Re: [NTG-context] Line break in a cell of a table

2013-04-17 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Wed, 17 Apr 2013, H. Özoguz wrote:


Good morning together,

I want this:


\starttext

\starttable[|l|l|]

\HL

\NC First Entry \\ (Explanation) \VL Second Entry \AR


(Unrelated, but you are using a wrong syntax. Each row should be:

\NC  \NC ... \NC \AR)


\HL

\stoptable

\stoptext


That is, line break after First Entry, but without leaving the first cell 
(first row, first column). The code does not work, how to?


Use p column instead of l column

\starttable[|p|l|]
...
\stoptable

BTW, I think that it is better to use Natural Table or tabulate instead of 
table environment. For example, you can write:


\startTABLE
\NC First Entry \\ (Explanation) \NC Second Entry \NC \NR
\stopTABLE

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[NTG-context] [***SPAM***] Re: Line break in a cell of a table

2013-04-17 Thread H. Özoguz

BTW, I think that it is better to use Natural Table or tabulate instead of
table environment. For example, you can write:

\startTABLE
\NC First Entry \\ (Explanation) \NC Second Entry \NC \NR
\stopTABLE


Thanks Aditya. Can you give me a short reference to understand the 
difference, what is Natural Table? Is it the same as

\placetable[][]{}{\starttable[]\stoptable}
?

Huseyin

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[NTG-context] [***SPAM***] Finetuning distances in cells

2013-04-17 Thread H. Özoguz

In this example

\starttext
\starttable[|l|c|l|]
\HL
\NC \THREE\JustCenter \it Natürliche Methoden \NC \AR
\HL
\stoptable
\stoptext

(which, by the way, gives an syntax-error with \startTABLE)
the entry Natürliche Methoden is not perfectly vertically centered. 
The distance above to the horizontal line is (very) little smaller than 
the distance at the bottom. How to correct that? Perfectly it would be 
exactly reversed, the distance above should be smaller, than at the bottom.


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Re: [NTG-context] [***SPAM***] Re: Line break in a cell of a table

2013-04-17 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Wed, 17 Apr 2013, H. Özoguz wrote:


BTW, I think that it is better to use Natural Table or tabulate instead of
table environment. For example, you can write:

\startTABLE
\NC First Entry \\ (Explanation) \NC Second Entry \NC \NR
\stopTABLE


Thanks Aditya. Can you give me a short reference to understand the 
difference, what is Natural Table?


See http://wiki.contextgarden.net/TABLE

and

http://tex.stackexchange.com/search?q=user%3A323+[tables]

for examples.


Is it the same as
\placetable[][]{}{\starttable[]\stoptable}
?


No. \placetable is a float mechanism, which can float any \hbox. For 
example, you can use:


   \placetable[..][..]{...}{\hbox{Hello world}}

table, tables, tabulate, linetable, TABLE, xtable, are different wrappers 
around \halign for creating tables. See


http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Tables_Overview

for a partial comparison.

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Re: [NTG-context] [***SPAM***] Finetuning distances in cells

2013-04-17 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Wed, 17 Apr 2013, H. Özoguz wrote:


In this example

\starttext
\starttable[|l|c|l|]
\HL
\NC \THREE\JustCenter \it Natürliche Methoden \NC \AR
\HL
\stoptable
\stoptext

(which, by the way, gives an syntax-error with \startTABLE)
the entry Natürliche Methoden is not perfectly vertically centered. The 
distance above to the horizontal line is (very) little smaller than the 
distance at the bottom. How to correct that? Perfectly it would be exactly 
reversed, the distance above should be smaller, than at the bottom.


It is much easier to fine-tune details with Natural Tables. Each cell of a 
natural table is a frame, so you can use settings for frames to change the 
style.


\startsetups table:setups
\setupTABLE[align={lohi}, toffset=1pt, bottset=3pt, align=flushleft]
\stopsetups

\bTABLE[setup=table:setups]
\bTR
  \bTD[nc=3, align=middle, style=italic]
   Natürliche Methoden
  \eTD
\eTR
\bTR
  \bTD One\eTD
  \bTD Two\eTD
  \bTD Three  \eTD
\eTR
\eTABLE

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[NTG-context] [***SPAM***] Re: Finetuning distances in cells

2013-04-17 Thread H. Özoguz

It is much easier to fine-tune details with Natural Tables. Each cell of a
natural table is a frame, so you can use settings for frames to change the
style.

\startsetups table:setups
\setupTABLE[align={lohi}, toffset=1pt, bottset=3pt, align=flushleft]
\stopsetups

\bTABLE[setup=table:setups]
\bTR
\bTD[nc=3, align=middle, style=italic]
 Natürliche Methoden
\eTD
\eTR
\bTR
\bTD One\eTD
\bTD Two\eTD
\bTD Three  \eTD
\eTR
\eTABLE

Aditya


If it works, I will try to change my big table to a Natural Table. I do 
not understand what the pt-Values do in your example, if I change them, 
nothing happens.


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Re: [NTG-context] [***SPAM***] Re: Finetuning distances in cells

2013-04-17 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Wed, 17 Apr 2013, H. Özoguz wrote:


It is much easier to fine-tune details with Natural Tables. Each cell of a
natural table is a frame, so you can use settings for frames to change the
style.

\startsetups table:setups
\setupTABLE[align={lohi}, toffset=1pt, bottset=3pt, align=flushleft]
\stopsetups

\bTABLE[setup=table:setups]
\bTR
\bTD[nc=3, align=middle, style=italic]
 Natürliche Methoden
\eTD
\eTR
\bTR
\bTD One\eTD
\bTD Two\eTD
\bTD Three  \eTD
\eTR
\eTABLE

Aditya


If it works, I will try to change my big table to a Natural Table. I do not 
understand what the pt-Values do in your example, if I change them, nothing 
happens.


(Sorry, there were typos in the code).
The offset between the top and bottom rule in each cell. Change them to 
something drastic like 1cm to see the affect.


