[NTG-context] Re: Wiki - test/proposal to further clarify documentation

[Bruce Horrocks]

> On 17 Apr 2024, at 13:17, Henning Hraban Ramm  wrote:
> 
> Am 17.04.24 um 13:57 schrieb Bruce Horrocks:
>> - There are at least two books, and a third being written but not yet 
>> released: these fit into the Tutorials and Explanation quadrants.
> 
> Which published books do you mean?

Not published in the sense of having an ISBN assigned but the ones I had in 
mind were:

- "ConTeXt Mark IV An Excursion" by Ton Otten (ma-cd-en.pdf in the distribution)
- "A not so short introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV" by Joaquín Ataz-López

and your in-progress one.

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[NTG-context] Re: Wiki - test/proposal to further clarify documentation

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 17.04.24 um 23:25 schrieb Garulfo:
- exactly, it's not a question of proposing new documents, but of 
proposing another complementary way of accessing and browsing existing 
ones.


- Actually, the wiki is (or can be) a hub for the 4 needs:
   - "Reference" like https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setuphead
   - "How-To Guides" like https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Titles
   - "Tutorials":
 - hosted https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Detailed_Example
 - linked https://github.com/mpsmath/stepbystep
   - "Explanation" : mostly linked manuals and books


https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setuphead
and https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Titles
are examples of how difficult it can be to understand where to find a 
particular information.


It might be worth keeping only the key examples on reference pages
like https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/***
and moving the "how-to" examples to a separate page (or pages).


I agree. Let’s accept this as a rule for further wiki editing.

Also, explain parameters with top priority in Command/setup* pages 
(keeping them in Command/define* pages etc. doesn’t hurt, but at least 
experienced users should know where to find something without searching).


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[NTG-context] Re: Wiki - test/proposal to further clarify documentation

[Garulfo]

Le 17/04/2024 à 13:57, Bruce Horrocks a écrit :




On 14 Apr 2024, at 12:21, garu...@azules.eu wrote:

Hi all,

I just discover the Diátaxis documentation framework :


I'd be more confident if you had started by saying "I've been using the Diátaxis for 
the last ten years and have used it on multiple projects". ;-)


- https://www.diataxis.fr/
- 30min video : "What nobody tells you about documentation", 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4vKPhjcMZg  , from Daniele Procida at PyCon 2017

As I understand it, it can help both readers and writers of the documentation 
by clarifying the purpose of each element.

So I started a potential new "welcome page" :  
https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page2

The main lines would be :
- Tutorials: installation pages, step by step examples
- How-to guides: most of the existing wiki pages which are not 
https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Commands/ ...
- Discussions and manuals: most of the existing manuals
- Reference : the pages dedicated to commands which already include link to 
mailing list, stack exchange, ConTeXt's source
  - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Category:Commands
  - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Special:PrefixIndex?prefix=Command%2F

To match the logic of Diátaxis, maybe some material from command pages should be moved from 
"Reference" to "How-to guides",
for example, when the examples go beyond "pure description" and begin to deal with 
"how-to" cases, e.g. :
- Reference for setuphead: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setuphead
- How-to guides for headings: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Titles

If it make sense, and according to your feedbacks, I can continue to reallocate 
existing contents.

Thanks for your feedback and thoughts.


I'm going to be devil's advocate and say that the Context documentation is 
*already* in the Diátaxis framework - just not in one place on the Wiki.

- There are at least two books, and a third being written but not yet released: 
these fit into the Tutorials and Explanation quadrants.

- There are "My Way" guides linked from the Wiki and the PragmaADE website that fit into 
the "How-To Guides" quadrant.

- thank you for these reminders


- And the wiki itself is the "Reference" quadrant.



Clearly these can always be better but they are there already. My recommendation would be 
to use the wiki as the reference quadrant and, apart from the first few "main 
pages" for people who land there from a web search, it should focus on being the 
reference manual. Beginners should be directed to the books.


- Thanks again, the comments are helping to identify a robust method of 
distributing content across the quadrants.


- exactly, it's not a question of proposing new documents, but of 
proposing another complementary way of accessing and browsing existing ones.


- Actually, the wiki is (or can be) a hub for the 4 needs:
  - "Reference" like https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setuphead
  - "How-To Guides" like https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Titles
  - "Tutorials":
- hosted https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Detailed_Example
- linked https://github.com/mpsmath/stepbystep
  - "Explanation" : mostly linked manuals and books


https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setuphead
and https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Titles
are examples of how difficult it can be to understand where to find a 
particular information.


It might be worth keeping only the key examples on reference pages
like https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/***
and moving the "how-to" examples to a separate page (or pages).



Regards,
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Hampshire, UK

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[NTG-context] Re: Wiki - test/proposal to further clarify documentation

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 17.04.24 um 13:57 schrieb Bruce Horrocks:

- There are at least two books, and a third being written but not yet released: 
these fit into the Tutorials and Explanation quadrants.


Which published books do you mean?

I know of Alan Braslau’s book, AFAIK that will be published in French 
“soon” and probably later in English.

My German book is still not ready, while I work on it regularly.

Of course there are a lot of PDFs (most with sources), not only in the 
distribution, but also in 
https://github.com/contextgarden/not-so-short-introduction-to-context


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[NTG-context] Re: Wiki - test/proposal to further clarify documentation

[Bruce Horrocks]

> On 14 Apr 2024, at 12:21, garu...@azules.eu wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I just discover the Diátaxis documentation framework :

I'd be more confident if you had started by saying "I've been using the 
Diátaxis for the last ten years and have used it on multiple projects". ;-)

> - https://www.diataxis.fr/
> - 30min video : "What nobody tells you about documentation", 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4vKPhjcMZg  , from Daniele Procida at PyCon 
> 2017
> 
> As I understand it, it can help both readers and writers of the documentation 
> by clarifying the purpose of each element.
> 
> So I started a potential new "welcome page" :  
> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page2
> 
> The main lines would be :
> - Tutorials: installation pages, step by step examples
> - How-to guides: most of the existing wiki pages which are not 
> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Commands/ ...
> - Discussions and manuals: most of the existing manuals
> - Reference : the pages dedicated to commands which already include link to 
> mailing list, stack exchange, ConTeXt's source
>  - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Category:Commands
>  - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Special:PrefixIndex?prefix=Command%2F
> 
> To match the logic of Diátaxis, maybe some material from command pages should 
> be moved from "Reference" to "How-to guides",
> for example, when the examples go beyond "pure description" and begin to deal 
> with "how-to" cases, e.g. :
> - Reference for setuphead: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setuphead
> - How-to guides for headings: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Titles
> 
> If it make sense, and according to your feedbacks, I can continue to 
> reallocate existing contents.
> 
> Thanks for your feedback and thoughts.

