Re: [NTG-context] Latin setupmathematics

> On 15 May 2016, at 23:18, Hans Hagen wrote: > >>> but eventually typesetting will become a niche and end up in the arts but i >>> will probably not live long enough to see that happen >> >> From the point of computer language design, TeX is not very good. One of the >>

Re: [NTG-context] Help with configuring Textadept to work with ConTeXt

Well I deleted MiKTeX from my system path completely and now when I try to compile a *.tex file that is clearly a ConTeXt document I only get another error message: > pdflatex -file-line-error -halt-on-error "untitled-3.tex" Der Befehl "pdflatex" ist entweder falsch geschrieben oder konnte

Re: [NTG-context] Latin setupmathematics

On 5/15/2016 10:06 PM, Hans Åberg wrote: On 15 May 2016, at 20:42, Hans Hagen wrote: On 5/15/2016 8:31 PM, Hans Åberg wrote: there will always be some kind of escape Hopefully from TeX as well. :-) you can use ms word (which has tex like math but with a gui) That falls

Re: [NTG-context] Latin setupmathematics

> On 15 May 2016, at 20:42, Hans Hagen wrote: > > On 5/15/2016 8:31 PM, Hans Åberg wrote: > >>> there will always be some kind of escape >> >> Hopefully from TeX as well. :-) > > you can use ms word (which has tex like math but with a gui) That falls far short, though there

Re: [NTG-context] what does rscale=auto achieve?

Pablo Rodriguez 15. Mai 2016 um 20:41 As far as I concerned, please consider that this would break backwards compatibility. I’m aware of this but I try to stay as close a possible to the \definetypeface command which uses rscale as key. I planned this also a while ago and

Re: [NTG-context] Setting up TeXworks

Now I uninstalled the texlive version of ConTeXt and did a total new install of the standalone version. That did not help at all. There's something wrong happening within the mtxrun. I added a new "compiler" to TeXworks that only executes the command printenv and it lists the following

Re: [NTG-context] LaTeX reledmac: what about ConTeXt ?

On 05/15/2016 08:44 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 5/15/2016 8:36 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: > >> I know Hans will hate me ;-), but the fun comes when the recursion >> exceeds the first page. > > don't worry, as i don't follow this thread too closely > > in fact, pages-001 is a test for parallel

Re: [NTG-context] Help with configuring Textadept to work with ConTeXt

On 15 May 2016 at 12:22, Jean-Pierre Delange wrote: > Hi ! > > I don't know Textadept (I'm using TeXWorks). And it is not a good idea to > have ConTeXt working in parallel with MikTeX (see here : > http://wiki.contextgarden.net/MikTeX). This should work fine as long as PATH is different when

Re: [NTG-context] LaTeX reledmac: what about ConTeXt ?

On 5/15/2016 8:36 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: I know Hans will hate me ;-), but the fun comes when the recursion exceeds the first page. don't worry, as i don't follow this thread too closely in fact, pages-001 is a test for parallel texts (but there is a one line offset that i need to fix)

Re: [NTG-context] Latin setupmathematics

On 5/15/2016 8:31 PM, Hans Åberg wrote: there will always be some kind of escape Hopefully from TeX as well. :-) you can use ms word (which has tex like math but with a gui) but eventually typesetting will become a niche and end up in the arts but i will probably not live long enough to

Re: [NTG-context] what does rscale=auto achieve?

On 05/15/2016 08:05 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: >> Pablo Rodriguez >> 15. Mai 2016 um 20:03 >> >> Many thanks for your reply, Wolfgang. >> >> I’m not sure whether I get your second point: will you implement >> rscale=auto for \definefontfamily and \definefallbackfamily or

Re: [NTG-context] LaTeX reledmac: what about ConTeXt ?

