[NTG-context] Drawing calligraphy practice grid in metafun
Hello list
I've been working on a little project of mine. I give calligraphy workshops
and I have been using a nice tool created by Josselin Cuette, available at
http://ductus.josselincuette.com/ to generate practice templates for
interested people.
However, I would prefer to have an offline solution. This adventure started
with the usual insidious idea: "I could do this in ConTeXt! And this is a
great opportunity to learn metafun!"
A couple weeks later, I have an almost ready product! It compiles fine, but
I have the following issue: The template creates a Line, composed of
Sections. And uses variables to assign a measurement for the nib-width, and
an amount of ascender, x-height and descender Sections (nib-widths), to
compose a Line.
But also, I would like to, if needed, display nib-width marks on the left
side. My code so far generates marks, but only for the first Line. I think
they are generated but maybe they are placed on top of each other, maybe?
I'm not sure why my logic is not working.
Also, if I change the amount for ascenders, descenders of x-height, the
marks are not drawn correctly.
My current path for a mark is a custom path emulating two unit squares,
nib-width size, on top of each other, with the top one shifted a nib-width
to the right. A little bit like a chess board, or a scale ruler on a map.
But this would only work in Lines that have an even amount of Sections. I'm
not sure how to proceed with that... I tried using unit squares, but that
made things very complex, and after fumbling around I managed to get this
far.
If you can take a look, or have some advice, it would be greatly
appreciated. I hope it is understandable.
My code:
%%
\setuppapersize[letter,landscape][letter,landscape]
\setuplayout[backspace=15mm,width=250mm,header=0mm,footer=0mm]
\startreusableMPgraphic{pauta}
% Global variables:
% Show nib-width marks
boolean marks ; marks := true ;
% Path for nib-width
path mark ; mark := (0,0) -- (1,0) -- (1,2) -- (2,2) -- (2,1) -- (0,1) --
cycle ;
% Line width
numeric line ; line := \the\textwidth ;
% Type box
numeric box ; box := \the\textheight ;
% Nib width (distance between lines)
numeric nib ; nib := 3mm ;
% Ascenders for writing line
numeric asc ; asc := 3 ;
% x-height for writing line
numeric med ; med := 4 ;
% Descenders for writing line
numeric dsc ; dsc := 3 ;
% Total height of a writing line in mm (including asc, med, and dsc)
numeric lineHeight ;
lineHeight = (asc + med + dsc) * nib ;
% Available lines on a page
numeric availableLines ;
availableLines = round(box / lineHeight) - 1 ;
% Starting position
numeric start ; start := 0 ;
% Macros
% Draw a section of a line (ascender, x-height or descender)
vardef Section(expr lines, initial) =
draw (0, initial) -- (line, initial) withpen pencircle scaled 0.2mm ;
for i=0 step 1 until lines :
save final ; final = i*nib ;
pair a; a = (0, final + initial) ;
pair b; b = (line, final + initial) ;
draw a -- b withpen pencircle scaled 0.1mm ;
% If marks=true show nib-width marks
if marks = true:
fill mark scaled nib yshifted (final*2) ;
fi ;
endfor ;
draw (0, final + initial) -- (line, final + initial)
withpen pencircle scaled 0.2mm ;
final + initial
enddef ;
% Draw a line with the three secions (asc, med, dsc)
vardef Line(expr descender, ascender, xheight, initial) =
numeric dd, oo, aa ;
% Líneas
dd = Section(descender, initial) ;
oo = Section(xheight, dd) ;
aa = Section(ascender, oo) ;
% Devolver posicion final con espacio para siguiente renglon
aa + nib*2
enddef ;
% Llenar la página con renglones
for i=1 upto availableLines :
start := Line(dsc, asc, med, start) ;
endfor ;
\stopreusableMPgraphic
\startdocument
\startstandardmakeup
\reuseMPgraphic{pauta}
\stopstandardmakeup
\stopdocument
%%
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[NTG-context] Re: learning about the grid
madiazm.eo...@gmail.com schrieb am 19.11.2023 um 23:17:
Thanks, Pablo and Henning
I suppose I am making a mistake with my setupinterlinearspace. My school asks
for Times New Roman (I use termes) 12pt and onehalfspacing. In latex I used
linespread{1.3} and so I supposed setting ConTeXt with
setupinterlinearspace[1.3ex] was the right way (I read somewhere that vertical
spaces should be measured in ex and horizontal spaces in em; maybe it's not
widely accepted).
I tried setting my interlinearspace to 3ex and it looked much better, but I
must compare it with a onehalfspacing of wordprocessors to be sure it is not
such different.
The unit ex uses the x-height value of the font as dimension, the
x-height is the height of the lowercase x (actually it's a value in the
font which is most cases equal to the height of the lowercase x) as can
be seen in the output of the following example.
\starttext
\heightofstring{x}
\the\exheight
\stoptext
To get one and a half line of interlinespace with ConTeXt you can set a
fixed value with the \setupinterlinespace command.
\setupinterlinespace[line=18pt]
\showgrid
\starttext
\samplefile{lorem}
\stoptext
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[NTG-context] Re: learning about the grid
On 11/19/23 23:17, madiazm.eo...@gmail.com wrote:
> Thanks, Pablo and Henning
>
> I suppose I am making a mistake with my setupinterlinearspace. My
> school asks for Times New Roman (I use termes) 12pt and
> onehalfspacing. In latex I used linespread{1.3} and so I supposed
> setting ConTeXt with setupinterlinearspace[1.3ex] was the right way.
Hi Miguel,
sorry, but I don’t have any idea what \linespread might mean for LaTeX
in plain English.
Some ConTeXt users may also use LaTeX too, but don’t rely on that.
> (I read somewhere that vertical spaces should be measured in ex and
> horizontal spaces in em; maybe it's not widely accepted).
As far as I know, em is defined by the width of the capital 'M' and ex
is defined by the height of the lowercase 'x'.
With your requirements, I think it is easier to set line spacing to one
and a half line with 1.5em, such as in:
\setupbodyfont[termes]
\starttext
\the\exheight\\
\the\dimexpr3\exheight\\
\the\emwidth
\the\dimexpr1.5\emwidth\\
\stoptext
Just in case it might help,
Pablo
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[NTG-context] Re: learning about the grid
Am 19.11.23 um 23:17 schrieb madiazm.eo...@gmail.com:
Thanks, Pablo and Henning
I suppose I am making a mistake with my setupinterlinearspace. My school asks
for Times New Roman (I use termes) 12pt and onehalfspacing. In latex I used
linespread{1.3} and so I supposed setting ConTeXt with
setupinterlinearspace[1.3ex] was the right way (I read somewhere that vertical
spaces should be measured in ex and horizontal spaces in em; maybe it's not
widely accepted).
I tried setting my interlinearspace to 3ex and it looked much better, but I
must compare it with a onehalfspacing of wordprocessors to be sure it is not
such different.
Sorry for not providing an example (again my lack of experience), I will do it
from now on.
thanks, I will try to learn a little more to get an idea of how ConTeXt ist
built
It’s \setupinterlinespace, and the default is 2.8ex, so 1.3ex is too small.
Try to understand https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setupinterlinespace
Hraban
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[NTG-context] Re: learning about the grid
Thanks, Pablo and Henning
I suppose I am making a mistake with my setupinterlinearspace. My school asks
for Times New Roman (I use termes) 12pt and onehalfspacing. In latex I used
linespread{1.3} and so I supposed setting ConTeXt with
setupinterlinearspace[1.3ex] was the right way (I read somewhere that vertical
spaces should be measured in ex and horizontal spaces in em; maybe it's not
widely accepted).
I tried setting my interlinearspace to 3ex and it looked much better, but I
must compare it with a onehalfspacing of wordprocessors to be sure it is not
such different.
Sorry for not providing an example (again my lack of experience), I will do it
from now on.
thanks, I will try to learn a little more to get an idea of how ConTeXt ist
built
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[NTG-context] Re: learning about the grid
Am 19.11.23 um 13:27 schrieb Miguel Diaz: 1. Why are the lines printed one over the other when grid=no? how do profis then use context without grid? That usually only happens in one of the column modes that requires the grid. It doesn’t happen in usual one-column typesetting. There must be something wrong in your setup. Please make a minimal example (MWE). 2. Is there a document where I can read how the grid is conceived to work for the many options in a simple way? AFAIK, the details manual is the only documentation for it. Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Re: learning about the grid
On 11/19/23 13:27, Miguel Diaz wrote:
> [...]
Hi Miguel,
I don’t use the grid. This is also the default in ConTeXt.
I’m not sure whether I’m getting your point here.
See what the difference between not enabling the grid and enabling it:
\showframe\showgrid
\setupwhitespace[medium]
\starttext
\input knuth
\setuplayout[grid=yes]\page
\input knuth
\stoptext
> 1. Why are the lines printed one over the other when grid=no? how do
> profis then use context without grid?
As said, ConTeXt is \setuplayout[grid=no] by default.
As far as I can recall it, the default value is
\setupinterlinespace[line=2.85ex].
I have just discovered that with values such as line=1.3ex,
\setuplayout[grid=yes] behaves very differently than with values such as
line=2ex (and above).
I mean, lines follow the grid when the text fits. See the difference with:
\showframe\showgrid
\setupinterlinespace[line=1.3ex]
\starttext
\dorecurse{25}{asa aeo eau}
\setuplayout[grid=yes]\page
\dorecurse{25}{asa aeo eau}
\stoptext
According to https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Grid_typesetting (feel free
to improve the article), a way of solving this would be to wrap your
stuff inside:
\startlinecorrection
...
\stoplinecorrection
The problem is that your interline space is too small to prevent line
collapsing.
ex is the height of the lowercase 'x'. Are you sure that your school
doesn’t require 1.3em (height of capital 'M') as interline space instead?
You can get yourself the values:
\starttext
\the\exheight\\
%\the \dimexpr1.3\exheight\\
\the\emwidth
\stoptext
The first line will give you 1ex is about 5.7pt (with the default font
used by ConTeXt). 1.3ex would be less than 6.75pt.
The value of 1em is the value of the font size. Default for ConTeXt is
12pt, so 1em has to be 12pt.
I think it is clear now that an interline space of 1.3ex calls for line
overlapping.
That being said, I don’t know why the grid avoids collapsing them (if
the person explicitly asks for this).
> 2. Is there a document where I can read how the grid is conceived to
> work for the many options in a simple way?
See the wiki article above. The mailing list is also a way of getting help.
One suggestion, please always provide a minimal working sample (that can
be copied, pasted and compiled automatically), when you ask for help.
How minimal? Well, they cannot lack essential parts to be compiled.
Other than that, they should only contain required content to reproduce
your issue.
This minimal working sample helps the one who reads to understand what
you are dealing with.
Otherwise, it is really hard to understand which kind of issue you might
be facing (consider that no one else may read your mind or be in front
of your computer).
I hope it might help,
Pablo
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[NTG-context] learning about the grid
Hi everyone, being a newbie I just discovered how different setups for the grid may affect my (very simple) document. In the Details manual (which of course I don't understand because of my unexperience) I read that many people don't use the grid, but when I configure grid=no the whole lines of a section are printed one over the other. Playing with the options and setupinterlinespace I got the unhappily desired 1.3ex that may school requieres for the teaching programs (grid=line, interlinespace=1.3ex), but I somehow feel that's not the right way to go. 1. Why are the lines printed one over the other when grid=no? how do profis then use context without grid? 2. Is there a document where I can read how the grid is conceived to work for the many options in a simple way? thanks in advance ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Chapter number and titles in separate lines with grid layout
I somehow found a way. It doesn't work on my minimal example but it does
in my real doc. I tested a lot of thing but I think it was thanks to the
offset=none parameters
For the record:
###
\define[2]\MySection{
\framed[
location=top,
strut=no,
offset=none,
frame=none,
width=broad,
height=fit,
align=middle]{#1.\\#2}}
\setuphead[section][
conversion=Romannumerals,
style={\bf\kerncharacters[0.075]\WORDS},
align=middle,
command=\MySection,
]
###
Thanks!
Le 15/02/23 à 19:11, Rik Kabel via ntg-context a écrit :
On 2023-02-15 08:44, Alex Leray via ntg-context wrote:
\showframe
\showlayout
\showgrid
\setuplayout[
grid=yes,
]
\define[2]\MySection{\framed[
location=keep,
frame=on,
width=broad,
% height=22pt,
align=middle
]{{#1.\\#2}}}
\setuphead[section][
strut=no,
conversion=Romannumerals,
style={\bf\WORDS},
align=middle,
command=\MySection,
]
\starttext
\startsection[title={First section}]
this is the text
\stopsection
\stoptext
Have you tried it with \framedtext in the place of \framed ?
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Re: [NTG-context] Chapter number and titles in separate lines with grid layout
On 2023-02-15 08:44, Alex Leray via ntg-context wrote:
\showframe
\showlayout
\showgrid
\setuplayout[
grid=yes,
]
\define[2]\MySection{\framed[
location=keep,
frame=on,
width=broad,
% height=22pt,
align=middle
]{{#1.\\#2}}}
\setuphead[section][
strut=no,
conversion=Romannumerals,
style={\bf\WORDS},
align=middle,
command=\MySection,
]
\starttext
\startsection[title={First section}]
this is the text
\stopsection
\stoptext
Have you tried it with \framedtext in the place of \framed ?
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Re: [NTG-context] Chapter number and titles in separate lines with grid layout
On 2023-02-15 08:44, Alex Leray via ntg-context wrote:
\showframe
\showlayout
\showgrid
\setuplayout[
grid=yes,
]
\define[2]\MySection{\framed[
location=keep,
frame=on,
width=broad,
% height=22pt,
align=middle
]{{#1.\\#2}}}
\setuphead[section][
strut=no,
conversion=Romannumerals,
style={\bf\WORDS},
align=middle,
command=\MySection,
]
\starttext
\startsection[title={First section}]
this is the text
\stopsection
\stoptext
Have you tried it with \framedtext in the place of \framed ?
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[NTG-context] Chapter number and titles in separate lines with grid layout
Hello again,
I'm having another issue: I'd like Chapter/Section number and titles in
separate lines but with grid alignement. I followed that advice:
https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Titles#Chapter_number_and_titles_in_separate_lines
I'm having an issue though: I can't get rid of the space above the
(framed) title and align the section number with the first line (it's on
the second line)
Any idea? Many thanks.
###
\showframe
\showlayout
\showgrid
\setuplayout[
grid=yes,
]
\define[2]\MySection{\framed[
location=keep,
frame=on,
width=broad,
% height=22pt,
align=middle
]{{#1.\\#2}}}
\setuphead[section][
strut=no,
conversion=Romannumerals,
style={\bf\WORDS},
align=middle,
command=\MySection,
]
\starttext
\startsection[title={First section}]
this is the text
\stopsection
\stoptext
###
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Re: [NTG-context] floats disturb grid setting
Hi Hraban, > > As soon as I use floats, text isn’t typeset on the grid any more: > > > > > > \setuppaper[A5] > > \setuplayout[grid=yes] > > \showframe\showgrid > > Oops, my bad: It must be "grid=on". > But didn’t work "yes" in earlier versions? I just tested: MkIV MkXL [grid=yes] BrokenBroken [grid=on] BrokenWorks -- Max ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] floats disturb grid setting
Am 03.10.22 um 14:02 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context: As soon as I use floats, text isn’t typeset on the grid any more: \setuppaper[A5] \setuplayout[grid=yes] \showframe\showgrid Oops, my bad: It must be "grid=on". But didn’t work "yes" in earlier versions? Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] floats disturb grid setting
As soon as I use floats, text isn’t typeset on the grid any more:
\setuppaper[A5]
\setuplayout[grid=yes]
\showframe\showgrid
\setupexternalfigure[
location={local,global,default},
]
\starttext
\samplefile{lorem}
\startplacefigure[location=left,title=left]%
\externalfigure[mill][width=.25\textwidth]
\stopplacefigure
\samplefile{lorem}
\startplacefigure[location=bottom,title=bottom]%
\externalfigure[cow][width=.25\textwidth]
\stopplacefigure
\startplacefigure[location=right,title=right]%
\externalfigure[mill][width=.25\textwidth]
\stopplacefigure
\samplefile{lorem}
\startplacefigure[location=left,title=left]%
\externalfigure[mill][width=.25\textwidth]
\stopplacefigure
\samplefile{lorem}
\stoptext
Hraban
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Re: [NTG-context] Offseting the baseline grid, and irregular columnsets
So as I understand there are two grids: The baseline grid, and the main grid. The baseline grid is shifted upward by an amount called depth in order to accommodate descenders. I want to be able to control that parameter. That is the space between the last red line (no 16) and the bottom of the text frame (black line). On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 10:32 PM Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context < ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote: > On Fri, 27 May 2022, Stefan Nedeljkovic via ntg-context wrote: > > > Thanks Rik, that fixed the issue with at which line the text begins, but > I > > still get the grid offset. > > What do you mean by grid offset? > > Aditya > > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___ > ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Offseting the baseline grid, and irregular columnsets
On Fri, 27 May 2022, Stefan Nedeljkovic via ntg-context wrote: > Thanks Rik, that fixed the issue with at which line the text begins, but I > still get the grid offset. What do you mean by grid offset? Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] How to adjust depth (height) when using grid layout
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Re: [NTG-context] Offseting the baseline grid, and irregular columnsets
Thanks Rik, that fixed the issue with at which line the text begins, but I
still get the grid offset.
