[NTG-context] Re: ConTeXt query: Retain original spacing while applying shrinking to the font file

2025-08-11 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 11.08.25 um 17:43 schrieb Hans Hagen via ntg-context: On 8/11/2025 5:24 PM, John Was wrote: Hello In XeTeX, for emergencies (e.g. two lines left dangling on the last page of a chapter) I keep in reserve: \def\tightspaceskip{\spaceskip 0.15em plus 0.2em} \def\verytightspaceskip

[NTG-context] Re: ConTeXt query: Retain original spacing while applying shrinking to the font file

2025-08-11 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context
On 8/11/2025 5:24 PM, John Was wrote: Hello In XeTeX, for emergencies (e.g. two lines left dangling on the last page of a chapter) I keep in reserve: \def\tightspaceskip{\spaceskip 0.15em plus 0.2em} \def\verytightspaceskip{\spaceskip 0.125em plus 0.15em} These seem both to work in

[NTG-context] Re: ConTeXt query: Retain original spacing while applying shrinking to the font file

2025-08-11 Thread John Was
Hello In XeTeX, for emergencies (e.g. two lines left dangling on the last page of a chapter) I keep in reserve: \def\tightspaceskip{\spaceskip 0.15em plus 0.2em} \def\verytightspaceskip{\spaceskip 0.125em plus 0.15em} These seem both to work in ConTexT - of course you can fiddle till you come

[NTG-context] Re: Illustrations in running text.

2025-08-10 Thread Matthias Weber
terlinear spacing. If I wanted to do the same in ConTexT, what would >> > be the preferred method (both in the preamble and in the text itself)? >> >> Native support for Unicode in plain TeX is possible since more than 2 >> decades with the introduction of XeTeX. >

[NTG-context] Re: Illustrations in running text.

2025-08-10 Thread John Was
> small scans that appeared in running text without disturbing the > > interlinear spacing. If I wanted to do the same in ConTexT, what would > > be the preferred method (both in the preamble and in the text itself)? > > Native support for Unicode in plain TeX is possible since more than

[NTG-context] Re: Illustrations in running text.

2025-08-09 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
do the same in ConTexT, what would be the preferred method (both in the preamble and in the text itself)? Native support for Unicode in plain TeX is possible since more than 2 decades with the introduction of XeTeX. Ideally I would want the label option to work for the benefit of any

[NTG-context] Re: Redefined ~ conserves \protected status although \show~ does not say so

2025-08-09 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context
On 8/8/2025 9:21 PM, user691586 via ntg-context wrote: I meant of course "natively active in Plain TeX". I was referring to the format, and applies to the pdftex, xetex, luatex engines too. it is unrelated to engines: any can define any character active what luametatex adds is mor

[NTG-context] Re: Redefined ~ conserves \protected status although \show~ does not say so

2025-08-09 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context
matters, and I was aiming at re-using code as is in context. in what sense natively .. all characters can be active and i bet that in plain (and maybe also latex) the quite (') is active in math in context | is actuallly active side note: - in mkii (pdftex,xetex) we use what we call

[NTG-context] Re: Redefined ~ conserves \protected status although \show~ does not say so

2025-08-08 Thread user691586 via ntg-context
I meant of course "natively active in Plain TeX". I was referring to the format, and applies to the pdftex, xetex, luatex engines too. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an en

[NTG-context] Re: Lengthening/shortening paragraphs

2025-06-25 Thread John Was
Thanks Mikail I'll look into this when I'm back at my desk. In XeTeX I'm used to looseness always working when the number is positive (generally just 1, of course), even if that produces horrible interword spacing, while if the number is negative it sometimes doesn't work

[NTG-context] Re: Footnote style

2025-06-24 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
, and so on.  I can do all these in XeTeX but realize I may have to accept some compromise in ConTeXt.  The one thing I think wouldn't be acceptable is the note numbers standing to the left of the text area. Do you have a example (input + output)?