On 05/15/2016 06:46 PM, Jean-Pierre Delange wrote: > Hi Pablo and other ConTeXt wizards ! > > I've tried to find a solution to my previous question. Thanks to > Pablo Rodriguez, the script is working very well. But when I try to > take his solution with a 2 columns scheme (a Greek tex on left and

Re: [NTG-context] Latin setupmathematics

> On 15 May 2016, at 20:06, Hans Hagen wrote: > > On 5/15/2016 7:28 PM, Hans Åberg wrote: >>> What do you mean with change by hand ... isn't that what context can do for >>> you? Operate on all those axes ... (\tf is the upright one). There are >>> extensive mapping mechanisms

Re: [NTG-context] Latin setupmathematics

> On 15 May 2016, at 19:59, Hans Hagen wrote: > > On 5/15/2016 7:42 PM, Hans Åberg wrote: > >>> (where of course we default to default=italic) >> >> Yes, but perhaps another name than “default”. > > well, it is \mathdefault that is used and then gets set ... so default suits

Re: [NTG-context] Latin setupmathematics

On 5/15/2016 7:28 PM, Hans Åberg wrote: On 15 May 2016, at 19:12, Hans Hagen wrote: On 5/15/2016 6:36 PM, Hans Åberg wrote: On 15 May 2016, at 16:44, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: \appendtoks \rm \to \everymathematics Here is another variation:

Re: [NTG-context] what does rscale=auto achieve?

Pablo Rodriguez 15. Mai 2016 um 20:03 Many thanks for your reply, Wolfgang. I’m not sure whether I get your second point: will you implement rscale=auto for \definefontfamily and \definefallbackfamily or will you disable scale in those two commands? I’m changing the name

Re: [NTG-context] What are your ten (10) favorite typography books of the last 50 years? (*not* OT)

For those who want to play with the bibliography/publications module... see attached. Warning: there were many errors in the references, and I corrected the most obvious but otherwise did not check any of the data. Note also that some information (such as publishers or addresses) are missing.

Re: [NTG-context] what does rscale=auto achieve?

On 05/15/2016 07:39 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: >> Pablo Rodriguez 15. Mai 2016 um 16:58 >> [...] >> I thought that "rscale=auto" would scale the typeface so that its >> x-height would match the x-height from the main typeface. >> >> Since I don’t see any scaling, could anyone explain me what I’m

Re: [NTG-context] Nolimits not working with Unicode characters

On 5/15/2016 7:44 PM, Hans Åberg wrote: On 15 May 2016, at 19:35, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Hans Åberg 15. Mai 2016 um 19:32 What is \zwnj? zero width non-joiner OK. Invisibles of different semantic meaning are pretty tricky to use in the input, because it

Re: [NTG-context] Latin setupmathematics

On 5/15/2016 7:42 PM, Hans Åberg wrote: (where of course we default to default=italic) Yes, but perhaps another name than “default”. well, it is \mathdefault that is used and then gets set ... so default suits well (something latin in the name just sounds weird) i have no problem adding

Re: [NTG-context] Nolimits not working with Unicode characters

> On 15 May 2016, at 19:14, Hans Hagen wrote: > > On 5/15/2016 2:33 PM, Hans Åberg wrote: >> >>> On 14 May 2016, at 23:26, Aditya Mahajan wrote: >> >>> Be careful with empty group in math mode: >>> >>> \startformula{} -a \stopformula >>>

Re: [NTG-context] Latin setupmathematics

> On 15 May 2016, at 15:37, Hans Hagen wrote: > > On 5/14/2016 7:11 PM, Hans Åberg wrote: >> In order to align with Unicode, \setupmathematics might have Latin shape >> options, as the Greek ‘lcgreek’ and ‘ucgreek', say ‘lclatin' and ‘uclatin', >> both defaulting to ’italic’.

Re: [NTG-context] Nolimits not working with Unicode characters

> On 15 May 2016, at 19:35, Wolfgang Schuster > wrote: > >> Hans Åberg 15. Mai 2016 um 19:32 >> >> What is \zwnj? > zero width non-joiner OK. Invisibles of different semantic meaning are pretty tricky to use in the input, because it is hard to detect errors.