On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 6:33 PM Rik Kabel via ntg-context <
ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
> You left out the comma after the backspace setting. WIth that in, all is
> well.
> On 2022-05-27 12:03, Stefan Nedeljkovic via ntg-context wrote:
>
> Thank you very much Aditya for looking into this. But I still have the
> same baseline grid offset problem. Interestingly, when I remove the
> columns, the text shifts downwards by two lines.
> My code:
>
> \definemeasure[xheight][0.1in]
>
> \definemeasure[base][3\measured{xheight}]
>
> % Since all distances are in terms of base units, specify the paper size
> in those
>
> % terms as well.
>
> \definepapersize[slide][width=26\measured{base},height=20\measured{base}]
>
> \setuppapersize[slide]
>
> \setupinterlinespace[line=\measure{base}]
>
> \setuplayout
>
> [
>
> topspace=2\measured{base},
>
> header=\zeropoint,
>
> headerdistance=\zeropoint,
>
> height=middle, % Space for 20-4=16 lines
>
> footerdistance=\zeropoint,
>
> footer=\zeropoint,
>
> bottomspace=2\measured{base},
>
> %
>
> cutspace=2\measured{base},
>
> leftmargin=\zeropoint,
>
> leftmargindistance=\zeropoint,
>
> width=middle, % space for 26-4=22 col
>
> rightmargindistance=\zeropoint,
>
> rightmargin=\zeropoint,
>
> backspace=2\measured{base}
>
> grid=yes,
>
> ]
>
> \showframe
>
> \showgrid
>
> \starttext
>
> \input tufte
>
> \stoptext
>
> I'm attaching the pdf output.
>
> On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 5:00 PM Aditya Mahajan wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 25 May 2022, Stefan Nedeljkovic via ntg-context wrote:
>>
>> > Dear list,
>> >
>> > My adventures into the world of grids continue. In the linked file
>> > (slide_grid_overlay.pdf) there are two things I cannot yet achieve:
>> >
>> > 1. I want the baseline grid to evenly (vertically) divide the text
>> > area, but my code produces a smaller height of the first line and an
>> > additional space at the bottom.
>>
>> You did not set footerdistance to zero. So, that takes up some space.
>>
>> > 2. The number of columns is 21.5, that is the first column is 0.5
>> units
>> > wide and the rest are 1 unit wide.
>>
>> I believe that columns has to be an integer. Why do you want fractional
>> columns? Columns are useful because you can say:
>>
>> \setlayer[name][line=2,column=3]{}
>>
>> for absolute positioning of layers. So, you can always use:
>>
>> \setlayer[name][line=2,column=3,x=0.5\measured{base}]{}
>>
>> to move everything to the right by 0.5 units.
>>
>> Another option is not to use columns at all, and simply do:
>>
>> \setlayer[name][line=2,x=3.5\measured{base}]
>>
>> which will place the layer at 3.5 units from the left edge of the text
>> area.
>>
>> > Here is what I got right now:
>>
>> Currently your textwidth is not a multiple of base units. I have tweaked
>> the code below so that it is.
>>
>> \definemeasure[xheight][0.1in]
>> \definemeasure[base][3\measured{xheight}]
>>
>> % Since all distances are in terms of base units, specify the paper size
>> in those
>> % terms as well.
>> \definepapersize[slide][width=26\measured{base},height=20\measured{base}]
>> \setuppapersize[slide]
>>
>> \setupinterlinespace[line=\measure{base}]
>>
>> \setuplayout
>> [
>> topspace=2\measured{base},
>> header=\zeropoint,
>> headerdistance=\zeropoint,
>> height=middle, % Space for 20-4=16 lines
>> footerdistance=\zeropoint,
>> footer=\zeropoint,
>> bottomspace=2\measured{base},
>> %
>> cutspace=2\measured{base},
>> leftmargin=\zeropoint,
>> leftmargindistance=\zeropoint,
>> width=middle, % space for 26-4=22 col
>> rightmargindistance=\zeropoint,
>> rightmargin=\zeropoint,
>> backspace=2\measured{base},
>> %
>> columns=22,
>> columndistance=1pt,
>> %
>> grid=yes,
>> ]
>>
>>
>> \showframe
>> \showgrid
>>
>> \starttext
>> \input tufte
>> \stoptext
>>
>>
>> Aditya
>>
>
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Re: [NTG-context] Offseting the baseline grid, and irregular columnsets
You left out the comma after the backspace setting. WIth that in, all is
well.
On 2022-05-27 12:03, Stefan Nedeljkovic via ntg-context wrote:
Thank you very much Aditya for looking into this. But I still have the
same baseline grid offset problem. Interestingly, when I remove the
columns, the text shifts downwards by two lines.
My code:
\definemeasure[xheight][0.1in]
\definemeasure[base][3\measured{xheight}]
% Since all distances are in terms of base units, specify the paper
size in those
% terms as well.
\definepapersize[slide][width=26\measured{base},height=20\measured{base}]
\setuppapersize[slide]
\setupinterlinespace[line=\measure{base}]
\setuplayout
[
topspace=2\measured{base},
header=\zeropoint,
headerdistance=\zeropoint,
height=middle, % Space for 20-4=16 lines
footerdistance=\zeropoint,
footer=\zeropoint,
bottomspace=2\measured{base},
%
cutspace=2\measured{base},
leftmargin=\zeropoint,
leftmargindistance=\zeropoint,
width=middle, % space for 26-4=22 col
rightmargindistance=\zeropoint,
rightmargin=\zeropoint,
backspace=2\measured{base}
grid=yes,
]
\showframe
\showgrid
\starttext
\input tufte
\stoptext
I'm attaching the pdf output.
On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 5:00 PM Aditya Mahajan wrote:
On Wed, 25 May 2022, Stefan Nedeljkovic via ntg-context wrote:
> Dear list,
>
> My adventures into the world of grids continue. In the linked file
> (slide_grid_overlay.pdf) there are two things I cannot yet achieve:
>
> 1. I want the baseline grid to evenly (vertically) divide
the text
> area, but my code produces a smaller height of the first line and an
> additional space at the bottom.
You did not set footerdistance to zero. So, that takes up some space.
> 2. The number of columns is 21.5, that is the first column
is 0.5 units
> wide and the rest are 1 unit wide.
I believe that columns has to be an integer. Why do you want
fractional columns? Columns are useful because you can say:
\setlayer[name][line=2,column=3]{}
for absolute positioning of layers. So, you can always use:
\setlayer[name][line=2,column=3,x=0.5\measured{base}]{}
to move everything to the right by 0.5 units.
Another option is not to use columns at all, and simply do:
\setlayer[name][line=2,x=3.5\measured{base}]
which will place the layer at 3.5 units from the left edge of the
text area.
> Here is what I got right now:
Currently your textwidth is not a multiple of base units. I have
tweaked the code below so that it is.
\definemeasure[xheight][0.1in]
\definemeasure[base][3\measured{xheight}]
% Since all distances are in terms of base units, specify the
paper size in those
% terms as well.
\definepapersize[slide][width=26\measured{base},height=20\measured{base}]
\setuppapersize[slide]
\setupinterlinespace[line=\measure{base}]
\setuplayout
[
topspace=2\measured{base},
header=\zeropoint,
headerdistance=\zeropoint,
height=middle, % Space for 20-4=16 lines
footerdistance=\zeropoint,
footer=\zeropoint,
bottomspace=2\measured{base},
%
cutspace=2\measured{base},
leftmargin=\zeropoint,
leftmargindistance=\zeropoint,
width=middle, % space for 26-4=22 col
rightmargindistance=\zeropoint,
rightmargin=\zeropoint,
backspace=2\measured{base},
%
columns=22,
columndistance=1pt,
%
grid=yes,
]
\showframe
\showgrid
\starttext
\input tufte
\stoptext
Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] Offseting the baseline grid, and irregular columnsets
Thank you very much Aditya for looking into this. But I still have the same
baseline grid offset problem. Interestingly, when I remove the columns, the
text shifts downwards by two lines.
My code:
\definemeasure[xheight][0.1in]
\definemeasure[base][3\measured{xheight}]
% Since all distances are in terms of base units, specify the paper size in
those
% terms as well.
\definepapersize[slide][width=26\measured{base},height=20\measured{base}]
\setuppapersize[slide]
\setupinterlinespace[line=\measure{base}]
\setuplayout
[
topspace=2\measured{base},
header=\zeropoint,
headerdistance=\zeropoint,
height=middle, % Space for 20-4=16 lines
footerdistance=\zeropoint,
footer=\zeropoint,
bottomspace=2\measured{base},
%
cutspace=2\measured{base},
leftmargin=\zeropoint,
leftmargindistance=\zeropoint,
width=middle, % space for 26-4=22 col
rightmargindistance=\zeropoint,
rightmargin=\zeropoint,
backspace=2\measured{base}
grid=yes,
]
\showframe
\showgrid
\starttext
\input tufte
\stoptext
I'm attaching the pdf output.
On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 5:00 PM Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> On Wed, 25 May 2022, Stefan Nedeljkovic via ntg-context wrote:
>
> > Dear list,
> >
> > My adventures into the world of grids continue. In the linked file
> > (slide_grid_overlay.pdf) there are two things I cannot yet achieve:
> >
> > 1. I want the baseline grid to evenly (vertically) divide the text
> > area, but my code produces a smaller height of the first line and an
> > additional space at the bottom.
>
> You did not set footerdistance to zero. So, that takes up some space.
>
> > 2. The number of columns is 21.5, that is the first column is 0.5
> units
> > wide and the rest are 1 unit wide.
>
> I believe that columns has to be an integer. Why do you want fractional
> columns? Columns are useful because you can say:
>
> \setlayer[name][line=2,column=3]{}
>
> for absolute positioning of layers. So, you can always use:
>
> \setlayer[name][line=2,column=3,x=0.5\measured{base}]{}
>
> to move everything to the right by 0.5 units.
>
> Another option is not to use columns at all, and simply do:
>
> \setlayer[name][line=2,x=3.5\measured{base}]
>
> which will place the layer at 3.5 units from the left edge of the text
> area.
>
> > Here is what I got right now:
>
> Currently your textwidth is not a multiple of base units. I have tweaked
> the code below so that it is.
>
> \definemeasure[xheight][0.1in]
> \definemeasure[base][3\measured{xheight}]
>
> % Since all distances are in terms of base units, specify the paper size
> in those
> % terms as well.
> \definepapersize[slide][width=26\measured{base},height=20\measured{base}]
> \setuppapersize[slide]
>
> \setupinterlinespace[line=\measure{base}]
>
> \setuplayout
> [
> topspace=2\measured{base},
> header=\zeropoint,
> headerdistance=\zeropoint,
> height=middle, % Space for 20-4=16 lines
> footerdistance=\zeropoint,
> footer=\zeropoint,
> bottomspace=2\measured{base},
> %
> cutspace=2\measured{base},
> leftmargin=\zeropoint,
> leftmargindistance=\zeropoint,
> width=middle, % space for 26-4=22 col
> rightmargindistance=\zeropoint,
> rightmargin=\zeropoint,
> backspace=2\measured{base},
> %
> columns=22,
> columndistance=1pt,
> %
> grid=yes,
> ]
>
>
> \showframe
> \showgrid
>
> \starttext
> \input tufte
> \stoptext
>
>
> Aditya
>
slide.pdf
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Re: [NTG-context] Offseting the baseline grid, and irregular columnsets
On Wed, 25 May 2022, Stefan Nedeljkovic via ntg-context wrote:
> Dear list,
>
> My adventures into the world of grids continue. In the linked file
> (slide_grid_overlay.pdf) there are two things I cannot yet achieve:
>
> 1. I want the baseline grid to evenly (vertically) divide the text
> area, but my code produces a smaller height of the first line and an
> additional space at the bottom.
You did not set footerdistance to zero. So, that takes up some space.
> 2. The number of columns is 21.5, that is the first column is 0.5 units
> wide and the rest are 1 unit wide.
I believe that columns has to be an integer. Why do you want fractional
columns? Columns are useful because you can say:
\setlayer[name][line=2,column=3]{}
for absolute positioning of layers. So, you can always use:
\setlayer[name][line=2,column=3,x=0.5\measured{base}]{}
to move everything to the right by 0.5 units.
Another option is not to use columns at all, and simply do:
\setlayer[name][line=2,x=3.5\measured{base}]
which will place the layer at 3.5 units from the left edge of the text area.
> Here is what I got right now:
Currently your textwidth is not a multiple of base units. I have tweaked the
code below so that it is.
\definemeasure[xheight][0.1in]
\definemeasure[base][3\measured{xheight}]
% Since all distances are in terms of base units, specify the paper size in
those
% terms as well.
\definepapersize[slide][width=26\measured{base},height=20\measured{base}]
\setuppapersize[slide]
\setupinterlinespace[line=\measure{base}]
\setuplayout
[
topspace=2\measured{base},
header=\zeropoint,
headerdistance=\zeropoint,
height=middle, % Space for 20-4=16 lines
footerdistance=\zeropoint,
footer=\zeropoint,
bottomspace=2\measured{base},
%
cutspace=2\measured{base},
leftmargin=\zeropoint,
leftmargindistance=\zeropoint,
width=middle, % space for 26-4=22 col
rightmargindistance=\zeropoint,
rightmargin=\zeropoint,
backspace=2\measured{base},
%
columns=22,
columndistance=1pt,
%
grid=yes,
]
\showframe
\showgrid
\starttext
\input tufte
\stoptext
Aditya
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[NTG-context] Offseting the baseline grid, and irregular columnsets
Dear list,
My adventures into the world of grids continue. In the linked file
(slide_grid_overlay.pdf) there are two things I cannot yet achieve:
1. I want the baseline grid to evenly (vertically) divide the text
area, but my code produces a smaller height of the first line and an
additional space at the bottom.
2. The number of columns is 21.5, that is the first column is 0.5 units
wide and the rest are 1 unit wide.
How would I achieve this?
Here is what I got right now:
\definemeasure[xheight][0.1in]
\definemeasure[base][3\measured{xheight}]
\definepapersize[slide][width=80\measured{xheight},height=60\measured{xheight}]
\setuppapersize[slide]
\setupinterlinespace[line=\measure{base},top=1]
\setuplayout[
leftedge=\zeropoint,
rightedge=\measure{zero},
leftedgedistance=\zeropoint,
rightedgedistance=\zeropoint,
leftmargin=\zeropoint,
rightmargin=\zeropoint,
leftmargindistance=\zeropoint,
rightmargindistance=\zeropoint,
width=middle,
cutspace=2\measured{base},
backspace=2\measured{base},
topspace=2\measured{base},
header=\zeropoint,
height=middle,
bottomspace=2\measured{base},
footer=\zeropoint,
grid=yes,
columndistance=1pt,
columns=21.5]
\showframe
\showgrid
\starttext
\input tufte
\stoptext
Link to file:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1KpYbDlukvSCirKkFvJICOX3wABl_83bW?usp=sharing
Sincerely,
Stefan
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Re: [NTG-context] Help needed with slide grid layout
I have problems setting up the grid in question. I cannot seem to configure
the grid spacing properly, despite combing through the "details" manual.
Could you help me configure the grid?
On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 6:24 PM Stefan Nedeljkovic
wrote:
> Thank you very much Wolfgang, that solved the problem.
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 4:01 PM Wolfgang Schuster <
> wolfgang.schuster.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Stefan Nedeljkovic via ntg-context schrieb am 25.05.2022 um 13:35:
>> > Dear list,
>> >
>> > This is a follow-up question on my previous question about Jean-Luc
>> > Doumont and his grid layouts. This time I have concrete questions. I
>> > reverse engineered his slide (slide_grid_overlay.pdf). All his units
>> are
>> > based on inches, because the inch is an integer multiple (72) of the
>> TeX
>> > point. His base unit is 0.1in. I tried implementing the layout first,
>> > but the pdf dimensions do not match the ones I set up. For example the
>> > width should be 8 inches, but the pdf is over 11 inches wide. I wish to
>> > shut off all margins and similar things and only have a text area with
>> > an offset of 0.2in all around the page (see slide_grid_overlay.pdf).
