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Hi,
Just installed minimal on CentOS x86_64. The installation is ok, but
when I try pdftex, there is error:

 pdftex
pdftex: /lib64/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.7' not found (required by pdftex)

 yum list installed glibc*
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, priorities
Excluding Packages in global exclude list
Finished
Installed Packages
glibc.i686   2.5-42
  installed
glibc.x86_64 2.5-42
  installed
glibc-common.x86_64  2.5-42
  installed
glibc-devel.x86_64   2.5-42
  installed
glibc-headers.x86_64 2.5-42
  installed

I have both glibc.i686  glibc.x86_64 on my box.

Any help for this problem ?

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Minimal: error pdftex on CentOS x86_64

On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 18:00, Vnpenguin wrote:
 Hi,
 Just installed minimal on CentOS x86_64. The installation is ok, but
 when I try pdftex, there is error:

 pdftex
 pdftex: /lib64/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.7' not found (required by pdftex)

 Any help for this problem ?

This is weird. Peter - did you upgrade your linux in the meantime by
any chance? (The update dates back to 17th October.)

I can roll back, but I don't know to which version. Are you familiar
with svn? Can you try to figure out what version works OK for you?

svn co http://svn.contextgarden.net/minimals/bin/tex/linux-64/current/pdftex

and then you need to navigate back in time with

svn log
svn up -r 510 (or any other version)

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Minimal: error pdftex on CentOS x86_64

I forgot to ask: does only pdftex cause problems or also metapost,
luatex, xetex? It might help to know which of these programs still
work.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Minimal: error pdftex on CentOS x86_64

On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 18:00, Vnpenguin wrote:

 pdftex: /lib64/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.7' not found (required by pdftex)

 glibc.i686                                               2.5-42

 Any help for this problem ?

Yes, the easy answer would be upgrade your linux, but we probably
want the binaries to run on slightly older machines as well.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Minimal: error pdftex on CentOS x86_64

2009/11/1 Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com:
 Yes, the easy answer would be upgrade your linux, but we probably
 want the binaries to run on slightly older machines as well.

Indeed. Btw: The binaries from TL run on SUSE 10.1 (which has glibc
2.4).

Best
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Minimal: error pdftex on CentOS x86_64

On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 18:47, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
 On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 18:00, Vnpenguin wrote:
 Hi,
 Just installed minimal on CentOS x86_64. The installation is ok, but
 when I try pdftex, there is error:

 pdftex
 pdftex: /lib64/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.7' not found (required by pdftex)

 Any help for this problem ?

 This is weird. Peter - did you upgrade your linux in the meantime by
 any chance? (The update dates back to 17th October.)

Or maybe I was too fast. I don't find the exact timeline of libc
development, so I have no idea how old your linux is. I thought that
this failure was recent, but apparently it's not (the garden most
probably has libc-2.8). For 32-bit linux we try to be *very* backward
compatible. For 64-bit Peter most probably has the oldest linux OS
running on 64-bit processor in the community.

You are the first one with something older. The problem is that either:
- we need to find someone that will compile the binaries on old-enough linux
- or, if you have a chance to figure out how to upgrade to something
that supports at least 2.7

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Minimal: error pdftex on CentOS x86_64

2009-11-01 Thread Hans Hagen


Martin Schröder wrote:

2009/11/1 Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com:

Yes, the easy answer would be upgrade your linux, but we probably
want the binaries to run on slightly older machines as well.


Indeed. Btw: The binaries from TL run on SUSE 10.1 (which has glibc
2.4).


ah, so maybe you can learn mojca a few tricks then; does this mean that 
tex live binaries have some built in magic that checks for libs?


Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Minimal: error pdftex on CentOS x86_64

2009/11/1 Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com:
 I'm sweating ... trying to download Sarge DVD on this extra-slow
 connection. And then you remind me that I have a big cartoon box of
 original SuSE 7.2 right below my desk. (Maybe I should start
 considering throwing away a few things like this one, though it seems
 to come handy from time to time when one least expects it.)

I tested with 10.1 (which still had 2.4).

 (The only problem is that I'm not yet sure if SVN has already been
 developed at the time when SuSE 7 has been released.)

Probably not. :-)

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Minimal: error pdftex on CentOS x86_64

2009/11/1 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl:
 Martin Schröder wrote:
 Indeed. Btw: The binaries from TL run on SUSE 10.1 (which has glibc
 2.4).

 ah, so maybe you can learn mojca a few tricks then; does this mean that tex
 live binaries have some built in magic that checks for libs?

No, they are simply build on old systems. Ask Peter. :-)

Best
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Minimal: error pdftex on CentOS x86_64

On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 18:48, Mojca Miklavec
mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 I forgot to ask: does only pdftex cause problems or also metapost,
 luatex, xetex? It might help to know which of these programs still
 work.


 mpost
mpost: /lib64/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.7' not found (required by mpost)


 luatex
This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.43.0-2009081914
 \write18 enabled.
**
(I used Ctrl+C to exit here)

 xetex
xetex: /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.9' not found
(required by xetex)

My box is CentOS x86_64 5.4 with all updates.

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Minimal: error pdftex on CentOS x86_64

2009-11-01 Thread Hans Hagen


Martin Schröder wrote:

2009/11/1 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl:

Martin Schröder wrote:

Indeed. Btw: The binaries from TL run on SUSE 10.1 (which has glibc
2.4).

ah, so maybe you can learn mojca a few tricks then; does this mean that tex
live binaries have some built in magic that checks for libs?


No, they are simply build on old systems. Ask Peter. :-)


ah, so they're static binaries

Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Minimal: error pdftex on CentOS x86_64

On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 18:50, Mojca Miklavec
mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 18:00, Vnpenguin wrote:

 pdftex: /lib64/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.7' not found (required by pdftex)

 glibc.i686                                               2.5-42

 Any help for this problem ?

 Yes, the easy answer would be upgrade your linux, but we probably
 want the binaries to run on slightly older machines as well.


My box CentOS 5.4 with all updates. What do you mean upgrade ?

Q
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Minimal: error pdftex on CentOS x86_64

2009/11/1 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl:
 Martin Schröder wrote:
 No, they are simply build on old systems. Ask Peter. :-)

 ah, so they're static binaries

Mostly. glibc is not statically linked.

 ldd Master/bin/x86_64-linux/pdftex
libm.so.6 = /lib64/libm.so.6 (0x2b1771708000)
libc.so.6 = /lib64/libc.so.6 (0x2b177195b000)
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x2b17714eb000)

Best
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Minimal: error pdftex on CentOS x86_64

2009/11/1 Vnpenguin vnpeng...@vnoss.org:
 My box CentOS 5.4 with all updates. What do you mean upgrade ?

What glibc-version do you have? rpm -qi glibc?

Best
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Minimal: error pdftex on CentOS x86_64

2009/11/1 Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com:
 Or maybe I was too fast. I don't find the exact timeline of libc
 development, so I have no idea how old your linux is. I thought that
 this failure was recent, but apparently it's not (the garden most
 probably has libc-2.8). For 32-bit linux we try to be *very* backward
 compatible. For 64-bit Peter most probably has the oldest linux OS
 running on 64-bit processor in the community.

 You are the first one with something older. The problem is that either:
 - we need to find someone that will compile the binaries on old-enough linux
 - or, if you have a chance to figure out how to upgrade to something
 that supports at least 2.7

2.7 is quite new, and 2.8 is very new. My SUSE 10.3 (which is now two
years old and will be upgraded soon) has 2.6.1.

Best
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Minimal: error pdftex on CentOS x86_64

On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 19:30, Martin Schröder mar...@oneiros.de wrote:
 2009/11/1 Vnpenguin vnpeng...@vnoss.org:
 My box CentOS 5.4 with all updates. What do you mean upgrade ?

 What glibc-version do you have? rpm -qi glibc?