I'm going to be devil's advocate and say that the Context documentation is 
*already* in the Diátaxis framework - just not in one place on the Wiki.

- There are at least two books, and a third being written but not yet released: 
these fit into the Tutorials and Explanation quadrants.

- There are "My Way" guides linked from the Wiki and the PragmaADE website that 
fit into the "How-To Guides" quadrant.

- And the wiki itself is the "Reference" quadrant.

Clearly these can always be better but they are there already. My 
recommendation would be to use the wiki as the reference quadrant and, apart 
from the first few "main pages" for people who land there from a web search, it 
should focus on being the reference manual. Beginners should be directed to the 
books.

Regards,
—
Bruce Horrocks
Hampshire, UK

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[NTG-context] Re: Wiki - test/proposal to further clarify documentation

[jbf]

Unfortunately, despite all that has been said, we have to realise what 
words actually mean in English, and 'infamous' has a negative 
connotation. So I recommend rephrasing this and perhaps the entire 
paragraph so that it presents a positive perspective on ConTeXt. But if 
you mean 'less known' then simply say that: ConTeXt is the less known 
alternative to LaTeX. and rather than 'growing minority', say 'growing 
number'. We do not say 'ambitioned enthusiasts' in English, but we could 
say 'ambitious enthusiasts'.


Julian

On 17/4/24 19:10, Joaquín Ataz López wrote:


I used “infamous” as a funny way to say “not famous, but somewhat 
known” (and yes, I know Latin and what the words really mean).
That was my understanding. Infamous=Not famous; that is, not as well 
known as others. A slight play on words.




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[NTG-context] Re: Wiki - test/proposal to further clarify documentation

[Joaquín Ataz López]

I used “infamous” as a funny way to say “not famous, but somewhat 
known” (and yes, I know Latin and what the words really mean).
That was my understanding. Infamous=Not famous; that is, not as well 
known as others. A slight play on words.



--

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Departamento de Derecho civil
Universidad de Murcia - España

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[NTG-context] Re: Wiki - test/proposal to further clarify documentation

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 17.04.24 um 10:36 schrieb Hans Hagen:

On 4/17/2024 8:32 AM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:



On 16. Apr 2024, at 21:56, Peter Hopcroft via ntg-context 
 wrote:





On 17/04/2024, at 7:11 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm  wrote:

In my poster (still WIP) I wrote:
…


Excellent


No, I must admit I don’t like the first two paragraphs. The question 
is “what is ConTeXt,” and the answer is “we’re not LaTeX.” And why 
“infamous”?
I agree. It sounds the same as "we're not msword" or "we're not google 
docs". (In the end the only thing that latex and context have in common 
is that they use the tex language / ecosystem.)


In my experience, most people interested in ConTeXt know LaTeX, so it 
makes sense to compare.
And I actually just say “LaTeX is the most known command-based 
typesetting system” (that’s just true) to shortcut explaining what a 
cbts might be.


Your critique applies to JUH’s quote, though.

I used “infamous” as a funny way to say “not famous, but somewhat known” 
(and yes, I know Latin and what the words really mean).


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[NTG-context] Re: Wiki - test/proposal to further clarify documentation

[Hans Hagen]

On 4/17/2024 8:32 AM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:




On 16. Apr 2024, at 21:56, Peter Hopcroft via ntg-context  
wrote:




On 17/04/2024, at 7:11 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm  wrote:

In my poster (still WIP) I wrote:
…


Excellent


No, I must admit I don’t like the first two paragraphs. The question is “what 
is ConTeXt,” and the answer is “we’re not LaTeX.” And why “infamous”?
I agree. It sounds the same as "we're not msword" or "we're not google 
docs". (In the end the only thing that latex and context have in common 
is that they use the tex language / ecosystem.)


Hans

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[NTG-context] Re: Wiki - test/proposal to further clarify documentation

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

> On 16. Apr 2024, at 21:56, Peter Hopcroft via ntg-context 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 17/04/2024, at 7:11 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm  wrote:
>> 
>> In my poster (still WIP) I wrote:
>> …
> 
> Excellent

No, I must admit I don’t like the first two paragraphs. The question is “what 
is ConTeXt,” and the answer is “we’re not LaTeX.” And why “infamous”? 

Thomas

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[NTG-context] Re: Wiki - test/proposal to further clarify documentation

[Peter Hopcroft via ntg-context]

> On 17/04/2024, at 7:11 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm  wrote:
> 
> In my poster (still WIP) I wrote:
> …

Excellent 
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[NTG-context] Re: Wiki - test/proposal to further clarify documentation

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 14.04.24 um 21:45 schrieb Peter Hopcroft via ntg-context:

It would be great if the main page actually said what Context does.


In my poster (still WIP) I wrote:

start
---

The “infamous” alternative to LaTeX

While most designers use graphical tools, there are still areas where 
code-based typesetting systems are fun, make sense or are even superior. 
While LaTeX is the most known of these, ConTeXt is used by a growing 
minority of ambitioned enthusiasts around the world.


The small but active and creative community of ConTeXt users and 
developers is always driving TeX development over new frontiers:

NTS, MetaFun, Oriental TeX, LuaTeX, mplib, LuaMetaTeX…
They’re also dubbed the incisors (AKA cutting edge) of the dinosaur of 
Open Source.


ConTeXt is aimed at creative users, known for advanced features like 
extensive font control and direct XML processing, with a deep 
integration of Lua and MetaPost.


---

ConTeXt was invented in the 1990s by Hans Hagen and Ton Otten of the 
Dutch company “Pragma Advanced Document Engineering” for typesetting 
schoolbooks. Taco Hoekwater refactored the TeX source code to create 
LuaTeX which was further developed into LuaMetaTeX by Hans Hagen (and 
lately Mikael Sundqvist for refined math typography).


