive/Debian/ context/ Missing before I can upload (will upload) to Debian: - copyright file needs to be extended. I got the OK from Taco that everything but the cows fonts are GPLv2 or PD, those

Re: [NTG-context] new debian context 2006.12.21-0.1

2006-12-22 Thread Norbert Preining
On Fre, 22 Dez 2006, Norbert Preining wrote: New upstream, new debian package 2006.12.21-0.1 deb(-src) http://www.tug.org/texlive/Debian/ context/ Missing before I can upload (will upload) to Debian: - copyright file needs to be extended. I got the OK from Taco that everything but

Re: [NTG-context] new debian context, upload to Debian

2006-12-22 Thread Norbert Preining
On Fre, 22 Dez 2006, Taco Hoekwater wrote: find . -name \*cow\* does not give me anything with 2006.12.21, is this intended, or how are the fonts called ... Try find . -name koei\* (koe == cow in dutch) Ahh thanks, ok these fonts are gone. I will package anyway a context-nonfree

Re: [NTG-context] new debian context 2006.12.21-0.1

2006-12-22 Thread Mike Bird
On Friday 22 December 2006 02:29, Frank Küster wrote: And, in particular, something which explains in 5 lines why one would want to use ConTeXt instead of LaTeX. My 2 cents: Context has more coherent design, more control of page layout, more choice of font sizes, more direct control of pretty

Re: [NTG-context] new debian context 2006.12.21-0.1

2006-12-22 Thread Frank Küster
Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all! New upstream, new debian package 2006.12.21-0.1 deb(-src) http://www.tug.org/texlive/Debian/ context/ Missing before I can upload (will upload) to Debian: - copyright file needs to be extended. I got the OK from Taco that

[NTG-context] new debian context and debian-nonfree 2006.12.21-0.1

2006-12-22 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi all! I re-repacked the stuff and now there are 2 packages: context context-nonfree the content is quite easy: Everything from cont-tmf, cont-fnt, cont-ext, cont-img is in context, BUT the list of files attached in MANIFEST.nonfree which are in context-nonfree. context suggests

Re: [NTG-context] License stuff for ConTeXt

2006-12-22 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On 12/22/06, Norbert Preining wrote: Hi all! You know what is coming ... First statement: I would prefer to have context in Debian proper, but if we cannot get anyway with this, putting all the stuff into the nonfree section might be an option, although it doesn't sound right. Ok, I made

Re: [NTG-context] License stuff for ConTeXt

2006-12-22 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Hi Norbert, I had to go through this for TeXLive proper as well. Can't you just ask Karl Berry cq. do what TexLive does (since it claims to be Debian-compatible)? Anyway, here is my list of remarks. I apologise beforehand if I sound a bit unfriendly here or there, I do not completely agree with

Re: [NTG-context] \hairline in the header and column rule

2006-12-22 Thread Jeong Dalyoung
Dear Aditya Thank you for your tip. After adding the line \setupbackgrounds[header][text] [bottomframe=on,topframe=on], I got lines of whole length. However, [rule=on] option only draw vertical line as long as the paragraph not to the bottom. Please test once more using a short paragraph(3-4

Re: [NTG-context] new debian context and debian-nonfree 2006.12.21-0.1

2006-12-22 Thread Norbert Preining
On Fre, 22 Dez 2006, Norbert Preining wrote: cont-img is in context, BUT the list of files attached in MANIFEST.nonfree which are in context-nonfree. Which is now attached ... Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert

Re: [NTG-context] new debian context 2006.12.21-0.1

2006-12-22 Thread luigi scarso
And, in particular, something which explains in 5 lines why one would See Mike Bird. want to use ConTeXt instead of LaTeX. I use ConteXt for automatic-print-on-demand jobs. from simple labels/stickers to complex multilanguage pricelists (i'm in a print-hous) I like for its object-oriented

Re: [NTG-context] License stuff for ConTeXt

2006-12-22 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Taco! On Fre, 22 Dez 2006, Taco Hoekwater wrote: I had to go through this for TeXLive proper as well. Can't you Oh, sorry I missed this. Was it on the tex-live list? If yes, then all this is my fault, if no, hmm, still sorry. Anyway, here is my list of remarks. I apologise beforehand if I