# yum list installed glibc\*
Excluding Packages in global exclude list
Finished
Installed Packages
glibc.i686   2.5-42
  installed
glibc.x86_64  2.5-42
   installed


# rpm -qi glibc
Name: glibcRelocations: (not relocatable)
Version : 2.5   Vendor: CentOS
Release : 42Build Date: Thu 03 Sep
2009 02:19:32 AM CEST
Install Date: Mon 26 Oct 2009 10:15:57 AM CET  Build Host:
builder10.centos.org
Group   : System Environment/Libraries   Source RPM: glibc-2.5-42.src.rpm
Size: 11658002 License: LGPL
Signature   : DSA/SHA1, Thu 01 Oct 2009 02:40:46 AM CEST, Key ID
a8a447dce8562897
Summary : The GNU libc libraries.
Description :
The glibc package contains standard libraries which are used by
multiple programs on the system. In order to save disk space and
memory, as well as to make upgrading easier, common system code is
kept in one place and shared between programs. This particular package
contains the most important sets of shared libraries: the standard C
library and the standard math library. Without these two libraries, a
Linux system will not function.
Name: glibcRelocations: (not relocatable)
Version : 2.5   Vendor: CentOS
Release : 42Build Date: Thu 03 Sep
2009 02:56:59 AM CEST
Install Date: Mon 26 Oct 2009 10:16:12 AM CET  Build Host:
builder16.centos.org
Group   : System Environment/Libraries   Source RPM: glibc-2.5-42.src.rpm
Size: 12629247 License: LGPL
Signature   : DSA/SHA1, Thu 01 Oct 2009 02:40:45 AM CEST, Key ID
a8a447dce8562897
Summary : The GNU libc libraries.
Description :
The glibc package contains standard libraries which are used by
multiple programs on the system. In order to save disk space and
memory, as well as to make upgrading easier, common system code is
kept in one place and shared between programs. This particular package
contains the most important sets of shared libraries: the standard C
library and the standard math library. Without these two libraries, a
Linux system will not function.


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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Minimal: error pdftex on CentOS x86_64

On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 19:24, Vnpenguin wrote:
 On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 18:50, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
 On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 18:00, Vnpenguin wrote:

 pdftex: /lib64/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.7' not found (required by pdftex)

 glibc.i686                                               2.5-42

 Any help for this problem ?

 Yes, the easy answer would be upgrade your linux, but we probably
 want the binaries to run on slightly older machines as well.

 My box CentOS 5.4 with all updates. What do you mean upgrade ?

Hello,

Apparently it means that CentOS uses something like a
several-years-span-back-in-time libc library and you cannot do much
about it. That's no problem in general since you would not take a
suse-compiled firefox and take the binary to your CentOS.

You are the first user that has complained so far (most probably
because you are the first user to try ConTeXt on CentOS). There are
several options:
a) (dangerous; I would not do it) install a more recent version of
libc on your machine
b) we need to set up some virtual machine with an old linux and
compile binaries there or find someone else with a reasonably old
64-bit linux server
c) you would need to compile the binaries for minimals on regular basis
d) since LuaTeX works fine, just stick to MKIV (MKII is highly
unsuitable for writing Vietnamese anyway :) :) :)
e) Reinhard was trying to convince me to typeset some of his
Vietnamese documents in ConTeXt back in May. Those test documents have
revealed quite some bugs in font setups in ConTeXt MKII. If Reinhard
still neeeds fixed Vietnamese in ConTeXt MKII, we'll gladly give him
svn account to commit 64-bit linux binaries for minimals, so that he
doesn't get out of the art of compiling TeX binaries exercise
between the long breaks in TeX Live releases.

I suggest you to go for D, at least for a moment. The rest highly
depends on you. E is not to be taken too seriously.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Minimal: error pdftex on CentOS x86_64

On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 19:59, Mojca Miklavec
mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 19:24, Vnpenguin wrote:
 On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 18:50, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
 On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 18:00, Vnpenguin wrote:

 pdftex: /lib64/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.7' not found (required by 
 pdftex)

 glibc.i686                                               2.5-42

 Any help for this problem ?

 Yes, the easy answer would be upgrade your linux, but we probably
 want the binaries to run on slightly older machines as well.

 My box CentOS 5.4 with all updates. What do you mean upgrade ?

 Hello,

 Apparently it means that CentOS uses something like a
 several-years-span-back-in-time libc library and you cannot do much
 about it. That's no problem in general since you would not take a
 suse-compiled firefox and take the binary to your CentOS.

Hey, CentOS 5.4 just released on 21-May-2009 :-) If I have problem
with ConTeXt on CentOS 5.4 so all users of RHEL 5.4 are the same: they
can not!

 You are the first user that has complained so far (most probably
 because you are the first user to try ConTeXt on CentOS). There are
 several options:
 a) (dangerous; I would not do it) install a more recent version of
 libc on your machine

It's NOT possible.

 b) we need to set up some virtual machine with an old linux and
 compile binaries there or find someone else with a reasonably old
 64-bit linux server

...

 c) you would need to compile the binaries for minimals on regular basis

Howto do this ? Is there any guide ?

 d) since LuaTeX works fine, just stick to MKIV (MKII is highly
 unsuitable for writing Vietnamese anyway :) :) :)
 e) Reinhard was trying to convince me to typeset some of his
 Vietnamese documents in ConTeXt back in May. Those test documents have
 revealed quite some bugs in font setups in ConTeXt MKII. If Reinhard
 still neeeds fixed Vietnamese in ConTeXt MKII, we'll gladly give him
 svn account to commit 64-bit linux binaries for minimals, so that he
 doesn't get out of the art of compiling TeX binaries exercise
 between the long breaks in TeX Live releases.

I setup ConTeXt to test some things at work, nothing to see with vietnamese yet.

If it's not possible with ConTeXt minimal distro, maybe I'll go for TeXlive.

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Minimal: error pdftex on CentOS x86_64


 Hey, CentOS 5.4 just released on 21-May-2009 :-) If I have problem
 with ConTeXt on CentOS 5.4 so all users of RHEL 5.4 are the same: they
 can not!


Correction: CentOS 5.4 was released on 21-Oct-2009. So it's not so
old at all :-)
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Minimal: error pdftex on CentOS x86_64

On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 21:10, Vnpenguin wrote:
 On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 19:59, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 Apparently it means that CentOS uses something like a
 several-years-span-back-in-time libc library and you cannot do much
 about it. That's no problem in general since you would not take a
 suse-compiled firefox and take the binary to your CentOS.

 Hey, CentOS 5.4 just released on 21-Oct-2009 :-) If I have problem
 with ConTeXt on CentOS 5.4 so all users of RHEL 5.4 are the same: they
 can not!

Yes, I have noticed.

People often reply to come to mailing list saying I have installed
the brand new Ubuntu and yet they have something like 4-year-old
ConTeXt.

This is nothing bad. It's just a bad luck in this particular case, but
we'll solve it.

 c) you would need to compile the binaries for minimals on regular basis

 Howto do this ? Is there any guide ?

Not really. Just the first line of
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Minimals/Implementation
that says
 svn co http://svn.contextgarden.net/minimals-src/build-binaries
and then you need to run the script build-binaries (but it will fail
since you don't have the rights yet).

You may try to run ./update-binaries.sh first and then compile pdftex
to start with (it returns warnings, but feel free to ignore them; the
binary should nevertheless be there). We can create you an account,
but we need to talk first just to agree on the building schedule.

 If it's not possible with ConTeXt minimal distro, maybe I'll go for TeXlive.

Are you planning to use MKII (pdftex) or MKIV (unicode and opentype
fonts with luatex)? In TeX Live the MKIV support is hardly usable, but
feel free to go testing TeX Live. You may install TL 2009 in a really
minimalistic way. (Almost the same size as minimals, and in completely
isolated folder.)

