Re: [NTG-context] %18 or 18% : incorrect placement of the percentage sign ?

2008-02-01 Thread Hans Hagen
Idris Samawi Hamid wrote: On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:35:35 -0700, Peter Münster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jan 31 2008, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: Any native arabic speaker out there? Is it %18 or 18% ?? Hello, I don't know nothing about Arabic script, but wouldn't it be logic to ask for

Re: [NTG-context] %18 or 18% : incorrect placement of the percentage sign ?

2008-02-01 Thread Otared Kavian
On 1 févr. 08, at 12:15, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: […] Maybe I missed the point: don't both lines produce the same output: ۱۲۳ ۴۵۶ ۷۸۹ ? \TeXXeTstate=1 \definedfont[GeezaPro at 16pt] \starttext ۱۲۳ ۴۵۶ ۷۸۹ \beginL ۱۲۳ ۴۵۶ ۷۸۹ \endL \stoptext ... or was this a confusion of

Re: [NTG-context] %18 or 18% : incorrect placement of the percentage sign ?

2008-01-31 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 02:27:16 -0700, Steffen Wolfrum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have often seen (in arabic newpapers) the percentage sign set left to the number % 18. Recently I read an article (http://sehstoerung.sonance.net/pdfs/ TitusNemeth_dissertation.pdf) that calls this ... the

Re: [NTG-context] %18 or 18% : incorrect placement of the percentage sign ?

2008-01-31 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 08:08:45 -0700, Idris Samawi Hamid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Both languages are left-to-right, RTL, of course... I -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO

Re: [NTG-context] %18 or 18% : incorrect placement of the percentage sign ?

2008-01-31 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Am 31.01.2008 um 16:08 schrieb Idris Samawi Hamid: Any native arabic speaker out there? Is it %18 or 18% ?? It really depends on where you live. In Persian, 18% is common, among Arabs, %18. Both languages are left-to-right, but there is more than one convention for dealing with

Re: [NTG-context] %18 or 18% : incorrect placement of the percentage sign ?

2008-01-31 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2008-01-31 um 16:08 schrieb Idris Samawi Hamid: I have often seen (in arabic newpapers) the percentage sign set left to the number % 18. Recently I read an article (http://sehstoerung.sonance.net/pdfs/ TitusNemeth_dissertation.pdf) that calls this ... the incorrect placement of the

Re: [NTG-context] %18 or 18% : incorrect placement of the percentage sign ?

2008-01-31 Thread Peter Münster
On Thu, Jan 31 2008, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: Any native arabic speaker out there? Is it %18 or 18% ?? Hello, I don't know nothing about Arabic script, but wouldn't it be logic to ask for %81 or 18% ? Cheers, Peter -- http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/

Re: [NTG-context] %18 or 18% : incorrect placement of the percentage sign ?

2008-01-31 Thread Hans Hagen
Peter Münster wrote: On Thu, Jan 31 2008, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: Any native arabic speaker out there? Is it %18 or 18% ?? Hello, I don't know nothing about Arabic script, but wouldn't it be logic to ask for %81 or 18% ? interesting point ... ok, small numbers, but how about [bara erom]

Re: [NTG-context] %18 or 18% : incorrect placement of the percentage sign ?

2008-01-31 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:42:53 -0700, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: interesting point ... ok, small numbers, but how about [bara erom] 12.472.477 [bara emos] [bara erom] 774.274.21 [bara emos] IIRC Persian and Arabic have diffferent rules; I need to research this again (check urdu

Re: [NTG-context] %18 or 18% : incorrect placement of the percentage sign ?

2008-01-31 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:35:35 -0700, Peter Münster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jan 31 2008, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: Any native arabic speaker out there? Is it %18 or 18% ?? Hello, I don't know nothing about Arabic script, but wouldn't it be logic to ask for %81 or 18% ? Hmm, this

Re: [NTG-context] %18 or 18% : incorrect placement of the percentage sign ?

2008-01-31 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
[bara erom] 12.472.477 [bara emos] [bara erom] 774.274.21 [bara emos] for long numbers a pretty fast reversing mind is needed I think you're mistaken about the flexibility of human mind. Eight digits may look like a lot, but that's really not a long string compared to an average line

Re: [NTG-context] %18 or 18% : incorrect placement of the percentage sign ?

2008-01-31 Thread Otared Kavian
Hi all, I checked in some Persian printed books, and noticed that the rule is to write 18% or rather ۱۸% However I don't know of any book in Persian on rules of typography. But I am asking some people in Iran about the issue. Regarding the treatment of numbers, indeed numbers are written