>> > Here is my current attempt:
>>
>> You have to use the \measured (with a trailing s) command when you need
>> multiples of a measure value. When you use something like 2\measure{...}
>> ConTeXt uses the "2" followed by the value of the measure, the following
>> example demonstrates this in the second output.
>>
>> begin example
>> \definemeasure [point] [1pt]
>>
>> \starttext
>>
>> \startbuffer
>> \tex{measure}: \measure{point}
>>
>> \tex{measured}: \the\measured{point}
>> \stopbuffer
>>
>> \typebuffer \getbuffer
>>
>> \startbuffer
>> 2\tex{measure}: 2\measure{point}
>>
>> 2\tex{measured}: \the\dimexpr2\measured{point}\relax
>> \stopbuffer
>>
>> \typebuffer \getbuffer
>>
>> \stoptext
>> end example
>>
>> Wolfgang
>>
>
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Re: [NTG-context] Help needed with slide grid layout
Thank you very much Wolfgang, that solved the problem.
On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 4:01 PM Wolfgang Schuster <
wolfgang.schuster.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Stefan Nedeljkovic via ntg-context schrieb am 25.05.2022 um 13:35:
> > Dear list,
> >
> > This is a follow-up question on my previous question about Jean-Luc
> > Doumont and his grid layouts. This time I have concrete questions. I
> > reverse engineered his slide (slide_grid_overlay.pdf). All his units are
> > based on inches, because the inch is an integer multiple (72) of the TeX
> > point. His base unit is 0.1in. I tried implementing the layout first,
> > but the pdf dimensions do not match the ones I set up. For example the
> > width should be 8 inches, but the pdf is over 11 inches wide. I wish to
> > shut off all margins and similar things and only have a text area with
> > an offset of 0.2in all around the page (see slide_grid_overlay.pdf).
> > Here is my current attempt:
>
> You have to use the \measured (with a trailing s) command when you need
> multiples of a measure value. When you use something like 2\measure{...}
> ConTeXt uses the "2" followed by the value of the measure, the following
> example demonstrates this in the second output.
>
> begin example
> \definemeasure [point] [1pt]
>
> \starttext
>
> \startbuffer
> \tex{measure}: \measure{point}
>
> \tex{measured}: \the\measured{point}
> \stopbuffer
>
> \typebuffer \getbuffer
>
> \startbuffer
> 2\tex{measure}: 2\measure{point}
>
> 2\tex{measured}: \the\dimexpr2\measured{point}\relax
> \stopbuffer
>
> \typebuffer \getbuffer
>
> \stoptext
> end example
>
> Wolfgang
>
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Re: [NTG-context] Help needed with slide grid layout
Stefan Nedeljkovic via ntg-context schrieb am 25.05.2022 um 13:35:
Dear list,
This is a follow-up question on my previous question about Jean-Luc
Doumont and his grid layouts. This time I have concrete questions. I
reverse engineered his slide (slide_grid_overlay.pdf). All his units are
based on inches, because the inch is an integer multiple (72) of the TeX
point. His base unit is 0.1in. I tried implementing the layout first,
but the pdf dimensions do not match the ones I set up. For example the
width should be 8 inches, but the pdf is over 11 inches wide. I wish to
shut off all margins and similar things and only have a text area with
an offset of 0.2in all around the page (see slide_grid_overlay.pdf).
Here is my current attempt:
You have to use the \measured (with a trailing s) command when you need
multiples of a measure value. When you use something like 2\measure{...}
ConTeXt uses the "2" followed by the value of the measure, the following
example demonstrates this in the second output.
begin example
\definemeasure [point] [1pt]
\starttext
\startbuffer
\tex{measure}: \measure{point}
\tex{measured}: \the\measured{point}
\stopbuffer
\typebuffer \getbuffer
\startbuffer
2\tex{measure}: 2\measure{point}
2\tex{measured}: \the\dimexpr2\measured{point}\relax
\stopbuffer
\typebuffer \getbuffer
\stoptext
end example
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Help needed with slide grid layout
Dear list,
This is a follow-up question on my previous question about Jean-Luc Doumont
and his grid layouts. This time I have concrete questions. I reverse
engineered his slide (slide_grid_overlay.pdf). All his units are based on
inches, because the inch is an integer multiple (72) of the TeX point. His
base unit is 0.1in. I tried implementing the layout first, but the pdf
dimensions do not match the ones I set up. For example the width should be
8 inches, but the pdf is over 11 inches wide. I wish to shut off all
margins and similar things and only have a text area with an offset of
0.2in all around the page (see slide_grid_overlay.pdf). Here is my current
attempt:
%\input fonts
\definemeasure[base][0.1in]
\definemeasure[zero][0in]
\definepapersize[slide][width=80\measure{base},height=60\measure{base}]
\setuppapersize[slide]
\setuplayout[
leftedge=\measure{zero},
rightedge=\measure{zero},
leftedgedistance=\measure{zero},
rightedgedistance=\measure{zero},
leftmargin=\measure{zero},
rightmargin=\measure{zero},
leftmargindistance=\measure{zero},
rightmargindistance=\measure{zero},
width=middle,
cutspace=2\measure{base},
backspace=2\measure{base},
topspace=2\measure{base},
header=\measure{zero},
height=middle,
bottomspace=2\measure{base},
footer=\measure{zero}]
%\usetypescript[ibmplex][uc]
%\setupbodyfont[ibmplex,rm,9pt]
\starttext
\showlayout
\stoptext
Link to files:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1KpYbDlukvSCirKkFvJICOX3wABl_83bW?usp=sharing
Kind regards,
Stefan
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[NTG-context] space before section titles sometimes disappears in grid mode
E.g. in CG journal, there are usually 3 blank lines before a section title.
Most of it is single column and without grid, no problem there. But some
articles use columnsets and are therefore in grid mode.
Sometimes the space before the section title disappears completely, so that it
is glued to the previous paragraph.
If I include \startlinecorrection in "before" of \setuphead[section], in front
of the \blank, the space is only reduced by 1 line, but I get the space also at
the top of a column (or at the start of the article).
If I put \startlinecorrection after \blank, the space disappears the same as
without linecorrection.
\setuphead[section]
[before={\startlinecorrection\blank[BigCGblank]},
after={\stoplinecorrection\blank[CGblank]},
grid=both,
]
It happens reproducably if there is a float before \startsection, but sometimes
I can’t find a reason.
In the other magazine I’m typesetting ATM, I get the same problem. No
columnsets involved in that case, but still in grid mode.
There I can "fix" it with some \blank[3*line], but it doesn’t help in the
floats case.
Hraban
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Re: [NTG-context] First line of larger font paragraph on grid
Ok, I've now tried to adapt my real document to this (see below). But I'm
running into some problems:
1. I'm not sure whether to use \setuplocalinterlinespace or
\setupinterlinespace. With \setuphead, \setuplocalinterlinespace works, but it
doesn't work with \framed... But even with \setuphead it leads to results I
didn't expect: \blank[force,3*line,depth] -> four empty lines instead of three.
2. foregroundstyle={\bfe\setupinterlinespace[line=17.5pt]} works sort of with
the default fonts, i.e. the visuals are ok, but with \showstruts enabled, you
see that the struts are incorrect. Now, with the font I have to use (Noto Serif
Semicondensed ExtraBold at 15pt, with linespacing 17.5pt, available at
http://www.google.com/get/noto/#serif-lgc) this shows up even visually: The
letters are placed a tiny bit below the baseline.
Any ideas? Hints?
TIA,
Denis
%-
\setuplayout[grid=yes]
\showgrid
\showstruts
\definefont [BigFont] [Bold at 20pt] [28pt]
\definefontsize[e] % < added
\definebodyfontenvironment [12pt] [e=20pt] % < added
\definebodyfontenvironment [10pt] [e=15pt] % < added dm
\definebodyfontenvironment [10pt] [interlinespace=14pt] % < added dm
%\definefontfamily[mainface][rm][Noto Serif]
% [tf=file:NotoSerif-SemiCondensed.ttf] % < added dm
\setupbodyfont[mainface,10pt] % < added dm
\unprotect
\unexpanded\def\section_command#1#2{%
\framed [
width=\textwidth,
frame=off,
rulethickness=0pt,
offset=0pt,
loffset=-0pt,
before=,
location=top,
align=flushleft,]{#2}%
}
\setuphead [section] [
style=\bfe,
%style={\bfe\setupinterlinespace[line=17.5pt]},
style={\bfe\setuplocalinterlinespace[line=17.5pt]},
after=,
before=,
command=\section_command,
]
\protect
\defineframed[myframed][
width=\textwidth,
frame=off,
rulethickness=0pt,
offset=0pt,
loffset=-0pt,
foregroundstyle=\bfe,% < added
foregroundstyle={\bfe\setupinterlinespace[line=17.5pt]},
% < dm, added; does work partially; struts are incorrect
foregroundstyle={\bfe\setuplocalinterlinespace[line=17.5pt]},
% < dm, added; does not work
strut=yes, % < added
before=,
location=top,
align=flushleft,]
\starttext
\blank[force,3*line,depth]
\myframed{Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet consectetur adipisicing elit Lorem ipsum
dolor sit amet consectetur adipisicing elit}
asdfasdf
\page
\blank[force,3*line,depth]
\startsection [title=Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet consectetur adipisicing elit
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet consectetur adipisicing elit]
asdf
\stopsection
\stoptext%-
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: ntg-context Im Auftrag von
> denis.ma...@unibe.ch
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 27. Juni 2021 16:57
> An: ntg-context@ntg.nl
> Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] First line of larger font paragraph on grid
>
> Thanks, Garulfo. I don't use \definedfont in my real document so I should be
> able to port it to my use case. And now I've learned about foregroundstyle. (I
> was already a bit perplexed that \framed has no style key.)
>
> Just out of curiousity, perhaps someone (Hans? Wolfgang?) knows more about
> the underlying issue?
>
> Denis
>
> > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > Von: ntg-context Im Auftrag von Garulfo
> > Gesendet: Samstag, 26. Juni 2021 12:37
> > An: ntg-context@ntg.nl
> > Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] First line of larger font paragraph on grid
> >
> > To have the two pages similar
> >
> > There is something linked with the use of \definefont.
> > Don't know if it properly impacts the interlinespace for example.
> >
> > %--
> >
> > \setuplayout[grid=yes]
> > \showgrid
> >
> > \definefont [BigFont] [Bold at 20pt] [28pt]
> >
> > \definefontsize[e] % < added
> > \definebodyfontenvironment [12pt] [e=20pt] % < added
> >
> > \unprotect
> > \unexpanded\def\section_command#1#2{%
> >\framed [
> > width=\textwidth,
> > frame=off,
> > rulethickness=0pt,
> > offset=0pt,
> > loffset=-0pt,
> > before=,
> > location=top,
>
Re: [NTG-context] First line of larger font paragraph on grid
Thanks, Garulfo. I don't use \definedfont in my real document so I should be
able to port it to my use case. And now I've learned about foregroundstyle. (I
was already a bit perplexed that \framed has no style key.)
Just out of curiousity, perhaps someone (Hans? Wolfgang?) knows more about the
underlying issue?
Denis
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: ntg-context Im Auftrag von Garulfo
> Gesendet: Samstag, 26. Juni 2021 12:37
> An: ntg-context@ntg.nl
> Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] First line of larger font paragraph on grid
>
> To have the two pages similar
>
> There is something linked with the use of \definefont.
> Don't know if it properly impacts the interlinespace for example.
>
> %--
>
> \setuplayout[grid=yes]
> \showgrid
>
> \definefont [BigFont] [Bold at 20pt] [28pt]
>
> \definefontsize[e] % < added
> \definebodyfontenvironment [12pt] [e=20pt] % < added
>
> \unprotect
> \unexpanded\def\section_command#1#2{%
>\framed [
> width=\textwidth,
> frame=off,
> rulethickness=0pt,
> offset=0pt,
> loffset=-0pt,
> before=,
> location=top,
> align=flushleft,]{#2}%
> }
>
>
> \setuphead [section] [
> style=\bfe,
> after=,
> before={\blank[1*line]},
>command=\section_command,
> ]
> \protect
>
>
> \defineframed[myframed][
> width=\textwidth,
> frame=off,
> rulethickness=0pt,
> offset=0pt,
> loffset=-0pt,
> foregroundstyle=\bfe,% < added
> strut=yes, % < added
> before=,
> location=top,
> align=flushleft,]% < removed dup "]"
>
> \starttext
>
> \blank[force,3*line,depth]
>
> %\begingroup% < removed
> %\BigFont % < removed
> \myframed{Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet consectetur adipisicing elit Lorem
> ipsum dolor sit amet consectetur adipisicing elit}
> %\endgroup % < removed
>
> asdfasdf
>
> \page
> \blank[force,3*line,depth]
>
> \startsection [title=Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet consectetur adipisicing elit
> Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet consectetur adipisicing elit]
>asdf
> \stopsection
>
> \stoptext
>
> %--
>
>
> Le 25/06/2021 à 12:30, denis.ma...@unibe.ch a écrit :
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have some text in a larger font where the first line should be on
> > the grid. Therefore, I’ve tried to adapt the solution from the wiki:
> > https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Grid_typesetting#Placing_titles_on_the_
> > grid
> > <https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Grid_typesetting#Placing_titles_on_the
> > _grid>
> >
> > The interesting thing is that the section command indeed places the
> > first line on the grid, but using \framed directly does not give the
> > desired results.
> >
> > I must be missing something obvious. Does anyone know a solution ?
> >
> > Thanks for your help,
> >
> > Denis
> >
> > ===
> >
> > \setuplayout[grid=yes]
> >
> > \showgrid
> >
> > \definefont [BigFont] [Bold at 20pt] [24pt]
> >
> > \unprotect
> >
> > \unexpanded\def\section_command#1#2{%
> >
> > \framed [
> >
> > width=\textwidth,
> >
> > frame=off,
> >
> > rulethickness=0pt,
> >
> > offset=0pt,
> >
> > loffset=-0pt,
> >
> > before=,
> >
> > location=top,
> >
> > align=flushleft,]{#2}%
> >
> > }
> >
> > \setuphead [section] [
> >
> > style={\BigFont},
> >
> > after=,
> >
> > before={\blank[1*line]},
> >
> > command=\section_command,
> >
> > ]
> >
> > \protect
> >
> > \defineframed[myframed][
> >
> > width=\textwidth,
> >
> > frame=off,
> >
> > rulethickness=0pt,
> >
> > offset=0pt,
> >
> > loffset=-0pt,
> >
> > before=,
> >
> > location
Re: [NTG-context] First line of larger font paragraph on grid
To have the two pages similar
There is something linked with the use of \definefont.
Don't know if it properly impacts the interlinespace for example.
%--
\setuplayout[grid=yes]
\showgrid
\definefont [BigFont] [Bold at 20pt] [28pt]
\definefontsize[e] % < added
\definebodyfontenvironment [12pt] [e=20pt] % < added
\unprotect
\unexpanded\def\section_command#1#2{%
\framed [
width=\textwidth,
frame=off,
rulethickness=0pt,
offset=0pt,
loffset=-0pt,
before=,
location=top,
align=flushleft,]{#2}%
}
\setuphead [section] [
style=\bfe,
after=,
before={\blank[1*line]},
command=\section_command,
]
\protect
\defineframed[myframed][
width=\textwidth,
frame=off,
rulethickness=0pt,
offset=0pt,
loffset=-0pt,
foregroundstyle=\bfe,% < added
strut=yes, % < added
before=,
location=top,
align=flushleft,]% < removed dup "]"
\starttext
\blank[force,3*line,depth]
%\begingroup% < removed
%\BigFont % < removed
\myframed{Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet consectetur adipisicing elit Lorem
ipsum dolor sit amet consectetur adipisicing elit}
%\endgroup % < removed
asdfasdf
\page
\blank[force,3*line,depth]
\startsection [title=Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet consectetur adipisicing
elit Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet consectetur adipisicing elit]
asdf
\stopsection
\stoptext
%--
Le 25/06/2021 à 12:30, denis.ma...@unibe.ch a écrit :
Hi,
I have some text in a larger font where the first line should be on the
grid. Therefore, I’ve tried to adapt the solution from the wiki:
https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Grid_typesetting#Placing_titles_on_the_grid
<https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Grid_typesetting#Placing_titles_on_the_grid>
The interesting thing is that the section command indeed places the
first line on the grid, but using \framed directly does not give the
desired results.
I must be missing something obvious. Does anyone know a solution ?