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Minimal: error pdftex on CentOS x86_64

2009/11/1 Vnpenguin vnpeng...@vnoss.org:
 Correction: CentOS 5.4 was released on 21-Oct-2009. So it's not so
 old at all :-)

Sorry, but it is. It's a free version of RHEL5, which was initially
released in 2007.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centos

It you want something modern, use e.g. Fedora.

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Minimal: error pdftex on CentOS x86_64

Vnpenguin, what kernel is running on your OS?

If we set up a virtual machine for compiling binaries - does anyone
have a suggesting what OS to take, so that it will remain compatible
with as many x86_64 processors as possible? (Apparently glibc and
kerner are the deciding factors; but it needs to have support for
64-bit machines that are not as old as it seems after all.)

Reinhard - what linux are you using for TL?

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Minimal: error pdftex on CentOS x86_64

On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 21:45, Mojca Miklavec
mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 Vnpenguin, what kernel is running on your OS?

The current kernel is:

 uname -r
2.6.18-164.2.1.el5


 If we set up a virtual machine for compiling binaries - does anyone
 have a suggesting what OS to take, so that it will remain compatible
 with as many x86_64 processors as possible? (Apparently glibc and
 kerner are the deciding factors; but it needs to have support for
 64-bit machines that are not as old as it seems after all.)

If you would like to put ConTeXt in industrial/business world you can
not ignore RHEL  CentOS :-)


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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Minimal: error pdftex on CentOS x86_64

2009-11-01 Thread Reinhard Kotucha

On 1 November 2009 Mojca Miklavec wrote:

  Vnpenguin, what kernel is running on your OS?
  
  If we set up a virtual machine for compiling binaries - does anyone
  have a suggesting what OS to take, so that it will remain compatible
  with as many x86_64 processors as possible? (Apparently glibc and
  kerner are the deciding factors; but it needs to have support for
  64-bit machines that are not as old as it seems after all.)
  
  Reinhard - what linux are you using for TL?

# uname -a
Linux zaphod 2.6.20-gentoo-r8 #1 SMP Mon Apr 14 01:07:33 CEST 2008 x86_64 AMD 
Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4800+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux

But please note that the binaries for this platform were provided by
Peter Breitenlohner this year.  His system is even older than mine.
It's better to ask him if you need the details (peb at mppmu.mpg.de).

BTW, the glibc is much more important than the kernel.  And maybe the
version of gcc matters, too.  

Regards,
  Reinhard

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Minimal: error pdftex on CentOS x86_64

2009-11-01 Thread Peter Münster

On Sun, Nov 01 2009, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
 
  pdftex
  pdftex: /lib64/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.7' not found (required by pdftex)
 
  Any help for this problem ?
 
 This is weird. Peter - did you upgrade your linux in the meantime by
 any chance? (The update dates back to 17th October.)

Hello,

Indeed, I've updated my glibc accidentally¹ on 5th October
from 2.9 to 2.10.

So all binaries, that I've built after this date are affected by this
problem (dependency on GLIBC_2.7). Example for luatex:

~/minimals/bin/linux-64/current/luatex ldd -v beta-0.4[34].0/luatex
beta-0.43.0/luatex:
linux-vdso.so.1 =  (0x7fffb6384000)
libm.so.6 = /lib64/libm.so.6 (0x7f65e6474000)
libc.so.6 = /lib64/libc.so.6 (0x7f65e611b000)
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x7f65e66ca000)

Version information:
beta-0.43.0/luatex:
ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (GLIBC_2.3) = /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.3) = /lib64/libc.so.6
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.2.5) = /lib64/libc.so.6
libm.so.6 (GLIBC_2.2.5) = /lib64/libm.so.6
/lib64/libm.so.6:
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.2.5) = /lib64/libc.so.6
/lib64/libc.so.6:
ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (GLIBC_PRIVATE) = /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (GLIBC_2.3) = /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
beta-0.44.0/luatex:
linux-vdso.so.1 =  (0x7dfff000)
libm.so.6 = /lib64/libm.so.6 (0x7f53c4dbb000)
libc.so.6 = /lib64/libc.so.6 (0x7f53c4a62000)
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x7f53c5011000)

Version information:
beta-0.44.0/luatex:
ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (GLIBC_2.3) = /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
libm.so.6 (GLIBC_2.2.5) = /lib64/libm.so.6
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.3) = /lib64/libc.so.6
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.7) = /lib64/libc.so.6
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.2.5) = /lib64/libc.so.6
/lib64/libm.so.6:
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.2.5) = /lib64/libc.so.6
/lib64/libc.so.6:
ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (GLIBC_PRIVATE) = /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (GLIBC_2.3) = /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2


I've just downgraded my glibc to 2.9 and I'm now rebuilding metapost,
luatex and pdftex. We will see in about 1 hour, if this solves the problem.

Cheers, Peter


Note 1: I only wanted to update my glib, so I've done a
' zypper up *glib* '.

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[NTG-context] Can I use pdftex and texexec with latest download.

2009-08-17 Thread John Culleton

Been away from Context for a while so please bear with me. 

I just downloaded context-minimal to my home directory using the 
sh ./first-setup.sh
script. I want to use pdftex primarily and now and then regular 
Context with texexec.  I note that the download has references to 
luatex however, which I don't need/don't want to fool with.  Is 
this download OK for my purposes or must I use another download 
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Re: [NTG-context] Can I use pdftex and texexec with latest download.

2009-08-17 Thread Aditya Mahajan


On Mon, 17 Aug 2009, John Culleton wrote:


Been away from Context for a while so please bear with me.

I just downloaded context-minimal to my home directory using the
sh ./first-setup.sh
script. I want to use pdftex primarily and now and then regular
Context with texexec.  I note that the download has references to
luatex however, which I don't need/don't want to fool with.  Is
this download OK for my purposes or must I use another download
method?


Yes, simply source setuptex script and then texexec should work fine.

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Re: [NTG-context] pdftex error

2009-03-11 Thread Mojca Miklavec

On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 07:41, Yue Wang wrote:
 Mojca:

 This problem is still not fixed. Try to add both kpathsea357.dll
 (required by luatex) and kpathsea357-dev.dll (required by pdftex,
 xetex, mpost) into your fetch script.

Hello,

Thanks a lot for the reminder and sorry for keeping you waiting (I'm
still on holidays).

I used to update windows binaries by hand, and then Akira started
reminding me to update the binaries in minimals. Now I have set up
automatic updates, but then libraries constantly fail to work because
they change the names (and names are hardcoded at several places as it
stands now).

Once I'll have more time I'll rewrite the scripts to watch for changes
in libraries in Akira's zips.

If you didn't warn me to get the kpathsea357.dll library, you would be
left with a broken installation again :) :) :) That library has been
removed from the main tex zip and will be removed from the luatex zip
as well as soon as Taco releases a new beta. So ... yes, I need to
figure out a way to update things in some better and more clever way
than whan we do now.

One tiny question for those working on Windows (I used to have a
program to track library dependencies, but I forgot which one):
minimals have plenty of binaries like bibtex.exe that are taken from
TeX Live 2008. Any idea which library those binaries depend on?

Thanks,
Mojca

 Yue Wang

 On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Yue Wang yuleo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes. she needs to add that line into her script.
 for now you can manually get that from w32tex's luatex-dev package.


 On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Fengnan fnst...@hotmail.com wrote:
 When I updated my context minimal earlier today, at the end of the update
 process, the cmd window pops up a error message box which says Unable to
 find kpathsea357-dev.dll, so this program cannot be started ( I translate
 from Chinese). Just pure guess, did Mojca forget to put the file in the
 right place?

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Re: [NTG-context] pdftex error

2009-03-11 Thread Yue Wang

Hi,

 One tiny question for those working on Windows (I used to have a
 program to track library dependencies, but I forgot which one):
 minimals have plenty of binaries like bibtex.exe that are taken from
 TeX Live 2008. Any idea which library those binaries depend on?

exescope can do that.