---

“To be fair, switching to the ConTeXt way of thinking and doing things 
was not an overnight process […]. But once I got used to it, I could not 
imagine going back to LaTeX. I’ll go even further and say that, in my 
view, ConTeXt is the future of TeX.

(Prof. Idris Samawi Hamid, 2009)
Source: www.tug.org/interviews/hamid.html

---

“ConTeXt is LaTeX done right. It is simple, flexible and powerful.”
(J. U. Hasecke on Mastodon, 2022)

---

Is ConTeXt for me?

If you want …
* to design your own layout
* best quality math typesetting
* to use Lua functions e.g. for processing data
* deep integration of a graphics language (MetaPost)
* to process XML input
* no package conflicts
* to use OpenType features
* consistent setup commands
* to place stuff on layers
* visual debugging features
* to have a lean, but mighty TeX system
* to typeset much faster than with LaTeX
* high quality Arabic typography
… then ConTeXt is for you!

---
stop

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[NTG-context] Re: Wiki - test/proposal to further clarify documentation

[Peter Hopcroft via ntg-context]

It would be great if the main page actually said what Context does. 

> On 15/04/2024, at 2:18 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm  wrote:
> 
> Hi Garulfo,
> 
> I’m not against the “new order”, but I’d keep the colorful subject tiles. 
> Different accesses are good IMO (as long as it doesn’t get to convoluted).
> 
> I’d say updating, sorting, restructuring pages is more important than a new 
> start page.
> 
> Yes, please sort out reference vs. tutorials!
> 
> Often examples make sense in the reference pages, so the distinction is a bit 
> fuzzy, but there are enough where a subject/tutorial page would make more 
> sense than examples spread over several single command pages.
> 
> We could also define if the “main” reference page (with examples) is 
> \definestuff, \setupstuff, or \stuff – IMO \setupstuff makes the most sense, 
> since usually the others inherit from it.
> 
> Often enough, parameters aren’t explained in the reference pages; sometimes 
> you can find examples using them, but there are too many holes. I tried to 
> fix that where I could, but too often I don’t understand enough of the 
> sources to make sense of some setting.
> 
> For wiki contributors, it might make sense to combine the markup pages – in 
> many pages e.g.  is used where  would make more 
> sense; often \starttext … \stoptext is not necessary and just blows up 
> examples; markup is generally somewhat chaotic (e.g. , , or ``?).
> 
> Hraban
> 
>> Am 14.04.24 um 13:21 schrieb garu...@azules.eu:
>> I just discover the Diátaxis documentation framework :
>> - https://www.diataxis.fr/
>> - 30min video : "What nobody tells you about documentation", 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4vKPhjcMZg  , from Daniele Procida at PyCon 
>> 2017
>> As I understand it, it can help both readers and writers of the 
>> documentation by clarifying the purpose of each element.
>> So I started a potential new "welcome page" :  
>> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page2
>> The main lines would be :
>> - Tutorials: installation pages, step by step examples
>> - How-to guides: most of the existing wiki pages which are not 
>> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Commands/ ...
>> - Discussions and manuals: most of the existing manuals
>> - Reference : the pages dedicated to commands which already include link to 
>> mailing list, stack exchange, ConTeXt's source
>>   - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Category:Commands
>>   - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Special:PrefixIndex?prefix=Command%2F
>> To match the logic of Diátaxis, maybe some material from command pages 
>> should be moved from "Reference" to "How-to guides",
>> for example, when the examples go beyond "pure description" and begin to 
>> deal with "how-to" cases, e.g. :
>> - Reference for setuphead: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setuphead
>> - How-to guides for headings: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Titles
>> If it make sense, and according to your feedbacks, I can continue to 
>> reallocate existing contents.
>> Thanks for your feedback and thoughts.
>> Garulfo
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[NTG-context] Re: Wiki - test/proposal to further clarify documentation

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Hi Garulfo,

I’m not against the “new order”, but I’d keep the colorful subject 
tiles. Different accesses are good IMO (as long as it doesn’t get to 
convoluted).


I’d say updating, sorting, restructuring pages is more important than a 
new start page.


Yes, please sort out reference vs. tutorials!

Often examples make sense in the reference pages, so the distinction is 
a bit fuzzy, but there are enough where a subject/tutorial page would 
make more sense than examples spread over several single command pages.


We could also define if the “main” reference page (with examples) is 
\definestuff, \setupstuff, or \stuff – IMO \setupstuff makes the most 
sense, since usually the others inherit from it.


Often enough, parameters aren’t explained in the reference pages; 
sometimes you can find examples using them, but there are too many 
holes. I tried to fix that where I could, but too often I don’t 
understand enough of the sources to make sense of some setting.


For wiki contributors, it might make sense to combine the markup pages – 
in many pages e.g.  is used where  would 
make more sense; often \starttext … \stoptext is not necessary and just 
blows up examples; markup is generally somewhat chaotic (e.g. , 
, or ``?).


Hraban

Am 14.04.24 um 13:21 schrieb garu...@azules.eu:

I just discover the Diátaxis documentation framework :
- https://www.diataxis.fr/
- 30min video : "What nobody tells you about documentation", 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4vKPhjcMZg  , from Daniele Procida at PyCon 2017

As I understand it, it can help both readers and writers of the documentation 
by clarifying the purpose of each element.

So I started a potential new "welcome page" :  
https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page2

The main lines would be :
- Tutorials: installation pages, step by step examples
- How-to guides: most of the existing wiki pages which are not 
https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Commands/ ...
- Discussions and manuals: most of the existing manuals
- Reference : the pages dedicated to commands which already include link to 
mailing list, stack exchange, ConTeXt's source
   - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Category:Commands
   - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Special:PrefixIndex?prefix=Command%2F

To match the logic of Diátaxis, maybe some material from command pages should be moved from 
"Reference" to "How-to guides",
for example, when the examples go beyond "pure description" and begin to deal with 
"how-to" cases, e.g. :
- Reference for setuphead: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setuphead
- How-to guides for headings: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Titles

If it make sense, and according to your feedbacks, I can continue to reallocate 
existing contents.

Thanks for your feedback and thoughts.
Garulfo
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[NTG-context] Wiki - test/proposal to further clarify documentation

[garulfo]

Hi all,

I just discover the Diátaxis documentation framework :
- https://www.diataxis.fr/
- 30min video : "What nobody tells you about documentation", 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4vKPhjcMZg  , from Daniele Procida at PyCon 
2017

As I understand it, it can help both readers and writers of the documentation 
by clarifying the purpose of each element.