Thanks for your help,
Denis
===
\setuplayout[grid=yes]
\showgrid
\definefont [BigFont] [Bold at 20pt] [24pt]
\unprotect
\unexpanded\def\section_command#1#2{%
\framed [
width=\textwidth,
frame=off,
rulethickness=0pt,
offset=0pt,
loffset=-0pt,
before=,
location=top,
align=flushleft,]{#2}%
}
\setuphead [section] [
style={\BigFont},
after=,
before={\blank[1*line]},
command=\section_command,
]
\protect
\defineframed[myframed][
width=\textwidth,
frame=off,
rulethickness=0pt,
offset=0pt,
loffset=-0pt,
before=,
location=top,
align=flushleft,]]
\starttext
\blank[force,3*line,depth]
\begingroup
\BigFont
\myframed{Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet consectetur adipisicing elit Lorem
ipsum dolor sit amet consectetur adipisicing elit}
\endgroup
asdfasdf
\page
\blank[force,3*line,depth]
\startsection [title=Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet consectetur adipisicing
elit Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet consectetur adipisicing elit]
asdf
\stopsection
\stoptext
=
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Re: [NTG-context] First line of larger font paragraph on grid
A proposal
===
\setuplayout[grid=yes]
\showgrid
\definefont [BigFont] [Bold at 20pt] [28pt]
\unprotect
\unexpanded\def\section_command#1#2{%
\framed [
width=\textwidth,
frame=off,
rulethickness=0pt,
offset=0pt,
loffset=-0pt,
before=,
location=top,
align=flushleft,]{#2}%
}
\setuphead [section] [
style={\BigFont},
after=,
before={\blank[1*line]},
command=\section_command,
]
\protect
\definefontsize[e] % < added
\definebodyfontenvironment [12pt] [e=20pt] % < added
\defineframed[myframed][
width=\textwidth,
frame=off,
rulethickness=0pt,
offset=0pt,
loffset=-0pt,
foregroundstyle=\bfe,% < added
strut=yes, % < added
before=,
location=top,
align=flushleft,]% < removed dupl "]"
\starttext
\blank[force,3*line,depth]
%\begingroup% < removed
%\BigFont % < removed
\myframed{Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet consectetur adipisicing elit Lorem
ipsum dolor sit amet consectetur adipisicing elit}
%\endgroup % < removed
asdfasdf
\page
\blank[force,3*line,depth]
\startsection [title=Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet consectetur adipisicing
elit Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet consectetur adipisicing elit]
asdf
\stopsection
\stoptext
Le 25/06/2021 à 12:30, denis.ma...@unibe.ch a écrit :
Hi,
I have some text in a larger font where the first line should be on the
grid. Therefore, I’ve tried to adapt the solution from the wiki:
https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Grid_typesetting#Placing_titles_on_the_grid
<https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Grid_typesetting#Placing_titles_on_the_grid>
The interesting thing is that the section command indeed places the
first line on the grid, but using \framed directly does not give the
desired results.
I must be missing something obvious. Does anyone know a solution ?
Thanks for your help,
Denis
===
\setuplayout[grid=yes]
\showgrid
\definefont [BigFont] [Bold at 20pt] [24pt]
\unprotect
\unexpanded\def\section_command#1#2{%
\framed [
width=\textwidth,
frame=off,
rulethickness=0pt,
offset=0pt,
loffset=-0pt,
before=,
location=top,
align=flushleft,]{#2}%
}
\setuphead [section] [
style={\BigFont},
after=,
before={\blank[1*line]},
command=\section_command,
]
\protect
\defineframed[myframed][
width=\textwidth,
frame=off,
rulethickness=0pt,
offset=0pt,
loffset=-0pt,
before=,
location=top,
align=flushleft,]]
\starttext
\blank[force,3*line,depth]
\begingroup
\BigFont
\myframed{Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet consectetur adipisicing elit Lorem
ipsum dolor sit amet consectetur adipisicing elit}
\endgroup
asdfasdf
\page
\blank[force,3*line,depth]
\startsection [title=Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet consectetur adipisicing
elit Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet consectetur adipisicing elit]
asdf
\stopsection
\stoptext
=
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[NTG-context] First line of larger font paragraph on grid
Hi,
I have some text in a larger font where the first line should be on the grid.
Therefore, I've tried to adapt the solution from the wiki:
https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Grid_typesetting#Placing_titles_on_the_grid
The interesting thing is that the section command indeed places the first line
on the grid, but using \framed directly does not give the desired results.
I must be missing something obvious. Does anyone know a solution ?
Thanks for your help,
Denis
===
\setuplayout[grid=yes]
\showgrid
\definefont [BigFont] [Bold at 20pt] [24pt]
\unprotect
\unexpanded\def\section_command#1#2{%
\framed [
width=\textwidth,
frame=off,
rulethickness=0pt,
offset=0pt,
loffset=-0pt,
before=,
location=top,
align=flushleft,]{#2}%
}
\setuphead [section] [
style={\BigFont},
after=,
before={\blank[1*line]},
command=\section_command,
]
\protect
\defineframed[myframed][
width=\textwidth,
frame=off,
rulethickness=0pt,
offset=0pt,
loffset=-0pt,
before=,
location=top,
align=flushleft,]]
\starttext
\blank[force,3*line,depth]
\begingroup
\BigFont
\myframed{Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet consectetur adipisicing elit Lorem ipsum
dolor sit amet consectetur adipisicing elit}
\endgroup
asdfasdf
\page
\blank[force,3*line,depth]
\startsection [title=Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet consectetur adipisicing elit
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet consectetur adipisicing elit]
asdf
\stopsection
\stoptext
=
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Re: [NTG-context] Adjust Grid to last line textheight
I've tried adjusting interlinespacing, but it seems to make no difference :
==
\setupinterlinespace[
height=.72,
depth=.28,
top=2,
%top=0,
%top=5,
%top=1,
bottom=0,
%bottom=0.4,
%bottom=0,
%bottom=1,
%bottom=5,
line=2.8ex,
]
\setuplayout[grid=yes]
\showgrid
\starttext
\dorecurse{5}{\input knuth\par}
\stoptext
==
Even extreme values for top and bottom (e.g. 0 or 10) seem to make no
difference at all.
What am I missing? Is that even the right place to make that adjustment ?
Denis
Von: ntg-context Im Auftrag von
denis.ma...@unibe.ch
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 23. Juni 2021 11:47
An: ntg-context@ntg.nl
Betreff: [NTG-context] WG: Adjust Grid to last line textheight
Hi,
I have to use grid typesetting and the grid has to be aligned to the last line
of textheight. I have to replicate a layout made with Indesign where there
seems to be a bit of additional spacing before the first line, whereas in
ConTeXt that happens to be after the last line of the page (see attachment).
Is that possible?
I have already found the various grid snapping methods, but they seem to change
how content is placed on the grid, not the placement of the grid itself.
===
\setuplayout[grid=yes]
\showgrid
\starttext
\input knuth
\stoptext
===
Best,
Denis
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[NTG-context] WG: Adjust Grid to last line textheight
Hi, I have to use grid typesetting and the grid has to be aligned to the last line of textheight. I have to replicate a layout made with Indesign where there seems to be a bit of additional spacing before the first line, whereas in ConTeXt that happens to be after the last line of the page (see attachment). Is that possible? I have already found the various grid snapping methods, but they seem to change how content is placed on the grid, not the placement of the grid itself. === \setuplayout[grid=yes] \showgrid \starttext \input knuth \stoptext === Best, Denis ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Grid typesetting, blockquotes in smaller font across pagebreaks
Hi,
I'm playing around with grid typesetting. Consider the following example:
--
\setuppapersize[A5][A5]
\setupbodyfont[10pt]
\setuplayout[grid=yes]
\showgrid
\setupdelimitedtext[blockquote]
[
style=\tfx,
%style=\tfx\setupinterlinespace, % this breaks grid snapping
spacebefore=halfline,
indentnext=no,
leftmargin=no,
rightmargin=no,
]
\starttext
\dorecurse{5}{
\dorecurse{5}{Some text on a grid. }
\startblockquote
\dorecurse{10}{A quotation in a smaller font. }
\stopblockquote
\dorecurse{5}{This should be on the grid again. }}
\stoptext
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With style=\tfx it kind of works as long as the quotations don't run over page
boundaries. With style=\tfx\setupinterlinespace paragraphs after quotations
don't snap back to the grid.
Spacebefore=line is somewhat better, but also only if I use \tfx without
\setupinterlinespace.
Any hints?
(But maybe I'm approaching the problem from the wrong direction anyway... I
need the have pages end consistently at the same baseline, and I thought grid
typesetting might be an option here. But maybe that was a wrong assumption in
the first place... Or there are better solutions.)
Best,
Denis
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Re: [NTG-context] RE : RE : RE : RE : Issue with grid
On 11/25/2020 6:10 PM, Joseph wrote: \setupindenting[yes, next, 1em] \starttext \input knuth \stoptext hm, maybe i did somethign wrong. i'll check it, but indeed for now you can just use the patch Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] RE : RE : RE : RE : Issue with grid
Thanks for the fix in today upload. Unfortunately the issue with paragraph indentation seems to be back (first paragraph is indented but given ‘next’ is given, it should not, or at least was not before) \setupindenting[yes, next, 1em]\starttext\input knuth\stoptext Do we still need to add the correction code Hans given earlier to workaround this ?Best De : JosephEnvoyé le :lundi 23 novembre 2020 16:29À : Hans Hagen; mailing list for ConTeXt usersObjet :[NTG-context] RE : RE : RE : Issue with grid Could reproduce this problem with ‘default’ font and even seeing it cumulating in same page. BTW, Perhaps you already fixed it locally. \showgrid\setuplayout[grid=both] \starttext\dorecurse{8}{\blank[line]Fin des psalmes.\blank[line]\input knuth }\stoptext De : Hans HagenEnvoyé le :lundi 23 novembre 2020 13:19À : Joseph; mailing list for ConTeXt usersObjet :Re: RE : RE : [NTG-context] Issue with grid On 11/23/2020 11:13 AM, Joseph wrote:> Yes, I refer to text not being aligned on the grid. This only happens if > \blank is used it seems, and text sits above where it’s supposed to (ie > amount of space being skipped vertically is smaller, ie \blank[line] > skips less than 1 line). I attach pdf I get. Could reduce MWE a bit.> > \showgrid> > \setuplayout[grid=both]> > \definefontfamily[mainfont][serif][EBGaramond][features=default]> > \setupbodyfont[mainfont, 9pt]> > \starttext> > \blank[line]Fin des psalmes.> > \blank[line]Fin des psalmes.> > \dorecurse{8}{\input knuth> > }> > \stoptextIt looks ok here< I also checked the latest eb (less fonts now it seems). Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl-
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Re: [NTG-context] RE : RE : RE : Issue with grid
On 11/23/20 4:29 PM, Joseph wrote:
> Could reproduce this problem with ‘default’ font and even seeing it
> cumulating in same page. BTW, Perhaps you already fixed it locally.
Hi Joseph,
probably the approach has to be different.
Setting the whitespace to line fixes everything:
\startsetups[*lessstrict]
\widowpenalty=1000
\clubpenalty=1000
\brokenpenalty=1000
\stopsetups
\setuplayout[setups={*lessstrict}, grid=both]
\showgrid
\setupwhitespace[line]
\starttext
\dorecurse{8}
{\blank[line]Fin des psalmes.\par
\blank[line]\input knuth\par}
\stoptext
Just in case it helps,
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[NTG-context] RE : RE : RE : Issue with grid
Could reproduce this problem with ‘default’ font and even seeing it cumulating in same page. BTW, Perhaps you already fixed it locally. \showgrid\setuplayout[grid=both] \starttext\dorecurse{8}{\blank[line]Fin des psalmes.\blank[line]\input knuth }\stoptext De : Hans HagenEnvoyé le :lundi 23 novembre 2020 13:19À : Joseph; mailing list for ConTeXt usersObjet :Re: RE : RE : [NTG-context] Issue with grid On 11/23/2020 11:13 AM, Joseph wrote:> Yes, I refer to text not being aligned on the grid. This only happens if > \blank is used it seems, and text sits above where it’s supposed to (ie > amount of space being skipped vertically is smaller, ie \blank[line] > skips less than 1 line). I attach pdf I get. Could reduce MWE a bit.> > \showgrid> > \setuplayout[grid=both]> > \definefontfamily[mainfont][serif][EBGaramond][features=default]> > \setupbodyfont[mainfont, 9pt]> > \starttext> > \blank[line]Fin des psalmes.> > \blank[line]Fin des psalmes.> > \dorecurse{8}{\input knuth> > }> > \stoptextIt looks ok here< I also checked the latest eb (less fonts now it seems). Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl-
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Re: [NTG-context] RE : RE : Issue with grid
On 11/23/2020 11:13 AM, Joseph wrote:
Yes, I refer to text not being aligned on the grid. This only happens if
\blank is used it seems, and text sits above where it’s supposed to (ie
amount of space being skipped vertically is smaller, ie \blank[line]
skips less than 1 line). I attach pdf I get. Could reduce MWE a bit.
\showgrid
\setuplayout[grid=both]
\definefontfamily[mainfont][serif][EBGaramond][features=default]
\setupbodyfont[mainfont, 9pt]
\starttext
\blank[line]Fin des psalmes.
\blank[line]Fin des psalmes.
\dorecurse{8}{\input knuth
}
\stoptext
It looks ok here< I also checked the latest eb (less fonts now it seems).
Hans
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[NTG-context] RE : RE : Issue with grid
Yes, I refer to text not being aligned on the grid. This only happens if \blank is used it seems, and text sits above where it’s supposed to (ie amount of space being skipped vertically is smaller, ie \blank[line] skips less than 1 line). I attach pdf I get. Could reduce MWE a bit. \showgrid\setuplayout[grid=both] \definefontfamily[mainfont][serif][EBGaramond][features=default]\setupbodyfont[mainfont, 9pt] \starttext \blank[line]Fin des psalmes. \blank[line]Fin des psalmes. \dorecurse{8}{\input knuth } \stoptext De : Hans HagenEnvoyé le :lundi 23 novembre 2020 10:54À : Joseph; mailing list for ConTeXt usersObjet :Re: RE : [NTG-context] Issue with grid On 11/23/2020 9:31 AM, Joseph wrote:> I don’t understand the answer I am afraid, I’ve never seen any issue > with grid alignment before (I don’t use columns either, and I changed > nothing at all).you talk about grid alignment i.e. text not sitting on the grid .. this is something that relates to font and line distance properties if on th eother hand you talk about when a pag ebreak occurs pablos answer points to the solution Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl-
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Re: [NTG-context] RE : Issue with grid
On 11/23/2020 9:31 AM, Joseph wrote: I don’t understand the answer I am afraid, I’ve never seen any issue with grid alignment before (I don’t use columns either, and I changed nothing at all). you talk about grid alignment i.e. text not sitting on the grid ... this is something that relates to font and line distance properties if on th eother hand you talk about when a pag ebreak occurs pablos answer points to the solution Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] RE : Issue with grid
I don’t understand the answer I am afraid, I’ve never seen any issue with grid alignment before (I don’t use columns either, and I changed nothing at all). De : Hans HagenEnvoyé le :lundi 23 novembre 2020 00:05À : mailing list for ConTeXt users; JosephObjet :Re: [NTG-context] Issue with grid On 11/22/2020 5:03 PM, Joseph wrote:> Dear list,> > In some cases with latest LMTX I see text not aligned to grid. MWE > reproduces the problem (could not reproduce with default font).> > Typesetting MWE using online ConTeXt page shows correctly aligned text > on grid.> > \showgrid> > \setuplayout[grid=both]> > \definefontfeature[base][mode=node]> > \definefontfamily[mainfont][serif][EBGaramond][features=base]> > \setupbodyfont[mainfont, 9pt]> > \starttext> > \blank[line, samepage]Fin des psalmes.> > \blank[line, samepage]Fin des psalmes.> > \dorecurse{8}{\input knuth> > }> > \stoptext> > If number of itérations is changed from 8 to 7) problem does not appear, > seems to be linked to the fact page is fully filled with lines.> > If one of the \blank lines is commented out problem does not occur either. It might have to do with the fact that the height/depth ratio that is used doesn't match well with the ascenders/descenders of the font that you use. The defaults are: \setupinterlinespace [height=.72, depth=.28, line=2.8\exheight] so you can play with these. The 72:28 ratio works ok for most fonts but sometimes need to be adapted. Sometimes the 2.8 is not enough. (makes me wonder: i can issue a warning when a font can overrun) (normally grid snapping should catch is but columns are kind of different) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl-
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Re: [NTG-context] Issue with grid
On 11/22/2020 5:03 PM, Joseph wrote: \definefontfeature[base][mode=node] \definefontfamily[mainfont][serif][EBGaramond][features=base] Really? No features enabled at all? EBGaramond is quite loaded with features. Just use 'default'. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Issue with grid
On 11/22/2020 5:03 PM, Joseph wrote:
Dear list,
In some cases with latest LMTX I see text not aligned to grid. MWE
reproduces the problem (could not reproduce with default font).
Typesetting MWE using online ConTeXt page shows correctly aligned text
on grid.
