Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-16 Thread Zhichu Chen
Sorry Hans, I mean not embed, there's a typo in my last post. I've broken the otf file into multiple type 1 fonts before, and it compiles very fast comparing to ttf or otf. But I don't know whether it is legal to embed those pfb files. On Dec 14, 2007 4:03 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-16 Thread Zhichu Chen
Hi Wolfgang, On Dec 14, 2007 6:24 PM, Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2007/12/14, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Zhichu Chen wrote: Hi Wolfgang, On Dec 13, 2007 7:17 PM, Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2007/12/13, Zhichu Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-16 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/12/17, Zhichu Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sorry Hans, I mean not embed, there's a typo in my last post. I've broken the otf file into multiple type 1 fonts before, and it compiles very fast comparing to ttf or otf. But I don't know whether it is legal to embed those pfb files. LuaTeX is now

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-14 Thread Hans Hagen
Zhichu Chen wrote: Thanks Hans. Do you have any comments about how to now embed the standard Adobe CJK fonts? you can split up the ttf file in smaller pfb files matching the tfm's Hans -

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-14 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/12/14, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Zhichu Chen wrote: Hi Wolfgang, On Dec 13, 2007 7:17 PM, Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2007/12/13, Zhichu Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi guys, Maybe this post has gone too far, and I've tried a bunch of methods to get my map

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-13 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/12/12, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Yes I did this and I changed my font settings for the title page to \definedfont in my document takes now 80 seconds for a single run but it spends most of the time for font loading. much overhead is related to things

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-13 Thread Hans Hagen
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: It is possible to use the old and new method in some documents in the same way but I prefer the new method because I can now use xml files to store information without the need to store the data before the run in TeX macros. i will not remove the old method if only

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-13 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/12/13, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wolfgang Schuster wrote: It is possible to use the old and new method in some documents in the same way but I prefer the new method because I can now use xml files to store information without the need to store the data before the run in TeX

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-13 Thread Zhichu Chen
Hi guys, Maybe this post has gone too far, and I've tried a bunch of methods to get my map work. Anyway, I can't. And there's something I must say, why pdftex must embed the whole otf file? It's about 15M for my only-one-character test file and about 20M for my another only-two-characters test

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-13 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/12/13, Zhichu Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi guys, Maybe this post has gone too far, and I've tried a bunch of methods to get my map work. Anyway, I can't. And there's something I must say, why pdftex must embed the whole otf file? It's about 15M for my only-one-character test file and

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-13 Thread Hans Hagen
Zhichu Chen wrote: Hi guys, Maybe this post has gone too far, and I've tried a bunch of methods to get my map work. Anyway, I can't. And there's something I must say, why pdftex must embed the whole otf file? It's about 15M for my only-one-character test file and about 20M for my another

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-13 Thread Zhichu Chen
Hi Wolfgang, On Dec 13, 2007 7:17 PM, Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2007/12/13, Zhichu Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi guys, Maybe this post has gone too far, and I've tried a bunch of methods to get my map work. Anyway, I can't. And there's something I must say, why pdftex

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-13 Thread Zhichu Chen
Thanks Hans. Do you have any comments about how to now embed the standard Adobe CJK fonts? On Dec 13, 2007 8:25 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zhichu Chen wrote: Hi guys, Maybe this post has gone too far, and I've tried a bunch of methods to get my map work. Anyway, I can't.

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-12 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/12/11, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wolfgang Schuster wrote: 2007/12/11, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wolfgang Schuster wrote: I run LuaTeX on a songle core pentium M with 1.7 GHz and 512 MB ram, I made now a smell test file and the problem the speed with this file is not

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-12 Thread Hans Hagen
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Yes I did this and I changed my font settings for the title page to \definedfont in my document takes now 80 seconds for a single run but it spends most of the time for font loading. much overhead is related to things like setting up math, synchronizing encodings,

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-11 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/12/10, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Slow is no word for the speed with CJK, I have a document with Adobe Kozuka Minchi and Gothic and run takes up to 3 to 4 minutes. The same document needs with XeTeX about half a minute and using the same fonts in plain

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-11 Thread Hans Hagen
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: 2007/12/10, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Slow is no word for the speed with CJK, I have a document with Adobe Kozuka Minchi and Gothic and run takes up to 3 to 4 minutes. The same document needs with XeTeX about half a minute and using the

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-11 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: I run LuaTeX on a songle core pentium M with 1.7 GHz and 512 MB ram, I made now a smell test file and the problem the speed with this file is not so bad, the compile time increases with every \switchtobodyfont in my document and not every of them can be replaced.