[NTG-context] Footnote style

2025-06-24 Thread John Was
tures such as fitting a short note within the break line of a previous longer note, centring two (or more) short notes at the foot of a page with a 24pt gap between each, adding a 3pt space at the end of a note which has overrun onto the next page, and so on. I can do all these in XeTeX but realize

[NTG-context] Re: Processing time

2025-06-20 Thread John Was
kerville in > > particular (though after just a few days I can't claim any expertise in > > reading ConTexT log files). But it does seem to want to survey the > > entire database of fonts, whether or not I need them. > > > > I don't know if it would help to ca

[NTG-context] Re: Processing time

2025-06-20 Thread John Was
ed, e.g. (from my days of typesetting the *Medieval Latin Dictionary from British Sources*), in XeTeX style: \font\mldrten="[D:/BACKUPS/FONTBKUP/MLD/MLD-Regular.ttf]" at 10pt Best wishes John *🇪🇺 * Слава Україні! * 🇺🇦* <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&

[NTG-context] Re: Processing time

2025-06-20 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
s file location, which I have occasionally had to do for exotic sorts that are rarely required, e.g. (from my days of typesetting the /Medieval Latin Dictionary from British Sources/), in XeTeX style: \font\mldrten="[D:/BACKUPS/FONTBKUP/MLD/MLD-Regular.ttf]" at 10pt Does it make a

[NTG-context] Re: Processing time

2025-06-20 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
dword{abolished} \hyphenatedword{contributes} \stoptext At the moment I am using XeTeX-type font calls while I work out other aspects of ConTexT.  If that is all that is holding things up I can go over to ConTexT's native system  if necessary, though in a typical file header I would have

[NTG-context] Re: Processing time

2025-06-20 Thread John Was
Hello The file uhyphens.tex is just a list of word hyphenations where I don't agree with the breaks that TeX gives (I insist on pre-1980s rules for English!). For example: \hyphenation{% . abo-lished . con-tri-butes . } At the moment I am using XeTeX-type font calls while I

[NTG-context] Re: New user here!

2025-06-16 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
nt a  yogh and am obliged to use a particular typeface (because of house style for a journal or book series) that doesn't have the character, I would give in the file header in XeTeX: \catcode"0292=\active \defʒ{\yogh} (I have \yogh defined as 'put \char"0292 here, groupe

[NTG-context] Re: New user here!

2025-06-16 Thread John Was
Hello Taco That's very interesting - slightly different from XeTeX (\def\def instead of \def, for example), but I think I'll be able to work things out from there. Many thanks. Best wishes John *🇪🇺 * Слава Україні! * 🇺🇦* <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=ema

[NTG-context] Re: New user here!

2025-06-16 Thread John Was
nted that I can't use \catcode = \active to do anything > useful - I do often use that, particularly to fetch a character not in the > typeface. For example, if I want a yogh and am obliged to use a > particular typeface (because of house style for a journal or book series) >

[NTG-context] Re: New user here!

2025-06-16 Thread Taco Hoekwater
I can't use \catcode = \active to do anything useful - > I do often use that, particularly to fetch a character not in the typeface. > For example, if I want a yogh and am obliged to use a particular typeface > (because of house style for a journal or book series) that doesn

[NTG-context] Re: New user here!

2025-06-16 Thread John Was
face (because of house style for a journal or book series) that doesn't have the character, I would give in the file header in XeTeX: \catcode"0292=\active \defʒ{\yogh} (I have \yogh defined as 'put \char"0292 here, grouped within {}, from Junicode'.) That allows me to keep

[NTG-context] Re: Opening quotation mark

2025-06-15 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
font, and that the equivalent in XeTeX works as expected for both opening and closing marks. What you see for the closing quotation mark are two single quotation marks which are the same character as the apostroph but you don't get the correct double quotation mark. While the best solu

[NTG-context] Re: Opening quotation mark

2025-06-15 Thread John Was
Thanks for the prompt response. Something not too obtrusive would be ideal - though of course I could always just introduce the correct opening quotation mark by search and replace. It's odd that trep = yes works for closing quotation marks in this font, and that the equivalent in XeTeX wor

[NTG-context] Opening quotation mark

2025-06-15 Thread John Was
Hello I have found that trep=yes gives me correct closing quotation marks in the commercial font Baskerville MT Pro if I type the simple ' as usual in TeX; but opening quotation marks remain as ` or ``. In XeTeX I could get round this with e.g.: \catcode"0060=\active% 0060 is the po

[NTG-context] Re: New user here!

2025-06-14 Thread John Was
th the fontcall system I'm used to: > >> > >> \font\umirtenpointsevenfive = "MinionPro-Regular:+onum:mapping=tex- > >> text:letterspace=1.6" at 10.75pt > > > > Not clear to me what the second command (after `\font`) means in plain > > Engli

[NTG-context] Re: New user here!