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Re: [NTG-context] pdftex error

2009-03-11 Thread Mojca Miklavec

On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 02:53, Yue Wang wrote:
 btw, see also http://www.dependencywalker.com/

Thanks,

The page looks familiar, maybe I have used exactly that program in
past, but the main problem is the dependency of that program itself :)
:) :) It needs windows :) :) :)

I got the reply from Akira, so I'll try to fix a few things in a week
or later. I hope that the binaries at least work now.

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Re: [NTG-context] pdftex error

2009-03-10 Thread Yue Wang

Mojca:

This problem is still not fixed. Try to add both kpathsea357.dll
(required by luatex) and kpathsea357-dev.dll (required by pdftex,
xetex, mpost) into your fetch script.

Yue Wang

On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Yue Wang yuleo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes. she needs to add that line into her script.
 for now you can manually get that from w32tex's luatex-dev package.


 On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Fengnan fnst...@hotmail.com wrote:
 When I updated my context minimal earlier today, at the end of the update
 process, the cmd window pops up a error message box which says Unable to
 find kpathsea357-dev.dll, so this program cannot be started ( I translate
 from Chinese). Just pure guess, did Mojca forget to put the file in the
 right place?

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Re: [NTG-context] pdftex error

2009-03-09 Thread Yue Wang

Yes. she needs to add that line into her script.
for now you can manually get that from w32tex's luatex-dev package.


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Re: [NTG-context] installing fonts pdftex

2009-01-30 Thread Patrick Gundlach

Hi,

 this http://wiki.contextgarden.net/otfinst did it and it actually
 worked quite well, thanks a lot. 

good to know :-)

 it even took care of the dashes
 problem.  do you know how to default to old style numerals the 'osf'
 doesn't seem to work, and i'm certain that the font supports it.  and
 if you so happen to be the author, you've got a bug; 

I am the anonymous author :), I'll have a look into this this weekend.

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Re: [NTG-context] installing fonts pdftex

2009-01-29 Thread Mohamed Bana

this http://wiki.contextgarden.net/otfinst did it and it actually worked 
quite well, thanks a lot.  it even took care of the dashes problem.  do 
you know how to default to old style numerals the 'osf' doesn't seem to 
work, and i'm certain that the font supports it.  and if you so happen 
to be the author, you've got a bug; if i chose Sans, it generates this 
typescript



\definetypeface [sample][rm][serif][cronospro][default][encoding=texnansi]

instead of

\definetypeface [sample][ss][sans][cronospro][default][encoding=texnansi]




Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:


On Jan 27, 2009, at 12:28 AM, Mohamed Bana wrote:


Hi Thomas,



Hi,

please address questions to the mailing-list, not to me personally.

1. when is the last time you tried to install a font manually using 
texfont?  i've been trying to get install warnockpro and cronospro - 
both of which are .otf - but i've had no lack.


texfont --makepath --install --fontroot=`pwd` --vendor=adobe 
--co=warnockpro --en=texnansi --lcdf --preproc 
--variant=liga,kern,smcp,onum


the last time i checked texfont was generating an empty map file.


texfont is really old, it predates opentype fonts, so you can't expect 
it to handle such fonts. It was a brave and wonderful effort to automate 
installation of fonts, but I gave up using it - not because texfont 
itself is bad, but because so many fonts are just faulty and/or 
idiosyncratic, and automatization just can't handle all these eceptions. 
I always had to double-check and edit files by hand, so I decided to go 
for a manual process. The --lcdf switch was added by Adam Lindsay, who 
also wrote a short article about otf and ConTeXt: 
http://www.tug.org/pracjourn/2005-2/lindsay/lindsay.pdf Too bad Adam 
isn't active anymore, he was a great help in ConTeXt development. If you 
search the mailing list archive for texfont lcdf, you will see that 
the problem with the empty map file is common and was never really 
solved, AFAIK.


So you have several options:

1. install the fonts manually

2. use texfont and write the map file manually

3. try Patrick's otfinst http://wiki.contextgarden.net/otfinst

4. I have a set of support files for using Cronos and Warnock with 
pdftex; if you want, I can make a zip and send them to you (not before 
Thursday, however).



the free version of lucida (.ttf) that ship with Java files worked fine

2. is there someone i must do to get to dashes working properly?  as 
in, --- doesn't generate the right dash nor does --.


These are defined as ligatures in the tfm/vf files. Doesn't texfont 
produce vpl-files as an intermediate format? You could open those and 
check whether the ligature is defined. It probably isn't, and then you 
have to hunt down the reason or add it manually...



Good luck

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Re: [NTG-context] installing fonts pdftex

2009-01-27 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On Jan 27, 2009, at 12:28 AM, Mohamed Bana wrote:

Hi Thomas,

Hi,

please address questions to the mailing-list, not to me personally.

1. when is the last time you tried to install a font manually using
texfont? i've been trying to get install warnockpro and cronospro -
both of which are .otf - but i've had no lack.

texfont --makepath --install --fontroot=`pwd` --vendor=adobe --
co=warnockpro --en=texnansi --lcdf --preproc --
variant=liga,kern,smcp,onum

the last time i checked texfont was generating an empty map file.

texfont is really old, it predates opentype fonts, so you can't expect
it to handle such fonts. It was a brave and wonderful effort to
automate installation of fonts, but I gave up using it - not because
texfont itself is bad, but because so many fonts are just faulty and/
or idiosyncratic, and automatization just can't handle all these
eceptions. I always had to double-check and edit files by hand, so I
decided to go for a manual process. The --lcdf switch was added by
Adam Lindsay, who also wrote a short article about otf and ConTeXt: http://www.tug.org/pracjourn/2005-2/lindsay/lindsay.pdf
Too bad Adam isn't active anymore, he was a great help in ConTeXt
development. If you search the mailing list archive for texfont
lcdf, you will see that the problem with the empty map file is common
and was never really solved, AFAIK.

So you have several options:

1. install the fonts manually

2. use texfont and write the map file manually

3. try Patrick's otfinst http://wiki.contextgarden.net/otfinst

4. I have a set of support files for using Cronos and Warnock with
pdftex; if you want, I can make a zip and send them to you (not before
Thursday, however).

the free version of lucida (.ttf) that ship with Java files worked
fine

2. is there someone i must do to get to dashes working properly? as
in, --- doesn't generate the right dash nor does --.

These are defined as ligatures in the tfm/vf files. Doesn't texfont
produce vpl-files as an intermediate format? You could open those and
check whether the ligature is defined. It probably isn't, and then you
have to hunt down the reason or add it manually...

Good luck

Thomas
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[NTG-context] pdftex and xetex not working at live.contextgarden.net

2008-11-10 Thread Pablo Rodríguez

Hi there,

LuaTeX seems to have been removed from live.contextgarden.net, but it 
seems that neither the pdftex nor xetex engine is able to compile the 
most basic

\starttext
Hello world!
\stoptext

Just in case it helps and none has noticed it.


Pablo
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Re: [NTG-context] pdftex and xetex not working at live.contextgarden.net

2008-11-10 Thread Mojca Miklavec

On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 8:56 PM, Pablo Rodríguez wrote:
 Hi there,

 LuaTeX seems to have been removed from live.contextgarden.net, but it
 seems that neither the pdftex nor xetex engine is able to compile the
 most basic

 \starttext
 Hello world!
 \stoptext

 Just in case it helps and none has noticed it.