\showgrid
\setuplayout[grid=both]
\definefontfeature[base][mode=node]
\definefontfamily[mainfont][serif][EBGaramond][features=base]
\setupbodyfont[mainfont, 9pt]
\starttext
\blank[line, samepage]Fin des psalmes.
\blank[line, samepage]Fin des psalmes.
\dorecurse{8}{\input knuth
}
\stoptext
If number of itérations is changed from 8 to 7) problem does not appear,
seems to be linked to the fact page is fully filled with lines.
If one of the \blank lines is commented out problem does not occur either.
It might have to do with the fact that the height/depth ratio that is
used doesn't match well with the ascenders/descenders of the font that
you use. The defaults are:
\setupinterlinespace
[height=.72,
depth=.28,
line=2.8\exheight]
so you can play with these. The 72:28 ratio works ok for most fonts but
sometimes need to be adapted. Sometimes the 2.8 is not enough.
(makes me wonder: i can issue a warning when a font can overrun)
(normally grid snapping should catch is but columns are kind of different)
Hans
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[NTG-context] RE : Issue with grid
Hi Pablo,Thanks for the heads up. Good to know issue is known already, of course I’ll wait for eventual fix.Best regardsJoseph De : Pablo RodriguezEnvoyé le :dimanche 22 novembre 2020 18:54À : ntg-context@ntg.nlObjet :Re: [NTG-context] Issue with grid On 11/22/20 5:03 PM, Joseph wrote:> Dear list,> > In some cases with latest LMTX I see text not aligned to grid. MWE> reproduces the problem (could not reproduce with default font). Hi Joseph, I think this is related to the fact that your paragraphs are hard tobreak between pages, since they only contain two lines. I think this paragraph break among pages is what triggers the issue youmention. > Typesetting MWE using online ConTeXt page shows correctly aligned text> on grid. https://live.contextgarden.net/ includes both LuaTeX 2.06 20200630 +ConTeXt MkIV 2020.06.30 17:30. > If number of itérations is changed from 8 to 7) problem does not appear,> seems to be linked to the fact page is fully filled with lines. Because the text fits in a single page. > If one of the \blank lines is commented out problem does not occur either. Because you avoid the problem of breaking the paragraph between pages. You can also avoid that using the following (but it will work only withyour MWE, I know): \setuplayout[setups=*lessstrict] \startsetups[*lessstrict] \widowpenalty=1000 \clubpenalty=1000 \brokenpenalty=1000 \stopsetups \setuplayout[setups={*lessstrict}] \showgrid I think that the problem might be related to the (unsuccesful) avoidanceof orphans and widows in current latest. But of course, Hans or Wolfgang know better. Just in case it might help, Pablo--http://www.ousia.tk___If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-contextwebpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.netarchive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/wiki : http://contextgarden.net___
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Re: [NTG-context] Issue with grid
On 11/22/20 5:03 PM, Joseph wrote:
> Dear list,
>
> In some cases with latest LMTX I see text not aligned to grid. MWE
> reproduces the problem (could not reproduce with default font).
Hi Joseph,
I think this is related to the fact that your paragraphs are hard to
break between pages, since they only contain two lines.
I think this paragraph break among pages is what triggers the issue you
mention.
> Typesetting MWE using online ConTeXt page shows correctly aligned text
> on grid.
https://live.contextgarden.net/ includes both LuaTeX 2.06 20200630 +
ConTeXt MkIV 2020.06.30 17:30.
> If number of itérations is changed from 8 to 7) problem does not appear,
> seems to be linked to the fact page is fully filled with lines.
Because the text fits in a single page.
> If one of the \blank lines is commented out problem does not occur either.
Because you avoid the problem of breaking the paragraph between pages.
You can also avoid that using the following (but it will work only with
your MWE, I know):
\setuplayout[setups=*lessstrict]
\startsetups[*lessstrict]
\widowpenalty=1000
\clubpenalty=1000
\brokenpenalty=1000
\stopsetups
\setuplayout[setups={*lessstrict}]
\showgrid
I think that the problem might be related to the (unsuccesful) avoidance
of orphans and widows in current latest.
But of course, Hans or Wolfgang know better.
Just in case it might help,
Pablo
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[NTG-context] Issue with grid
Dear list, In some cases with latest LMTX I see text not aligned to grid. MWE reproduces the problem (could not reproduce with default font).Typesetting MWE using online ConTeXt page shows correctly aligned text on grid. \showgrid\setuplayout[grid=both] \definefontfeature[base][mode=node] \definefontfamily[mainfont][serif][EBGaramond][features=base]\setupbodyfont[mainfont, 9pt] \starttext \blank[line, samepage]Fin des psalmes. \blank[line, samepage]Fin des psalmes. \dorecurse{8}{\input knuth } \stoptext If number of itérations is changed from 8 to 7) problem does not appear, seems to be linked to the fact page is fully filled with lines.If one of the \blank lines is commented out problem does not occur either.
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Re: [NTG-context] grid+formulas: bug or expected behavior?
Thank you Wolfgang. LD On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 1:08 PM Wolfgang Schuster < wolfgang.schuster.li...@gmail.com> wrote: > Luca Donetti schrieb am 31.05.2019 um 20:46: > > Dear all, > > I'm typesetting a document with grid layout and some formulas, like in > > the minimal example below: > > > > %%%% > > \setuplayout[grid=yes] > \setupformulas[option=depth] > > \showgrid > > > > \starttext > > \input knuth > > %\blank > > \startformula > > a = b + c > > \stopformula > > \input knuth > > \stoptext > > > Wolfgang > > ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] grid+formulas: bug or expected behavior?
Luca Donetti schrieb am 31.05.2019 um 20:46: Dear all, I'm typesetting a document with grid layout and some formulas, like in the minimal example below: \setuplayout[grid=yes] \setupformulas[option=depth] \showgrid \starttext \input knuth %\blank \startformula a = b + c \stopformula \input knuth \stoptext Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] grid+formulas: bug or expected behavior?
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Re: [NTG-context] grid+formulas: bug or expected behavior?
> > I don't have any specific need for the alignment of the formula with > > respect to the grid, but I expect the text below the formula to be on the > > grid. However, I've not been able to achieve that with any of the layout > > options described in the latest "details.pdf" manual: in all cases I've > > tried the text below the formula doesn't "sit" on the grid. > > Looking through my unread ML mails, I saw nobody answered to you. > > Did you try enclosing your formulae in \startlinecorrection ... > \stoplinecorrection ? > AFAIK that should do the job. > > Greetlings, Hraban > > Thank you Hraban, Indeed what you suggest works. If I write: \startlinecorrection \startformula a = b + c \stopformula \stoplinecorrection the text below the formula is correctly aligned to the grid. However, what puzzles me is that the version _without_ \startlinecorrection ... \stoplinecorrection works with an old version of context (from texlive 2017). Moreover, i guess this is not something due to my setup, because I observe the same (or at least very similar) behavior in the chapter of the details.pdf manual about grid and math. In the attached screenshot I show the first page of such chapter in the version shipped with a recent beta (on the left) and with texlive 2017 (on the right). While in the old version the text after the formulas is aligned to the grid, in the new version of the manual this is not the case: the text is not aligned. Is this a known (documented?) change or an unnoticed regression? Thank you in advance, LD ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] grid+formulas: bug or expected behavior?
Zitat von Luca Donetti : I don't have any specific need for the alignment of the formula with respect to the grid, but I expect the text below the formula to be on the grid. However, I've not been able to achieve that with any of the layout options described in the latest "details.pdf" manual: in all cases I've tried the text below the formula doesn't "sit" on the grid. Looking through my unread ML mails, I saw nobody answered to you. Did you try enclosing your formulae in \startlinecorrection ... \stoplinecorrection ? AFAIK that should do the job. Greetlings, Hraban --- https://www.fiee.net http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.dreiviertelhaus.de GPG Key ID 1C9B22FD ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] grid+formulas: bug or expected behavior?
Dear all, I'm typesetting a document with grid layout and some formulas, like in the minimal example below: \setuplayout[grid=yes] \showgrid \starttext \input knuth %\blank \startformula a = b + c \stopformula \input knuth \stoptext I don't have any specific need for the alignment of the formula with respect to the grid, but I expect the text below the formula to be on the grid. However, I've not been able to achieve that with any of the layout options described in the latest "details.pdf" manual: in all cases I've tried the text below the formula doesn't "sit" on the grid. While I do not understand this behavior, I've thought that it could be the intended one, because this is what happens in chapter 4 of the "details" manual. Then, I noticed that in older versions of the same manual (for example the one included in texlive 2017) the behavior shown in chapter 4 is the one I expect: the text after formulas is aligned to the grid. So I'm a bit puzzled: should the text after formulas be aligned to the grid or not? Is this a (known?) bug or intended behavior? If this is the expected behavior, I can live with that because by trial and error I found a workaround. If I employ a \blank command before the formula (as in the commented line in the above example), the text after the formula is "correctly" aligned. Thank you in advance. LD ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Question to floating figure and grid
Hi all,
the following code worked in TL2017 but in TL2018 the unwanted vertical
space appears before the 2nd knuth.tex. I do not know how to supress it.
I also do not know how to deal with the distance between the text and the
figure, I guessed that is controled by leftmargindistance but it makes
nothing. What am I doing wrong?
Best wishes,
Tomáš
%%%
\setuplayout[grid=yes]
\starttext
\def\myfig#1#2#3#4{
\startplacefigure[location={right,none}]
\setupfloat[roffset=0cc] % leftmargindistance=2cm
\startfloatcombination[1*1]
\setupfloatcaption[align=middle]
\placefigure[][#1]{#2}{\externalfigure[#3][#4]}
\stopfloatcombination
\stopplacefigure}
\input knuth
\myfig{fig1}{This is FIG1}{any.jpg}{scale=250}
\input knuth
\input knuth
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with grid alignment and paragraph
On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 9:35 PM Wolfgang Schuster < wolfgang.schuster.li...@gmail.com> wrote: > Luca Donetti schrieb am 07.01.19 um 21:21: > > On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 2:53 PM Wolfgang Schuster > > > <mailto:wolfgang.schuster.li...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > Luca Donetti schrieb am 14.12.18 um 22:14: > > > Dear list, > > > > > > I am facing a problem with grid alignment when using paragraphs. I > > > think it could be a bug because the MWE below produces lines > > which are > > > correctly aligned to the grid with the context version included in > > > texlive 2017, but it does not seem to work with the context in > > texlive > > > 2018 and the current beta (ConTeXt ver: 2018.12.07 19:37 MKIV beta > > > fmt: 2018.12.14). > > > This is the MWE: > > > > > > \setuplayout[grid=yes] > > > \defineparagraphs[twocols][n=2] > > > \showgrid > > > > > > \starttext > > > \starttwocols > > > \input knuth > > > \nexttwocols > > > \input knuth > > > \stoptwocols > > > \stoptext > > > > > > Am I doing anything wrong? If not, I'll appreciate any > > suggestion or > > > workaround. > > > > > https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/468711/context-defineparagraphs-aligned-to-grid/ > > > > Wolfgang > > > > Dear Wolfgang, > > > > thank you for your help. Unfortunately, if I follow the suggestion in > > your link (using [location=depth]), the alignment improves but it is > > still not good: some lines are on grid while some others are not. If I > > understand correctly your answer, inside the \framed there is a table > > and, in this case, it seems to me that the spacing between lines is > > not always equal to the grid spacing. > > > > Is there a way to force the interline spacing inside the \framed > > block? I'm sorry if this is a simple question, but I'm quite new to > > context. > > The interlinespace is correct but the paragraphs environment is too high, > location=bottom puts the text on the baseline but it adds an extra blank > line at the begin of the environment. > > A simple fix to get rid of the extra line is to set the width of the frame > border to 0pt which doesn’t matter when the rules are disabled. > > \setuplayout[grid=yes] > > \defineparagraphs [twocols] [n=2] > > \setupparagraphs >[twocols] >[location=bottom, > rulethickness=0pt] > > \showgrid > > \starttext > > \starttwocols >\input knuth >\nexttwocols >\input knuth > \stoptwocols > > \stoptext > > Wolfgang > Dear Wolfgang, thank you very much for your reply (and sorry for my late reply). Your suggestion do solve my minimal example but, unfortunately, not my real world example. I will try to find another minimal example which still shows the problem. In the meantime I'll try to play with different options of location=. LD ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Problem with grid alignment and paragraph
Luca Donetti schrieb am 07.01.19 um 21:21: On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 2:53 PM Wolfgang Schuster <mailto:wolfgang.schuster.li...@gmail.com>> wrote: Luca Donetti schrieb am 14.12.18 um 22:14: > Dear list, > > I am facing a problem with grid alignment when using paragraphs. I > think it could be a bug because the MWE below produces lines which are > correctly aligned to the grid with the context version included in > texlive 2017, but it does not seem to work with the context in texlive > 2018 and the current beta (ConTeXt ver: 2018.12.07 19:37 MKIV beta > fmt: 2018.12.14). > This is the MWE: > > \setuplayout[grid=yes] > \defineparagraphs[twocols][n=2] > \showgrid > > \starttext > \starttwocols > \input knuth > \nexttwocols > \input knuth > \stoptwocols > \stoptext > > Am I doing anything wrong? If not, I'll appreciate any suggestion or > workaround. https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/468711/context-defineparagraphs-aligned-to-grid/ Wolfgang Dear Wolfgang, thank you for your help. Unfortunately, if I follow the suggestion in your link (using [location=depth]), the alignment improves but it is still not good: some lines are on grid while some others are not. If I understand correctly your answer, inside the \framed there is a table and, in this case, it seems to me that the spacing between lines is not always equal to the grid spacing. Is there a way to force the interline spacing inside the \framed block? I'm sorry if this is a simple question, but I'm quite new to context. The interlinespace is correct but the paragraphs environment is too high, location=bottom puts the text on the baseline but it adds an extra blank line at the begin of the environment. A simple fix to get rid of the extra line is to set the width of the frame border to 0pt which doesn’t matter when the rules are disabled. \setuplayout[grid=yes] \defineparagraphs [twocols] [n=2] \setupparagraphs [twocols] [location=bottom, rulethickness=0pt] \showgrid \starttext \starttwocols \input knuth \nexttwocols \input knuth \stoptwocols \stoptext Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Problem with grid alignment and paragraph
On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 2:53 PM Wolfgang Schuster < wolfgang.schuster.li...@gmail.com> wrote: > Luca Donetti schrieb am 14.12.18 um 22:14: > > Dear list, > > > > I am facing a problem with grid alignment when using paragraphs. I > > think it could be a bug because the MWE below produces lines which are > > correctly aligned to the grid with the context version included in > > texlive 2017, but it does not seem to work with the context in texlive > > 2018 and the current beta (ConTeXt ver: 2018.12.07 19:37 MKIV beta > > fmt: 2018.12.14). > > This is the MWE: > > > > \setuplayout[grid=yes] > > \defineparagraphs[twocols][n=2] > > \showgrid > > > > \starttext > > \starttwocols > > \input knuth > > \nexttwocols > > \input knuth > > \stoptwocols > > \stoptext > > > > Am I doing anything wrong? If not, I'll appreciate any suggestion or > > workaround. > > > https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/468711/context-defineparagraphs-aligned-to-grid/ > > Wolfgang > Dear Wolfgang, thank you for your help. Unfortunately, if I follow the suggestion in your link (using [location=depth]), the alignment improves but it is still not good: some lines are on grid while some others are not. If I understand correctly your answer, inside the \framed there is a table and, in this case, it seems to me that the spacing between lines is not always equal to the grid spacing. Is there a way to force the interline spacing inside the \framed block? I'm sorry if this is a simple question, but I'm quite new to context. This is the new example: \setuplayout[grid=yes] \defineparagraphs[twocols][n=2] \setupparagraphs[twocols][location=depth] \showgrid \starttext \starttwocols \input knuth \nexttwocols \input knuth \stoptwocols \stoptext Thank you, Luca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Problem with grid alignment and paragraph
Luca Donetti schrieb am 14.12.18 um 22:14: Dear list, I am facing a problem with grid alignment when using paragraphs. I think it could be a bug because the MWE below produces lines which are correctly aligned to the grid with the context version included in texlive 2017, but it does not seem to work with the context in texlive 2018 and the current beta (ConTeXt ver: 2018.12.07 19:37 MKIV beta fmt: 2018.12.14). This is the MWE: \setuplayout[grid=yes] \defineparagraphs[twocols][n=2] \showgrid \starttext \starttwocols \input knuth \nexttwocols \input knuth \stoptwocols \stoptext Am I doing anything wrong? If not, I'll appreciate any suggestion or workaround. https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/468711/context-defineparagraphs-aligned-to-grid/ Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Problem with grid alignment and paragraph
On 12/14/2018 16:14, Luca Donetti wrote: Dear list, I am facing a problem with grid alignment when using paragraphs. I think it could be a bug because the MWE below produces lines which are correctly aligned to the grid with the context version included in texlive 2017, but it does not seem to work with the context in texlive 2018 and the current beta (ConTeXt ver: 2018.12.07 19:37 MKIV beta fmt: 2018.12.14). This is the MWE: \setuplayout[grid=yes] \defineparagraphs[twocols][n=2] \showgrid \starttext \starttwocols \input knuth \nexttwocols \input knuth \stoptwocols \stoptext Am I doing anything wrong? If not, I'll appreciate any suggestion or workaround. Thank you in advance for your help. LD ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ The result is properly aligned here on W10x64 both with the (same) current beta and with TL18. -- Rik ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Problem with grid alignment and paragraph
Dear list, I am facing a problem with grid alignment when using paragraphs. I think it could be a bug because the MWE below produces lines which are correctly aligned to the grid with the context version included in texlive 2017, but it does not seem to work with the context in texlive 2018 and the current beta (ConTeXt ver: 2018.12.07 19:37 MKIV beta fmt: 2018.12.14). This is the MWE: \setuplayout[grid=yes] \defineparagraphs[twocols][n=2] \showgrid \starttext \starttwocols \input knuth \nexttwocols \input knuth \stoptwocols \stoptext Am I doing anything wrong? If not, I'll appreciate any suggestion or workaround. Thank you in advance for your help. LD ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] mathalignment and grid
On 7/3/2017 8:37 AM, Henri Menke wrote:
Dear Hans,
In a previous email I complained that with mathalignment large formulas crash
into the paragraph
below when using grid typesetting. This has been fixed in the latest beta but
now the space above
and below is asymmetric. For this particular case I could fix it by setting
the gird snapping mode
to "top" rather than "math", but this does not apply universally. Any chance
there is an easy fix?