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-11 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/12/11, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wolfgang Schuster wrote: I run LuaTeX on a songle core pentium M with 1.7 GHz and 512 MB ram, I made now a smell test file and the problem the speed with this file is not so bad, the compile time increases with every \switchtobodyfont in my

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-11 Thread Hans Hagen
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: 2007/12/11, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wolfgang Schuster wrote: I run LuaTeX on a songle core pentium M with 1.7 GHz and 512 MB ram, I made now a smell test file and the problem the speed with this file is not so bad, the compile time increases with every

[NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-10 Thread Zhichu Chen
Hi, I searched the mail list for a while and I got that if I didn't specify the font file, it will not be embeded and Acrobat Reader will just use its own fonts to show the characters. I want to make some Chinese documents and I think if I don't embed any fonts, it will be much smaller than it

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-10 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/12/10, Zhichu Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Hi Chen, can't you ue XeTeX or LuaTeX for your document instead of pdfTeX, it will be easier for you because you don't need tfm and map files and you need only the typescripts. I searched the mail list for a while and I got that if I didn't

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-10 Thread Zhichu Chen
Hi, Wolfgang On Dec 11, 2007 12:05 AM, Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2007/12/10, Zhichu Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Hi Chen, can't you ue XeTeX or LuaTeX for your document instead of pdfTeX, it will be easier for you because you don't need tfm and map files and you need

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-10 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Dec 10, 2007 4:58 PM, Zhichu Chen wrote: And the second column is for the PS name of the font. I really don't know how to write it because it has spaces in it, and when I replaced it with another PS name that has no spaces or other special characters in it, say SimSun as a common

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-10 Thread Zhichu Chen
On Dec 11, 2007 12:37 AM, Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 10, 2007 4:58 PM, Zhichu Chen wrote: And the second column is for the PS name of the font. I really don't know how to write it because it has spaces in it, and when I replaced it with another PS name that has no

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-10 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
I don't know, but in this case, I don't want to embed fonts, I don't know how LuaTeX can do that LuaTeX knows how to not embed fonts if you ask it not to, but I'm not sure how this is handled on the ConTeXt level. but it runs really slow on my ancient PC, especially

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-10 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Arthur Reutenauer wrote: I don't know, but in this case, I don't want to embed fonts, I don't know how LuaTeX can do that LuaTeX knows how to not embed fonts if you ask it not to, but I'm not sure how this is handled on the ConTeXt level. but it runs really slow

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-10 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/12/10, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Arthur Reutenauer wrote: I don't know, but in this case, I don't want to embed fonts, I don't know how LuaTeX can do that LuaTeX knows how to not embed fonts if you ask it not to, but I'm not sure how this is handled on the ConTeXt level.

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-10 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/12/10, Zhichu Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Wolfgang On Dec 11, 2007 12:05 AM, Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2007/12/10, Zhichu Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Hi Chen, can't you ue XeTeX or LuaTeX for your document instead of pdfTeX, it will be easier for you

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-10 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
Don't say this, font questions are never useless. Sure enough :-) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl /

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-10 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Slow is no word for the speed with CJK, I have a document with Adobe Kozuka Minchi and Gothic and run takes up to 3 to 4 minutes. An example document (offlist) would be good ... ___ If

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-10 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/12/10, Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Dec 10, 2007 4:58 PM, Zhichu Chen wrote: And the second column is for the PS name of the font. I really don't know how to write it because it has spaces in it, and when I replaced it with another PS name that has no spaces or other

Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-10 Thread Hans Hagen
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Slow is no word for the speed with CJK, I have a document with Adobe Kozuka Minchi and Gothic and run takes up to 3 to 4 minutes. The same document needs with XeTeX about half a minute and using the same fonts in plain TeX took only a few seconds. This is really