Re: [NTG-context] When I don't want quotes

2008-08-13 Thread Peter Münster
On Tue, Aug 12 2008, Hans Hagen wrote: two solutions: (1) use tt (since there trep is off) {\tt '} (2) reload the bodyfont \definefontfeature [default] [default] [trep=no] \setupbodyfont[reset] This works only for MKIV. The OP uses MKII, and his problem is, that

Re: [NTG-context] When I don't want quotes

2008-08-13 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Peter Münster wrote: On Tue, Aug 12 2008, Hans Hagen wrote: two solutions: (1) use tt (since there trep is off) {\tt '} The OP uses MKII, and his problem is, that MKII translates the ascii character ' (0x27) to ’ (0xE2 0x80 0x99). That leaves just \tt as option, really. None of

Re: [NTG-context] When I don't want quotes

2008-08-13 Thread Hans Hagen
Peter Münster wrote: On Tue, Aug 12 2008, Hans Hagen wrote: two solutions: (1) use tt (since there trep is off) {\tt '} (2) reload the bodyfont \definefontfeature [default] [default] [trep=no] \setupbodyfont[reset] This works only for MKIV. The OP uses MKII, and

Re: [NTG-context] Font problems with latest minimals on Linux

2008-08-13 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Vasile Gaburici wrote: I've switched to the rsync-ed minimals on Linux. There are still some problems with fonts: 1) Bold is still missing from fonts pulled via OSFONTDIR, e.g.: verdana Verdana /usr/share/fonts/vista/Verdana.ttf verdana bold italic

Re: [NTG-context] Font problems with latest minimals on Linux

2008-08-13 Thread Hans Hagen
Taco Hoekwater wrote: Vasile Gaburici wrote: I've switched to the rsync-ed minimals on Linux. There are still some problems with fonts: 1) Bold is still missing from fonts pulled via OSFONTDIR, e.g.: verdana Verdana /usr/share/fonts/vista/Verdana.ttf verdana

Re: [NTG-context] When I don't want quotes

2008-08-13 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Aug 13, 2008, at 9:29 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: That leaves just \tt as option, really. None of the 'normal' encodings in mkii have a straight quote. texnansi does: grep quotesingle /usr/local/texlive/texmf-local/tex/context/base/enco- ans.tex \definecharacter quotesingle 129

Re: [NTG-context] When I don't want quotes

2008-08-13 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: On Aug 13, 2008, at 9:29 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: That leaves just \tt as option, really. None of the 'normal' encodings in mkii have a straight quote. texnansi does: grep quotesingle /usr/local/texlive/texmf-local/tex/context/base/enco- ans.tex

[NTG-context] no linebreak before footnote after vertical line

2008-08-13 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Hi, to prevent long abbreviations from being hyphenated I use the vertical line. That's fine in most cases. Only, bad luck if there is a footnote following and this at the end of the line: \starttext bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla

Re: [NTG-context] Font problems with latest minimals on Linux

2008-08-13 Thread Vasile Gaburici
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, recursion would be nice. font-syn.lua, line 190: path = input.clean_path(path .. /) path = path:gsub(/+,/) path = path .. **/ insert the last line and see what happens (untested because

Re: [NTG-context] Font problems with latest minimals on Linux

2008-08-13 Thread Hans Hagen
Vasile Gaburici wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, recursion would be nice. font-syn.lua, line 190: path = input.clean_path(path .. /) path = path:gsub(/+,/) path = path .. **/ insert the last line and see what

Re: [NTG-context] Font problems with latest minimals on Linux

2008-08-13 Thread Vasile Gaburici
As for the missing bold, it seems there's a bug in the naming scheme: Ii the bold italic file gets read from the disk before the bold, then you don't get the right entries. It so happens that most of the fonts in that dir had bold before bold italic, e.g. fontnames | identifying ttf font