Re: [NTG-context] Latin setupmathematics

> On 15 May 2016, at 19:08, Hans Hagen wrote: > > On 5/15/2016 4:28 PM, Hans Åberg wrote: >> >>> On 15 May 2016, at 15:37, Hans Hagen wrote: >>> >>> On 5/14/2016 7:11 PM, Hans Åberg wrote: In order to align with Unicode, \setupmathematics might have Latin

Re: [NTG-context] what does rscale=auto achieve?

Pablo Rodriguez 15. Mai 2016 um 16:58 Dear list, I have the following sample: \definefallbackfamily [mainface] [rm] [DejaVu Serif] [preset=range:cyrillic, rscale=auto] \definefallbackfamily [mainface] [rm] [GFS Didot] [preset=range:greek, rscale=auto] \definefontfamily

Re: [NTG-context] Nolimits not working with Unicode characters

Hans Åberg 15. Mai 2016 um 19:32 What is \zwnj? zero width non-joiner Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist :

Re: [NTG-context] Nolimits not working with Unicode characters

> On 15 May 2016, at 19:14, Hans Hagen wrote: > > On 5/15/2016 2:33 PM, Hans Åberg wrote: >> >>> On 14 May 2016, at 23:26, Aditya Mahajan wrote: >> >>> Be careful with empty group in math mode: >>> >>> \startformula{} -a \stopformula >>>

Re: [NTG-context] Latin setupmathematics

> On 15 May 2016, at 19:12, Hans Hagen wrote: > > On 5/15/2016 6:36 PM, Hans Åberg wrote: >> >>> On 15 May 2016, at 16:44, Wolfgang Schuster >>> wrote: >>> >>> \appendtoks \rm \to \everymathematics >> >> Here is another variation: using the

Re: [NTG-context] Problem with urls

On 5/14/2016 7:35 PM, Peter Münster wrote: On Sat, May 14 2016, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: the coma is the problematic character in url: \setupinteraction[state=start] \starttext \goto{http://a,b.c}[url(http://a,b.c)] \stoptext I’m afraid this might be a bug. Workaround:

Re: [NTG-context] Nolimits not working with Unicode characters

On 5/15/2016 2:33 PM, Hans Åberg wrote: On 14 May 2016, at 23:26, Aditya Mahajan wrote: Be careful with empty group in math mode: \startformula{} -a \stopformula \startformula\relax -a \stopformula Maybe a way to distinguish between unary prefix operator “-“, and

Re: [NTG-context] Latin setupmathematics

On 5/15/2016 6:36 PM, Hans Åberg wrote: On 15 May 2016, at 16:44, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: \appendtoks \rm \to \everymathematics Here is another variation: using the sans-serif math styles, combining with the suggestion in the “Nolimits” thread. It would save

Re: [NTG-context] Latin setupmathematics

On 5/15/2016 4:28 PM, Hans Åberg wrote: On 15 May 2016, at 15:37, Hans Hagen wrote: On 5/14/2016 7:11 PM, Hans Åberg wrote: In order to align with Unicode, \setupmathematics might have Latin shape options, as the Greek ‘lcgreek’ and ‘ucgreek', say ‘lclatin' and ‘uclatin',

Re: [NTG-context] LaTeX reledmac: what about ConTeXt ?

Hi Pablo and other ConTeXt wizards ! I've tried to find a solution to my previous question. Thanks to Pablo Rodriguez, the script is working very well. But when I try to take his solution with a 2 columns scheme (a Greek tex on left and a latin one on right), the footnotes are not printed. I

Re: [NTG-context] Latin setupmathematics

> On 15 May 2016, at 16:44, Wolfgang Schuster > wrote: > > \appendtoks \rm \to \everymathematics Here is another variation: using the sans-serif math styles, combining with the suggestion in the “Nolimits” thread. It would save the effort having to change all

Re: [NTG-context] Latin setupmathematics

> On 15 May 2016, at 16:44, Wolfgang Schuster > wrote: > > \appendtoks \rm \to \everymathematics This does the trick. Here more carefully composed example, showing how tricky it is to use currently: \setupbodyfont[xits,10pt] \startformula \startalign I &=

Re: [NTG-context] LaTeX reledmac: what about ConTeXt ?