If Patrick finds no time to fix auto-format-generation, I'll enable
luatex engine again :)

Mojca

... so that users can fix the problem themselves, or maybe the
advanced ones can simply replace the current version of live with
something more fancy; that should be doable :) ...
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Re: [NTG-context] pdftex and xetex not working at live.contextgarden.net

2008-11-10 Thread Patrick Gundlach

Hi,

 LuaTeX seems to have been removed from live.contextgarden.net, but it
 seems that neither the pdftex nor xetex engine is able to compile the
 most basic

 \starttext
 Hello world!
 \stoptext

 Just in case it helps and none has noticed it.

 If Patrick finds no time to fix auto-format-generation, I'll enable
 luatex engine again :)

Then I guess you have to enable luatex again :)

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Re: [NTG-context] Odd Behavior in pdftex/xetex

2008-05-28 Thread Michael . Urban

text and non text and such
 
 If he use \retype the table works.
 

Thanks; and so does \asciistr

I cannot find documentation on \retype, \asciistr, nor \simplifytype ;
in which situations should these be used?

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Re: [NTG-context] Odd Behavior in pdftex/xetex

2008-05-28 Thread Hans Hagen

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 text and non text and such
 If he use \retype the table works.

 
 Thanks; and so does \asciistr
 
 I cannot find documentation on \retype, \asciistr, nor \simplifytype ;
 in which situations should these be used?

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Re: [NTG-context] Odd Behavior in pdftex/xetex

2008-05-24 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

On Fri, 23 May 2008 22:29:06 +0200
Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The following specimen was run on live.contextgarden.net with each of
  the three typesetters:
  
  \setupcolors[state=start]
  \starttext
  \input knuth
  
  \bTABLE
  \bTR [align=middle]\bTH Range\eTH{}\bTH Value\eTH{}\eTR
  \bTR \bTD \type{} 12\eTD{}\bTD 3\eTD{}\eTR
  \bTR \bTD 12--16\eTD{}\bTD 2\eTD{}\eTR
  \bTR \bTD \type{}16\eTD{}\bTD 1\eTD{}\eTR
  \eTABLE
  
  \input knuth
  \stoptext
  
  
  In the case of pdfTeX and XeTeX, the table is given a width equal
  to the textwidth; in the caes of LuaTeX, it is typeset correctly
  with natural widths.
  
  When \setupcolors is removed, both pdfTeX and XeTeX also produce
  the correct result.
  
  This sounds like a bug to me (and took me forever to isolate
  \setupcolors - of all things! - as the culprit).
 
 actually it's the \type (combined with colors)
 
 \dontleavehmode \type {xx}
 
 works ok
 
 probably some pdfliteral is playing havoc here so that the width analyer 
 cannot function well (a limitation of tex is that there's only a small 
 set subset of \un* and \last* node operations); if you see messages like 
 this
 
!!forced exit from shapebox 9!!
 
 that is indeed the case. hoewver, in mkiv i use different trickery so 
 there we don't have this problem (we also use a different color 
 mechanism so that helps too)
 
 it's not so much a bug in mkii as well as a side effect/limitation
 
 okay, we could add \dontleavehmode to \type but i'm not sure if that 
 will not break other things; also, bTABLE is kind of tricky because it 
 needs to be clever with regards to text and non text and such

If he use \retype the table works.

Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Odd Behavior in pdftex/xetex

2008-05-23 Thread Michael . Urban

The following specimen was run on live.contextgarden.net with each of
the three typesetters:

\setupcolors[state=start]
\starttext
\input knuth

\bTABLE
\bTR [align=middle]\bTH Range\eTH{}\bTH Value\eTH{}\eTR
\bTR \bTD \type{} 12\eTD{}\bTD 3\eTD{}\eTR
\bTR \bTD 12--16\eTD{}\bTD 2\eTD{}\eTR
\bTR \bTD \type{}16\eTD{}\bTD 1\eTD{}\eTR
\eTABLE

\input knuth
\stoptext


In the case of pdfTeX and XeTeX, the table is given a width equal
to the textwidth; in the caes of LuaTeX, it is typeset correctly
with natural widths.

When \setupcolors is removed, both pdfTeX and XeTeX also produce
the correct result.

This sounds like a bug to me (and took me forever to isolate
\setupcolors - of all things! - as the culprit).
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Re: [NTG-context] Odd Behavior in pdftex/xetex

2008-05-23 Thread Hans Hagen

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The following specimen was run on live.contextgarden.net with each of
 the three typesetters:
 
 \setupcolors[state=start]
 \starttext
 \input knuth
 
 \bTABLE
 \bTR [align=middle]\bTH Range\eTH{}\bTH Value\eTH{}\eTR
 \bTR \bTD \type{} 12\eTD{}\bTD 3\eTD{}\eTR
 \bTR \bTD 12--16\eTD{}\bTD 2\eTD{}\eTR
 \bTR \bTD \type{}16\eTD{}\bTD 1\eTD{}\eTR
 \eTABLE
 
 \input knuth
 \stoptext
 
 
 In the case of pdfTeX and XeTeX, the table is given a width equal
 to the textwidth; in the caes of LuaTeX, it is typeset correctly
 with natural widths.
 
 When \setupcolors is removed, both pdfTeX and XeTeX also produce
 the correct result.
 
 This sounds like a bug to me (and took me forever to isolate
 \setupcolors - of all things! - as the culprit).

actually it's the \type (combined with colors)

\dontleavehmode \type {xx}

works ok

probably some pdfliteral is playing havoc here so that the width analyer 
cannot function well (a limitation of tex is that there's only a small 
set subset of \un* and \last* node operations); if you see messages like 
this

   !!forced exit from shapebox 9!!

that is indeed the case. hoewver, in mkiv i use different trickery so 
there we don't have this problem (we also use a different color 
mechanism so that helps too)

it's not so much a bug in mkii as well as a side effect/limitation

okay, we could add \dontleavehmode to \type but i'm not sure if that 
will not break other things; also, bTABLE is kind of tricky because it 
needs to be clever with regards to text and non text and such

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] problems with minimal/pdftex

2008-04-19 Thread Patrick Gundlach

Hello again,


 I've just downloaded a minimal for mac os x/power-pc and experience
 the following problem:

I've thought that the brokenness of the binary in the minimals is only
related to image inclusion, but it seems as if this touches more ares.

I have no problems in generating new binaries myself.

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Re: [NTG-context] problems with minimal/pdftex

2008-04-19 Thread Hans Hagen

Patrick Gundlach wrote:

 (/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/sort-lan.mkii)) [1.1pdftex: 
 Invalid argument

weird, looks like an message from pdftex itself

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Re: [NTG-context] problems with minimal/pdftex

2008-04-19 Thread Taco Hoekwater

Hans Hagen wrote:
 Patrick Gundlach wrote:
 
 (/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/sort-lan.mkii)) [1.1pdftex: 
 Invalid argument
 
 weird, looks like an message from pdftex itself

Like Martin said already: you get this kind of magic when the large file
support in the binary is misconfigured/miscompiled. Not a macro problem
at all.

Best wishes,
Taco

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Re: [NTG-context] problems with minimal/pdftex

2008-04-19 Thread Mojca Miklavec

On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
 Hans Hagen wrote:
   Patrick Gundlach wrote:
  
   (/opt/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/sort-lan.mkii)) 
 [1.1pdftex: Invalid argument
  
   weird, looks like an message from pdftex itself

  Like Martin said already: you get this kind of magic when the large file
  support in the binary is misconfigured/miscompiled. Not a macro problem
  at all.

If that's a problem with misconfiguration/miscompilation, then I'm
the one to be accused :P

The binary has most probably been cross-compiled on mac intel (some
versions were compiled natively, don't remember which one and when),
but it has been compiled the same way as the one for intel, only with
   CFLAGS=-arch ppc LDFLAGS=-arch ppc CXXFLAGS=-arch ppc ./build.sh
(thanks to Arthur) and with no special settings or other configuration options.

XeTeX, metapost and LuaTeX have been compiled in the same way, but
apparently they work?