Re: [NTG-context] Font problems with latest minimals on Linux

2008-08-13 Thread Hans Hagen
Vasile Gaburici wrote: As for the missing bold, it seems there's a bug in the naming scheme: Ii the bold italic file gets read from the disk before the bold, then you don't get the right entries. It so happens that most of the fonts in that dir had bold before bold italic, e.g. fontnames |

Re: [NTG-context] Font problems with latest minimals on Linux

2008-08-13 Thread Vasile Gaburici
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vasile Gaburici wrote: As for the missing bold, it seems there's a bug in the naming scheme: Ii the bold italic file gets read from the disk before the bold, then you don't get the right entries. It so happens that most of

Re: [NTG-context] When I don't want quotes

2008-08-13 Thread Maurí­cio
I need to write ' in a text. However, (...) I really need it to be 5 times U0027, not ””’ (U201C and U2018). (...) (...) Both also didn't work. (...) Indeed, I am using mkiv... But you should be able to use \char etc. to get the same effect. pdftex is not working at the

Re: [NTG-context] Font problems with latest minimals on Linux

2008-08-13 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Vasile Gaburici wrote: I've switched to the rsync-ed minimals on Linux. There are still some problems with fonts: 1) Bold is still missing from fonts pulled via OSFONTDIR, e.g.: verdana Verdana /usr/share/fonts/vista/Verdana.ttf verdana bold italic

Re: [NTG-context] \setuplayout question

2008-08-13 Thread Alan Stone
Pages and pages and pages skillfully resumed in a few, targeted and simple lines. Keyword: the system is set up in such a way that... Something to consider for the manual updates ? Thanks a lot Hans, Alan On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 6:05 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan Stone wrote:

[NTG-context] letter module

2008-08-13 Thread Roger Mason
Hello, I just downloaded the letter module and installed it by unzipping the t-letter.zip file into /usr/local/context_minimal/. When I try a test letter: \usemodule[letter] \starttext \startletter It is raining again. \stopletter \stoptext context fails with: systems : system

Re: [NTG-context] no linebreak before footnote after vertical line

2008-08-13 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Steffen Wolfrum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, to prevent long abbreviations from being hyphenated I use the vertical line. That's fine in most cases. Only, bad luck if there is a footnote following and this at the end of the line: \starttext bla bla bla

[NTG-context] Manual wishlist (was Re: \setuplayout question)

2008-08-13 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Hi all, Alan Stone wrote: Pages and pages and pages skillfully resumed in a few, targeted and simple lines. Keyword: the system is set up in such a way that... Something to consider for the manual updates ? A remark from me may be in order: while I am indeed busy working on some of

Re: [NTG-context] Font problems with latest minimals on Linux

2008-08-13 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Vasile Gaburici [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vasile Gaburici wrote: As for the missing bold, it seems there's a bug in the naming scheme: Ii the bold italic file gets read from the disk before

Re: [NTG-context] letter module

2008-08-13 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Roger Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I just downloaded the letter module and installed it by unzipping the t-letter.zip file into /usr/local/context_minimal/. When I try a test letter: \usemodule[letter] \starttext \startletter It is raining

Re: [NTG-context] no linebreak before footnote after vertical line

2008-08-13 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Am 13.08.2008 um 15:42 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Steffen Wolfrum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, to prevent long abbreviations from being hyphenated I use the vertical line. That's fine in most cases. Only, bad luck if there is a footnote following and

[NTG-context] Partly OT: some luatex questions

2008-08-13 Thread Ulrike Fischer
I'm currently trying if I can use luatex on my miktex installation and together with LaTeX. I have downloaded the executable (Version snapshot-0.29.0-2008071816) from the context-minimals and made a simple texmf.cnf and build some formats (the formats don't contain something luatex specific,

Re: [NTG-context] Lastest Build on TeXlive 2008 and MikTeX 2.7

2008-08-13 Thread abbg770
Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.lists at gmail.com writes: Yes, it's perfectly fine if you just install this one into local tree (or maybe even into global - at least that's what I do). The rest is far less important. You only need to be aware that once you update a package in global tree,

[NTG-context] stay on grid in double column

2008-08-13 Thread Jelle Huisman
Hi, I have text with a small intro section in a double column environment. The main text is set on a grid and the intro text is slightly off-grid with a \vskip -2pt before and a \vskip 2pt after the intro. As this sample shows this works fine, until the intro text is broken over two columns.

