Re: [NTG-context] Why do \startlines and \crlf give different results in this example?

2011-03-12 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 12.03.2011 um 05:48 schrieb mathew: % First request no space before \setuplines[before=\nowhitespace,after=\nowhitespace] % Now use startlines... \framed[width=fit,align=right]{\startlines One Two Three\stoplines} \framed [width=fit,align=right,strut=no]

Re: [NTG-context] Am not getting Roman numeral page numbers in MKIV

2011-03-12 Thread Jeong Dalyoung
Dear Tom, Since I am an enduser of ConTeXt, I couldn't expalin what happens here. I just run your code in the mail and got the following results. 1. Front matter page numbers are not lower-case Roman numerals although they are listed as such in the TOC. The Roman numerals in both front

Re: [NTG-context] change interwordspace twice

2011-03-12 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Am 11.03.2011 um 19:56 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: Am 11.03.2011 um 12:36 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum: Hi, one time it works, the second it doesn't: \starttext \interwordspace 20.7pt Big Space \par \interwordspace 2.7pt Big Space \par \interwordspace 20.7pt Big Space

[NTG-context] Portable Context

2011-03-12 Thread Siep Kroonenberg
For a usb stick install, it would be nice if there were no hard-coded paths anywhere. A texmfcnf.lua with content return { TEXMFCACHE = kpse.var_value('TEXMFSYSVAR') } appears to be read but ignored. Moreover, the fndb lua files under luatex-cache/context/xxx/trees contain hard-coded paths.

Re: [NTG-context] Portable Context

2011-03-12 Thread luigi scarso
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Siep Kroonenberg si...@cybercomm.nl wrote: For a usb stick install, it would be nice if there were no hard-coded paths anywhere. A texmfcnf.lua with content return {  TEXMFCACHE = kpse.var_value('TEXMFSYSVAR') } appears to be read but ignored. Moreover,

Re: [NTG-context] Portable Context

2011-03-12 Thread Siep Kroonenberg
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 10:44:49AM +0100, luigi scarso wrote: On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Siep Kroonenberg si...@cybercomm.nl wrote: For a usb stick install, it would be nice if there were no hard-coded paths anywhere. A texmfcnf.lua with content return {  TEXMFCACHE =

Re: [NTG-context] \setuppublications problem

2011-03-12 Thread Thomas Schmitz
On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 08:37:28 +0100 Jean Magnan de Bornier jm.born...@free.fr wrote: Fair enough. Here: . \setupbibtex [database=/home/jean/biblio] \setuppublications[alternative=apa] \starttext {\bf Bibliography} \nocite[hh2010a,hh2010b,Eijkhout1991]

Re: [NTG-context] \setuppublications problem

2011-03-12 Thread Jean Magnan de Bornier
Le 12 mars à 11:09:55 Thomas Schmitz tschm...@uni-bonn.de écrit notamment: | On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 08:37:28 +0100 | Jean Magnan de Bornier jm.born...@free.fr wrote: | Fair enough. Here: | . | \setupbibtex [database=/home/jean/biblio] |

Re: [NTG-context] \setuppublications problem

2011-03-12 Thread Florian Wobbe
Have you tried \placepublications[criterium=all] or \placepublications[criterium=text]? Hi Thomas, you gave me exactly the same hint last week. We should add criterium=cite and criterium=text to the Wiki (Bibliography MKIV page: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Bibliography_mkiv). In the

Re: [NTG-context] \setuppublications problem

2011-03-12 Thread Thomas Schmitz
Hi Florian, On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:45:16 +0100 Florian Wobbe florian.wo...@awi.de wrote: Have you tried \placepublications[criterium=all] or \placepublications[criterium=text]? Hi Thomas, you gave me exactly the same hint last week. Not only that, but someone gave exactly the same hint

Re: [NTG-context] cals tables

2011-03-12 Thread R. Ermers
Dear all, First the good news: I have succeeded in typesetting a table! I first changed all tag names from table, entry, row to cals:table, cals:entry, cals:row, etc. Then the table is read in. However, the table setup cannot be manipulated by means of the directives, because - according to

[NTG-context] why this error?