\startsetups table:setups
\setupTABLE[align={lohi}, loffset=1pt, boffset=3cm, align=flushleft]
\stopsetups

\starttext
\bTABLE[setups=table:setups]
\bTR
  \bTD[nc=3, align=middle, style=italic]
   Natürliche Methoden
  \eTD
\eTR
\bTR
  \bTD One\eTD
  \bTD Two\eTD
  \bTD Three  \eTD
\eTR
\eTABLE
\stoptext


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Re: [NTG-context] Finetuning distances in cells

2013-04-17 Thread H. Özoguz

(Sorry, there were typos in the code).
The offset between the top and bottom rule in each cell. Change them to
something drastic like 1cm to see the affect.

\startsetups table:setups
\setupTABLE[align={lohi}, loffset=1pt, boffset=3cm, align=flushleft]
\stopsetups

\starttext
\bTABLE[setups=table:setups]
\bTR
\bTD[nc=3, align=middle, style=italic]
 Natürliche Methoden
\eTD
\eTR
\bTR
\bTD One\eTD
\bTD Two\eTD
\bTD Three  \eTD
\eTR
\eTABLE
\stoptext


Aditya


Thanks, exactly what I wanted!
Is it possible with this table-environment to create a table, where not 
all four horizontal and vertical lines are set? For example like:


\starttext
\starttable[|l|c|l|]

\NC Blub1 \VL Blub2 \VL Blub3 \AR

\HL

\NC Lalala \VL Brumm \VL Boff \AR

\HL

\stoptable
\stoptext


Huseyin



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[NTG-context] Mismatched font size when switching fonts in the chapter title

2013-04-17 Thread Tim Li
Mismatched font size when switching fonts in the chapter title
   \setupbodyfont[12pt]
   
\definefontsynonym[PalatinoRoman][name:palatinolinotyperoman][features=default]
   \definefont[AnotherFont][PalatinoRoman sa 1]
   \starttext
   \chapter{On \AnotherFont Fonts}
   General readers
   \stoptextIt seems that if switching to another font in the chapter title, 
the size of these two typefaces is mismatched. This will produce the mismatched 
font size(On and Font), how to deal with this problem? Tim Li   
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Re: [NTG-context] Finetuning distances in cells

2013-04-17 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Wed, 17 Apr 2013, H. Özoguz wrote:


(Sorry, there were typos in the code).
The offset between the top and bottom rule in each cell. Change them to
something drastic like 1cm to see the affect.

\startsetups table:setups
\setupTABLE[align={lohi}, loffset=1pt, boffset=3cm, align=flushleft]
\stopsetups

\starttext
\bTABLE[setups=table:setups]
\bTR
\bTD[nc=3, align=middle, style=italic]
 Natürliche Methoden
\eTD
\eTR
\bTR
\bTD One\eTD
\bTD Two\eTD
\bTD Three  \eTD
\eTR
\eTABLE
\stoptext


Aditya


Thanks, exactly what I wanted!
Is it possible with this table-environment to create a table, where not all 
four horizontal and vertical lines are set? For example like:


\starttext
\starttable[|l|c|l|]

\NC Blub1 \VL Blub2 \VL Blub3 \AR

\HL

\NC Lalala \VL Brumm \VL Boff \AR

\HL

\stoptable
\stoptext


\setupTABLE[row][1][frame=off,leftframe=on,rightframe=on]
\setupTABLE[column][first,last][frame=off,topframe=on,bottomframe=on]

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[NTG-context] Non-breaking spaces

2013-04-17 Thread H. Özoguz
For typographical fine-tuning one needs often non-breaking spaces. But 
not only full spaces, but half spaces, or even less. I have this example:


and\hskip1pt/or

But \hskip1pt is not non-breaking, like \, (half space) is. How to 
make it non-breaking? Or are there predfined ones, analog to \, ?


Huseyin


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Re: [NTG-context] Mismatched font size when switching fonts in the chapter title

2013-04-17 Thread Sietse Brouwer
Hi Tim,

[PalatinoRoman sa 1]
This means PalatinoRoman scaled at 1 x bodyfontsize. The document's
body font size is 12 pt, but chapter headers usually are ... like,
about 2.4 * body font size? Hence the size mismatch.

[PalatinoRoman sa *]
This means AnotherFont is PalatinoRoman scaled to 1 x the font size
at time of calling.

Compare these two MWE's (I've changed the font name to
texgyrepagellaregular so that the example will work for any ConTeXt
user.)

\setupbodyfont[12pt]
\definefontsynonym[PalatinoRoman][texgyrepagellaregular][features=default]
\definefont[AnotherFontSaOne][PalatinoRoman sa 1]
\definefont[AnotherFontSaStar][PalatinoRoman sa *]

\starttext
\chapter{Fonts and \AnotherFontSaOne Fonts}
Generalized \AnotherFontSaOne Generals. (Constant size)

\chapter{Fonts and \AnotherFontSaStar Fonts}
Generalized \AnotherFontSaStar Generals. (Adapt to current size)
\stoptext

I got this information from page 5 of the Fonts chapter of the
long-coming manual. (Not the same as the document detailing what you
can do with OTF and Lua, although I think that one, too, is called a
fonts manual.)
http://context.aanhet.net/svn/contextman/context-reference/en/co-fonts.pdf

Cheers,
Sietse
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Re: [NTG-context] [***SPAM***] No line break in figure-captions

2013-04-17 Thread Marco Patzer
On 2013–04–16 H. Özoguz wrote:

 How to prevent line break in figure captions?