Re: [NTG-context] Font problems with latest minimals on Linux

2008-08-13 Thread Vasile Gaburici
Before I get anymore strawman arguments, here's the definitive experiment: $ ls -U1 /usr/share/fonts/vista/ | grep erda Verdanai.ttf Verdana.ttf Verdanaz.ttf Verdanab.ttf $ ls -U1 /xp/wtf/ Verdana.ttf Verdanab.ttf Verdanai.ttf Verdanaz.ttf Notice that the directory order is different, bold

Re: [NTG-context] Font problems with latest minimals on Linux

2008-08-13 Thread Hans Hagen
Vasile Gaburici wrote: Before I get anymore strawman arguments, here's the definitive experiment: $ ls -U1 /usr/share/fonts/vista/ | grep erda Verdanai.ttf Verdana.ttf Verdanaz.ttf Verdanab.ttf $ ls -U1 /xp/wtf/ Verdana.ttf Verdanab.ttf Verdanai.ttf Verdanaz.ttf did you test the

Re: [NTG-context] [OS X TeX] Default rule thickness

2008-08-13 Thread Oliver Buerschaper
Sorry I missed this thread earlier. The default rule thickness in is the eight font parameter of the fonts in math family 3. A bare context file with the standard 12pt fonts gives the value 0.47998pt. You can get the value via : \edef\defautlrulethickness{\the\fontdimen8\textfont3}

[NTG-context] Scope of BodyFontSize etc.

2008-08-13 Thread Oliver Buerschaper
Dear wizards of ConTeXt, I'm wondering why ConTeXt doesn't seem to know about BodyFontSize in the MPinclusions block … try: --- \startMPinclusions DefaultRuleThickness := 0.47998pt*BodyFontSize/12pt; pickup pencircle scaled DefaultRuleThickness; defaultpen := savepen;

Re: [NTG-context] Font problems with latest minimals on Linux

2008-08-13 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Vasile Gaburici wrote: Before I get anymore strawman arguments, here's the definitive experiment: As Hans said, should be corrected in the latest beta. Please cut us some slack here, debugging unreproducible problems is hard and timeconsuming. BTW, the Lua 5.1 reference manual is a joke.

Re: [NTG-context] no linebreak before footnote after vertical line

2008-08-13 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Steffen Wolfrum wrote: schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: Steffen Wolfrum wrote: bla bla bla |WikiPOBia|\footnote{note}. \stoptext ... on my machine the second line starts with the footnote marker 1. Is there a general solution to avoid this bad coincidence? \hyphenation{WikiPOBia} well, I

Re: [NTG-context] [OS X TeX] Default rule thickness

2008-08-13 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Oliver Buerschaper wrote: Sorry I missed this thread earlier. The default rule thickness in is the eight font parameter of the fonts in math family 3. A bare context file with the standard 12pt fonts gives the value 0.47998pt. You can get the value via :

Re: [NTG-context] texmfstart texexec

2008-08-13 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي ح امد
Dear gang, On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:59:20 -0600, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Idris Samawi Hamid ? ? wrote: Dear gang, I am upgrading my system to the latest mswincontext distro. After some hiccups, context.cmd finds its target script, so I can generate the mkiv

[NTG-context] presentations

2008-08-13 Thread Hans Hagen
Hi, some presentations from tug 2008 are at http://www.luatex.org/talks/screen-luatex-tug-2008.pdf http://www.luatex.org/talks/print-luatex-tug-2008.pdf http://www.luatex.org/talks/screen-mplib-tug-2008.pdf http://www.luatex.org/talks/print-mplib-tug-2008.pdf