So I started a potential new "welcome page" :  
https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page2

The main lines would be :
- Tutorials: installation pages, step by step examples
- How-to guides: most of the existing wiki pages which are not 
https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Commands/ ...
- Discussions and manuals: most of the existing manuals
- Reference : the pages dedicated to commands which already include link to 
mailing list, stack exchange, ConTeXt's source
  - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Category:Commands
  - https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Special:PrefixIndex?prefix=Command%2F

To match the logic of Diátaxis, maybe some material from command pages should 
be moved from "Reference" to "How-to guides",
for example, when the examples go beyond "pure description" and begin to deal 
with "how-to" cases, e.g. :
- Reference for setuphead: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setuphead
- How-to guides for headings: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Titles

If it make sense, and according to your feedbacks, I can continue to reallocate 
existing contents.

Thanks for your feedback and thoughts.
Garulfo
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[NTG-context] Re: After Compiling the Context test, there was no PDF.

[Hans Hagen]

On 1/24/2024 9:55 AM, Ursula Hermann wrote:

Dear List,

I am sorry, but once again me: I downloaded the last upload from Hans 
yesterday, I downloaded context-win64, and tried the test today .

you're using windows 32 so you need to use the 32 mswin installer

http://lmtx.pragma-ade.nl/install-lmtx/context-mswin.zip


-
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[NTG-context] Re: After Compiling the Context test, there was no PDF.

[Shiv Shankar Dayal]

On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 2:47 PM Ursula Hermann 
wrote:

> Yes,
>
> I always go to:
>
>
>
> pragma-ade.nl/install.htm
>
>
>
> I have Windows 10.
>

Dear Ursula,

I just downloaded and compiled the same file on Windows 11 64-bit and it
works. I got the PDF output.
I am not sure why it is not working for you.

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[NTG-context] Re: After Compiling the Context test, there was no PDF.

[Shiv Shankar Dayal]

Can you please give the link from where you downloaded it? I will test it
on my Windows because on Linux it is producing the PDF.

On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 2:29 PM Ursula Hermann 
wrote:

> Dear List,
>
>
>
> I am sorry, but once again me: I downloaded the last upload from Hans
> yesterday, I downloaded context-win64, and tried the test today .
>
>
>
> Here is the test:
>
> \starttext
>
>
>
> \startmode[mkiv]
>
>
>
> \startluacode
>
> tex.sprint("hello")
>
> \stopluacode
>
>
>
> \startMPcode
>
> draw textext("hello") rotated 45 ;
>
> \stopMPcode
>
>
>
> \framed{hello}
>
>
>
> \stopmode
>
>
>
> \startnotmode[mkiv]
>
>
>
> \startMPcode
>
> draw textext("hello") rotated -45 ;
>
> \stopMPcode
>
>
>
> \framed{hello}
>
>
>
> \stopnotmode
>
>
>
> \stoptext
>
>
>
> After compiling in the folder:
>
> Is this because I am the user?
>
>
>
> Command Line:   context.exe --synctex=-1 "context-test.tex"
>
> Startup Folder:
> C:\Users\Hermann\Downloads\context-win64\tex\texmf-context\tex\context\test\mkiv
>
>
>
> startup error : no format file given, quitting
>
>
>
> Uschi
>
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
>
>
> ConTeXt Compilation Report (Pages: 0)
>
>
>
> Errors: 0   Warnings: 0   Bad Boxes: 0
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Ursula Hermann
> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 16. Jänner 2024 15:33
> *An:* 'mailing list for ConTeXt users' 
> *Betreff:* AW: [NTG-context] Re: After Compiling the Context test, there
> was no PDF.
>
>
>
> Dear, Shiv Shankar Dayal,
>
>
>
>
>
> I have tried your example. Did not work.
>
>
>
> Uschi
>
> *Von:* Shiv Shankar Dayal 
> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 16. Jänner 2024 13:42
> *An:* mailing list for ConTeXt users 
> *Betreff:* [NTG-context] Re: After Compiling the Context test, there was
> no PDF.
>
>
>
> I just updated my ConTeXt distribution and it is working fine for me.
>
>
>
> Try processing the following file:
>
>
>
> \starttext
> \input knuth
> \stoptext
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 5:30 PM luigi scarso 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 at 12:49, Shiv Shankar Dayal <
> shivshankar.da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Please paste line no. 238 of your input file.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 4:11 PM Ursula Hermann <
> ursula.herm...@univie.ac.at> wrote:
>
> Dear List,
>
>
>
> After Compiling in the Folder:
>
>
>
> This is LuaMetaTeX, Version 2.10.11 initex
>
> (C:/Users/Hermann/Downloads/context-mswin/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkxl/cont-
> en.mkxl(context.mkxl(syst-ini.mkxl
> ! Undefined control sequence.
> 
>   \immutable\defcsname\tocharacter
>   \tabasciicode  \endcsname {\ } % \def\^^I{\ } tab
>
>
>
> maybe I am wrong, but this looks like an error of  syst-ini.mkxl
> around line 3238
>
> (I cannot update now )
>
>
>
> --
>
> luigi
>
>
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> Shiv Shankar Dayal
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[NTG-context] Re: After Compiling the Context test, there was no PDF.

[Ursula Hermann]

Dear List,

I am sorry, but once again me: I downloaded the last upload from Hans 
yesterday, I downloaded context-win64, and tried the test today .

Here is the test:
\starttext

\startmode[mkiv]

\startluacode
tex.sprint("hello")
\stopluacode

\startMPcode
draw textext("hello") rotated 45 ;
\stopMPcode

\framed{hello}

\stopmode

\startnotmode[mkiv]

\startMPcode
draw textext("hello") rotated -45 ;
\stopMPcode

\framed{hello}

\stopnotmode

\stoptext

After compiling in the folder:
Is this because I am the user?

Command Line:   context.exe --synctex=-1 "context-test.tex"
Startup Folder: 
C:\Users\Hermann\Downloads\context-win64\tex\texmf-context\tex\context\test\mkiv

startup error : no format file given, quitting

Uschi


_

ConTeXt Compilation Report (Pages: 0)

Errors: 0   Warnings: 0   Bad Boxes: 0





Von: Ursula Hermann
Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. Jänner 2024 15:33
An: 'mailing list for ConTeXt users' 
Betreff: AW: [NTG-context] Re: After Compiling the Context test, there was no 
PDF.