On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Martin Schröder wrote:

  weird, looks like an message from pdftex itself

  No, it's glibc. :-(

Jonathan Kew has said that I might want to select a lower version of
something (maybe gcc) when cross-compiling for ppc. Could that be part
of the problem?

The problem is that I only build the ppc binaries and never have a
chance to test them.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] problems with minimal/pdftex

2008-04-19 Thread Martin Schröder

2008/4/19, Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  The problem is that I only build the ppc binaries and never have a
  chance to test them.

I hope that I'll be able to build _and_ test the ppc binaries on
Patrick's computer in the future.

Best
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Re: [NTG-context] problems with minimal/pdftex

2008-04-19 Thread Patrick Gundlach

Hi Martin,

 I hope that I'll be able to build _and_ test the ppc binaries on
 Patrick's computer in the future.

I'll give you an account on my machine on monday... So we(=you :) might
be able to track down this problem.

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Re: [NTG-context] problems with minimal/pdftex

2008-04-18 Thread Patrick Gundlach

Hi,

 I've just downloaded a minimal for mac os x/power-pc and experience
 the following problem:

[...]

additional info: 

$ pdftex --version
pdfTeX 3.141592-1.50.0-alpha-20071218-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.6)
kpathsea version 3.5.6dev
$ which pdftex
/opt/context/tex/texmf-osx-ppc/bin/pdftex


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Re: [NTG-context] bib module and pdftex 1.40.7: Virtual memory exhausted using MiKTeX-2.7

2008-02-27 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz


On Feb 20, 2008, at 10:05 AM, luigi scarso wrote:

 Just the other day, I encountered a mysterious error which may or may
 not be related. I upgraded to pdftex 1.40.7 on all my boxes. This was
 smooth on my intel-macs (OS X 10.5.2). On my powerpc-mac, I got a  
 TeX
 capacity exceeded! error with 1.40.7 for a file that compiled fine
 with 1.40.5. I tried several times: all I did was dropping the pdftex
 binary and pdftex.pool in place, rebuilding th format and compiling
 the file. Compilation was smooth with 1.40.5 and consistently failed
 with 1.40.7 (which I compiled and recompiled without any special
 flags). I haven't pursued the matter for the moment and just went  
 back
 to 1.40.5, but I'm wondering if these problems are related.
 Do you have a test file ?


Sorry, it took me a while because this is the computer in my office,  
from which I;ve been away for a while. I think I nailed it down: if I  
try to include a pdf image into a ConTeXt document


\starttext
  \externalfigure[Logo][width=56mm,height=20mm]
\stoptext

(with any pdf file) I get this error:

./Logo.pdf
! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [PDF object stream buffer=5].
\dogetTPDfiguresize ...geBox {\@@DriverImageFile }
   \xdef  
\PDFimagereference {...

\doanalyzefiguredimensionsinternal ...tfiguresize

\setanalyzedfiguredimensio...
argument ...}\doanalyzefiguredimensionsinternal

\doanalyzefiguredimensions...

\firstoftwoarguments #1#2-#1

\dododoanalyzeunknownfiguretype ...guredimensions
   \fi
\next2 ...dododoanalyzeunknownfiguretype {pdf}{#1}
   \doprocesscommaitem
...
l.4

!  == Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced!

The pdf file is OK; this error only occurs with pdftex 1.40.7 on  
powerpc (OS X, 10.5.2). The same file compiles fine with

luatex on powerpc and intel
pdftex 1.40.5 on powerpc and intel
pdftex 1.40.7 on OS X intel

All best

Thomas

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Re: [NTG-context] bib module and pdftex 1.40.7: Virtual memory exhausted using MiKTeX-2.7

2008-02-27 Thread Taco Hoekwater



Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
 On Feb 27, 2008, at 10:52 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
 
 that looks quite small to me

 Hans
 
 Question is: where does this value come from? Since it only occurs in  
 1.40.7, it must be some default value set during compilation of  
 pdftex, I assume?

Probably pdftex's intention is more like 300.000, but there is an
alignment shift because of byte order differences. (3016 == 5).
I suspect there will be a 1.40.8

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Re: [NTG-context] bib module and pdftex 1.40.7: Virtual memory exhausted using MiKTeX-2.7

2008-02-27 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz


On Feb 27, 2008, at 10:52 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:

 that looks quite small to me

 Hans

Question is: where does this value come from? Since it only occurs in  
1.40.7, it must be some default value set during compilation of  
pdftex, I assume?

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Re: [NTG-context] bib module and pdftex 1.40.7: Virtual memory exhausted using MiKTeX-2.7

2008-02-27 Thread Martin Schröder

2008/2/27, Thomas A. Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  The pdf file is OK; this error only occurs with pdftex 1.40.7 on
  powerpc (OS X, 10.5.2). The same file compiles fine with

How did you get the pdftex binary? Did you fiddle with --disable-largefile?

Best
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Re: [NTG-context] bib module and pdftex 1.40.7: Virtual memory exhausted using MiKTeX-2.7

2008-02-27 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz


On Feb 27, 2008, at 1:05 PM, Martin Schröder wrote:

 How did you get the pdftex binary? Did you fiddle with --disable- 
 largefile?

 Best
   Martin

I simply ran the build.sh script.

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[NTG-context] bib module and pdftex 1.40.7: Virtual memory exhausted using MiKTeX-2.7

2008-02-19 Thread George N. White III

Consider the trivial test file:

  -
% example from: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Bibliography
% Format using:
%   $ texexec --once t-cont
%   $ bibtex t-cont
%   $ texexec t-cont
\usemodule[bib]
\usemodule[bibltx]
\setupbibtex[database=xampl]
\starttext
As \cite[article-full] already indicated, bibtex is a \LaTeX-centric
program.
\completepublications
\stoptext
   -

Following instructions:
   -
 texexec --once bibdemo
TeXExec | processing document 'bibdemo'
TeXExec | no ctx file found
TeXExec | tex processing method: context
TeXExec | writing option file bibdemo.top
TeXExec | using randomseed 595
TeXExec | tex engine: pdftex
TeXExec | tex format: cont-en
This is pdfTeX, Version 3.141592-1.40.7 (MiKTeX 2.7)
entering extended mode
(bibdemo.tex

ConTeXt  ver: 2008.01.28 21:28 MKII  fmt: 2008.2.18  int: english/english
[]

Output written on bibdemo.pdf (2 pages, 42919 bytes).
Transcript written on bibdemo.log.

pdftex: Virtual memory exhausted while trying to reserve 8 bytes for table
???.
TeXExec | runtime: 2.828
  ---

I don't see this on my linux machines with older versions of ConTeXt and
pdftex.
Simple LaTeX documents and ConTeXt documents that don't use the bib module
don't give the error, so it looks like the bib module reveals a bug in
pdftex-1.40.n,
for some n larger than 3.


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Re: [NTG-context] bib module and pdftex 1.40.7: Virtual memory exhausted using MiKTeX-2.7

2008-02-19 Thread Hans Hagen

George N. White III wrote:
 Consider the trivial test file:
 
   -
 % example from: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Bibliography
 % Format using:
 %   $ texexec --once t-cont
 %   $ bibtex t-cont
 %   $ texexec t-cont
 \usemodule[bib]
 \usemodule[bibltx]
 \setupbibtex[database=xampl]
 \starttext
 As \cite[article-full] already indicated, bibtex is a \LaTeX-centric
 program.
 \completepublications
 \stoptext

 This is pdfTeX, Version 3.141592-1.40.7 (MiKTeX 2.7)

here i run

This is pdfTeX, Version 3.141592-1.40.5 (Web2C 7.5.6)

and that one does not crash; then i upated to

This is pdfTeX, Version 3.141592-1.50.0-alpha-20080214 (Web2C 7.5.6)


which also runs ok. maybe it's a miktex issue?