Re: [NTG-context] [OS X TeX] Default rule thickness

2008-08-13 Thread Oliver Buerschaper
OK. However, this doesn't seem to scale properly within the same font … try the following: --- \edef\defaultrulethickness{\the\fontdimen8\textfont3} That is because of the \edef. Changing to a plain \def should help: \def\defaultrulethickness{\the\fontdimen8\textfont3\relax} Yep,

[NTG-context] Table heading repeating on a new page

2008-08-13 Thread abbg770
Hi, Is it possible to do this? As in the Chance this and To this headings are repeated on the top of each page Beware the images are big; -http://imagebin.org/24166 -If the above doesn't work; http://imagebin.ca/view/LWZdNWP5.html Thanks Mohamed Bana

Re: [NTG-context] no linebreak before footnote after vertical line

2008-08-13 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Am 13.08.2008 um 19:04 schrieb Taco Hoekwater: Steffen Wolfrum wrote: schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: Steffen Wolfrum wrote: bla bla bla |WikiPOBia|\footnote{note}. \stoptext ... on my machine the second line starts with the footnote marker 1. Is there a general solution to avoid this

Re: [NTG-context] Reference Manual Project

2008-08-13 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2008-08-11 um 21:44 schrieb Hans Hagen: Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: BTW in LilyPond there's a multilingual glossary, perhaps we should start such, too? We often get confusion with technical terms. And at least in German there's currently not even a technical dictionary for the

Re: [NTG-context] texmfstart texexec

2008-08-13 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي ح امد
Hi Hans, I think I found a clue: If I start a command shell (no scite or npp or other editor) and do setuptex c:\context\tex texmfstart texexec I get TeXExec | version 6.2.0 - 1997-2006 - PRAGMA ADE/POD TeXExec | --checkcheck versions TeXExec | --figures generate overview of

Re: [NTG-context] Partly OT: some luatex questions

2008-08-13 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
Hello Ulrike, 1. In the following document there is no space between the a and the y: \documentclass{article} \begin{document} \noindent a\\y \bigskip a\par y \end{document} It looks as if the lines have only the depth from their content. I don't seem to see that

Re: [NTG-context] texmfstart texexec

2008-08-13 Thread Hans Hagen
Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote: Could there be something screwy in cscite.bat? Or setuptex.bat? what does echo %PATH% report? - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE

Re: [NTG-context] texmfstart texexec

2008-08-13 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي ح امد
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:26:02 -0600, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote: Could there be something screwy in cscite.bat? Or setuptex.bat? what does echo %PATH% report? \testecho %PATH%

Re: [NTG-context] [OS X TeX] Default rule thickness

2008-08-13 Thread Hans Hagen
Oliver Buerschaper wrote: OK. However, this doesn't seem to scale properly within the same font … try the following: --- \edef\defaultrulethickness{\the\fontdimen8\textfont3} That is because of the \edef. Changing to a plain \def should help:

Re: [NTG-context] Font problems with latest minimals on Linux

2008-08-13 Thread Vasile Gaburici
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vasile Gaburici wrote: Before I get anymore strawman arguments, here's the definitive experiment: As Hans said, should be corrected in the latest beta. Please cut us some slack here, debugging unreproducible problems is

Re: [NTG-context] Lastest Build on TeXlive 2008 and MikTeX 2.7

2008-08-13 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Aug 13, 2008, at 5:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok so I'm trying to install cont-tmf.zip on a Fedora 9 box with TexLive 2008 into my local ~/texmf/. $ kpsexpand '$TEXMFHOME' /home/mohamed/texmf $ ls ~/texmf/ bibtex cont-ext.zip cont-img.zip cont-ppc.zip doc metapost tex web2c

Re: [NTG-context] Font problems with latest minimals on Linux

2008-08-13 Thread Vasile Gaburici
If you still haven't figured out how to reproduce it, apply the patched I've attached. It will force the hash entries to be added in sorted order. With the patch applied, if you have some fonts called Calibri Bold Italic.otf Calibri Bold.otf Calibri Italic.otf Calibri.otf the order of hash