  \setupcaption
[figure]
[width=\textwidth,
 align=middle]


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Re: [NTG-context] Mismatched font size when switching fonts in the chapter title

2013-04-17 Thread Tim Li
Sietse,  Thanks for your detailed explanation. With your help, I have known the 
reason. Also, I am reading the new chapter on fonts.
 Best regards,Tim From: sbbrou...@gmail.com
 Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 10:11:19 +0200
 To: ntg-context@ntg.nl
 Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Mismatched font size when switching fonts in the 
 chapter title
 
 Hi Tim,
 
 [PalatinoRoman sa 1]
 This means PalatinoRoman scaled at 1 x bodyfontsize. The document's
 body font size is 12 pt, but chapter headers usually are ... like,
 about 2.4 * body font size? Hence the size mismatch.
 
 [PalatinoRoman sa *]
 This means AnotherFont is PalatinoRoman scaled to 1 x the font size
 at time of calling.
 
 Compare these two MWE's (I've changed the font name to
 texgyrepagellaregular so that the example will work for any ConTeXt
 user.)
 
 \setupbodyfont[12pt]
 \definefontsynonym[PalatinoRoman][texgyrepagellaregular][features=default]
 \definefont[AnotherFontSaOne][PalatinoRoman sa 1]
 \definefont[AnotherFontSaStar][PalatinoRoman sa *]
 
 \starttext
 \chapter{Fonts and \AnotherFontSaOne Fonts}
 Generalized \AnotherFontSaOne Generals. (Constant size)
 
 \chapter{Fonts and \AnotherFontSaStar Fonts}
 Generalized \AnotherFontSaStar Generals. (Adapt to current size)
 \stoptext
 
 I got this information from page 5 of the Fonts chapter of the
 long-coming manual. (Not the same as the document detailing what you
 can do with OTF and Lua, although I think that one, too, is called a
 fonts manual.)
 http://context.aanhet.net/svn/contextman/context-reference/en/co-fonts.pdf
 
 Cheers,
 Sietse
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[NTG-context] [***SPAM***] Updating Context or Never change a running System?

2013-04-17 Thread Jan Heinen

Hello,

I did my last Context-Project 15 months ago - a small book. 
Now I want to write the next book. Do you suggest to update 
my Context-installation?


I have installed ConTeXt Standalone (Minimal?)

My versions are:

Contextversion: 2011.11.04 14:15
Contextversion -Number: 20004 14:15 MKIV
Textengine LuaTeX
Textengine-Number: 0.70.1

Which are the new versions?
Are there important changes in the new versions? Where can I 
find an actual changelog?


Regards
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[NTG-context] Detecting reference-errors

2013-04-17 Thread H. Özoguz
With \at[ref] one can get the pagenumber of a reference. If this 
reference is not there (maybe in another file, not included at that 
moment) there is no error given, but two question marks ??.
That is of course useful, but what if I WANT an error? Because that is 
the only fast way to detect typing errors in references.


Else I will have ?? at the end in the book, not very nice :)

Huseyin
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[NTG-context] Detecting reference-errors

2013-04-17 Thread H. Özoguz
With \at[ref] one can get the pagenumber of a reference. If this 
reference is not there (maybe in another file, not included at that 
moment) there is no error given, but two question marks ??.
That is of course useful, but what if I WANT an error? Because that is 
the only fast way to detect typing errors in references.


Else I will have ?? at the end in the book, not very nice

Huseyin

P.S.: Sorry for the other Mail with the wrong sender-adress.
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Re: [NTG-context] [***SPAM***] Updating Context or Never change a running System?

2013-04-17 Thread luigi scarso
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Jan Heinen jahei...@gmx.de wrote:
 Hello,

 I did my last Context-Project 15 months ago - a small book. Now I want to
 write the next book. Do you suggest to update my Context-installation?
no, just make another standalone into a different folder and then try
to port the project into the new one.


 I have installed ConTeXt Standalone (Minimal?)

 My versions are:

 Contextversion: 2011.11.04 14:15
 Contextversion -Number: 20004 14:15 MKIV
 Textengine LuaTeX
 Textengine-Number: 0.70.1
old


--
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Re: [NTG-context] Detecting reference-errors

2013-04-17 Thread Marco Patzer
On 2013–04–17 H. Özoguz wrote:

 With \at[ref] one can get the pagenumber of a reference. If this
 reference is not there (maybe in another file, not included at that
 moment) there is no error given, but two question marks ??.
 That is of course useful, but what if I WANT an error? Because that
 is the only fast way to detect typing errors in references.

ConTeXt requires multiple passes to get the references right, which
means the first run would always fail if missing references trigger
an error and should be delayed to the second run. Seems possible,
though.

I use the following command to detect wrong references. It's not
pretty, but it does it's job reasonably well.

  pdftotext file.pdf - | grep -E '\?\?|!!'

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[NTG-context] [***SPAM***] Footnotes indented, but with same distance between text and number

2013-04-17 Thread H. Özoguz

I indent footnotes with:

\setupnotation[footnote][
alternative=left,
width=1em,
numbercommand=\high]

But that causes the following ugliness: The distance between the 
footnote-number and the footnote-entry is not always the same, it 
depends now on the length of the footnote-number – see the difference of 
footnotenumber 9 and 10. By default, that is not the case. How to get 
the default results with indentation? It is not only an ugliness, it 
causes problems, when you have really much footnotes, than (with more 
than 99 or even more than 999 footnotes) the footnotenumber, and the 
footnote-entry overlap.)


Testing by:

\setupnotation[footnote][
alternative=left,
width=1em,
numbercommand=\high]

\starttext
\dorecurse{100}{\footnote{Fußnote \recurselevel}}
\stoptext


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Re: [NTG-context] [***SPAM***] Footnotes indented, but with same distance between text and number

2013-04-17 Thread Marco Patzer
On 2013–04–17 H. Özoguz wrote:

 How to get the default results with indentation?

  headalign=left


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[NTG-context] Footnotes indented, but with same distance between text and number

2013-04-17 Thread H. Özoguz

   headalign=left


Marco


Does not work. For two digits, its ok, but beginning with 100 it fails.
Try (see footnote 100):

\setupnotation[footnote][
headalign=left,
width=1em,
numbercommand=\high]

\starttext
\dorecurse{100}{\footnote{Fußnote \recurselevel}}
\stoptext


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Re: [NTG-context] Detecting reference-errors

2013-04-17 Thread Hans Hagen

On 4/17/2013 12:55 PM, Marco Patzer wrote:

On 2013–04–17 H. Özoguz wrote:


With \at[ref] one can get the pagenumber of a reference. If this
reference is not there (maybe in another file, not included at that
moment) there is no error given, but two question marks ??.
That is of course useful, but what if I WANT an error? Because that
is the only fast way to detect typing errors in references.