2011-03-12 Thread Hans van der Meer
Not so long ago no problems with typesetting. OK in ConTeXt ver: 2011.02.05 11:37 MKIV fmt: 2011.2.5 int: english/english Now in: ConTeXt ver: 2011.02.25 22:03 MKIV fmt: 2011.3.11 int: english/english an error: (.././literature.tex resolversmodules loaded: 'bib'

Re: [NTG-context] change interwordspace twice

2011-03-12 Thread Andreas Harder
Am 12.03.2011 um 10:01 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum: Am 11.03.2011 um 19:56 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: Am 11.03.2011 um 12:36 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum: Hi, one time it works, the second it doesn't: \starttext \interwordspace 20.7pt Big Space \par \interwordspace 2.7pt Big

[NTG-context] Ideas for restructuring the ConTeXt garden?

2011-03-12 Thread Florian Wobbe
Maybe we should start a discussion in a new thread to find out: 1) why users are confused with mkiv/mkii? 2) why they my be reluctant to install the minimals? 3) how to restructure the garden to make things clearer for newcomers? 4) how do users look for information and how to optimise the garden

[NTG-context] renderbuttons where?

2011-03-12 Thread Hans van der Meer
\button{\symbol[StartRendering]} [StartRendering{#1}]\enspace \button{\symbol[StopRendering]} [StopRendering{#1}]\enspace \button{\symbol[PauseRendering]} [PauseRendering{#1}]\enspace \button{\symbol[ResumeRendering]}[ResumeRendering{#1}]}} The above statements used

Re: [NTG-context] Ideas for restructuring the ConTeXt garden?

2011-03-12 Thread Marco
On 2011-03-12 Florian Wobbe florian.wo...@awi.de wrote: Maybe we should start a discussion in a new thread to find out: 1) why users are confused with mkiv/mkii? Because the old manuals only mention mkii and many things have changed in mkiv and don't work in mkii. It is not easy for

[NTG-context] movies no longer recognized?

2011-03-12 Thread Hans van der Meer
This used to work: \defineoverlay[tannenberg][% {\externalfigure[tannenberg.jpg][width=\overlaywidth,height=\overlayheight]}] \hfill\framed[offset=0pt,strut=no,background={foreground,tannenberg}] {\externalfigure[%

[NTG-context] hanging on missing picture

2011-03-12 Thread Hans van der Meer
Requesting a non-existing picture does not produce a warning message, but makes ConTeXt hang. An abort is the only thing that helps. It would however be nice if a missing file warning is given. A minimal example that shows me the hang: \starttext Hello a picture?\par

Re: [NTG-context] hanging on missing picture

2011-03-12 Thread Taco Hoekwater
On 12 mrt. 2011, at 14:23, Hans van der Meer h.vanderm...@uva.nl wrote: Requesting a non-existing picture does not produce a warning message, but makes ConTeXt hang. An abort is the only thing that helps. It would however be nice if a missing file warning is given. A minimal example that

Re: [NTG-context] Am not getting Roman numeral page numbers in MKIV

2011-03-12 Thread Tom
Thank you for taking the time to look into this for me, Dalyoung. I changed bodymatter to bodypart in two places and got the same results as you did. Page numbering is reset to 1 for the Introduction. However, I still don't get Roman numerals in the front part and, as you also experienced, the TOC

[NTG-context] no mp4 recognized?

2011-03-12 Thread Hans van der Meer
Doesn't ConTeXt recognize .mp4 as movie suffix? Hans van der Meer ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl /

Re: [NTG-context] Portable Context

2011-03-12 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 10:53, Siep Kroonenberg wrote: Is there any way to avoid hard-coded paths? Isn't minimals path-aware ? With setuptex I can put context wherever I want. This is in the context of TeX Live. But I'll have a look at how minimals does it. This has been changed after the

Re: [NTG-context] hanging on missing picture

2011-03-12 Thread Otared Kavian
Hi, On my installation of ConTeXt, there is no hanging: maybe there is an issue with your intsllation? The output shows a grey rectangle with name : dummy file: figure state: unknown written on it. For your information, I tested your code on a Mac OS X 10.6.6 and the

Re: [NTG-context] hanging on missing picture

2011-03-12 Thread Hans van der Meer
Well, here it does hang. I also have MacOSX 10.6.6 but then I have the minimals ver: 2011.02.05 11:37 MKIV fmt: 2011.2.5. The later version: ConTeXt ver: 2011.02.25 22:03 MKIV fmt: 2011.3.11 does work as advertised though. Pity I have to use the older version until another incompatibility

Re: [NTG-context] Ideas for restructuring the ConTeXt garden?