Hans





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Re: [NTG-context] bib module and pdftex 1.40.7: Virtual memory exhausted using MiKTeX-2.7

2008-02-19 Thread Mojca Miklavec

On Feb 19, 2008 10:53 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
 George N. White III wrote:
 
  Output written on bibdemo.pdf (2 pages, 42919 bytes).
  Transcript written on bibdemo.log.
 
  pdftex: Virtual memory exhausted while trying to reserve 8 bytes for table
  ???.

 It seems the error happens at the moment (or just before) pdftex is
 exited, which is an odd moment for an 'out of memory' type of problem.
 It looks to me like the error message comes from the operating system
 itself (it certainly does not look like a normal pdftex error, and I
 had not heard of it until now).

 It could be a problem that exists only in the miktex 2.7 version of
 pdftex, but there could also be an underlying problem in pdftex
 that for some reason only surfaces in miktex, has to say for sure.
 In any case, I cannot reproduce this on linux, and as far as I know
 none of the core pdftex developers use miktex, so you may have to
 ask on the miktex mailinglist instead.

Rather MikTeX developer directly or enter it to the bug tracker -
MikTeX mailing list is nearly dead in comparison to this one.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] bib module and pdftex 1.40.7: Virtual memory exhausted using MiKTeX-2.7

2008-02-19 Thread Taco Hoekwater

George N. White III wrote:
 
 Output written on bibdemo.pdf (2 pages, 42919 bytes).
 Transcript written on bibdemo.log.
 
 pdftex: Virtual memory exhausted while trying to reserve 8 bytes for table
 ???.

It seems the error happens at the moment (or just before) pdftex is
exited, which is an odd moment for an 'out of memory' type of problem.
It looks to me like the error message comes from the operating system
itself (it certainly does not look like a normal pdftex error, and I
had not heard of it until now).

It could be a problem that exists only in the miktex 2.7 version of 
pdftex, but there could also be an underlying problem in pdftex
that for some reason only surfaces in miktex, has to say for sure.
In any case, I cannot reproduce this on linux, and as far as I know
none of the core pdftex developers use miktex, so you may have to
ask on the miktex mailinglist instead.

Best wishes,
Taco

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Re: [NTG-context] bib module and pdftex 1.40.7: Virtual memory exhausted using MiKTeX-2.7

2008-02-19 Thread luigi scarso

On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 8:01 PM, George N. White III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Consider the trivial test file:

   -
 % example from: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Bibliography
 % Format using:
  %   $ texexec --once t-cont
 %   $ bibtex t-cont
 %   $ texexec t-cont
 \usemodule[bib]
 \usemodule[bibltx]
 \setupbibtex[database=xampl]
 \starttext
 As \cite[article-full] already indicated, bibtex is a \LaTeX-centric
 program.
  \completepublications
 \stoptext
-

 Following instructions:
-
  texexec --once bibdemo
 TeXExec | processing document 'bibdemo'
  TeXExec | no ctx file found
 TeXExec | tex processing method: context
 TeXExec | writing option file bibdemo.top
 TeXExec | using randomseed 595
 TeXExec | tex engine: pdftex
 TeXExec | tex format: cont-en
 This is pdfTeX, Version 3.141592-1.40.7 (MiKTeX 2.7)
  entering extended mode
 (bibdemo.tex

 ConTeXt  ver: 2008.01.28 21:28 MKII  fmt: 2008.2.18  int: english/english
 []

 Output written on bibdemo.pdf (2 pages, 42919 bytes).
 Transcript written on bibdemo.log.

 pdftex: Virtual memory exhausted while trying to reserve 8 bytes for table
 ???.
 TeXExec | runtime: 2.828
   ---

 I don't see this on my linux machines with older versions of ConTeXt and
 pdftex.
  Simple LaTeX documents and ConTeXt documents that don't use the bib module
 don't give the error, so it looks like the bib module reveals a bug in
 pdftex-1.40.n,
 for some n larger than 3.
No problems here in a linux box with

ConTeXt  ver: 2007.04.17
pdfTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.40.7


ConTeXt  ver: 2008.01.28 21:28 MKII  fmt: 2008.2.20  int: english/english
pdfTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.40.7


ConTeXt  ver: 2008.01.28 21:28 MKIV  fmt: 2008.2.20  int: english/english
This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.22.0-2008021609
This is build 915, created on 20071128T092554Z
Compiled with libpng 1.2.15; using libpng 1.2.15
Compiled with zlib 1.2.3; using zlib 1.2.3
Compiled with xpdf version 3.01




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[NTG-context] !pdfTeX error: pdftex (file lmmi12): Font lmmi12 at 600 not found

2008-02-07 Thread Mojca Miklavec

Hello,

I don't quite understand why, but my distribution became broken at
some random time point (I do not remember doing anything special in
the meantime). I have installed ConTeXt from scratch, but the same
problem persists:

systems : begin file sqrt at line 1
fonts   : needs map file: original-base
fonts   : needs map file: original-ams-base
fonts   : needs map file: original-public-lm
fonts   : needs map file: lm-ec
fonts   : needs map file: lm-math
fonts   : needs map file: lm-rm
(/context2/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/sort-def.tex
(/context2/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/sort-def.mkii))
(/context2/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/sort-lan.tex
loading : Context Sorting Macros (languages)
(/context2/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/sort-lan.mkii))
[1.1

pdfTeX warning: pdftex (file pdftex.map): cannot open font map file
]
systems : end file sqrt at line 3
system  : cont-err loaded
(/context2/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-err.tex
systems : no file 'cont-sys.tex', using 'cont-sys.rme' instead
) )
!pdfTeX error: pdftex (file lmmi12): Font lmmi12 at 600 not found
 == Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced!
TeXExec | runtime: 0.773438

There is no pdftex.map, but there has never been one. It could be that
I have screwed something up during LM fonts update, but I'm a bit
clueless at the moment. More or less the same files seem to work OK on
windows, the only difference are the binaries.

 kpsewhich lm-math.map
returns
/context2/tex/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/lm/lm-math.map
and there it is
lmmi12   LMMathItalic12-Regularenclmmathit ReEncodeFont
lm-mathit.enc  lmmi12.pfb
as well as
 kpsewhich lmmi12.pfb
/context2/tex/texmf/fonts/type1/public/lm/lmmi12.pfb
and
 kpsewhich lm-mathit.enc
/context2/tex/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/lm/lm-mathit.enc

 pdftex --version
pdfTeX 3.141592-1.50.0-alpha-20071218-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.6)
kpathsea version 3.5.6dev
Copyright 2007 Peter Breitenlohner (eTeX)/Han The Thanh (pdfTeX).
Kpathsea is copyright 2007 Karl Berry and Olaf Weber.
There is NO warranty.  Redistribution of this software is
covered by the terms of both the pdfTeX copyright and
the Lesser GNU General Public License.
For more information about these matters, see the file
named COPYING and the pdfTeX source.
Primary author of pdfTeX: Peter Breitenlohner (eTeX)/Han The Thanh (pdfTeX).
Kpathsea written by Karl Berry, Olaf Weber, and others.

Compiled with libpng 1.2.24; using libpng 1.2.24
Compiled with zlib 1.2.3; using zlib 1.2.3
Compiled with xpdf version 3.02pl2

 kpsewhich --version
kpathsea version 3.5.6
Copyright 2005 Karl Berry  Olaf Weber.
There is NO warranty.  You may redistribute this software
under the terms of the GNU General Public License.
For more information about these matters, see the files named GPL and LGPL.


I have tried both beta and stable ConTeXt, but no difference.
On windows the metafun format fails to generate at some conditions,
but that's a completely unrelated problem (I need to figure out what
goes wrong there).