ConTeXt requires multiple passes to get the references right, which
means the first run would always fail if missing references trigger
an error and should be delayed to the second run. Seems possible,
though.

I use the following command to detect wrong references. It's not
pretty, but it does it's job reasonably well.

   pdftotext file.pdf - | grep -E '\?\?|!!'


If you run

\starttext
test \in{someplace}[somewhere]
\stoptext

there are messages in the log like:

references   unknown reference '[][somewhere]'

as well as a summary:

references   start problematic references

references   unknown 1: [][somewhere]

references   stop problematic references



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[NTG-context] Footnotes indented, but with same distance between text and number

2013-04-17 Thread H. Özoguz

Does not work. For two digits, its ok, but beginning with 100 it fails.
Try (see footnote 100):


Ok, I have seen the problem, I have simply to increase the width. Thank you!
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Re: [NTG-context] Non-breaking spaces

2013-04-17 Thread Hans Hagen

On 4/17/2013 9:08 AM, H. Özoguz wrote:

For typographical fine-tuning one needs often non-breaking spaces. But
not only full spaces, but half spaces, or even less. I have this example:

and\hskip1pt/or

But \hskip1pt is not non-breaking, like \, (half space) is. How to
make it non-breaking? Or are there predfined ones, analog to \, ?


\nobreakspace
\ideographicspace
\ideographichalffillspace
\twoperemspace
\threeperemspace
\fourperemspace
\sixperemspace
\figurespace
\punctuationspace
\breakablethinspace
\hairspace
\zerowidthspace
\zwnj
\zwj
\narrownobreakspace

or just their utf representation


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Re: [NTG-context] [***SPAM***] Updating Context or \Never change a running System\?

2013-04-17 Thread Jan Heinen


 I have installed ConTeXt Standalone (Minimal?)

 My versions are:

 Contextversion: 2011.11.04 14:15
 Contextversion -Number: 20004 14:15 MKIV
 Textengine LuaTeX
 Textengine-Number: 0.70.1
 old

The release notes here seem to be old: 
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Release_Notes


What nice new things can I find in the new version?

Or is anywhere an actual changelog/release_note?

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Re: [NTG-context] How to find the source code/documentation for a specific command

2013-04-17 Thread Hans Hagen

On 4/16/2013 10:34 PM, cont...@thomas-corbiere.name wrote:

Hi Hans,
I searched for the files you reffered to and found them in the path
“context\tex\texmf-context\tex\context”. Can I assume most (all?)
commands are defined here?


indeed, all the core commands are defined in:

  tex/context/base


 From what you said, do you mean that the code for a single command
may be split into multiple files?


normally it's done in one file, unless we're dealing with a combination 
of functionality



I found the test files. What a great collection of examples! This sure
will help.


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Re: [NTG-context] [***SPAM***] Updating Context or Never change a running System?

2013-04-17 Thread Hans Hagen

On 4/17/2013 12:30 PM, Jan Heinen wrote:

Hello,

I did my last Context-Project 15 months ago - a small book. Now I want
to write the next book. Do you suggest to update my Context-installation?

I have installed ConTeXt Standalone (Minimal?)

My versions are:

Contextversion: 2011.11.04 14:15
Contextversion -Number: 20004 14:15 MKIV
Textengine LuaTeX
Textengine-Number: 0.70.1

Which are the new versions?
Are there important changes in the new versions? Where can I find an
actual changelog?


depends on how advanced your docs are ... for a typical 'uses 10 ,ost 
popular commands' document an older version is probably quite ok


but, if you update luatex, you also need to update context (and vise versa)

Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] [***SPAM***] Updating Context or \Never change a running System\?

2013-04-17 Thread Hans Hagen

On 4/17/2013 3:18 PM, Jan Heinen wrote:


  I have installed ConTeXt Standalone (Minimal?)
 
  My versions are:
 
  Contextversion: 2011.11.04 14:15
  Contextversion -Number: 20004 14:15 MKIV
  Textengine LuaTeX
  Textengine-Number: 0.70.1
  old

The release notes here seem to be old:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Release_Notes

What nice new things can I find in the new version?

Or is anywhere an actual changelog/release_note?


Taco normally made those when a new current showed up but it's a tedious 
job and he's quite busy now.


(the current current is a pre-current that will get frozen when tl 2013 
freezes)


Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] Non-breaking spaces

2013-04-17 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد

Hi Hans,

These commands are good to know!

On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 07:16:41 -0600, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:


\narrownobreakspace


If a font does not have U+202F defined, what's the best way to redefine  
this to, say, one half of the current font's regular space U+0020 (with no  
shrinking or stretching of course).


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[NTG-context] LuaTeX error in \showboxes

2013-04-17 Thread Marco Patzer
Hi,

the following example results in a LuaTeX error:

\showboxes
\starttext
  \dorecurse{30}{\footnote{foo}}
\stoptext

! LuaTeX error ...ext-beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/trac-vis.lua:524: 
You can't assign a glue_spec node to a prev field

stack traceback:
[C]: in function '__newindex'
...ext-beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/trac-vis.lua:524: in 
function 'ruledbox'
...ext-beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/trac-vis.lua:810: in 
function 'visualize'


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Re: [NTG-context] Non-breaking spaces

2013-04-17 Thread Hans Hagen

On 4/17/2013 3:30 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس   سماوي حامد wrote:

Hi Hans,

These commands are good to know!