2011-03-12 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 14:05, Marco wrote: On 2011-03-12 Florian Wobbe wrote: Then I am aware of many people who are reluctant to install the minimals. I now wonder why I (myself) was unwilling to install the minimals in the first place, having TeXLive installed already. For one it was

[NTG-context] module bib outdated?

2011-03-12 Thread Hans van der Meer
I suspect the cause of the problem in an earlier post is due to the line: \usemodule [bib] resulting in an error about an outdated module. What should I use instead? Hans van der Meer ___ If your question is of

Re: [NTG-context] hanging on missing picture

2011-03-12 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 14:39, Taco Hoekwater wrote: On 12 mrt. 2011, at 14:23, Hans van der Meer wrote: Requesting a non-existing picture does not produce a warning message, but makes ConTeXt hang. An abort is the only thing that helps. It would however be nice if a missing file warning is

Re: [NTG-context] module bib outdated?

2011-03-12 Thread Vedran Miletić
2011/3/12 Hans van der Meer h.vanderm...@uva.nl I suspect the cause of the problem in an earlier post is due to the line: \usemodule [bib] resulting in an error about an outdated module. What should I use instead? I believe that bib is now part of the core, so that line isn't necessary.

Re: [NTG-context] hanging on missing picture

2011-03-12 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 15:27, Hans van der Meer h.vanderm...@uva.nl wrote: Well, here it does hang. I also have MacOSX 10.6.6 but then I have the minimals  ver: 2011.02.05 11:37 MKIV  fmt: 2011.2.5. The later version: ConTeXt  ver: 2011.02.25 22:03 MKIV  fmt: 2011.3.11 does work as

Re: [NTG-context] missing colon in lucida mkii

2011-03-12 Thread Mojca Miklavec
Dear Hans, there is a block of code that is commented out in math-lbr: \startmathcollection[lbr] \definemathcharacter [:] [punct] [tf] [3A] % unbelievable \definemathcharacter [;] [punct] [tf] [3B] % unbelievable \stopmathcollection As a consequence I get a dot instead of colon with $a:b$.

Re: [NTG-context] hanging on missing picture

2011-03-12 Thread Otared Kavian
Hi, I did the test with your code both with mkii and mkiv (version 2011.02.25, 22:03). In mkii I get what I reported previously and in mkiv I get: name : dummy file: ./Figuren/figure.xxx state: unknown I have noticed the hanging behaviour of mkiv in some other

Re: [NTG-context] why this error?

2011-03-12 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 12:56, Hans van der Meer h.vanderm...@uva.nl wrote: Not so long ago no problems with typesetting. OK in ConTeXt  ver: 2011.02.05 11:37 MKIV  fmt: 2011.2.5  int: english/english Now in: ConTeXt  ver: 2011.02.25 22:03 MKIV  fmt: 2011.3.11  int: english/english an

Re: [NTG-context] Why do \startlines and \crlf give different results in this example?

2011-03-12 Thread mathew
On Mar 12, 2011, at 02:15, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: \framed [width=fit,align=right,strut=no] {\startlines[before=,after=] One Two Three \stoplines} Awesome, thanks. I added a note to the wiki page about \framed, and subsequently discovered the information was hidden on the page

Re: [NTG-context] change interwordspace twice

2011-03-12 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 12.03.2011 um 13:04 schrieb Andreas Harder: Am 12.03.2011 um 10:01 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum: Is there only one space or s is possible to set more fine-tuned values? You can define your own space. \definetolerancemethod [horizontal] [smallspace] {\spaceskip.2em plus.1em