you can experiment with other grid options to see what is the best
average .. the problem is that in a symmetrical vcentered formula ht/dp
is kind of unknown (we could add a grid key to formulas so that users
can choose)
Cheers, Henri
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\setuplayout[grid=both]
\showgrid
\startmode[fix]
\unprotect
\def\math_alignment_snap_start
{\ifgridsnapping
\snaptogrid[top]\vbox\bgroup
\fi}
\protect
\stopmode
\starttext
\input knuth
\startformula
\startmathalignment
\NC i\hbar\frac{\diff}{\diff t}\psi \NC= \left( - \frac{\hbar^2}{2 m}
\nabla^2 + V(r) \right)
\psi \NR
\NC F(x) \NC= \int f(x) \diff x \NR
\stopmathalignment
\stopformula
\input ward
\stoptext
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[NTG-context] mathalignment and grid
Dear Hans,
In a previous email I complained that with mathalignment large formulas crash
into the paragraph
below when using grid typesetting. This has been fixed in the latest beta but
now the space above
and below is asymmetric. For this particular case I could fix it by setting
the gird snapping mode
to "top" rather than "math", but this does not apply universally. Any chance
there is an easy fix?
Cheers, Henri
---
\setuplayout[grid=both]
\showgrid
\startmode[fix]
\unprotect
\def\math_alignment_snap_start
{\ifgridsnapping
\snaptogrid[top]\vbox\bgroup
\fi}
\protect
\stopmode
\starttext
\input knuth
\startformula
\startmathalignment
\NC i\hbar\frac{\diff}{\diff t}\psi \NC= \left( - \frac{\hbar^2}{2 m}
\nabla^2 + V(r) \right)
\psi \NR
\NC F(x) \NC= \int f(x) \diff x \NR
\stopmathalignment
\stopformula
\input ward
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] mathmatrix and grid: followup
I just realised that this is fixed in beta. Thanks! On Thu, 2017-06-01 at 19:33 +1200, Henri Menke wrote: > This seems to be quite unimportant to anyone but me. Bump! > > On Sun, 2017-04-02 at 09:12 +1200, Henri Menke wrote: > > > > I haven’t bumped this in a long time... > > > > On 01/24/2017 11:57 PM, Henri Menke wrote: > > > > > > > > > Bump > > > > > > On 01/06/2017 10:33 AM, Henri Menke wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Bump and (belated) Happy New Year! > > > > > > > > On 12/10/2016 10:37 AM, Henri Menke wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bump > > > > > > > > > > On 11/27/2016 07:45 PM, Henri Menke wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bump > > > > > > > > > > > > On 11/22/2016 02:18 PM, Henri Menke wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some time ago I asked about the interplay of mathmatix with grid > > > > > > > typesetting: https:// > > > > > > > ma > > > > > > > ilman.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2016/087018.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I noticed that when the grid is enabled, the height of a > > > > > > > mathmatrix is rounded down > > > > > > > which leaves less space above than below. In my opinion either > > > > > > > the height should be > > > > > > > rounded up or the depth rounded down here. In the original > > > > > > > thread Wolfgang proposed > > > > > > > using \setupformula[grid=tolerant] and adding a blank line before > > > > > > > the formula > > > > > > > (otherwise > > > > > > > grid=tolerant is applied to the paragraph before). This > > > > > > > workaround leads to the depth > > > > > > > being rounded down in the example below which produces a more > > > > > > > balanced output. Could > > > > > > > this somehow be made the default behaviour or something? > > > > > > > Currently it requires the > > > > > > > user > > > > > > > to notice that vertical spacing is off and correct it manually, > > > > > > > including adding a > > > > > > > blank > > > > > > > line before the formula to prevent grid=tolerant being applied to > > > > > > > the paragraph. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, Henri > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > \setuplayout[grid=yes] > > > > > > > \showgrid > > > > > > > > > > > > > > \starttext > > > > > > > > > > > > > > \input knuth > > > > > > > \startformula > > > > > > > \vrule % make lineheight and depth visible > > > > > > > \startmathmatrix > > > > > > > \NC A \NR > > > > > > > \NC B \NR > > > > > > > \NC C \NR > > > > > > > \stopmathmatrix > > > > > > > \stopformula > > > > > > > \input tufte > > > > > > > > > > > > > > \stoptext > > > > > > > ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] mathmatrix and grid: followup
This seems to be quite unimportant to anyone but me. Bump! On Sun, 2017-04-02 at 09:12 +1200, Henri Menke wrote: > I haven’t bumped this in a long time... > > On 01/24/2017 11:57 PM, Henri Menke wrote: > > > > Bump > > > > On 01/06/2017 10:33 AM, Henri Menke wrote: > > > > > > Bump and (belated) Happy New Year! > > > > > > On 12/10/2016 10:37 AM, Henri Menke wrote: > > > > > > > > Bump > > > > > > > > On 11/27/2016 07:45 PM, Henri Menke wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Bump > > > > > > > > > > On 11/22/2016 02:18 PM, Henri Menke wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list, > > > > > > > > > > > > some time ago I asked about the interplay of mathmatix with grid > > > > > > typesetting: https://ma > > > > > > ilman.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2016/087018.html > > > > > > > > > > > > I noticed that when the grid is enabled, the height of a mathmatrix > > > > > > is rounded down > > > > > > which leaves less space above than below. In my opinion either the > > > > > > height should be > > > > > > rounded up or the depth rounded down here. In the original thread > > > > > > Wolfgang proposed > > > > > > using \setupformula[grid=tolerant] and adding a blank line before > > > > > > the formula (otherwise > > > > > > grid=tolerant is applied to the paragraph before). This workaround > > > > > > leads to the depth > > > > > > being rounded down in the example below which produces a more > > > > > > balanced output. Could > > > > > > this somehow be made the default behaviour or something? Currently > > > > > > it requires the user > > > > > > to notice that vertical spacing is off and correct it manually, > > > > > > including adding a blank > > > > > > line before the formula to prevent grid=tolerant being applied to > > > > > > the paragraph. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, Henri > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > > > > > \setuplayout[grid=yes] > > > > > > \showgrid > > > > > > > > > > > > \starttext > > > > > > > > > > > > \input knuth > > > > > > \startformula > > > > > > \vrule % make lineheight and depth visible > > > > > > \startmathmatrix > > > > > > \NC A \NR > > > > > > \NC B \NR > > > > > > \NC C \NR > > > > > > \stopmathmatrix > > > > > > \stopformula > > > > > > \input tufte > > > > > > > > > > > > \stoptext > > > > > > ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] side caption top aligned on grid -- not implemented?
> There’s still one catch: When I change the caption key „location“ to „bottom“
> together with „inbetween={\blank[-\strutdepth]}“ the picture is aligned with
> the black line (top of the first text line).
> This would actually be the preferred solution also for „{left,high}“. Yet I
> couldn’t find a possibility to shift the picture vertically by some
> millimeters.
> Is there?
To whoever might be trying to get this to work, too:
\offset[y=2mm] *inside* \placeongrid will do this.
Best,
Florian.
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Re: [NTG-context] side caption top aligned on grid -- not implemented?
By trial-and-error I’ve come up with the following. It seems like a hack but
both variants are close enough to my requirements that I would be able to work
with one of them.
There’s still one catch: When I change the caption key „location“ to „bottom“
together with „inbetween={\blank[-\strutdepth]}“ the picture is aligned with
the black line (top of the first text line).
This would actually be the preferred solution also for „{left,high}“. Yet I
couldn’t find a possibility to shift the picture vertically by some millimeters.
Is there?
Best regards,
Florian.
\useMPlibrary[dum]
\setuplayout [grid=yes]
\setupinterlinespace [line=20pt]
\setupcaption [figure] [
location={left,high},
%% location={bottom}, %different
alignment
number=no,
% inbetween={\blank[-.01mm]},
%Variant 1: picture top-aligned, caption on grid
inbetween={\blank[-\strutdepth]}, %Variant 2: picture and caption top-aligned,
caption not on grid
]
\starttext
\showgrid
\startplacefigure
[location=top,none,title={There is not so much basic instruction, as of
now, as there was
in the old days, showing the differences between good and bad typographic
design.},
]
\placeongrid[max]{
\externalfigure [dummy] [width=.6\textwidth]
}
\stopplacefigure
\input zapf
\stoptext
> Den 6. apr. 2017 kl. 10.12 skrev Florian Grammel <florian.gram...@gmail.com>:
>
> At http://tex.stackexchange.com/q/362215/6819 I asked: How can I place the
> top line of the caption (location={left, high}) on the grid and have it align
> with the figure at same height.
>
> I hoped this to be solvable by some simple instructions that I just haven’t
> been able to figure out. But Henri Menke suggested in a comment that the
> mechanism might not be implemented.
> Is this really the case?
> And if so: is there any way to achieve the alignment anyway?
>
> I’d greatly appreciate any help as this is an important requirement for my
> present project!
>
> Best regards,
> Florian.
>
Florian Grammel
Copenhagen, Denmark
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[NTG-context] side caption top aligned on grid -- not implemented?
At http://tex.stackexchange.com/q/362215/6819 I asked: How can I place the top
line of the caption (location={left, high}) on the grid and have it align with
the figure at same height.
I hoped this to be solvable by some simple instructions that I just haven’t
been able to figure out. But Henri Menke suggested in a comment that the
mechanism might not be implemented.
Is this really the case?
And if so: is there any way to achieve the alignment anyway?
I’d greatly appreciate any help as this is an important requirement for my
present project!
Best regards,
Florian.
Florian Grammel
Copenhagen, Denmark
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Re: [NTG-context] mathmatrix and grid: followup
I haven’t bumped this in a long time... On 01/24/2017 11:57 PM, Henri Menke wrote: > Bump > > On 01/06/2017 10:33 AM, Henri Menke wrote: >> Bump and (belated) Happy New Year! >> >> On 12/10/2016 10:37 AM, Henri Menke wrote: >>> Bump >>> >>> On 11/27/2016 07:45 PM, Henri Menke wrote: >>>> Bump >>>> >>>> On 11/22/2016 02:18 PM, Henri Menke wrote: >>>>> Dear list, >>>>> >>>>> some time ago I asked about the interplay of mathmatix with grid >>>>> typesetting: https://mailman.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2016/087018.html >>>>> >>>>> I noticed that when the grid is enabled, the height of a mathmatrix is >>>>> rounded down which leaves less space above than below. In my opinion >>>>> either the height should be rounded up or the depth rounded down here. >>>>> In the original thread Wolfgang proposed using >>>>> \setupformula[grid=tolerant] and adding a blank line before the formula >>>>> (otherwise grid=tolerant is applied to the paragraph before). This >>>>> workaround leads to the depth being rounded down in the example below >>>>> which produces a more balanced output. Could this somehow be made the >>>>> default behaviour or something? Currently it requires the user to notice >>>>> that vertical spacing is off and correct it manually, including adding a >>>>> blank line before the formula to prevent grid=tolerant being applied to >>>>> the paragraph. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, Henri >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> >>>>> \setuplayout[grid=yes] >>>>> \showgrid >>>>> >>>>> \starttext >>>>> >>>>> \input knuth >>>>> \startformula >>>>> \vrule % make lineheight and depth visible >>>>> \startmathmatrix >>>>> \NC A \NR >>>>> \NC B \NR >>>>> \NC C \NR >>>>> \stopmathmatrix >>>>> \stopformula >>>>> \input tufte >>>>> >>>>> \stoptext >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] controlling title head distances when grid is enabled
Dear context users:
I would like to typeset my documents to gridlines. If grid is enabled,
the distances between titles (section, subsection,subsubsection heads)
and text are too big. Here's an example:
\setuplayout[grid=yes]
\showgrid
\starttext
\section{Section One}
\input tufte
\subsection{Subsection One}
\input ward
\subsubsection{Subsubsection One}
\input tufte
\section{Section Two}
\subsection{Subsection Two}
\input davis
\subsection{Subsection Three}
\input dawkins
\stoptext
In the output there are 3 empty lines before and 2 after Subsection One.
It would be enough 2 and 1 lines, respectively. On page 2, between
Section Two and Subsection Two heads 4 empty lines are inserted,
which is to much (ugly). How can I control the empty space before
and after heads when grid is enabled?
I tried this:
\setuphead[section][before=\vskip-2.8ex,after=\vskip-2.8ex]
but it removes all spaces not only 1 line.
I also tried
\setuphead[section][before={\blank[2*line]},after={\blank[line]}]
but it doesn't have any effect.