2025-06-14 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
7;t generate an error, but when you actually try to use pstricks it fails - but there will be another way).  Edmac is not likely to be needed for the books I have in mind, but it is essential for editions that I typeset from time to time with XeTeX and I don't think anything else will give

[NTG-context] Re: New user here!

2025-06-14 Thread John Was
to use pstricks it fails - but there will be another way). Edmac is not likely to be needed for the books I have in mind, but it is essential for editions that I typeset from time to time with XeTeX and I don't think anything else will give me the same control (surprisingly, in ConText

[NTG-context] Re: New user here!

2025-06-14 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
ex- text:letterspace=1.6" at 10.75pt Not clear to me what the second command (after `\font`) means in plain English. The context version is \definefont [umirtenpointsevenfive] [file:MinionPro-Regular* at 10.75pt] and it creates the font switch \umirtenpointsevenfive like the x

[NTG-context] Re: New user here!

2025-06-14 Thread Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context
On 6/14/25 12:37, John Was wrote: > Good day, Contexters Hi John, welcome to the mailing list. > I've been using plain TeX for many years (EmTeX, if anyone can remember > that, and latterly XeTeX), but my motivation for getting acquainted with > ConText, rather late in lif

[NTG-context] New user here!

2025-06-14 Thread John Was
Good day, Contexters I've been using plain TeX for many years (EmTeX, if anyone can remember that, and latterly XeTeX), but my motivation for getting acquainted with ConText, rather late in life, is the need to produce tagged PDFs that will be accessible to the visually impaired (generally

[NTG-context] Re: talmudifier

2025-05-04 Thread Mikael Sundqvist
Hi Hraban, On Sun, May 4, 2025 at 6:44 PM Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: > > I found this interesting: https://crates.io/crates/talmudifier > (it uses a Rust version of XeTeX) > > Is such a layout a challenge for the new columns engine? Didn't we discuss this kind of layout at

[NTG-context] talmudifier

2025-05-04 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
I found this interesting: https://crates.io/crates/talmudifier (it uses a Rust version of XeTeX) Is such a layout a challenge for the new columns engine? The description of the algorithm reads like ConTeXt should be able to do it better/faster. Hraban

[NTG-context] update

2025-04-01 Thread Hans Hagen
fonts are implemented like traditional tex fonts. This makes math in the engine behave like xetex. The primitives that relate to controling some aspects of math rendering are obsolete (we also removed experimental additional italics mode code). This change doesn't affect ConTeXt (MkIV) be

[NTG-context] Re: Nāgarī for Academics

2024-08-10 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Jürgen Hanneder via ntg-context schrieb am 10.08.2024 um 11:10: Dear Richard, Are you after a Context version of something such as Xetex Devanagari? https://github.com/wujastyk/xetex-devanagari Indeed. In my XeTeX publications settling the font was quite straightforward: \usepackage

[NTG-context] Re: Nāgarī for Academics

2024-08-10 Thread Jürgen Hanneder via ntg-context
Dear Richard, Are you after a Context version of something such as  Xetex Devanagari? https://github.com/wujastyk/xetex-devanagari Indeed. In my XeTeX publications settling the font was quite straightforward: \usepackage{polyglossia,fontspec,xunicode} \setmainfont{Adobe Text Pro

[NTG-context] Re: Nāgarī for Academics

2024-08-05 Thread Richard Mahoney | Indica et Buddhica via ntg-context
Hello Jürgen, Are you after a Context version of something such as  Xetex Devanagari? https://github.com/wujastyk/xetex-devanagari Best, Richard -- T +6433121699  M +64210640216 rmaho...@indica-et-buddhica.org https://indica-et-buddhica.com/ Indica et Buddhica Littledene  Bay Road  Oxford

[NTG-context] Re: context version 20240118 ("Registerhaltigkeit")

2024-01-23 Thread Thomas Meyer
That's it! Many thanks to Hans, Hraban and especially Wolfgang for his solution. This environment should become part of ConTeXt! I have been a LaTeX/XeTeX/LuaLaTeX user for over 30 years and used it to write my papers during my studies and use it for almost all my writing. Now I wanted t

[NTG-context] Re: Why LuaMetaTex is so slow?

2024-01-18 Thread Aditya Mahajan
5 sec) but LMTX generates more pages so it is > > faster. > > puzzling > > > Of course, this is a meaningless experiment from a practical point of view > > as a 1000 page document will be more complex than just text. > % engine=pdftex 1.2 > % engine=luatmetate

[NTG-context] Re: Why LuaMetaTex is so slow?