I could imagine that the problem could be caused by texmf.cnf, but I
didn't change anything there:

TEXFONTMAPS.dvipdfm  = .;$TEXMF/fonts/map/{dvipdfm,dvips,}//
TEXFONTMAPS.dvipdfmx = .;$TEXMF/fonts/map/{dvipdfm,dvips,}//
TEXFONTMAPS.pdftex   = .;$TEXMF/fonts/map/{pdftex,dvips,}//
TEXFONTMAPS.pdfetex  = .;$TEXMF/fonts/map/{pdftex,dvips,}//
TEXFONTMAPS.luatex   = .;$TEXMF/fonts/map/{pdftex,dvips,}//
TEXFONTMAPS.xetex= .;$TEXMF/fonts/map/{xetex,pdftex,dvips,}//
TEXFONTMAPS.dvips= .;$TEXMF/fonts/map/{dvips,pdftex,}//

TEXFONTMAPS   =
.;$TEXMF/fonts/map/{$progname,$engine,pdftex,dvips,}//;$TEXMF/{$progname,$engine,pdftex,dvips}/{config,}//

(Though it makes no sense that xetex reads dvips maps as it cannot
interpret them anyway, and some more polishing could be done, but
that's something completely unrelated again.)

Another thought is that I could have incompatible libraries, but I
didn't change that recently (and it broke two days ago).

I would be greatful for any hints about where to look for a solution,
 Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] !pdfTeX error: pdftex (file lmmi12): Font lmmi12 at 600 not found

2008-02-07 Thread Mojca Miklavec

On Feb 7, 2008 4:02 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
 Mojca Miklavec wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I don't quite understand why, but my distribution became broken at
  some random time point (I do not remember doing anything special in
  the meantime). I have installed ConTeXt from scratch, but the same
  problem persists:

 is your cont-sys.tex  or rme file gone? you need to set things like

 \autoloadmapfilestrue

Arghhh!!!

Please do not ask me how that was possible. I have created
cont-sys.tex and it automagically started to work. When comparing the
logs I have found out the following line:

system  : cont-sys.rme loaded
(./cont-sys.rme)
bodyfont: 12pt rm is loaded

and then discovered that there was a file cont-sys.rme present in the
folder. But I have no idea how it came there nor where it came from as
it's considerably different from the one in distribution:

%D \module
%D   [   file=cont-sys,
%Dversion=1995.10.10,
%D  title=\CONTEXT\ Miscellaneous Macros,
%D   subtitle=System Specific Setups,
%D author=Hans Hagen,
%D   date=\currentdate,
%D  copyright={PRAGMA / Hans Hagen \ Ton Otten}]
%C
%C This module is part of the \CONTEXT\ macro||package and is
%C therefore copyrighted by \PRAGMA. See mreadme.pdf for
%C details.

\unprotect

% Here you can take care of overloading some (style)
% defaults. What goes here, depends on your local system.
%
% The following commands sets the default font encoding:
%
% \setupencoding [\s!default=ec]
%
% You can let \CONTEXT\ load the map files for \PDFTEX.
%
% \autoloadmapfilestrue
%
% If you use the more verbose naming scheme, uncomment this:
%
% \usetypescript [map] [default,\defaultencoding]
%
% or :
%
% \usetypescript [map] [all]
%
% In case you have set psfonts.map already, you can comment
% the following lines. Beware: pdftex uses the fontname
% (second entry on map file lines) for (not so) clever
% remapping, so in case of troubles, remove the names (is

Thanks a lot for the valuable remark,
Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] !pdfTeX error: pdftex (file lmmi12): Font lmmi12 at 600 not found

2008-02-07 Thread Hans Hagen

Mojca Miklavec wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I don't quite understand why, but my distribution became broken at
 some random time point (I do not remember doing anything special in
 the meantime). I have installed ConTeXt from scratch, but the same
 problem persists:

is your cont-sys.tex  or rme file gone? you need to set things like

\autoloadmapfilestrue


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Re: [NTG-context] bib module in pdftex and luatex

2007-12-21 Thread Hans Hagen

Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
 Hi all (esp. Taco ;-),
 
 here's a very fundamental question about the bib-module: my main bib  
 file now has ~ 1,700 entries. When I tried to compile a file which  
 includes bibliographic references in mkii, I got this error:
 
 ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [hash size=6].
 \@@shortsectionnumber ...\c!conversion \endcsname
\relax [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 \ifx  
 \csname \...
 
 \@@longsectionnumber ...\@@shortsectionnumber {#1}
\fi
 \finalsectionnumber ...alue {\@@sectie \c!number }
\fi \fi
 \dodododoconstructhead ...er {\someheadconversion
}\getvalue {\??ko  
 #1\c!inb...
 l.162 \section{Textausgaben}
 
 !  == Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced!
 
 The same file compiles without errors in mkiv. So I'm curious: Is it  
 possible that the bib file is just too large for mkii? Or is it more  
 probable that there's some error in it such as missing crossref etc?  
 Does anyone have experience with large bib files and the bib module?

you can increase the hash size in texmf.cnf ... if so, then also remake 
the format

in mkiv we need less hash space if only because it got rid of encodings 
and regimes

Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] bib module in pdftex and luatex


On Dec 21, 2007, at 1:47 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:

 you can increase the hash size in texmf.cnf ... if so, then also  
 remake
 the format

 in mkiv we need less hash space if only because it got rid of  
 encodings
 and regimes

Indeed, increasing the hash_extra size and rebuilding the formats  
worked. Remarkable that mkiv is already more efficient wrt hash space!

Thanks, and best

Thomas
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[NTG-context] bib module in pdftex and luatex

Hi all (esp. Taco ;-),

here's a very fundamental question about the bib-module: my main bib  
file now has ~ 1,700 entries. When I tried to compile a file which  
includes bibliographic references in mkii, I got this error:

! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [hash size=6].
\@@shortsectionnumber ...\c!conversion \endcsname
   \relax [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
\ifx  
\csname \...

\@@longsectionnumber ...\@@shortsectionnumber {#1}
   \fi
\finalsectionnumber ...alue {\@@sectie \c!number }
   \fi \fi
\dodododoconstructhead ...er {\someheadconversion
   }\getvalue {\??ko  
#1\c!inb...
l.162 \section{Textausgaben}

!  == Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced!

The same file compiles without errors in mkiv. So I'm curious: Is it  
possible that the bib file is just too large for mkii? Or is it more  
probable that there's some error in it such as missing crossref etc?  
Does anyone have experience with large bib files and the bib module?

Thanks, and best wishes

Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] bib module in pdftex and luatex

2007-12-21 Thread Taco Hoekwater



Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
 
 The same file compiles without errors in mkiv. So I'm curious: Is it  
 possible that the bib file is just too large for mkii? 

Just to be complete: In general, the answer to that is yes, even for
mkiv.

Best wishes,
Taco


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Re: [NTG-context] bib module in pdftex and luatex

2007-12-21 Thread Taco Hoekwater



Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
 On Dec 21, 2007, at 2:37 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
 
 Just to be complete: In general, the answer to that is yes, even for
 mkiv.

 Best wishes,
 Taco

 
 Hmm, okay, thanks, Taco. Any rule of thumb for just how big is too big? 

Depends on your texmf.cnf. IIRC, I have twenty or so csnames per
entry, and the baseline for mkii is a bit over 40.000 csnames,
so you need about

40.000 + 20 * (numberofentries)

 And what do people do in cases like this? One of the wonderful  

Increase hash_extra, as Hans said. There is (virtuallly) no limit
to that.

Best wishes,
Taco

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On Dec 21, 2007, at 2:37 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

 Just to be complete: In general, the answer to that is yes, even for
 mkiv.

 Best wishes,
 Taco


Hmm, okay, thanks, Taco. Any rule of thumb for just how big is too  
big? And what do people do in cases like this? One of the wonderful  
things about bibtex for me was that I could build up one big database  
which I could reuse for all my needs.

Best

Thomas
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