Dear, Shiv Shankar Dayal,


I have tried your example. Did not work.

Uschi
Von: Shiv Shankar Dayal 
mailto:shivshankar.da...@gmail.com>>
Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. Jänner 2024 13:42
An: mailing list for ConTeXt users 
mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>>
Betreff: [NTG-context] Re: After Compiling the Context test, there was no PDF.

I just updated my ConTeXt distribution and it is working fine for me.

Try processing the following file:

\starttext
\input knuth
\stoptext

On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 5:30 PM luigi scarso 
mailto:luigi.sca...@gmail.com>> wrote:


On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 at 12:49, Shiv Shankar Dayal 
mailto:shivshankar.da...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Please paste line no. 238 of your input file.

On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 4:11 PM Ursula Hermann 
mailto:ursula.herm...@univie.ac.at>> wrote:
Dear List,

After Compiling in the Folder:

This is LuaMetaTeX, Version 2.10.11 initex
(C:/Users/Hermann/Downloads/context-mswin/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkxl/cont-
en.mkxl(context.mkxl(syst-ini.mkxl
! Undefined control sequence.

  \immutable\defcsname\tocharacter
  \tabasciicode  \endcsname {\ } % \def\^^I{\ } tab

maybe I am wrong, but this looks like an error of  syst-ini.mkxl around line 
3238
(I cannot update now )

--
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[NTG-context] Re: After Compiling the Context test, there was no PDF.

[Shiv Shankar Dayal]

64-bit ConTeXt(or any other executable) won't work on 32-bit systems.

On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 6:49 PM Ursula Hermann 
wrote:

> Dear List,
>
>
>
> I have now another problem:
>
> I have downloaded context-win64. But the problem is now, that ConTeXt is
> not executable on WinEdt11, which is my TextEditor. It worked well with
> context-mswin. There was no problem. I found context.exe now on
> context-win64\text\texmf-win64\bin\context.exe, and have Windows 32 System
> at work.
>
> After trying to compile the test at work, I got in the Folder:
>
> Command Line:
> C:\Users\Hermann\Downloads\context-win64\text\texmf-win64\bin\context.exe
> --synctex=-1 "context-test.tex"
>
> Startup Folder:
> C:\Users\Hermann\Downloads\context-win64\tex\texmf-context\tex\context\test\mkiv
>
>
>
>
>
> Error Launching Console Application ConTeXt ...
>
> Command Line:
> C:\Users\Hermann\Downloads\context-win64\text\texmf-win64\bin\context.exe
> --synctex=-1 "context-test.tex"
>
> Startup Folder:
> C:\Users\Hermann\Downloads\context-win64\tex\texmf-context\tex\context\test\mkiv
>
>
>
> Das System kann die angegebene Datei nicht finden.
>
>
>
> What should I do?
>
>
>
> Uschi
>
>
>
> *Von:* Ursula Hermann
> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 16. Jänner 2024 15:33
> *An:* 'mailing list for ConTeXt users' 
> *Betreff:* AW: [NTG-context] Re: After Compiling the Context test, there
> was no PDF.
>
>
>
> Dear, Shiv Shankar Dayal,
>
>
>
>
>
> I have tried your example. Did not work.
>
>
>
> Uschi
>
> *Von:* Shiv Shankar Dayal 
> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 16. Jänner 2024 13:42
> *An:* mailing list for ConTeXt users 
> *Betreff:* [NTG-context] Re: After Compiling the Context test, there was
> no PDF.
>
>
>
> I just updated my ConTeXt distribution and it is working fine for me.
>
>
>
> Try processing the following file:
>
>
>
> \starttext
> \input knuth
> \stoptext
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 5:30 PM luigi scarso 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 at 12:49, Shiv Shankar Dayal <
> shivshankar.da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Please paste line no. 238 of your input file.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 4:11 PM Ursula Hermann <
> ursula.herm...@univie.ac.at> wrote:
>
> Dear List,
>
>
>
> After Compiling in the Folder:
>
>
>
> This is LuaMetaTeX, Version 2.10.11 initex
>
> (C:/Users/Hermann/Downloads/context-mswin/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkxl/cont-
> en.mkxl(context.mkxl(syst-ini.mkxl
> ! Undefined control sequence.
> 
>   \immutable\defcsname\tocharacter
>   \tabasciicode  \endcsname {\ } % \def\^^I{\ } tab
>
>
>
> maybe I am wrong, but this looks like an error of  syst-ini.mkxl
> around line 3238
>
> (I cannot update now )
>
>
>
> --
>
> luigi
>
>
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>
>
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>
> Shiv Shankar Dayal
>
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[NTG-context] Re: After Compiling the Context test, there was no PDF.

[Ursula Hermann]

Dear List, me once again.
Sorry forgot to say:
64-Bit-Betriebssystem, x64-basierter Prozessor

Uschi

Von: Ursula Hermann 
Gesendet: Montag, 22. Jänner 2024 14:16
An: mailing list for ConTeXt users 
Betreff: [NTG-context] Re: After Compiling the Context test, there was no PDF.

Dear List,

I have now another problem:
I have downloaded context-win64. But the problem is now, that ConTeXt is not 
executable on WinEdt11, which is my TextEditor. It worked well with 
context-mswin. There was no problem. I found context.exe now on 
context-win64\text\texmf-win64\bin\context.exe, and have Windows 32 System at 
work.
After trying to compile the test at work, I got in the Folder:
Command Line:   
C:\Users\Hermann\Downloads\context-win64\text\texmf-win64\bin\context.exe 
--synctex=-1 "context-test.tex"
Startup Folder: 
C:\Users\Hermann\Downloads\context-win64\tex\texmf-context\tex\context\test\mkiv


Error Launching Console Application ConTeXt ...
Command Line:   
C:\Users\Hermann\Downloads\context-win64\text\texmf-win64\bin\context.exe 
--synctex=-1 "context-test.tex"
Startup Folder: 
C:\Users\Hermann\Downloads\context-win64\tex\texmf-context\tex\context\test\mkiv

Das System kann die angegebene Datei nicht finden.

What should I do?