Thank you in advance,
bcsikos
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Re: [NTG-context] mathmatrix and grid: followup
Bump On 01/06/2017 10:33 AM, Henri Menke wrote: > Bump and (belated) Happy New Year! > > On 12/10/2016 10:37 AM, Henri Menke wrote: >> Bump >> >> On 11/27/2016 07:45 PM, Henri Menke wrote: >>> Bump >>> >>> On 11/22/2016 02:18 PM, Henri Menke wrote: >>>> Dear list, >>>> >>>> some time ago I asked about the interplay of mathmatix with grid >>>> typesetting: https://mailman.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2016/087018.html >>>> >>>> I noticed that when the grid is enabled, the height of a mathmatrix is >>>> rounded down which leaves less space above than below. In my opinion >>>> either the height should be rounded up or the depth rounded down here. In >>>> the original thread Wolfgang proposed using \setupformula[grid=tolerant] >>>> and adding a blank line before the formula (otherwise grid=tolerant is >>>> applied to the paragraph before). This workaround leads to the depth >>>> being rounded down in the example below which produces a more balanced >>>> output. Could this somehow be made the default behaviour or something? >>>> Currently it requires the user to notice that vertical spacing is off and >>>> correct it manually, including adding a blank line before the formula to >>>> prevent grid=tolerant being applied to the paragraph. >>>> >>>> Cheers, Henri >>>> >>>> --- >>>> >>>> \setuplayout[grid=yes] >>>> \showgrid >>>> >>>> \starttext >>>> >>>> \input knuth >>>> \startformula >>>> \vrule % make lineheight and depth visible >>>> \startmathmatrix >>>> \NC A \NR >>>> \NC B \NR >>>> \NC C \NR >>>> \stopmathmatrix >>>> \stopformula >>>> \input tufte >>>> >>>> \stoptext >>>> >>> >> > ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] mathmatrix and grid: followup
Bump and (belated) Happy New Year! On 12/10/2016 10:37 AM, Henri Menke wrote: > Bump > > On 11/27/2016 07:45 PM, Henri Menke wrote: >> Bump >> >> On 11/22/2016 02:18 PM, Henri Menke wrote: >>> Dear list, >>> >>> some time ago I asked about the interplay of mathmatix with grid >>> typesetting: https://mailman.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2016/087018.html >>> >>> I noticed that when the grid is enabled, the height of a mathmatrix is >>> rounded down which leaves less space above than below. In my opinion >>> either the height should be rounded up or the depth rounded down here. In >>> the original thread Wolfgang proposed using \setupformula[grid=tolerant] >>> and adding a blank line before the formula (otherwise grid=tolerant is >>> applied to the paragraph before). This workaround leads to the depth being >>> rounded down in the example below which produces a more balanced output. >>> Could this somehow be made the default behaviour or something? Currently >>> it requires the user to notice that vertical spacing is off and correct it >>> manually, including adding a blank line before the formula to prevent >>> grid=tolerant being applied to the paragraph. >>> >>> Cheers, Henri >>> >>> --- >>> >>> \setuplayout[grid=yes] >>> \showgrid >>> >>> \starttext >>> >>> \input knuth >>> \startformula >>> \vrule % make lineheight and depth visible >>> \startmathmatrix >>> \NC A \NR >>> \NC B \NR >>> \NC C \NR >>> \stopmathmatrix >>> \stopformula >>> \input tufte >>> >>> \stoptext >>> >> > ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Back on grid after displayed math
On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 10:15 PM, Mikael P. Sundqvist <mic...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi! > > Im curious how to get back to the grid after a displayed formula? I try > > \setuplayout[grid=yes] > \showgrid > > \setupformulas[align=middle] > > \starttext > \input knuth > > \startformula > a^2+b^2=c^2 > \stopformula > > \input knuth > \stoptext > > (where the \setupformulas[align=middle] was suggested in a comment at > http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/254815/grid-on-aligned-equations-in-context > , but that makes no difference) > > but that does not work (result attached). > > Would it be easier if there were also an option saying how many lines > the equation should take? Say, > > \startformula[lines=3] > a^2+b^2=c^2 > \stopformula > > and then centering the formula (or having options for that) vertically > over the three lines? Maybe that is a not a good idea for some > reason... > > /Mikael Dear list, I hope it is OK that I answer an old thread. I have tried out grids and columns, and settled for the mixed columns. I finally found out that \setupformulas[ grid=min, ] seems to be the trick to get displayed formulas in good place when there is a grid, and to get back on the grid correctly afterwards. I just thought someone else might have use of this. I attach an example. I am aware of that some formulas won't show up perfectly fine, but then one could just define a specific formula environment for those. Cheers, Mikael ctx-listmath.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document ctx-listmath.tex Description: TeX document ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] mathmatrix and grid: followup
Bump On 11/27/2016 07:45 PM, Henri Menke wrote: > Bump > > On 11/22/2016 02:18 PM, Henri Menke wrote: >> Dear list, >> >> some time ago I asked about the interplay of mathmatix with grid >> typesetting: https://mailman.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2016/087018.html >> >> I noticed that when the grid is enabled, the height of a mathmatrix is >> rounded down which leaves less space above than below. In my opinion either >> the height should be rounded up or the depth rounded down here. In the >> original thread Wolfgang proposed using \setupformula[grid=tolerant] and >> adding a blank line before the formula (otherwise grid=tolerant is applied >> to the paragraph before). This workaround leads to the depth being rounded >> down in the example below which produces a more balanced output. Could this >> somehow be made the default behaviour or something? Currently it requires >> the user to notice that vertical spacing is off and correct it manually, >> including adding a blank line before the formula to prevent grid=tolerant >> being applied to the paragraph. >> >> Cheers, Henri >> >> --- >> >> \setuplayout[grid=yes] >> \showgrid >> >> \starttext >> >> \input knuth >> \startformula >> \vrule % make lineheight and depth visible >> \startmathmatrix >> \NC A \NR >> \NC B \NR >> \NC C \NR >> \stopmathmatrix >> \stopformula >> \input tufte >> >> \stoptext >> > ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] grid snapping problem
Henri Menke írta:
>The following should do the trick.
Thank you very much. Your code indeed fixes the snap to grid problem but it also
pushes the second subsection after the float and leaves a big empty space in the
lower part of the first page, which is not desirable. The text should fill the
whole first
page. Is it possible?
>However, you have to keep \setnostrut and \setstrut around the figure because
>the
>before and after keys for captions are not (yet) implemented.
It's fine, not a problem.
I guess I can use simply \subsection command instead of \startsubsection and
\stopsubsection comands, because I find the command pairs counterproductive
in case of long text parts (part, section, subsection etc.).
Thank you again,
bcsikos
>\setuplayout[grid=yes]
>\showgrid
>
>\starttexdefinition caption:text #1
> \setuplocalinterlinespace[line=2.2ex] #1
>\stoptexdefinition
>
>\setupcaptions
> [
>width=fit,
>align=last,
>headstyle={\ss\bfx},
>style={\ss\tfx},
>before={\setnostrut},
>textcommand=\getvalue{caption:text},
> ]
>
>\starttext
>
>\startsubsection[title={Subsection title}]
> \input dawkins
> \input dawkins
>
> \setnostrut
> \startplacefigure
>[title={\input zapf }]
>\framed[width=0.6\textwidth,height=10ex]{figure}
> \stopplacefigure
> \setstrut
>
>\stopsubsection
>
>\startsubsection[title={Subsection title}]
> \input dawkins
>\stopsubsection
>
>\startsubsection[title={Subsection title}]
> \input dawkins
> \input dawkins
>\stopsubsection
>
>\stoptext
>
>On 12/06/2016 07:06 PM, Csikos Bela wrote:
>>> I would like to use grid snapping in my document: main text lines
>>> should be aligned to grid lines but figure caption text should not.
>>>
>>> I have this code:
>>>
>>> \setuplayout[grid=yes]
>>> \showgrid
>>>
>>> \setupcaptions[width=fit,align=last,headstyle={\ss\bfx},style={\ss\tfx}]
>>>
>>> \starttext
>>> \subsection{Subsection title}
>>> \input dawkins
>>> \input dawkins
>>>
>>> %startlinecorrection
>>> \startbaselinecorrection \setuplocalinterlinespace[line=2.2ex]
>>> \placefigure[][]{\input zapf
>>> }{\framed[width=0.6\textwidth,height=10ex]{figure}}
>>> \stopbaselinecorrection
>>> %stoplinecorrection
>>>
>>> \subsection{Subsection title}
>>> \input dawkins
>>> \subsection{Subsection title}
>>> \input dawkins
>>> \input dawkins
>>> \stoptext
>>>
>>> You can see that the caption is typeset as I wanted: smaller line height
>>> and it is not aligned to grid lines. But the main text after the figure is
>>> not
>>> aligned to the grid on the same page. How can I correct this?
>>> On the next page the main text is snapped to the grid again.
>>
>> Since I haven't got any answer to my question I think the code above contains
>> some obvious error, but I don't know what. What do I do wrong? Or is it just
>> not possible to achieve what I want?
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> bcsikos
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Re: [NTG-context] grid snapping problem
The following should do the trick. However, you have to keep \setnostrut and
\setstrut around the figure because the before and after keys for captions are
not (yet) implemented.
\setuplayout[grid=yes]
\showgrid
\starttexdefinition caption:text #1
\setuplocalinterlinespace[line=2.2ex] #1
\stoptexdefinition
\setupcaptions
[
width=fit,
align=last,
headstyle={\ss\bfx},
style={\ss\tfx},
before={\setnostrut},
textcommand=\getvalue{caption:text},
]
\starttext
\startsubsection[title={Subsection title}]
\input dawkins
\input dawkins
\setnostrut
\startplacefigure
[title={\input zapf }]
\framed[width=0.6\textwidth,height=10ex]{figure}
\stopplacefigure
\setstrut
\stopsubsection
\startsubsection[title={Subsection title}]
\input dawkins
\stopsubsection
\startsubsection[title={Subsection title}]
\input dawkins
\input dawkins
\stopsubsection
\stoptext
On 12/06/2016 07:06 PM, Csikos Bela wrote:
>> I would like to use grid snapping in my document: main text lines
>> should be aligned to grid lines but figure caption text should not.
>>
>> I have this code:
>>
>> \setuplayout[grid=yes]
>> \showgrid
>>
>> \setupcaptions[width=fit,align=last,headstyle={\ss\bfx},style={\ss\tfx}]
>>
>> \starttext
>> \subsection{Subsection title}
>> \input dawkins
>> \input dawkins
>>
>> %startlinecorrection
>> \startbaselinecorrection \setuplocalinterlinespace[line=2.2ex]
>> \placefigure[][]{\input zapf
>> }{\framed[width=0.6\textwidth,height=10ex]{figure}}
>> \stopbaselinecorrection
>> %stoplinecorrection
>>
>> \subsection{Subsection title}
>> \input dawkins
>> \subsection{Subsection title}
>> \input dawkins
>> \input dawkins
>> \stoptext
>>
>> You can see that the caption is typeset as I wanted: smaller line height
>> and it is not aligned to grid lines. But the main text after the figure is
>> not
>> aligned to the grid on the same page. How can I correct this?
>> On the next page the main text is snapped to the grid again.
>
> Since I haven't got any answer to my question I think the code above contains
> some obvious error, but I don't know what. What do I do wrong? Or is it just
> not possible to achieve what I want?
>
> Thank you,
>
> bcsikos
>
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Re: [NTG-context] grid snapping problem
>I would like to use grid snapping in my document: main text lines
>should be aligned to grid lines but figure caption text should not.
>
>I have this code:
>
>\setuplayout[grid=yes]
>\showgrid
>
>\setupcaptions[width=fit,align=last,headstyle={\ss\bfx},style={\ss\tfx}]
>
>\starttext
>\subsection{Subsection title}
>\input dawkins
>\input dawkins
>
>%startlinecorrection
>\startbaselinecorrection \setuplocalinterlinespace[line=2.2ex]
>\placefigure[][]{\input zapf
>}{\framed[width=0.6\textwidth,height=10ex]{figure}}
>\stopbaselinecorrection
>%stoplinecorrection
>
>\subsection{Subsection title}
>\input dawkins
>\subsection{Subsection title}
>\input dawkins
>\input dawkins
>\stoptext
>
>You can see that the caption is typeset as I wanted: smaller line height
>and it is not aligned to grid lines. But the main text after the figure is not
>aligned to the grid on the same page. How can I correct this?
>On the next page the main text is snapped to the grid again.
Since I haven't got any answer to my question I think the code above contains
some obvious error, but I don't know what. What do I do wrong? Or is it just
not possible to achieve what I want?
Thank you,
bcsikos
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[NTG-context] grid snapping problem
Dear context users:
I would like to use grid snapping in my document: main text lines
should be aligned to grid lines but figure caption text should not.
I have this code:
\setuplayout[grid=yes]
\showgrid
\setupcaptions[width=fit,align=last,headstyle={\ss\bfx},style={\ss\tfx}]
\starttext
\subsection{Subsection title}
\input dawkins
\input dawkins
%startlinecorrection
\startbaselinecorrection \setuplocalinterlinespace[line=2.2ex]
\placefigure[][]{\input zapf }{\framed[width=0.6\textwidth,height=10ex]{figure}}
\stopbaselinecorrection
%stoplinecorrection
\subsection{Subsection title}
\input dawkins
\subsection{Subsection title}
\input dawkins
\input dawkins
\stoptext
You can see that the caption is typeset as I wanted: smaller line height
and it is not aligned to grid lines. But the main text after the figure is not
aligned to the grid on the same page. How can I correct this?
On the next page the main text is snapped to the grid again.
Thank you in advance,
bcsikos
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Re: [NTG-context] mathmatrix and grid: followup
Bump On 11/22/2016 02:18 PM, Henri Menke wrote: > Dear list, > > some time ago I asked about the interplay of mathmatix with grid typesetting: > https://mailman.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2016/087018.html > > I noticed that when the grid is enabled, the height of a mathmatrix is > rounded down which leaves less space above than below. In my opinion either > the height should be rounded up or the depth rounded down here. In the > original thread Wolfgang proposed using \setupformula[grid=tolerant] and > adding a blank line before the formula (otherwise grid=tolerant is applied to > the paragraph before). This workaround leads to the depth being rounded down > in the example below which produces a more balanced output. Could this > somehow be made the default behaviour or something? Currently it requires > the user to notice that vertical spacing is off and correct it manually, > including adding a blank line before the formula to prevent grid=tolerant > being applied to the paragraph. > > Cheers, Henri > > --- > > \setuplayout[grid=yes] > \showgrid > > \starttext > > \input knuth > \startformula > \vrule % make lineheight and depth visible > \startmathmatrix > \NC A \NR > \NC B \NR > \NC C \NR > \stopmathmatrix > \stopformula > \input tufte > > \stoptext > ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] mathmatrix and grid: followup
Dear list, some time ago I asked about the interplay of mathmatix with grid typesetting: https://mailman.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2016/087018.html I noticed that when the grid is enabled, the height of a mathmatrix is rounded down which leaves less space above than below. In my opinion either the height should be rounded up or the depth rounded down here. In the original thread Wolfgang proposed using \setupformula[grid=tolerant] and adding a blank line before the formula (otherwise grid=tolerant is applied to the paragraph before). This workaround leads to the depth being rounded down in the example below which produces a more balanced output. Could this somehow be made the default behaviour or something? Currently it requires the user to notice that vertical spacing is off and correct it manually, including adding a blank line before the formula to prevent grid=tolerant being applied to the paragraph. Cheers, Henri --- \setuplayout[grid=yes] \showgrid \starttext \input knuth \startformula \vrule % make lineheight and depth visible \startmathmatrix \NC A \NR \NC B \NR \NC C \NR \stopmathmatrix \stopformula \input tufte \stoptext ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] grid, interlinespace
Hello
I want my text on a grid and there should be no gap between the top and the
capital letters of the first line.
I managed to get this by changing the height parameter of \setupinterlinespace
with a factor I calculated for the font with this formula:
CapHeight/exheight / line = height
CapHeight and exheight are font specific numbers that I got from
https://tug.org/TUGboat/tb34-2/tb107sharpe.pdf
for lmroman this gives me: 683 / 431 / 2.8 = .566 for height in interlinespace
Although there is no gap to the top lines are jumping.
making the factor bigger helps.
but smaller fonts wont snap to the grid.
What is happening here?
And is this method of changing the height the right one?
Thanks Michael
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\showgrid
\setuplayout [grid=yes]
\starttext
\setupinterlinespace
[
height=.566,
line=2.8ex,
]
\setupbodyfont [10pt]
MM on grid but jumping\par
\dorecurse{3}{\input tufte \par}
\page
\setupinterlinespace
[
height=.575,
line=2.8ex,
]
\setupbodyfont [10pt]
MM on grid\par
\dorecurse{6}{\input tufte \par}
\page
\setupbodyfont [18pt]
MM on grid\par
\dorecurse{2}{\input tufte \par}
\page
\setupbodyfont [7pt]
MM on grid\par
\dorecurse{10}{\input tufte\par}
\page
\setupbodyfont [6pt]
MM NOT on grid\par
\dorecurse{10}{\input tufte \par}
\page
\setupinterlinespace
[
height=.615,
line=2.8ex,
]
\setupbodyfont [6pt]
MM on grid but gap to top\par
\dorecurse{10}{\input tufte \par}
\page
\setupbodyfont [18pt]
MM on grid but gap to top\par
\dorecurse{2}{\input tufte \par}
\page
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] mathmatrix and grid
On 10/10/2016 12:30 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: >> Henri Menke <mailto:henrime...@gmail.com> >> 10. Oktober 2016 um 11:44 >> On 10/10/2016 11:24 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: >>>> Henri Menke <mailto:henrime...@gmail.com> >>>> 30. September 2016 um 23:01 >>>> Dear list, >>>> >>>> I noticed that when using grid=both then the height of a mathmatrix is >>>> rounded down for no apparent reason whereas the depth is rounded up >>>> correctly. Visually it appears to me that the height should be rounded up >>>> here. In the MWE I added a \vrule to show that the determined height of >>>> the line definitely does not coincide with what one would expect. >>>> >>>> How can I fix that? MWE is below. >>>> >>>> Cheers, Henri >>>> >>>> --- >>>> >>>> \setuplayout[grid=both] >>>> \showgrid >>>> >>>> \starttext >>>> >>>> \input knuth >>>> \startformula >>>> \vrule % make lineheight and depth visible >>>> \startmathmatrix >>>> \NC A \NR >>>> \NC B \NR >>>> \NC C \NR >>>> \stopmathmatrix >>>> \stopformula >>>> \input tufte >>>> >>>> \stoptext >>> The default spacing modell (3) before and after formulas breaks grid >>> alignment >>> because when you use another alternative (1 or 2) the alignment is correct. >> >> Dear Wolfgang, >> >> I appreciate your efforts but this does not change anything in my original >> example. For reference, I include my updated example >> > You can add a grid setting for the formula itself, e.g. > > \setupformula[grid=tolerant] > > but you should add a blank line before \startformula, otherwise the setting > for formula is applied to the last paragraph before it. Dear Wolfgang, thanks again, this solution works nicely for me. However, it only represents a workaround. Do you think it is possible to patch it somehow in the core? Perhaps the definition of the mathmatrix has to be adjusted somehow (in context/base/mkiv/math-ali.mkiv). Cheers, Henri > > Wolfgang > > > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the > Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___ > ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] mathmatrix and grid
Henri Menke <mailto:henrime...@gmail.com> 10. Oktober 2016 um 11:44 On 10/10/2016 11:24 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Henri Menke<mailto:henrime...@gmail.com> 30. September 2016 um 23:01 Dear list, I noticed that when using grid=both then the height of a mathmatrix is rounded down for no apparent reason whereas the depth is rounded up correctly. Visually it appears to me that the height should be rounded up here. In the MWE I added a \vrule to show that the determined height of the line definitely does not coincide with what one would expect. How can I fix that? MWE is below. Cheers, Henri --- \setuplayout[grid=both] \showgrid \starttext \input knuth \startformula \vrule % make lineheight and depth visible \startmathmatrix \NC A \NR \NC B \NR \NC C \NR \stopmathmatrix \stopformula \input tufte \stoptext The default spacing modell (3) before and after formulas breaks grid alignment because when you use another alternative (1 or 2) the alignment is correct. Dear Wolfgang, I appreciate your efforts but this does not change anything in my original example. For reference, I include my updated example You can add a grid setting for the formula itself, e.g. \setupformula[grid=tolerant] but you should add a blank line before \startformula, otherwise the setting for formula is applied to the last paragraph before it. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] mathmatrix and grid
On 10/10/2016 11:24 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>> Henri Menke <mailto:henrime...@gmail.com>
>> 30. September 2016 um 23:01
>> Dear list,
>>
>> I noticed that when using grid=both then the height of a mathmatrix is
>> rounded down for no apparent reason whereas the depth is rounded up
>> correctly. Visually it appears to me that the height should be rounded up
>> here. In the MWE I added a \vrule to show that the determined height of the
>> line definitely does not coincide with what one would expect.