2024-01-18 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context
iment from a practical point of view as a 1000 page document will be more complex than just text. % engine=pdftex 1.2 % engine=luatmetatex 1.6 % engine=luatex 1.8 % engine=xetex 2.4 \starttext \dorecurse{500} { \input knuth \par } \stoptext 125 pages, so how does your test

[NTG-context] Re: Toggling the symbol for the zero-width joiner and related Unicode control characters

2023-09-23 Thread Hamid,Idris
8 AM Subject [NTG-context] Re: Toggling the symbol for the zero-width joiner and related Unicode control characters (It seems he never considered making it an opentype feature in the font itself, but since his focus is/was XeTeX/HB (HB is rather rigid and dictatorial) I guess that's not surpri

[NTG-context] Re: Toggling the symbol for the zero-width joiner and related Unicode control characters

2023-09-22 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context
lt, as do other Arabic fonts. (It seems he never considered making it an opentype feature in the font itself, but since his focus is/was XeTeX/HB (HB is rather rigid and dictatorial) I guess that's not surprising.) I admit that I don't follow what happens with xetex (they changed the

[NTG-context] Re: Toggling the symbol for the zero-width joiner and related Unicode control characters

2023-09-22 Thread Hamid,Idris
s he never considered making it an opentype feature in the font itself, but since his focus is/was XeTeX/HB (HB is rather rigid and dictatorial) I guess that's not surprising.) But therein lies the problem: ConTeXt shows the rendering by default, and we need to turn it off. Since most non-

Re: [NTG-context] Off topic: Does a 'free for commercial use' flared-sans font exist in the world?

2023-06-18 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context
d plans at meetings. Also keep in mind that we're talking frontend here; omega is dvi based so like regular tex and etex whatever it does with fonts is not really related to the engine bu tup to the backend: the engine only needs metrics (omega extended tfm into ofm for that). pdftex brought

Re: [NTG-context] Off topic: Does a 'free for commercial use' flared-sans font exist in the world?

2023-06-18 Thread Carlos via ntg-context
rbon footprint lasted more on books than on shelves really, not for selling out fast but rather discontinued quickly) and that its goal was solely within this input processing spectrum. Because it wasn't. Or heck or heck. Let's go even further. By making the dubious assertion that we'

Re: [NTG-context] Off topic: Does a 'free for commercial use' flared-sans font exist in the world?

2023-06-17 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context
processing and th efont part was mostly going beyond 8 bit fonts but i might have missed something (omega was never productin ready). It is xetex that hooked into opentype although pdftex can actually deal with truetype fonts to some extend. Before there was something 'opentype

Re: [NTG-context] Workshop at FrOSCon

2022-07-09 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context
ng if LuaTeX is better than pdfTeX/XeTeX, and some are complaining that LuaLaTeX is too slow, of course...) HR ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-co

Re: [NTG-context] Transliteration

2022-02-03 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context
ns at once is definitely the correct approach. That's what the rest of the TeX world already does (at least LuaTeX and XeTeX; pdfTeX not of course), see https://github.com/hyphenation/tex-hyphen/blob/master/hyph-utf8/tex/generic/hyph-utf8/loadhyph/loadhyph-sr-latn.tex We have two s

Re: [NTG-context] Transliteration

2022-02-03 Thread Mojca Miklavec via ntg-context
Yes, loading both patterns at once is definitely the correct approach. That's what the rest of the TeX world already does (at least LuaTeX and XeTeX; pdfTeX not of course), see https://github.com/hyphenation/tex-hyphen/blob/master/hyph-utf8/tex/generic/hyph-utf8/loadhyph/loadhyph-sr-latn.tex

Re: [NTG-context] new upload

2022-01-23 Thread kauśika via ntg-context
; seen from the user side. > > In my case things improved when I switched to Adishila (in XeTeX): > > \newfontfamily\sanskritfont[Script=Devanagari,Mapping=RomDev,Scale=1.45]{Adi > shilaSan} > > This is, to my taste, the nicest Sanskrit font, but it is difficult to >

Re: [NTG-context] new upload

2022-01-23 Thread hanneder--- via ntg-context
ave to do with the Devanagarī font, or its interaction with (Xe)TeX. Perhaps this is the same phenomenon seen from the user side. In my case things improved when I switched to Adishila (in XeTeX): \newfontfamily\sanskritfont[Script=Devanagari,Mapping=RomDev,Scale=1.45]{AdishilaSan} This is, to