On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 07:16:41 -0600, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:


\narrownobreakspace


If a font does not have U+202F defined, what's the best way to redefine
this to, say, one half of the current font's regular space U+0020 (with
no shrinking or stretching of course).


it has nothing to do with fonts ... they are not characters bound to 
glyphs .. independent so to say ... dealt with at another level


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Re: [NTG-context] Non-breaking spaces

2013-04-17 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد

On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 07:56:41 -0600, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:



On 4/17/2013 3:30 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس   سماوي حامد wrote:

Hi Hans,

These commands are good to know!

On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 07:16:41 -0600, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:


\narrownobreakspace


If a font does not have U+202F defined, what's the best way to redefine
this to, say, one half of the current font's regular space U+0020 (with
no shrinking or stretching of course).


it has nothing to do with fonts ... they are not characters bound to  
glyphs .. independent so to say ... dealt with at another level


In spac-chr.mkiv there is

Line 73: \edef\narrownobreakspace  {\normalUchar202F}

So in the preamble we have to do something like (spac-hor.mkiv, line 905)

\edef\narrownobreakspace{\penalty\plustenthousand\kern .7ex}

Then I can say, e.g.

\defineactivecharater + {\narrownobreakspace}

و+الباب

(untested, but on my list)

But per the current definition I should be able to define U+202F as,  
e.g., .7ex in the font and get the same effect, right?


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Re: [NTG-context] Non-breaking spaces

2013-04-17 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد

Hi,

On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 01:08:30 -0600, H. Özoguz h.oezo...@mmnetz.de wrote:


How to make it non-breaking?


See also my reply to Hans, basically you need a

\penalty1

(See TeXBook, page 353, 110)

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Re: [NTG-context] LuaTeX error in \showboxes

2013-04-17 Thread Hans Hagen

On 4/17/2013 3:39 PM, Marco Patzer wrote:

Hi,

the following example results in a LuaTeX error:

\showboxes
\starttext
   \dorecurse{30}{\footnote{foo}}
\stoptext

! LuaTeX error ...ext-beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/trac-vis.lua:524: 
You can't assign a glue_spec node to a prev field


weird error ... a gluespec in a running list (i can intercept it but still)

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Re: [NTG-context] Non-breaking spaces

2013-04-17 Thread Hans Hagen

On 4/17/2013 4:30 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس   سماوي حامد wrote:

On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 07:56:41 -0600, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:



On 4/17/2013 3:30 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس   سماوي حامد wrote:

Hi Hans,

These commands are good to know!

On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 07:16:41 -0600, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:


\narrownobreakspace


If a font does not have U+202F defined, what's the best way to redefine
this to, say, one half of the current font's regular space U+0020 (with
no shrinking or stretching of course).


it has nothing to do with fonts ... they are not characters bound to
glyphs .. independent so to say ... dealt with at another level


In spac-chr.mkiv there is

Line 73: \edef\narrownobreakspace  {\normalUchar202F}

So in the preamble we have to do something like (spac-hor.mkiv, line 905)

\edef\narrownobreakspace{\penalty\plustenthousand\kern .7ex}


why redefine it? just keep it as is ... such an utf char automagically 
in mkiv becomes a combination of kern / skip / penalty ... if you start 
redefining yourself it also gets out of control when it's passed around


don't worry about how that happens (just assume the abstraction is taken 
care of)



Then I can say, e.g.

\defineactivecharater + {\narrownobreakspace}

و+الباب

(untested, but on my list)



But per the current definition I should be able to define U+202F as,
e.g., .7ex in the font and get the same effect, right?


why make a character active and let it expand to itself as letter?

normally the font handler never sees that character as there is no 
character - glyph issue involved


just insert the utf character as-is

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Re: [NTG-context] [***SPAM***] Updating Context or \Never change a running System\?

2013-04-17 Thread Sietse Brouwer
Hello Janis,

The closest you will get to a changelog, at the moment, is the git
mirror of the source:
http://repo.or.cz/w/context.git

That is not so useful if you want to know what new features have
arrived in the past year, but I thought I should mention it anyway.

I think one could also find a reasonable subset of feature
announcements by looking at e-mails to this list with the following
properties
* from:pra...@wxs.nl (that's Hans)
* new in OR next beta OR new beta
* after:2011-11-04
* (possibly: first in thread)

Unluckily, I can't convince my Gmail to search for that --- it ignores
the quotation marks, so I get buried in false positives.

Cheers,
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Re: [NTG-context] Non-breaking spaces

2013-04-17 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد

On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 08:51:37 -0600, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:

\defineactivecharater + {\narrownobreakspace}

و+الباب

(untested, but on my list)



But per the current definition I should be able to define U+202F as,
e.g., .7ex in the font and get the same effect, right?


why make a character active and let it expand to itself as letter?

normally the font handler never sees that character as there is no  
character - glyph issue involved


just insert the utf character as-is


Sure, but two motivations:

1) In fine Arabic typesetting this can occur literally dozens of times a  
page, so I need something visible/convenient analogous to tilda/~ (which  
-- I am ashamed to say -- I still use in mkiv)


2) I can't currently see 202F in my editor (notepad++) and the current  
syntax-highlighting features don't display it automatically.


(Eventually I have to port the ConTeXt support package for Npp to a  
lexer/plugin where I can define these things explicitly, but first I need  
someone who knows that lexer stuff to help...)