Re: [NTG-context] \setuppublications problem

2011-03-12 Thread John Haltiwanger
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 6:08 AM, Thomas Schmitz tschm...@uni-bonn.dewrote: Hi Florian, On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:45:16 +0100 Florian Wobbe florian.wo...@awi.de wrote: Have you tried \placepublications[criterium=all] or \placepublications[criterium=text]? We should add criterium=cite

Re: [NTG-context] change interwordspace twice

2011-03-12 Thread Andreas Harder
Am 12.03.2011 um 17:00 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: Am 12.03.2011 um 13:04 schrieb Andreas Harder: Am 12.03.2011 um 10:01 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum: Is there only one space or s is possible to set more fine-tuned values? You can define your own space. \definetolerancemethod

Re: [NTG-context] Ideas for restructuring the ConTeXt garden?

2011-03-12 Thread Procházka Lukáš
Hello, my personal opinion(s) (some of them very similar to Marco's ones): 1) why users are confused with mkiv/mkii? (Cannot say; I started with MkIV so for me ConTeXt = MkIV.) 2) why they my be reluctant to install the minimals? The word minimals is a bit confusing. It implies that

Re: [NTG-context] renderbuttons where?

2011-03-12 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 12.03.2011 um 13:40 schrieb Hans van der Meer: \button{\symbol[StartRendering]} [StartRendering{#1}]\enspace \button{\symbol[StopRendering]} [StopRendering{#1}]\enspace \button{\symbol[PauseRendering]} [PauseRendering{#1}]\enspace

Re: [NTG-context] Pagination problem with an intermezzo containing a footnote

2011-03-12 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 11.03.2011 um 20:54 schrieb mathew: \starttext This is a sample document to demonstrate a possible bug. You will probably see a footnote below which appears before the page it's referenced from. \placeintermezzo[page][block:example]{Demonstrating a bug}

[NTG-context] Minimals installation problem

2011-03-12 Thread Tom
After installing Minimals apparently successfully on a Windows Vista system, I got the following messages when executing context hello: MTXrun | forcing cache reload MTXrun | resolvers: loading configuration file 'C:/Context/tex/texmf/web2c/texmfcnf.lua' MTXrun | resolvers MTXrun | resolvers

Re: [NTG-context] change interwordspace twice

2011-03-12 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Am 12.03.2011 um 17:04 schrieb Andreas Harder: Am 12.03.2011 um 17:00 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: Am 12.03.2011 um 13:04 schrieb Andreas Harder: Am 12.03.2011 um 10:01 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum: Is there only one space or s is possible to set more fine-tuned values? You can define

Re: [NTG-context] Verbatim text: intext colors (mkiv)

2011-03-12 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 11.03.2011 um 20:46 schrieb Reviczky, Adam: Line numbers in the text as well as Works here with the last beta. I'm using the latest beta too. Attached is my PDF, do you get something different? I want to have intext numbers (inside the frame), not outside. As I said, works with mkii

Re: [NTG-context] Verbatim text: intext colors (mkiv)

2011-03-12 Thread Reviczky, Adam
I’m Sorry, I missed the intext part. For MkIV you need “location=text” to move the numbers in the text. Yeah, I just figured it out, though there's still a % todo: text in page-lin.mkiv, but it works. Wolfgang Thanks again. Adam

Re: [NTG-context] Ideas for restructuring the ConTeXt garden?

2011-03-12 Thread Jaroslav Hajtmar
Hello ConTeXist. I installed ConTeXt minimals until pretty late. Before, I used the context in the TeXLive. For a long time I really thought that Minimals are incomplete versions of minimal and that there was something more. I was very pleasantly surprised at how easily Minimals installed and

Re: [NTG-context] Ideas for restructuring the ConTeXt garden?

2011-03-12 Thread C.
Hello, I recently started using context. I migrated from latex to xelatex to context. Mainly because of the better font support. I now value context also for its superior abilities. I feel that I can do more stuff without the use of \usepackage for this, \usepackage for that. When I read the

Re: [NTG-context] Portable Context

2011-03-12 Thread Siep Kroonenberg
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 03:03:34PM +0100, Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 10:53, Siep Kroonenberg wrote: Is there any way to avoid hard-coded paths? Isn't minimals path-aware ? With setuptex I can put context wherever I want. This is in the context of TeX Live. But I'll

Re: [NTG-context] Ideas for restructuring the ConTeXt garden?