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-10 Thread Jean-Pierre Delange via ntg-context
). See there : https://ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/xetex/hyphenation/sanhyph And his involvement in the discussion about Devanagari romanisation for translitteration and/or specific UTF8 specification in order to respect Devanagari and Brahmi hyphenation with XeTeX. https://tug.org/pipermail

Re: [NTG-context] problem with MkIV/TeXlive/TEXMFCACHE

2021-08-30 Thread Rainer J.H. Brandt via ntg-context
/sbin:/Users/rjhb/doc/cvs/rjhb/perl5/bin:.:/Applications/Qt/current/clang_64/bin:/usr/X11/bin dvipdfmx: /opt/local/bin/dvipdfmx dvips: /opt/local/bin/dvips fmtutil: /opt/local/bin/fmtutil kpsewhich: /opt/local/bin/kpsewhich luatex: /opt/local/bin/luatex mktexpk

Re: [NTG-context] Unicode normalization and Hebrew in ConTeXt

2021-08-18 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context
mplex font context agreed more often with uniscribe than xetex, but in the end on ehas to make the font okay for all i guess). When we started with opentype (luatex showed up in 2005) we took uniscribe as reference so that is our benchmark. And lack of specs made us figure out things stepwise. No

Re: [NTG-context] Trouble with using predefined typescript files

2021-06-15 Thread Hans Hagen
ke the book said? These are ‘predefined typescripts’ as the book said after all. Thanks. I use MacOS if that helps current version of ConTeXt: 2021.03.05 19:11 looks like you combine some mkii examples (xtx is a mkii xetex file, and there is no gyr) with mkiv Here is a simple way: \definefontfeature

Re: [NTG-context] Issue running ConTeXt from TeX Live 2019 on Alpine Linux 3.12

2021-05-01 Thread Nicola
// TEXINPUTS.luajittex = $TEXMFDOTDIR;$TEXMF/tex/{luatex,plain,generic,latex,}// TEXINPUTS.luahbtex= $TEXMFDOTDIR;$TEXMF/tex/{luatex,plain,generic,latex,}// TEXINPUTS.luajithbtex = $TEXMFDOTDIR;$TEXMF/tex/{luatex,plain,generic,latex,}// TEXINPUTS.dviluatex = $

Re: [NTG-context] Issue running ConTeXt from TeX Live 2019 on Alpine Linux 3.12

2021-05-01 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 at 20:53, Nicola wrote: > > This installs and configures repos for Alpine Linux 3.12. Then, > I install TeX Live as follows: > > apk add texlive-full texlive-xetex texlive-luatex texlive-dev > apk add ghostscript ghostscript-fonts ghostscript

[NTG-context] Issue running ConTeXt from TeX Live 2019 on Alpine Linux 3.12

2021-04-30 Thread Nicola
quot;; | tee -a /etc/apk/repositories apk update This installs and configures repos for Alpine Linux 3.12. Then, I install TeX Live as follows: apk add texlive-full texlive-xetex texlive-luatex texlive-dev apk add ghostscript ghostscript-fonts ghostscript-dev apk add graphics

[NTG-context] Luatex 1.13.0 announcement.

2021-03-28 Thread luigi scarso
implemented in pdftex and xetex. Two TeX January 2021 DEK buglet fixes (H.Hagen) Mark math glyphs as protected (in order to prevent processing as text in base mode). Removed width/ic compensation for traditional math code path. When restricted system commands is enabled os.setenv has no effect

[NTG-context] tex live code freeze

2021-03-05 Thread Hans Hagen
Hi, The 2021 texlive code is currently being frozen. This means that Mojca will check-in the current context release right before tl gets deep frozen. The MKII code (mkii and mpii files) hasn't changed so it should still work well with pdftex and xetex although I admit that I haven'

Re: [NTG-context] composing commands

2021-02-05 Thread Hans Hagen
: new method (more lmtx-ish) (actually with mkii in pdftex we need .3 seconds, xetex freezes with 100K but needs 0.53 for 10K, luatex needs 0.18) but I'm sure you don't care much about that so I just implements a variant with warning which takes .19 seconds per 100K so it's a nic

Re: [NTG-context] LMTX isn't typesetting math correctly with Pagella

2021-01-18 Thread Mikael Sundqvist
t; school which work ok for virtual constructs that only use those 8 bit > fonts but often fail for gyre fonts) > > now, the gust foundation fonts are a mix: they are opentype, have its > parameters and properties but have the wrong width and assume the italic > hackery > > the micros