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Re: [NTG-context] Non-breaking spaces

2013-04-17 Thread Hans Hagen

On 4/17/2013 5:28 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس   سماوي حامد wrote:


(Eventually I have to port the ConTeXt support package for Npp to a
lexer/plugin where I can define these things explicitly, but first I
need someone who knows that lexer stuff to help...)


it would be nice if there was a (say special dejavu mono) that has 
visual appearances for such characters


anyway .. my scite lexer visualizes the spacers

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Re: [NTG-context] LuaTeX error in \showboxes

2013-04-17 Thread Marco Patzer
On 2013–04–17 Hans Hagen wrote:

 ! LuaTeX error 
 ...ext-beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/trac-vis.lua:524: You can't 
 assign a glue_spec node to a prev field
 
 weird error ... a gluespec in a running list (i can intercept it but still)

You broke LuajitTeX:

context --jit b7r.tex

mtx-context | redirect texlua - luajittex: luajittex --luaonly 
/home/marco/usr/local/share/context-beta/tex/texmf-linux-64/bin/mtxrun 
--script context --jit b7r.tex 
--redirected...r/local/share/context-beta/tex/texmf-linux-64/bin/mtxrun:177: 
attempt to index field 'searchers' (a nil value)

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[NTG-context] Vanishing chapter title from Contents

2013-04-17 Thread Tim Li
Hi, maybe, codes is our language :-) % define a new 
head\definehead[backmatterchapter][chapter]
\starttext
\startfrontmatter
\title{Preface}
\completecontent
\stopfrontmatter
\startbodymatter
\chapter{First Chapter}
\stopbodymatter
\startbackmatter
\backmatterchapter{Backmatter}
\stopbackmatter
\stoptext The chapter title Backmatter in the backmatter won't appear in the 
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Re: [NTG-context] Vanishing chapter title from Contents

2013-04-17 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 17.04.2013 um 17:59 schrieb Tim Li timli2...@outlook.com:

 Hi,
  
 maybe, codes is our language :-)
  
 % define a new head
 \definehead[backmatterchapter][chapter]
 
 […]
  
 The chapter title Backmatter in the backmatter won't appear in the 
 Contents. Why? How can I make it appear in the Contents? 

You have to redefine the \completecontent command to include 
“backmatterchapter” in the list of headings.

\definecombinedlist[content][part,chapter,backmatterchapter,section,subsection,subsubsection,subsubsubsection]

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Re: [NTG-context] LuaTeX error in \showboxes

2013-04-17 Thread Hans Hagen

On 4/17/2013 5:54 PM, Marco Patzer wrote:

On 2013–04–17 Hans Hagen wrote:


! LuaTeX error ...ext-beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/trac-vis.lua:524: 
You can't assign a glue_spec node to a prev field


weird error ... a gluespec in a running list (i can intercept it but still)


You broke LuajitTeX:

context --jit b7r.tex

mtx-context | redirect texlua - luajittex: luajittex --luaonly 
/home/marco/usr/local/share/context-beta/tex/texmf-linux-64/bin/mtxrun --script 
context --jit b7r.tex 
--redirected...r/local/share/context-beta/tex/texmf-linux-64/bin/mtxrun:177: attempt to 
index field 'searchers' (a nil value)


hm, side effect of separating some code (and adding a bit more tracing 
to lib loading) ... new upload


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[NTG-context] bodyfont size in margin?

2013-04-17 Thread Meer, H. van der
I would like to have the same font and especially the same size for inmargin 
texts. Why is the following program not honouring the size setting?

% Font in margin text
\def\MarkMaster{\inmargin[location=left]{{\switchtobodyfont[sans,8pt]\red 
MASTER SECTION}}}
\starttext
\startchapter[title=\MarkMaster test title]
\input tufte
\MarkMaster
\input tufte
\blank
contextversion=\contextversion
\stopchapter
\stoptext

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marginfont.pdf
Description: marginfont.pdf
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[NTG-context] footnoterule

2013-04-17 Thread Meer, H. van der
Is there a reason why the first does switches off the rule above the footnote
  \setupfootnotes[rule=off]
but this doesn't?
  \setupnotation[footnote][rule=off]]

Just try with

\setupnotation[footnote][rule=off] % either this or the next one
%\setupfootnotes[rule=off]
\starttext
Some footnote\footnote{The foonote}.\crlf
\stoptext

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[NTG-context] endnotemarkers

2013-04-17 Thread Meer, H. van der
With the following setup my endnotes show up in the list with [number], as I 
would like to have it. But in the text they do not appear as [number] but just 
as plain numbers. 
Why does textcommand has not this effect, whereas numbercommand does? The 
manual strongly suggest this to me.

\def\fnmarker#1{[#1]}
\setupnotation[endnote][numbercommand=\fnmarker,textcommand=\fnmarker]

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Re: [NTG-context] endnotemarkers

2013-04-17 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 17.04.2013 um 20:23 schrieb Meer, H. van der h.vanderm...@uva.nl:

 With the following setup my endnotes show up in the list with [number], as I 
 would like to have it. But in the text they do not appear as [number] but 
 just as plain numbers. 
 Why does textcommand has not this effect, whereas numbercommand does? The 
 manual strongly suggest this to me.
 
 \def\fnmarker#1{[#1]}
 \setupnotation[endnote][numbercommand=\fnmarker,textcommand=\fnmarker]

\setupnote[endnote][textcommand=\groupedcommand{[}{]}]
\setupnotation[endnote][numbercommand=\groupedcommand{[}{]}]

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Re: [NTG-context] footnoterule

2013-04-17 Thread Meer, H. van der
I find this setup stuff bewildering. My last posting is concerning the 
typesetting of the endnote numbering in both the text and the list at the en 
dof the chapter. In the Reference Manual both textcommand and numbercommand are 
treated in the same setup macro: \setupfootnotes on page 94. But (with the help 
of your reply) I find now there are different macros needed to set them up:

Needed for the text = \setupnotes[endnote][textcommand=\hifnmarker]
Needed for the list = \setupnotation[endnote][numbercommand=\fnmarker]
\def\fnmarker#1{[#1]}\def\hifnmarker#1{\high{[#1]}}

Wolfgang Schuster just comes up with a similar solution:
\setupnote[endnote][textcommand=\groupedcommand{[}{]}]
\setupnotation[endnote][numbercommand=\groupedcommand{[}{]}]
Allthough the difference between \setupnote and \setupnotes alludes me.

The \setupnotes does not handle the numbercommand, the \setupnotation does not 
handle the textcommand. I find this split in behaviour difficult to understand. 
May I plead for a unification here?