On 05/15/2016 04:35 PM, Jean-Pierre Delange wrote: > Hi Pablo ! > > Now, with the same scheme you generously gave us, I try to print (as > a sample) some Ancient Greek text on a column located at left, with > its Latin translation located on the right of the page and 'criticus > apparatus' in

[NTG-context] what does rscale=auto achieve?

Dear list, I have the following sample: \definefallbackfamily [mainface] [rm] [DejaVu Serif] [preset=range:cyrillic, rscale=auto] \definefallbackfamily [mainface] [rm] [GFS Didot] [preset=range:greek, rscale=auto]

Re: [NTG-context] Latin setupmathematics

Hans Åberg 15. Mai 2016 um 16:28 Traditionally constants are set in upright and variables in italic. So constants like “log” etc., are set in upright. It is not used rigorously because of past typographical limitations, but one might in principle do that, cf. the

Re: [NTG-context] LaTeX reledmac: what about ConTeXt ?

Hi Pablo ! Now, with the same scheme you generously gave us, I try to print (as a sample) some Ancient Greek text on a column located at left, with its Latin translation located on the right of the page and 'criticus apparatus' in French the footnotes, as previously asked. Then, we have Greek,

Re: [NTG-context] Latin setupmathematics

> On 15 May 2016, at 15:37, Hans Hagen wrote: > > On 5/14/2016 7:11 PM, Hans Åberg wrote: >> In order to align with Unicode, \setupmathematics might have Latin shape >> options, as the Greek ‘lcgreek’ and ‘ucgreek', say ‘lclatin' and ‘uclatin', >> both defaulting to ’italic’.

Re: [NTG-context] Latin setupmathematics

On 5/14/2016 7:11 PM, Hans Åberg wrote: In order to align with Unicode, \setupmathematics might have Latin shape options, as the Greek ‘lcgreek’ and ‘ucgreek', say ‘lclatin' and ‘uclatin', both defaulting to ’italic’. Unicode added the Latin italic symbols to the Math Alphanumeric Symbols

Re: [NTG-context] LaTeX reledmac: what about ConTeXt ?

Thank you very much Pablo ! I've tested on my Windows/Linux/Mac OS X installation and it's working fine. I've tried to change different parameters and your code is always working perfectly. I'll make a SVG print in order to screen it on https://fr.wikibooks.org/wiki/ConTeXt. One more time :

Re: [NTG-context] Nolimits not working with Unicode characters

> On 14 May 2016, at 23:26, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > Be careful with empty group in math mode: > > \startformula{} -a \stopformula > \startformula\relax -a \stopformula Maybe a way to distinguish between unary prefix operator “-“, and binary infix operator “-“: {} is

[NTG-context] What are your ten (10) favorite typography books of the last 50 years? (*not* OT)

Read and propagate https://microsoft.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_blblv4EYNaboPnn -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl /

Re: [NTG-context] Help with configuring Textadept to work with ConTeXt

Hi ! I don't know Textadept (I'm using TeXWorks). And it is not a good idea to have ConTeXt working in parallel with MikTeX (see here : http://wiki.contextgarden.net/MikTeX). It seems that MiKTeX 2.9 is working with luatex... Maybe you can find some answers if you take advice from TeXWorks

Re: [NTG-context] Nolimits not working with Unicode characters

On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Hans Åberg wrote: > > > On 14 May 2016, at 23:26, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > > >>> Use > >>> \startformula\relax > >>> ... > >>> \stopformula > >> > >> Just about anything seems to work: > >> I put in an empty group > >>

Re: [NTG-context] Nolimits not working with Unicode characters

> On 14 May 2016, at 23:26, Aditya Mahajan wrote: >>> Use >>> \startformula\relax >>> ... >>> \stopformula >> >> Just about anything seems to work: >> I put in an empty group >> \startformula{} >> ... >> \stopformula > > Be careful with empty group in math mode: > >