Re: [NTG-context] LMTX isn't typesetting math correctly with Pagella

2021-01-17 Thread Hans Hagen
ow, the gust foundation fonts are a mix: they are opentype, have its parameters and properties but have the wrong width and assume the italic hackery the microsoft cambria font is the reference for opentype math (and to some extend microsoft word also is) afaik xetex uses the old tex approa

Re: [NTG-context] a new book has been published, made with the help of ConTeXt

2020-12-23 Thread Robert Zydenbos
n for a similar book? I submitted the PDF to the publisher already last August. At the time I was not yet aware of this happy development in MkIV, and so the book was made with MkII using XeTeX as the backend. But in view of the various advances that were made with MkIV, I hope to make the next boo

[NTG-context] a new book has been published, made with the help of ConTeXt

2020-12-19 Thread Robert Zydenbos
uggestions). For those who are curious how I used ConTeXt MkII with the XeTeX backend, a sample chapter is available at http://e.pc.cd/XlhotalK (and then click on "Direkt herunterladen"). Robert Zydenbos ___ If

[NTG-context] \XeTeX\ misbehaving

2020-12-04 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
Hans, just accidentally, I discovered that \XeTeX\ misbehaves: \starttext \input{zapf} \XETEX\ \input{knuth} \stoptext BTW, this is the MWE after I saw http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/luametatex.pdf#page=15. I hope it helps, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk

Re: [NTG-context] new upload

2020-11-26 Thread Keith McKay
(In the process I saw that I bugged the xetex logo but that has to wait for a next upload. Hardly critital I suspect.) Hans -   Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE   Ridderstraat 27 | 8

Re: [NTG-context] new upload

2020-11-25 Thread Giulio Bertellini
p less but who knows. It's not easy to squeeze out > more (the bottleneck is in the lua code as the (con)tex(t) code is > pretty efficient so we pay a price for flexibility). > > (In the process I saw that I bugged the xetex logo

[NTG-context] new upload

2020-11-24 Thread Hans Hagen
ex(t) code is pretty efficient so we pay a price for flexibility). (In the process I saw that I bugged the xetex logo but that has to wait for a next upload. Hardly critital I suspec

Re: [NTG-context] Adding built-in support for Serbian language

2020-10-30 Thread Mojca Miklavec
improved. There's no reason why it wouldn't load both scripts at the same time (at least for Unicode engines, which is the only thing that's currently supported anyway). This is what XeTeX loads, for example: https://github.com/hyphenation/tex-hyphen/blob/master/hyph-utf8/tex/gen

Re: [NTG-context] Join Foundation to Support ConTeXt for the next 50 Years

2020-10-18 Thread Henri Menke
p and also The Tectonic Typesetting System ( > https://tectonic-typesetting.github.io/en-US/). What are you even talking about? ConTeXt has been using a forked TeX engine for at least a decade. LuaTeX is solely developed by and for the ConTeXt people. BTW, SILE is something completely different (and can't

Re: [NTG-context] About vertical typesetting in ConTeXt

2020-08-04 Thread Jairo A. del Rio
dentLine >> >> > above\\% to demonstrate that the lines are being stacked as >> > normal\rotatebox{-90}{%\XeTeXupwardsmode1\\% successive lines will be >> > stacked upwards instead of downwards\begin{minipage}{4em}% this will be >> > the vertical length o

Re: [NTG-context] About vertical typesetting in ConTeXt

2020-06-10 Thread Hans Hagen
ᡤᡳᠰᡠᠨ\\% direct Unicode input of Manchu letters2 ᠮᠠᠨᠵᡠ ᡤᡳᠰᡠᠨ }% End font\end{minipage}\XeTeXupwardsmode0 }% End rotatebox\noindentLine underneath \end{document}| and I see XeTeX uses the primitive |\XeTeXupwardsmodeand some other tricks to get the proper display of Manchu text, so maybe MKII can do

[NTG-context] About vertical typesetting in ConTeXt

2020-06-09 Thread Jairo A. del Rio
ᡤᡳᠰᡠᠨ}% End font\end{minipage}\XeTeXupwardsmode0}% End rotatebox \noindent Line underneath\end{document} and I see XeTeX uses the primitive \XeTeXupwardsmode and some other tricks to get the proper display of Manchu text, so maybe MKII can do the magic using XeTeX as an engine. How would one use Co