>>
>> How can I fix that? MWE is below.
>>
>> Cheers, Henri
>>
>> ---
>>
>> \setuplayout[grid=both]
>> \showgrid
>>
>> \starttext
>>
>> \input knuth
>> \startformula
>> \vrule % make lineheight and depth visible
>> \startmathmatrix
>> \NC A \NR
>> \NC B \NR
>> \NC C \NR
>> \stopmathmatrix
>> \stopformula
>> \input tufte
>>
>> \stoptext
> The default spacing modell (3) before and after formulas breaks grid alignment
> because when you use another alternative (1 or 2) the alignment is correct.
Dear Wolfgang,
I appreciate your efforts but this does not change anything in my original
example. For reference, I include my updated example
%\setconstantvalue{c_strc_formulas_space_model}{1}
\setconstantvalue{c_strc_formulas_space_model}{2}
%\setconstantvalue{c_strc_formulas_space_model}{3}% default value
\setuplayout[grid=both]
\showgrid
\starttext
\input knuth
\startformula
\vrule % make lineheight and depth visible
\startmathmatrix
\NC A \NR
\NC B \NR
\NC C \NR
\stopmathmatrix
\stopformula
\input tufte
\stoptext
Cheers, Henri
>
>
> %\setconstantvalue{c_strc_formulas_space_model}{1}
> \setconstantvalue{c_strc_formulas_space_model}{2}
> %\setconstantvalue{c_strc_formulas_space_model}{3}% default value
>
> \setuplayout[grid=yes]
>
> \showgrid
>
> \starttext
>
> \input knuth
> \startformula
> x
> \stopformula
> \input tufte
>
> \stoptext
>
> Wolfgang
>
>
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Re: [NTG-context] mathmatrix and grid
Henri Menke <mailto:henrime...@gmail.com>
30. September 2016 um 23:01
Dear list,
I noticed that when using grid=both then the height of a mathmatrix is
rounded down for no apparent reason whereas the depth is rounded up
correctly. Visually it appears to me that the height should be rounded
up here. In the MWE I added a \vrule to show that the determined
height of the line definitely does not coincide with what one would
expect.
How can I fix that? MWE is below.
Cheers, Henri
---
\setuplayout[grid=both]
\showgrid
\starttext
\input knuth
\startformula
\vrule % make lineheight and depth visible
\startmathmatrix
\NC A \NR
\NC B \NR
\NC C \NR
\stopmathmatrix
\stopformula
\input tufte
\stoptext
The default spacing modell (3) before and after formulas breaks grid
alignment
because when you use another alternative (1 or 2) the alignment is correct.
%\setconstantvalue{c_strc_formulas_space_model}{1}
\setconstantvalue{c_strc_formulas_space_model}{2}
%\setconstantvalue{c_strc_formulas_space_model}{3}% default value
\setuplayout[grid=yes]
\showgrid
\starttext
\input knuth
\startformula
x
\stopformula
\input tufte
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] mathmatrix and grid
Bump On 09/30/2016 11:01 PM, Henri Menke wrote: > Dear list, > > I noticed that when using grid=both then the height of a mathmatrix is > rounded down for no apparent reason whereas the depth is rounded up > correctly. Visually it appears to me that the height should be rounded up > here. In the MWE I added a \vrule to show that the determined height of the > line definitely does not coincide with what one would expect. > > How can I fix that? MWE is below. > > Cheers, Henri > > --- > > \setuplayout[grid=both] > \showgrid > > \starttext > > \input knuth > \startformula > \vrule % make lineheight and depth visible > \startmathmatrix > \NC A \NR > \NC B \NR > \NC C \NR > \stopmathmatrix > \stopformula > \input tufte > > \stoptext > ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] mathmatrix and grid
Dear list, I noticed that when using grid=both then the height of a mathmatrix is rounded down for no apparent reason whereas the depth is rounded up correctly. Visually it appears to me that the height should be rounded up here. In the MWE I added a \vrule to show that the determined height of the line definitely does not coincide with what one would expect. How can I fix that? MWE is below. Cheers, Henri --- \setuplayout[grid=both] \showgrid \starttext \input knuth \startformula \vrule % make lineheight and depth visible \startmathmatrix \NC A \NR \NC B \NR \NC C \NR \stopmathmatrix \stopformula \input tufte \stoptext ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Help with grid typesetting
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Re: [NTG-context] Help with grid typesetting
Marcus Vinicius Mesquita <mailto:marcusvinicius.mesqu...@gmail.com>
26. September 2016 um 00:07
Dear list,
In the MWE below, the line with
\setuphead[chapter][before={\blank[3*line,force]}] disrupts the grid
typesetting in the first page. What am I missing?
\setuplayout[grid=yes]
\showgrid
\setuphead[chapter][before={\blank[3*line,force]}]
\setuphead[chapter][before={\blank[force,3*line,depth]}]
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Help with grid typesetting
On 09/26/2016 12:07 AM, Marcus Vinicius Mesquita wrote:
> Dear list,
>
> In the MWE below, the line with
> \setuphead[chapter][before={\blank[3*line,force]}] disrupts the grid
> typesetting in the first page. What am I missing?
>
>
> \setuplayout[grid=yes]
> \showgrid
> \setuphead[chapter][before={\blank[3*line,force]}]
\setuphead[chapter][before={\strut\blank[3*line,force]}]
>
> \starttext
>
> \startchapter[title={Chapter}]
> \dorecurse{7}{\input tufte}
> \stopchapter
>
> \stoptext
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[NTG-context] Help with grid typesetting
Dear list,
In the MWE below, the line with
\setuphead[chapter][before={\blank[3*line,force]}] disrupts the grid
typesetting in the first page. What am I missing?
\setuplayout[grid=yes]
\showgrid
\setuphead[chapter][before={\blank[3*line,force]}]
\starttext
\startchapter[title={Chapter}]
\dorecurse{7}{\input tufte}
\stopchapter
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] \vfill shifts content off grid
Henri Menke <mailto:henrime...@gmail.com>
31. August 2016 um 19:45
Dear list,
when I use a body font size other than the standard, issuing \vfill
will move the content off the grid. MWE is below. How do I fix this?
Cheers, Henri
---
\setupbodyfont[9pt]
\setuplayout[grid=yes]
\showgrid
\starttext
Hello
\vfill
World
\stoptext
You can calculate the number of lines which have to be inserted to move
the text
to the bottom of the text. The first step for this is to put the text
which should be
moved into a \vbox which allows paragraphs and not only short texts.
Afterwards
you can determine how much space is left on the page and with the
\getnoflines
command you get the number of lines for the free space.
begin example
\define\MoveToBottom
{\par
\dowithnextbox
{\scratchdimen\dimexpr\pagegoal-\pagetotal-\nextboxht-\lineheight\relax
\getnoflines\scratchdimen
\emptylines[\number\noflines]%
\flushnextbox}
\vbox}
\setuplayout[grid=yes]
\showgrid
\starttext
Hello
\MoveToBottom{World}
\page
\input knuth
\MoveToBottom{\input ward }
\stoptext
end example
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] \vfill shifts content off grid
On 9/1/2016 2:18 PM, Henri Menke wrote:
On 09/01/2016 01:53 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
On 9/1/2016 1:22 PM, Henri Menke wrote:
On 09/01/2016 09:33 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
On 8/31/2016 7:45 PM, Henri Menke wrote:
Dear list,
when I use a body font size other than the standard, issuing \vfill will move
the content off the grid. MWE is below. How do I fix this?
that's how vfill works, you can try \vskip30\lineheight with a value you like
Hm. Then I'd like to reformulate my question: How do I flush content to the
bottom of the page when grid is enabled without having to specific how many
lines to clear.
trial and error:
\vfilll \strut World \par \removedepth \page
This is not very satisfactory because it does not work unconditionally. For
instance with lucidaot it is still shifted off the grid.
\setupbodyfont[lucidaot,9pt]
\setuplayout[grid=yes]
\showgrid
\starttext
Hello
\vfill
World\strut\par\removedepth
\stoptext
I have come up with this other really hackish solution. I just put the text on
a layer and align this to the last line of the grid which I previously computed
in Lua (Brrr). Also, this has the disadvantage that text might flow into the
layer (it's in the background).
\setupbodyfont[9pt]
\setuplayout[grid=yes]
\showgrid
\definelayer [flushbottom]
\setupbackgrounds [text] [background=flushbottom]
\edef\numberoflines{%
\ctxlua{context(math.round(tex.dimen.textheight / tex.dimen.lineheight))}}
\starttext
Hello
\setlayer
[flushbottom]
[line=\numberoflines,location=grid]
{World}
\stoptext
Is there really no way to have grid-consistent \vfill? If there isn't please
consider this a feature request.
not without some explicit support for it which currently is not there
\startstandardmakeup[top=,bottom=]
\strut Hello
\vss
\dontleavehmode\raise3\lineheight\hbox{\strut World}
\stopstandardmakeup
Cheers, Henri
---
\setupbodyfont[9pt]
\setuplayout[grid=yes]
\showgrid
\starttext
Hello
\vfill
World
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] \vfill shifts content off grid
On 09/01/2016 01:53 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 9/1/2016 1:22 PM, Henri Menke wrote:
>> On 09/01/2016 09:33 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>> On 8/31/2016 7:45 PM, Henri Menke wrote:
>>>> Dear list,
>>>>
>>>> when I use a body font size other than the standard, issuing \vfill will
>>>> move the content off the grid. MWE is below. How do I fix this?
>>>
>>> that's how vfill works, you can try \vskip30\lineheight with a value you
>>> like
>>
>> Hm. Then I'd like to reformulate my question: How do I flush content to
>> the bottom of the page when grid is enabled without having to specific how
>> many lines to clear.
>
> trial and error:
>
> \vfilll \strut World \par \removedepth \page
This is not very satisfactory because it does not work unconditionally. For
instance with lucidaot it is still shifted off the grid.
\setupbodyfont[lucidaot,9pt]
\setuplayout[grid=yes]
\showgrid
\starttext
Hello
\vfill
World\strut\par\removedepth
\stoptext
I have come up with this other really hackish solution. I just put the text on
a layer and align this to the last line of the grid which I previously computed
in Lua (Brrr). Also, this has the disadvantage that text might flow into the
layer (it's in the background).
\setupbodyfont[9pt]
\setuplayout[grid=yes]
\showgrid
\definelayer [flushbottom]
\setupbackgrounds [text] [background=flushbottom]
\edef\numberoflines{%
\ctxlua{context(math.round(tex.dimen.textheight / tex.dimen.lineheight))}}
\starttext
Hello
\setlayer
[flushbottom]
[line=\numberoflines,location=grid]
{World}
\stoptext
Is there really no way to have grid-consistent \vfill? If there isn't please
consider this a feature request.
>
>
>>>
>>>> Cheers, Henri
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>> \setupbodyfont[9pt]
>>>> \setuplayout[grid=yes]
>>>> \showgrid
>>>> \starttext
>>>> Hello
>>>>
>>>> \vfill
>>>>
>>>> World
>>>> \stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] \vfill shifts content off grid
On 9/1/2016 1:22 PM, Henri Menke wrote: On 09/01/2016 09:33 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: On 8/31/2016 7:45 PM, Henri Menke wrote: Dear list, when I use a body font size other than the standard, issuing \vfill will move the content off the grid. MWE is below. How do I fix this? that's how vfill works, you can try \vskip30\lineheight with a value you like Hm. Then I'd like to reformulate my question: How do I flush content to the bottom of the page when grid is enabled without having to specific how many lines to clear. trial and error: \vfilll \strut World \par \removedepth \page Cheers, Henri --- \setupbodyfont[9pt] \setuplayout[grid=yes] \showgrid \starttext Hello \vfill World \stoptext ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ -- - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \vfill shifts content off grid
On 09/01/2016 09:33 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 8/31/2016 7:45 PM, Henri Menke wrote: >> Dear list, >> >> when I use a body font size other than the standard, issuing \vfill will >> move the content off the grid. MWE is below. How do I fix this? > > that's how vfill works, you can try \vskip30\lineheight with a value you like Hm. Then I'd like to reformulate my question: How do I flush content to the bottom of the page when grid is enabled without having to specific how many lines to clear. > >> Cheers, Henri >> >> --- >> >> \setupbodyfont[9pt] >> \setuplayout[grid=yes] >> \showgrid >> \starttext >> Hello >> >> \vfill >> >> World >> \stoptext >> ___ >> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to >> the Wiki! >> >> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / >> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net >> archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ >> wiki : http://contextgarden.net >> ___ >> > > ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \vfill shifts content off grid
On 8/31/2016 7:45 PM, Henri Menke wrote: Dear list, when I use a body font size other than the standard, issuing \vfill will move the content off the grid. MWE is below. How do I fix this? that's how vfill works, you can try \vskip30\lineheight with a value you like Cheers, Henri --- \setupbodyfont[9pt] \setuplayout[grid=yes] \showgrid \starttext Hello \vfill World \stoptext ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ -- - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] \vfill shifts content off grid
Dear list, when I use a body font size other than the standard, issuing \vfill will move the content off the grid. MWE is below. How do I fix this? Cheers, Henri --- \setupbodyfont[9pt] \setuplayout[grid=yes] \showgrid \starttext Hello \vfill World \stoptext ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] mathalignment and grid
Dear list,
I did some research in math-ali.mkiv and found that when grid is enabled, the
whole alignment is simply put in a vbox and snapped to the grid using
\def\math_alignment_snap_start
{\ifgridsnapping
\snaptogrid[\v!both]\vbox\bgroup
\fi}
Unfortunately, the `both` option rounds down both depth and height which is
inconvenient when the content has large descenders (as in the example). It
should be therefore changed to some other grid setting which rounds up. I
chose `top` for now but I'm not done experimenting yet.
Cheers, Henri
On 08/28/2016 03:27 PM, Henri Menke wrote:
> Dear list,
>
> when I typeset multi line equations using mathalignment and grid the
> descenders of the last line of equation run into the first line of text after
> that equation. The problem is particularly bad with the Lucida fonts (I
> think the large operators are relatively larger than for Latin Modern).
>
> I could just increase the spacing after equation (commented out in the MWE
> below), but that would introduce an imbalance between space before and space
> after for all equations without descenders. Furthermore the problem does not
> arise for single line equations with descenders. Without grid there is also
> no problem.
>
> How do I fix mathalignment to prevent this?
>
> Cheers, Henri
>
> ---
>
> \setuplayout[grid=yes]
> \setupbodyfont[lucidaot,9pt]
> %\setupformulas[spaceafter={back,nowhite,2*line}]
>
> \showgrid
> \starttext
>
> \input ward
> \startformula
> \startmathalignment
> \NC \sum_{i,\alpha,\beta} c_{i,\alpha}^\dagger c_{i,\beta} \NR
> \NC \sum_{i,\alpha,\beta} c_{i,\alpha}^\dagger c_{i,\beta} \NR
> \stopmathalignment
> \stopformula
> %\blank[2*line]
> \input ward
> \startformula
> \sum_{i,\alpha,\beta} c_{i,\alpha}^\dagger c_{i,\beta}
> \stopformula
> \input ward
> \startformula
> \text{no descenders}
> \stopformula
> \input ward
>
> \stoptext
>
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