Uschi

Von: Ursula Hermann
Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. Jänner 2024 15:33
An: 'mailing list for ConTeXt users' 
mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>>
Betreff: AW: [NTG-context] Re: After Compiling the Context test, there was no 
PDF.

Dear, Shiv Shankar Dayal,


I have tried your example. Did not work.

Uschi
Von: Shiv Shankar Dayal 
mailto:shivshankar.da...@gmail.com>>
Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. Jänner 2024 13:42
An: mailing list for ConTeXt users 
mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>>
Betreff: [NTG-context] Re: After Compiling the Context test, there was no PDF.

I just updated my ConTeXt distribution and it is working fine for me.

Try processing the following file:

\starttext
\input knuth
\stoptext

On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 5:30 PM luigi scarso 
mailto:luigi.sca...@gmail.com>> wrote:


On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 at 12:49, Shiv Shankar Dayal 
mailto:shivshankar.da...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Please paste line no. 238 of your input file.

On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 4:11 PM Ursula Hermann 
mailto:ursula.herm...@univie.ac.at>> wrote:
Dear List,

After Compiling in the Folder:

This is LuaMetaTeX, Version 2.10.11 initex
(C:/Users/Hermann/Downloads/context-mswin/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkxl/cont-
en.mkxl(context.mkxl(syst-ini.mkxl
! Undefined control sequence.

  \immutable\defcsname\tocharacter
  \tabasciicode  \endcsname {\ } % \def\^^I{\ } tab

maybe I am wrong, but this looks like an error of  syst-ini.mkxl around line 
3238
(I cannot update now )

--
luigi
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[NTG-context] Re: After Compiling the Context test, there was no PDF.

[Ursula Hermann]

Dear List,

I have now another problem:
I have downloaded context-win64. But the problem is now, that ConTeXt is not 
executable on WinEdt11, which is my TextEditor. It worked well with 
context-mswin. There was no problem. I found context.exe now on 
context-win64\text\texmf-win64\bin\context.exe, and have Windows 32 System at 
work.
After trying to compile the test at work, I got in the Folder:
Command Line:   
C:\Users\Hermann\Downloads\context-win64\text\texmf-win64\bin\context.exe 
--synctex=-1 "context-test.tex"
Startup Folder: 
C:\Users\Hermann\Downloads\context-win64\tex\texmf-context\tex\context\test\mkiv


Error Launching Console Application ConTeXt ...
Command Line:   
C:\Users\Hermann\Downloads\context-win64\text\texmf-win64\bin\context.exe 
--synctex=-1 "context-test.tex"
Startup Folder: 
C:\Users\Hermann\Downloads\context-win64\tex\texmf-context\tex\context\test\mkiv

Das System kann die angegebene Datei nicht finden.

What should I do?

Uschi

Von: Ursula Hermann
Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. Jänner 2024 15:33
An: 'mailing list for ConTeXt users' 
Betreff: AW: [NTG-context] Re: After Compiling the Context test, there was no 
PDF.

Dear, Shiv Shankar Dayal,


I have tried your example. Did not work.

Uschi
Von: Shiv Shankar Dayal 
mailto:shivshankar.da...@gmail.com>>
Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. Jänner 2024 13:42
An: mailing list for ConTeXt users 
mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>>
Betreff: [NTG-context] Re: After Compiling the Context test, there was no PDF.

I just updated my ConTeXt distribution and it is working fine for me.

Try processing the following file:

\starttext
\input knuth
\stoptext

On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 5:30 PM luigi scarso 
mailto:luigi.sca...@gmail.com>> wrote:


On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 at 12:49, Shiv Shankar Dayal 
mailto:shivshankar.da...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Please paste line no. 238 of your input file.

On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 4:11 PM Ursula Hermann 
mailto:ursula.herm...@univie.ac.at>> wrote:
Dear List,

After Compiling in the Folder:

This is LuaMetaTeX, Version 2.10.11 initex
(C:/Users/Hermann/Downloads/context-mswin/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkxl/cont-
en.mkxl(context.mkxl(syst-ini.mkxl
! Undefined control sequence.

  \immutable\defcsname\tocharacter
  \tabasciicode  \endcsname {\ } % \def\^^I{\ } tab

maybe I am wrong, but this looks like an error of  syst-ini.mkxl around line 
3238
(I cannot update now )

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[NTG-context] Re: After Compiling the Context test, there was no PDF.

[Ursula Hermann]

Dear, Shiv Shankar Dayal,


I have tried your example. Did not work.

Uschi
Von: Shiv Shankar Dayal 
Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. Jänner 2024 13:42
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Betreff: [NTG-context] Re: After Compiling the Context test, there was no PDF.

I just updated my ConTeXt distribution and it is working fine for me.

Try processing the following file:

\starttext
\input knuth
\stoptext

On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 5:30 PM luigi scarso 
mailto:luigi.sca...@gmail.com>> wrote:


On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 at 12:49, Shiv Shankar Dayal 
mailto:shivshankar.da...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Please paste line no. 238 of your input file.

On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 4:11 PM Ursula Hermann 
mailto:ursula.herm...@univie.ac.at>> wrote:
Dear List,

After Compiling in the Folder:

This is LuaMetaTeX, Version 2.10.11 initex
(C:/Users/Hermann/Downloads/context-mswin/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkxl/cont-
en.mkxl(context.mkxl(syst-ini.mkxl
! Undefined control sequence.

  \immutable\defcsname\tocharacter
  \tabasciicode  \endcsname {\ } % \def\^^I{\ } tab

maybe I am wrong, but this looks like an error of  syst-ini.mkxl around line 
3238
(I cannot update now )

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[NTG-context] Re: After Compiling the Context test, there was no PDF.

[Shiv Shankar Dayal]

I just updated my ConTeXt distribution and it is working fine for me.

Try processing the following file:

\starttext
\input knuth
\stoptext

On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 5:30 PM luigi scarso  wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 at 12:49, Shiv Shankar Dayal <
> shivshankar.da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Please paste line no. 238 of your input file.
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 4:11 PM Ursula Hermann <
>> ursula.herm...@univie.ac.at> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear List,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> After Compiling in the Folder:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This is LuaMetaTeX, Version 2.10.11 initex
>>>
>>> (C:/Users/Hermann/Downloads/context-mswin/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkxl/cont-
>>> en.mkxl(context.mkxl(syst-ini.mkxl
>>> ! Undefined control sequence.
>>> 
>>>   \immutable\defcsname\tocharacter
>>>   \tabasciicode  \endcsname {\ } % \def\^^I{\ } tab
>>>
>>
> maybe I am wrong, but this looks like an error of  syst-ini.mkxl
> around line 3238
> (I cannot update now )
>
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[NTG-context] Re: After Compiling the Context test, there was no PDF.