Re: [NTG-context] Retrieving original value of enviroment variable HOME

2020-05-10 Thread context
e context(environment.oldhome or "??") \stopluacode \stoptext ChkEnv.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document -- generator : luat-sta.lua -- state tag : whatever return { ["context"]={ ["version"]="beta", }, ["engines"]={ ["luatex&

Re: [NTG-context] lmtx vs mkiv

2020-04-18 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
ngine=luatex" at the top line of the source file (but no pdftex and xetex in this installer). FWIW, the lmtx installation ships with the latest experimental luatex binary but normally that should not have consequences, but it does permits testing occasional updates. Hans The binary f

Re: [NTG-context] lmtx vs mkiv

2020-04-05 Thread Axel Kielhorn
e > the engine in the usual way with "% engine=luatex" at the top line of the > source file (but no pdftex and xetex in this installer). I updated LMTX on MacOSX 10.13 today. The luatex binary in not executable, thus when I run axel$ context --luatex --version mtx-context

[NTG-context] lmtx vs mkiv

2020-04-03 Thread Hans Hagen
ource file (but no pdftex and xetex in this installer). FWIW, the lmtx installation ships with the latest experimental luatex binary but normally that should not have consequences, but it does permits testing occasional updat

Re: [NTG-context] Question to installation ConTeXt from TeXlive

2020-03-01 Thread Tomas Hala
phics, images, diagrams # # probably no # # >? Math, nat. sci., comp. sci. # # no, context stuff comes with context already # # >? Music # # unlikely # # >? Necessary programmes and files # # what is that # # >? PSTricks # # only if used # # >? Additional

Re: [NTG-context] Question to installation ConTeXt from TeXlive

2020-02-18 Thread Hans Hagen
? SW for graphics and fonts no ? XeTeX etc. not for mkiv Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69

[NTG-context] Question to installation ConTeXt from TeXlive

2020-02-18 Thread Tomas Hala
? SW for graphics and fonts ? XeTeX etc. Thanks in advance. (After completion I can put it on the wiki.) Best wishes, Tomáš ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki

Re: [NTG-context] beta vs current

2020-01-30 Thread Hans Hagen
rse be the yearly tex live snapshots and these will have the year attached to them. So, effectively nothing changes, apart from the fact that we no longer use the labels (and distinction on the website). I like this change. A more fundamental distinction is between the versions: pdftex|xetex

Re: [NTG-context] beta vs current

2020-01-30 Thread Henri Menke
he website). > > I like this change. > >> A more fundamental distinction is between the versions: >> >> pdftex|xetex : mkii (probaly not used that much any longer) >> luatex|luajittex : mkiv (also the test for luatex dev) >> luametatex : lmtx (the

Re: [NTG-context] beta vs current

2020-01-30 Thread Aditya Mahajan
them. So, effectively nothing changes, apart from the fact that we no longer use the labels (and distinction on the website). I like this change. A more fundamental distinction is between the versions: pdftex|xetex : mkii (probaly not used that much any longer) luatex|luajittex : mkiv (also th

[NTG-context] beta vs current

2020-01-30 Thread Hans Hagen
t from the fact that we no longer use the labels (and distinction on the website). A more fundamental distinction is between the versions: pdftex|xetex : mkii (probaly not used that much any longer) luatex|luajittex : mkiv (also the test for luatex dev) luametatex : lmtx (the (upcoming)

Re: [NTG-context] Loading OTF fonts?

2019-09-12 Thread Jean-Pierre Delange
; >> Can someone give me an explanation of what I did wrong? Hit me with all the >> technical concepts. I’m competent with fontspec on XeTeX. >> >> Step 1: Copy NotoSerifCJKsc-Regular.otf to ~/context/tex/texmf-local/fonts >> >> Step 2: Run `mtxrun --script font --conver

Re: [NTG-context] Loading OTF fonts?

2019-09-12 Thread Jon Wong
.stackexchange.com/questions/453143/noto-cjk-font-not-usable-with-context > > <https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/453143/noto-cjk-font-not-usable-with-context> > > Can someone give me an explanation of what I did wrong? Hit me with all the > technical concepts. I’m compet

[NTG-context] Loading OTF fonts?