2011-03-12 Thread Pontus Lurcock
On Sat 12 Mar 2011, C. wrote: 2) why they my be reluctant to install the minimals? Because they already have it in miktex, texlive. What they don't know is that these versions are outdated and due to the heavy development pretty far behind. Plus, it should say Context Standalone because that

Re: [NTG-context] why this error?

2011-03-12 Thread Pontus Lurcock
On Sat 12 Mar 2011, Hans van der Meer wrote: (.././literature.tex resolversmodules loaded: 'bib' (/Users/hans/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/m-obsolete.tex ! Undefined control sequence. I managed to fix this simply by removing the \usemodule[bib] from my source file --

Re: [NTG-context] Ideas for restructuring the ConTeXt garden?

2011-03-12 Thread Henry House
Procházka Lukáš wrote: [...] 5) how to better promote context to new/latex users? For LaTeX incomers: it would be good to provide a sample setup (module?) which would make Ctx generated .pdf looking very closely to that been generated by LaTeX. Now, if you see a .pdf document and you

Re: [NTG-context] Ideas for restructuring the ConTeXt garden?

2011-03-12 Thread mathew
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 06:21, Florian Wobbe florian.wo...@awi.de wrote: Then I am aware of many people who are reluctant to install the minimals. I now wonder why I (myself) was unwilling to install the minimals in the first place, having TeXLive installed already. For one it was because of the

Re: [NTG-context] Ideas for restructuring the ConTeXt garden?

2011-03-12 Thread Pontus Lurcock
On Sat 12 Mar 2011, mathew wrote: My experience on Ubuntu is that if you install the ConTeXt minimals in your path, they break a bunch of stuff from TeXLive, such as pdfcrop. I have the minimals installed but with no automatic setup in .bashrc or similar. So when I need to run ConTeXt, I fire

Re: [NTG-context] Ideas for restructuring the ConTeXt garden?

2011-03-12 Thread luigi scarso
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 6:03 AM, Pontus Lurcock p...@talvi.net wrote: On Sat 12 Mar 2011, mathew wrote: My experience on Ubuntu is that if you install the ConTeXt minimals in your path, they break a bunch of stuff from TeXLive, such as pdfcrop. I have the minimals installed but with no

Re: [NTG-context] Ideas for restructuring the ConTeXt garden?

2011-03-12 Thread Vnpenguin
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 21:08, C. meta...@gmx.de wrote: Hello, I recently started using context. I migrated from latex to xelatex to context. Mainly because of the better font support. I now value context also for its superior abilities. I feel that I can do more stuff without the use of

Re: [NTG-context] Minimals (was: Ideas for restructuring the ConTeXt garden?)

2011-03-12 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Sunday 13 March 2011 07:25:03 luigi scarso wrote: On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 6:03 AM, Pontus Lurcock p...@talvi.net wrote: On Sat 12 Mar 2011, mathew wrote: My experience on Ubuntu is that if you install the ConTeXt minimals in your path, they break a bunch of stuff from TeXLive, such as

Re: [NTG-context] Ideas for restructuring the ConTeXt garden?

2011-03-12 Thread Taco Hoekwater
On 03/13/2011 12:35 AM, Henry House wrote: Procházka Lukáš wrote: [...] 5) how to better promote context to new/latex users? For LaTeX incomers: it would be good to provide a sample setup (module?) which would make Ctx generated .pdf looking very closely to that been generated by LaTeX.

Re: [NTG-context] Minimals

2011-03-12 Thread Taco Hoekwater
On 03/13/2011 08:42 AM, Alan BRASLAU wrote: On Sunday 13 March 2011 07:25:03 luigi scarso wrote: On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 6:03 AM, Pontus Lurcockp...@talvi.net wrote: On Sat 12 Mar 2011, mathew wrote: My experience on Ubuntu is that if you install the ConTeXt minimals in your path, they break