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On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 at 12:49, Shiv Shankar Dayal <
shivshankar.da...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Please paste line no. 238 of your input file.
>
> On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 4:11 PM Ursula Hermann <
> ursula.herm...@univie.ac.at> wrote:
>
>> Dear List,
>>
>>
>>
>> After Compiling in the Folder:
>>
>>
>>
>> This is LuaMetaTeX, Version 2.10.11 initex
>>
>> (C:/Users/Hermann/Downloads/context-mswin/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkxl/cont-
>> en.mkxl(context.mkxl(syst-ini.mkxl
>> ! Undefined control sequence.
>> 
>>   \immutable\defcsname\tocharacter
>>   \tabasciicode  \endcsname {\ } % \def\^^I{\ } tab
>>
>
maybe I am wrong, but this looks like an error of  syst-ini.mkxl
around line 3238
(I cannot update now )

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[NTG-context] Re: After Compiling the Context test, there was no PDF.

[Shiv Shankar Dayal]

Please paste line no. 238 of your input file.

On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 4:11 PM Ursula Hermann 
wrote:

> Dear List,
>
>
>
> After Compiling in the Folder:
>
>
>
> This is LuaMetaTeX, Version 2.10.11 initex
>
> (C:/Users/Hermann/Downloads/context-mswin/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkxl/cont-
> en.mkxl(context.mkxl(syst-ini.mkxl
> ! Undefined control sequence.
> 
>   \immutable\defcsname\tocharacter
>   \tabasciicode  \endcsname {\ } % \def\^^I{\ } tab
>
>
> ! Missing \endcsname inserted.
> 
>
>
>
> I wanted also do a new installation of ConTeXt LMTX, but if I want to do
> it, the is a report, that the page cannot be found.
>
>
>
> Many thanks
>
> Uschi
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[NTG-context] After Compiling the Context test, there was no PDF.

[Ursula Hermann]

Dear List,

After Compiling in the Folder:

This is LuaMetaTeX, Version 2.10.11 initex
(C:/Users/Hermann/Downloads/context-mswin/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkxl/cont-
en.mkxl(context.mkxl(syst-ini.mkxl
! Undefined control sequence.

  \immutable\defcsname\tocharacter
  \tabasciicode  \endcsname {\ } % \def\^^I{\ } tab


! Missing \endcsname inserted.


I wanted also do a new installation of ConTeXt LMTX, but if I want to do it, 
the is a report, that the page cannot be found.

Many thanks
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Re: [NTG-context] Help test a LMTX bug fix: tweaks in PDF generation

[Gerion Entrup via ntg-context]

Am Sonntag, 9. Oktober 2022, 17:33:09 CEST schrieb Leah Neukirchen via 
ntg-context:
> So please: Try to preview and then try to print the attached PDF;
> and report back if either preview or printout does not look like
> the attached reference PNG image (i.e. something is missing,
> the fonts look different, or have wrong relative size.)

Okular, MuPDF and pdf.js (Firefox) on Linux look fine.
Gimp and Krita also look fine (but I think they are both using poppler).
LibreOffice Draw does not (font sizes are wrong). However, this is not directly 
a PDF viewer, so I'm pretty sure it can be ignored.

Best,
Gerion




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Re: [NTG-context] Help test a LMTX bug fix: tweaks in PDF generation

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On 10/9/22 17:33, Leah Neukirchen via ntg-context wrote:
> [...]
> So please: Try to preview and then try to print the attached PDF;
> and report back if either preview or printout does not look like
> the attached reference PNG image (i.e. something is missing,
> the fonts look different, or have wrong relative size.)

Hi Leah,

I used Acrobat DC, SumatraPDF and Firefox in Windows and all programs
displayed and printed your document fine (Canon imageRUNNER ADVANCE).

I had no issues before printing LMTX-generated documents.

Many thanks for your work fixing the issues (wrong font display and
printing with some printers),

Pablo

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Re: [NTG-context] Help test a LMTX bug fix: tweaks in PDF generation

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Win 11 64 Intel, Sumatra PDF 3.4.6 to Brother MFC-L2740DW looks good.

Win 11 64 Intel, Sumatra PDF 3.4.6 to HP LJPro M254dw looks good.

Printing via Firefox, as others have noted, is fuzzy, but nothing is 
missing.


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Re: [NTG-context] Help test a LMTX bug fix: tweaks in PDF generation

[Willi Egger via ntg-context]

I printed the file with a HP Officejet 7740 through Wifi from a MacBook Air 
(old form 2013). - The PDF-reader is Skim.  ConTeXt Version 2022.09.11 20:44 — 
There is a perfect print. 

Willi

> On 10 Oct 2022, at 11:24, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context 
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> 
> Am 10.10.22 um 10:50 schrieb Keith McKay via ntg-context:
>> Hi,
>> I printed the file from my Apple mac mini M1 wirelessly to my HP Color 
>> LaserJet MFP M283fdw from Thunderbird, Adobe Acrobat DC, Skim and Texshop. 
>> The latter three were essentially identical and clear but that from 
>> Thunderbird was fuzzy and not as sharp as the others.
> 
> The latter is because Thunderbird uses pdf.js, and that prints PDFs as images 
> (rasterized in a low resolution), as Leah confirmed my guess.
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Re: [NTG-context] Help test a LMTX bug fix: tweaks in PDF generation

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Am 10.10.22 um 10:50 schrieb Keith McKay via ntg-context:

Hi,

I printed the file from my Apple mac mini M1 wirelessly to my HP Color 
LaserJet MFP M283fdw from Thunderbird, Adobe Acrobat DC, Skim and 
Texshop. The latter three were essentially identical and clear but that 
from Thunderbird was fuzzy and not as sharp as the others.


The latter is because Thunderbird uses pdf.js, and that prints PDFs as 
images (rasterized in a low resolution), as Leah confirmed my guess.