2019-09-12 Thread Jon Wong
ll the technical concepts. I’m competent with fontspec on XeTeX. Step 1: Copy NotoSerifCJKsc-Regular.otf to ~/context/tex/texmf-local/fonts Step 2: Run `mtxrun --script font --convert NotoSerifCJKsc-Regular.otf' Step 3: Run `mtxrun —script fonts --reload’ Step 4: Run `context test.tex’

Re: [NTG-context] texexec is deprecated?

2019-08-12 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Mon, 12 Aug 2019 at 13:42, Jon Wong wrote: > > I was able to use `context’ but not `texexec’. The latter (`texexec —pdf > test.tex’) tells me that some format file (`cont-en.fmt’) can’t be found. > > Is `texexec’ obsolete? texexec is only for Mark II (8-bit pdfTeX, XeTeX)

Re: [NTG-context] mkii to mkiv - what an ancient user needs to know

2019-06-12 Thread Duncan Hothersall
t because font encodings are > gone and input is utf8 by default that might need to be changed. > Structure has more options. I think the biggest conceptual change in the > setups has been the way footnotes are co

Re: [NTG-context] mkii to mkiv - what an ancient user needs to know

2019-06-12 Thread Hans Hagen
e options. I think the biggest conceptual change in the setups has been the way footnotes are configured. Of course there are new commands too. So, a small example triggering the issue would help, Hans ps. Of course the biggest change is that luatex is

Re: [NTG-context] Fontloader

2019-05-26 Thread Hans Hagen
ligatures especially for the keys above 0x However, I cannot get it run with latest mkiv. It is no problem with xetex. It should print only the five keys and not the ones for every single letter. Herbert \font\keyboard=LibertinusKeyboard-Regular.otf \starttext \keyboard Tab Entf Enter Capslock

[NTG-context] Fontloader

2019-05-25 Thread Herbert Voss
However, I cannot get it run with latest mkiv. It is no problem with xetex. It should print only the five keys and not the ones for every single letter. Herbert \font\keyboard=LibertinusKeyboard-Regular.otf \starttext \keyboard Tab Entf Enter Capslock Windows \stoptext

Re: [NTG-context] optional hyphenation patterns in ancient Greek

2019-03-25 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
a remnant from Mark II, as in pdfTeX and XeTeX it would have resulted in an error; in ConTeXt it just becomes a no-op, which thus shadows LuaTeX’s behaviour that could actually have been useful. The situation in Mark IV is documented in languages-mkiv.pdf which is part of the distribution: Hans re

Re: [NTG-context] cross references to chapters in a book

2019-02-25 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
On 2/23/19 10:51 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > [...] >> Is this because I am using MkII with XeTeX? > > Is there a reason why you stick with MkII or XeTeX. Hi Wolfgang, support for Indic languages seems to be the reason to use MkII. Pablo -- http

Re: [NTG-context] cross references to chapters in a book

2019-02-23 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
; but keep getting "chapter 4.0". You have to create a minimal working example for this because I can’t tell why you get this output. Is this because I am using MkII with XeTeX? Is there a reason why you stick with MkII

Re: [NTG-context] cross references to chapters in a book

2019-02-22 Thread Robert Zydenbos
"chapter 4.0". > > Is this because I am using MkII with XeTeX? > > Robert > >> On 22. Feb 2019, at 20:47, Wolfgang Schuster >> wrote: >> >> Robert Zydenbos schrieb am 22.02.19 um 17:14: >>> Dear wizards of ConTeXt, >>> In the final

Re: [NTG-context] cross references to chapters in a book

2019-02-22 Thread Robert Zydenbos
s because I am using MkII with XeTeX? Robert > On 22. Feb 2019, at 20:47, Wolfgang Schuster > wrote: > > Robert Zydenbos schrieb am 22.02.19 um 17:14: >> Dear wizards of ConTeXt, >> In the final stage of completing a book project, I was wondering how to >> aut

[NTG-context] upcoming betas

2018-12-05 Thread Hans Hagen
Hi We currently have mkii : which uses pdftex/xetex mkiv : which uses lua(jit)tex 1.10 and next year we will also have lmtx : which runs luatex functionally there is no difference between mkiv and lmtx but there are some diferences under the hood. It might also turn out to be a bit

Re: [NTG-context] improving kannada script

2018-11-02 Thread luigi scarso
tem commands --shell-restrictedrestrict system commands to a list of commands given in texmf.cnf are part of the picture. Hans and I have to discuss this point. Just to say: on my linux box, xetex from the official deb package has not hb hardcoded: # ldd `which xetex ` linux-vds

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