Hans van der Meer



On 17 Apr 2013, at 8:14 PM, Marco Patzer 
home...@lavabit.commailto:home...@lavabit.com
 wrote:

On 2013–04–17 Meer, H. van der wrote:

Is there a reason why the first does switches off the rule above the footnote
 \setupfootnotes[rule=off]
but this doesn't?
 \setupnotation[footnote][rule=off]]

It's \setupnotes, not \setupnotation that controls the rule.

\setupnotes
 [footnote]
 [rule=off]

\starttext
Some footnote\footnote{The foonote}.\crlf
\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] typesetting TOC

2013-04-17 Thread Meer, H. van der
It took me quite a while to find the solution for this problem. By posting it 
here, I hope this will be useful to others.

\completecontent set the list composed of the chapters with a previous call to:
  \setupcombinedlist[content][list=chapter]
and the list of chapters and included sections with:
   \setupcombinedlist[list={chapter,section}]
etcetera.

Hans van der Meer



On 16 Apr 2013, at 10:17 PM, Meer, H. van der 
h.vanderm...@uva.nlmailto:h.vanderm...@uva.nl wrote:

I am very sorry, but I still cannot understand how to get the TOC as I would 
like it.
The following does typeset the Content header but is empty otherwise.

\startfrontmatter
\completelist[content][criterium=chapter]
\stopfrontmatter

I tried various possibilities from the reference manual, like 
\placelist[section][criterium=chapter]. But either this doesn't work (anymore?) 
or I am doing something very stupid. But these call do nothing.

It seems so simple: use the \complete.. mechanism (because this wraps the TOC 
nicely) to typeset a selection from the TOC using the criterium-mechanism. 
Which seems to me just made for this sort of action. But nothing comes out of 
it.

Hans van der Meer


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Re: [NTG-context] footnoterule

2013-04-17 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 17.04.2013 um 20:46 schrieb Meer, H. van der h.vanderm...@uva.nl:

 I find this setup stuff bewildering. My last posting is concerning the 
 typesetting of the endnote numbering in both the text and the list at the en 
 dof the chapter. In the Reference Manual both textcommand and numbercommand 
 are treated in the same setup macro: \setupfootnotes on page 94. But (with 
 the help of your reply) I find now there are different macros needed to set 
 them up:
 
 Needed for the text = \setupnotes[endnote][textcommand=\hifnmarker]
 Needed for the list = \setupnotation[endnote][numbercommand=\fnmarker]
 \def\fnmarker#1{[#1]}\def\hifnmarker#1{\high{[#1]}}
 
 Wolfgang Schuster just comes up with a similar solution:
 \setupnote[endnote][textcommand=\groupedcommand{[}{]}]
 \setupnotation[endnote][numbercommand=\groupedcommand{[}{]}]
 Allthough the difference between \setupnote and \setupnotes alludes me.
 
 The \setupnotes does not handle the numbercommand, the \setupnotation does 
 not handle the textcommand. I find this split in behaviour difficult to 
 understand. May I plead for a unification here?

Footnotes, endnotes etc. are processed in a two step mechanism. When context 
reaches \footnote{…} in the document it stores the content and puts a number in 
the text, the style etc. of this number can be changed with the \setupnote 
command.

After the page is finished the collected notes for the current page are 
inserted at the bottom of the page, at first this is only one big block which 
contains all notes. The rule, font size etc, for this block can be also changed 
with the \setupnote command.

In this block the individual note texts are placed, the style etc. of each note 
text can be changed with the \setupnotation command.

Another point of notes are the counter and it’s format which is also changed 
with the \setupnotation command.

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] endnotemarkers

2013-04-17 Thread Hans Hagen

On 4/17/2013 8:27 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:


Am 17.04.2013 um 20:23 schrieb Meer, H. van der h.vanderm...@uva.nl:


With the following setup my endnotes show up in the list with [number], as I 
would like to have it. But in the text they do not appear as [number] but just 
as plain numbers.
Why does textcommand has not this effect, whereas numbercommand does? The 
manual strongly suggest this to me.

\def\fnmarker#1{[#1]}
\setupnotation[endnote][numbercommand=\fnmarker,textcommand=\fnmarker]


\setupnote[endnote][textcommand=\groupedcommand{[}{]}]
\setupnotation[endnote][numbercommand=\groupedcommand{[}{]}]


neat

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Re: [NTG-context] endnotemarkers

2013-04-17 Thread Meer, H. van der
A minor point perhaps on this textcommand= \groupedcommand for the marking of 
the notes in the text. I tried this but now the marking is not typeset as a 
superscript.
 
Hans van der Meer



On 17 Apr 2013, at 9:28 PM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl
 wrote:

 On 4/17/2013 8:27 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
 
 Am 17.04.2013 um 20:23 schrieb Meer, H. van der h.vanderm...@uva.nl:
 
 With the following setup my endnotes show up in the list with [number], as 
 I would like to have it. But in the text they do not appear as [number] but 
 just as plain numbers.
 Why does textcommand has not this effect, whereas numbercommand does? The 
 manual strongly suggest this to me.
 
 \def\fnmarker#1{[#1]}
 \setupnotation[endnote][numbercommand=\fnmarker,textcommand=\fnmarker]
 
 \setupnote[endnote][textcommand=\groupedcommand{[}{]}]
 \setupnotation[endnote][numbercommand=\groupedcommand{[}{]}]
 
 neat
 
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Re: [NTG-context] Non-breaking spaces

2013-04-17 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد

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On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 09:35:43 -0600, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:


On 4/17/2013 5:28 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس   سماوي حامد wrote:


(Eventually I have to port the ConTeXt support package for Npp to a
lexer/plugin where I can define these things explicitly, but first I
need someone who knows that lexer stuff to help...)


it would be nice if there was a (say special dejavu mono) that has  
visual appearances for such characters


anyway .. my scite lexer visualizes the spacers


My Npp is from a year ago. I just checked and

http://www.notepad-plus-plus.org/news/notepad-6.2-release-udl2.html

http://udl20.weebly.com/operators.html

So I'll update after the work week is over and see if this new framework  
can accommodate the spacers etc. Then I'll prepare a new ConTeXt support  
package for npp.