Re: [NTG-context] new debian context 2006.12.21-0.1

2006-12-22 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006, Frank Küster wrote: And, in particular, something which explains in 5 lines why one would want to use ConTeXt instead of LaTeX. The ConTeXt FAQ answers this question. The first one is a complete explanation by Brooks Moses on c.t.t. while the second is a 5 line

Re: [NTG-context] new debian context 2006.12.21-0.1

2006-12-22 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi all! On Fre, 22 Dez 2006, Aditya Mahajan wrote: What are the differences between ConTeXt and LaTeX? http://wiki.contextgarden.net/FAQ#What_are_the_differences_between_ConTeXt_and_LaTeX.3F Thanks I included some text from it into the control file, ie description: Description: powerful TeX

Re: [NTG-context] License stuff for ConTeXt

2006-12-22 Thread Hans Hagen
Taco Hoekwater wrote: No, they were not, and there is no missing source. The vf/tfm/map were generated using the texfont program, which does not use source files. The afms were created using ttf2afm, which uses ttfs as source. concerning vf tfm and map files: in most cases they are kind of

Re: [NTG-context] License stuff for ConTeXt

2006-12-22 Thread Hans Hagen
Norbert Preining wrote: if I, too, don't agree about the documentation stuff. In fact I agree half-way: I want to have the source code, even if some commercial fonts are missing etc and would still consider this DFSG free. In fact I started a discussion about it some time ago, since I

[NTG-context] new debian context and debian-nonfree 2006.12.21-1

2006-12-22 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi all! Again, after all the helpful comments from Taco, Hans, Mojca, Aditya, I have redone all the packaging: context: everything but the cow fonts and the tipsandtricks.pdf context-nonfree: cow fonts a long list of pdfs from the web site: aleph.pdf mfonts.pdf

Re: [NTG-context] License stuff for ConTeXt

2006-12-22 Thread Hans Hagen
Mojca Miklavec wrote: ConTeXt doesn't use/need fontinst. I assume that all the files were created only once by running texfont script once per each font/encoding, most probably manually (although one could easily once per encoding texfont --encoding=texnansi --batch type-tmf.dat etc

Re: [NTG-context] new debian context 2006.12.21-0.1

2006-12-22 Thread Mike Bird
On Friday 22 December 2006 08:18, Norbert Preining wrote: The main difference between ConTeXt and LaTeX lies in the fact that LaTeX was created with the idea of separating content and presentation to such an extent that the typical author would write their content and then use a style file

Re: [NTG-context] new debian context 2006.12.21-0.1

2006-12-22 Thread Sanjoy Mahajan
Latexstualists may disagree but I think the essence is that Context gives more control and makes it easier to create new layouts. Also the ConTeXt parts are more integrated than the LaTeX packages are -- think of the discussions/comments about what order LaTeX packages must be loaded. For

[NTG-context] mails

2006-12-22 Thread Hans Hagen
sorry for being a bit slow on answering mail .. the usual end of year deadlines and such delay me Hans -- - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The

Re: [NTG-context] \hairline in the header and column rule

2006-12-22 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Sat, 23 Dec 2006, Jeong Dalyoung wrote: However, [rule=on] option only draw vertical line as long as the paragraph not to the bottom. Do you mean you want a line in the middle of the columns for the entire page, even if the text does not fill the whole page? I do not think \startcolumns

Re: [NTG-context] License stuff for ConTeXt

2006-12-22 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Hi Norbert, Norbert Preining wrote: Sure, but only if you can promise this *will be* the end of it. Otherwise, it only adds even more of a hassle (it seems whatever we do, it is never quite enough). To be honest: This is the way MOST projects go. And with a statement like this Debian

Re: [NTG-context] \hairline in the header and column rule

2006-12-22 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Sat, 23 Dec 2006, Jeong Dalyoung wrote: However, [rule=on] option only draw vertical line as long as the paragraph not to the bottom. Do you mean you want a line in the middle of the columns for the entire page, even if the text does not fill the whole page? I

Re: [NTG-context] new debian context 2006.12.21-0.1

2006-12-22 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006, Sanjoy Mahajan wrote: Latexstualists may disagree but I think the essence is that Context gives more control and makes it easier to create new layouts. Also the ConTeXt parts are more integrated than the LaTeX packages are -- think of the discussions/comments about