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[NTG-context] mptopdf in minimals

2013-04-17 Thread John Kitzmiller
Is there something extra needed to use mptopdf with only context minimal?

Experimenting with having just context standalone on mac osx:





















 Compiling with just mpost 
or using a context \startMPcode wrapper works, e.g.:

beginfig(1);
draw origin--(100,100);
endfig;
end

works with command line mpost % 

This is MetaPost, version 1.801 (kpathsea version 6.1.1dev)
(mpost.mp (/users/johnkitzmiller/context/tex/texmf/metapost/base/plain.mp
Preloading the plain mem file, version 1.004) ) (./mwe.mp [1] )
1 output file written: mwe.1
Transcript written on mwe.log.

and...

\starttext
\startMPcode
draw origin--(100,100);
\stopMPcode
\stoptext

works with command context %

But using mptopdf on the first snippet complains:

MPtoPDF 1.4.1 : running 'mpost --mem=mpost  mwe.mp'
This is MetaPost, version 1.801 (kpathsea version 6.1.1dev)
(mpost.mp (/users/johnkitzmiller/context/tex/texmf/metapost/base/plain.mp
Preloading the plain mem file, version 1.004) ) (./mwe.mp [1] )
1 output file written: mwe.1
Transcript written on mwe.log.
This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.5-1.40.14 (TeX Live 2013)
 \write18 enabled.

kpathsea: Running mktexfmt mptopdf.fmt
/usr/texbin/mktexfmt: line 395: 
/users/johnkitzmiller/context/tex/texmf/texconfig/tcfmgr: is a directory
fmtutil: config file `fmtutil.cnf' not found.
I can't find the format file `mptopdf.fmt'!

MPtoPDF 1.4.1 : error while processing tex file


(Note: I do not have TeX Live 2013 installed. The message from line 7 gave me 
some hints and I created the directory and put mptopdf.fmt from a pdftex --ini 
mptopdf command … no luck)

Turning $PATH off from ~/context/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin mptopdf % gives:

MPtoPDF 1.4.1 : running 'mpost --mem=mpost  mwe.mp'
This is MetaPost, version 1.504 (kpathsea version 6.1.0)
(mpost.mp (/usr/local/texlive/2012/texmf-dist/metapost/base/plain.mp
Preloading the plain mem file, version 1.004)) (./mwe.mp [1] )
1 output file written: mwe.1
Transcript written on mwe.log.
This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.4-1.40.13 (TeX Live 2012)
 restricted \write18 enabled.
[MP to PDF] (./mwe.1) [1]
Output written on mwe.pdf (1 page, 1305 bytes).
Transcript written on mwe.log.

MPtoPDF 1.4.1 : mwe is converted to mwe-1.pdf

as I have been using. How to get mptopdf working from command line with just 
minimals?








 
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Re: [NTG-context] mptopdf in minimals

2013-04-17 Thread Hans Hagen

On 4/17/2013 10:51 PM, John Kitzmiller wrote:

Is there something extra needed to use mptopdf with only context minimal?

Experimenting with having just context standalone on mac osx:












   !

  Compiling with just mpost or using a context \startMPcode wrapper works, e.g.:


beginfig(1);
draw origin--(100,100);
endfig;
end


if you have context installed you can try

mtxrun --script metapost 

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Re: [NTG-context] mptopdf in minimals

2013-04-17 Thread John Kitzmiller

On Apr 17, 2013, at 5:00 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:

 On 4/17/2013 10:51 PM, John Kitzmiller wrote:
 Is there something extra needed to use mptopdf with only context minimal?
 
 Experimenting with having just context standalone on mac osx:
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
Compiling with just mpost or using a 
 context \startMPcode wrapper works, e.g.:
 
 beginfig(1);
 draw origin--(100,100);
 endfig;
 end
 
 if you have context installed you can try
 
 mtxrun --script metapost ….


Thank you Hans. It works (no surprise) but now I will have to script it to save 
typing!

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Re: [NTG-context] Vanishing chapter title from Contents

2013-04-17 Thread Tim Li

Thanks Wolfgang, it works well.  TimFrom: schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 18:15:13 +0200
To: ntg-context@ntg.nl
Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Vanishing chapter title from Contents


Am 17.04.2013 um 17:59 schrieb Tim Li timli2...@outlook.com:Hi,
 
maybe, codes is our language :-)
 
% define a new head
\definehead[backmatterchapter][chapter]

[…]
 
The chapter title Backmatter in the backmatter won't appear in the Contents. 
Why? How can I make it appear in the Contents? 
You have to redefine the \completecontent command to include 
“backmatterchapter” in the list of headings.
\definecombinedlist[content][part,chapter,backmatterchapter,section,subsection,subsubsection,subsubsubsection]
Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] endnotemarkers

2013-04-17 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 17.04.2013 um 21:35 schrieb Meer, H. van der h.vanderm...@uva.nl:

 A minor point perhaps on this textcommand= \groupedcommand for the marking of 
 the notes in the text. I tried this but now the marking is not typeset as a 
 superscript.

\defineprocessor[footnote][left={[},right={]}]
\defineconversionset[footnote][][footnote-n]

\setupnotation[footnote][numberconversionset=footnote]

\starttext
Text\footnote{Footnote}
\stoptext

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[NTG-context] ConTeXt mkiv with SciTE on MacOSX

2013-04-17 Thread Pierre Bovet
Hi all, 
I recently purchased Scite-Mac OSX to use with ConTeXt, but I don't find an 
issue for the integration of the *.properties and lexers files which are 
located in the ConTeXt minimal distribution.
Did anyone encounter the same problem and who could help me?

Thank you for your kind attention!

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