Hraban

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Re: [NTG-context] Help test a LMTX bug fix: tweaks in PDF generation

[Keith McKay via ntg-context]

Hi,

I printed the file from my Apple mac mini M1 wirelessly to my HP Color 
LaserJet MFP M283fdw from Thunderbird, Adobe Acrobat DC, Skim and 
Texshop. The latter three were essentially identical and clear but that 
from Thunderbird was fuzzy and not as sharp as the others.


Best Wishes

Keith McKay

On 09/10/2022 16:33, Leah Neukirchen via ntg-context wrote:

Hi,

last week we had a long thread about non-printing PDF on this list and
together with Hans I tracked down the issue and we found a fix.
Since it changes some details of how PDFs are generated by LMTX, we'd
like to test this change first on a wide range of software and
printers.

So please: Try to preview and then try to print the attached PDF;
and report back if either preview or printout does not look like
the attached reference PNG image (i.e. something is missing,
the fonts look different, or have wrong relative size.)

If you use other PDF tools in your workflow, please also check they
continue to work as before (and just as well as with MKIV-generated PDFs).


Thank you very much,

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Re: [NTG-context] Help test a LMTX bug fix: tweaks in PDF generation

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Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context  writes:

> Am 09.10.22 um 17:33 schrieb Leah Neukirchen via ntg-context:
>> Hi,
>> last week we had a long thread about non-printing PDF on this list
>> and
>> together with Hans I tracked down the issue and we found a fix.
>> Since it changes some details of how PDFs are generated by LMTX, we'd
>> like to test this change first on a wide range of software and
>> printers.
>> So please: Try to preview and then try to print the attached PDF;
>> and report back if either preview or printout does not look like
>> the attached reference PNG image (i.e. something is missing,
>> the fonts look different, or have wrong relative size.)
>> If you use other PDF tools in your workflow, please also check they
>> continue to work as before (and just as well as with MKIV-generated PDFs).
>
> Hi Leah, thank you!
>
> I viewed and printed the PDF with pdf.js in Thunderbird, Apple Preview
> and Adobe Acrobat Pro 9 to my Kyocera FS-C5100DN color laserprinter
> via KPDL (PS-compatible) driver.
> I don’t see any font problems, but neither text nor the bar are 100%
> black – is this intentional? Doesn’t look like RGB black, there are no
> other colors involved except in the printout from pdf.js.

Should be all black (CMYK black), but we didn't change this.
Picking from the screenshot I get #00 on Linux with evince, mupdf,
pdf.js.

> pdf.js seems to print as image and blurs the outlines. (I never tried
> to print from pdf.js before, is this normal?)

Yes, unfortunately.  But not related to our changes.

> Hraban

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Re: [NTG-context] Help test a LMTX bug fix: tweaks in PDF generation

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Am 09.10.22 um 17:33 schrieb Leah Neukirchen via ntg-context:

Hi,

last week we had a long thread about non-printing PDF on this list and
together with Hans I tracked down the issue and we found a fix.
Since it changes some details of how PDFs are generated by LMTX, we'd
like to test this change first on a wide range of software and
printers.

So please: Try to preview and then try to print the attached PDF;
and report back if either preview or printout does not look like
the attached reference PNG image (i.e. something is missing,
the fonts look different, or have wrong relative size.)

If you use other PDF tools in your workflow, please also check they
continue to work as before (and just as well as with MKIV-generated PDFs).


Hi Leah, thank you!

I viewed and printed the PDF with pdf.js in Thunderbird, Apple Preview 
and Adobe Acrobat Pro 9 to my Kyocera FS-C5100DN color laserprinter via 
KPDL (PS-compatible) driver.
I don’t see any font problems, but neither text nor the bar are 100% 
black – is this intentional? Doesn’t look like RGB black, there are no 
other colors involved except in the printout from pdf.js.


pdf.js seems to print as image and blurs the outlines. (I never tried to 
print from pdf.js before, is this normal?)


Hraban
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[NTG-context] Help test a LMTX bug fix: tweaks in PDF generation

[Leah Neukirchen via ntg-context]

Hi,

last week we had a long thread about non-printing PDF on this list and
together with Hans I tracked down the issue and we found a fix.
Since it changes some details of how PDFs are generated by LMTX, we'd
like to test this change first on a wide range of software and
printers.

So please: Try to preview and then try to print the attached PDF;
and report back if either preview or printout does not look like
the attached reference PNG image (i.e. something is missing,
the fonts look different, or have wrong relative size.)

If you use other PDF tools in your workflow, please also check they
continue to work as before (and just as well as with MKIV-generated PDFs).



fontmatrixtest.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document

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Re: [NTG-context] After Compiling the Test, which usualy works perfect

[Hans Hagen via ntg-context]

On 3/8/2022 4:08 PM, Ursula Hermann via ntg-context wrote:

Dear Hans,
Thank you for your answer. So what should I do?

probably set the your path ... then run mtxrun --generate and try again

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] After Compiling the Test, which usualy works perfect

[Ursula Hermann via ntg-context]

Dear Hans,
Thank you for your answer. So what should I do? 
Uschi

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On 3/8/2022 3:35 PM, Ursula Hermann via ntg-context wrote:
> Dear List,
> 
> I have Windows 10, and WinEdt 10.3., actual verison.
> 
> I wanted to do the test, but only I got this, after compiling:
> 
> Command Line:   C:\texlive\2021\bin\win32\context.exe --synctex=-1 
> "context-test.tex"
> 
> Startup Folder: 
> C:\Users\Hermann\Downloads\cont-tmf\tex\context\test\mkiv
> 
> mtxrun  | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'
did you mix texlive with the lmtx install?


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Re: [NTG-context] After Compiling the Test, which usualy works perfect

[Hans Hagen via ntg-context]

On 3/8/2022 3:35 PM, Ursula Hermann via ntg-context wrote:

Dear List,

I have Windows 10, and WinEdt 10.3., actual verison.

I wanted to do the test, but only I got this, after compiling:

Command Line:   C:\texlive\2021\bin\win32\context.exe --synctex=-1 
"context-test.tex"


Startup Folder: C:\Users\Hermann\Downloads\cont-tmf\tex\context\test\mkiv

mtxrun  | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'

did you mix texlive with the lmtx install?


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[NTG-context] After Compiling the Test, which usualy works perfect

[Ursula Hermann via ntg-context]

Dear List,

I have Windows 10, and WinEdt 10.3., actual verison.

I wanted to do the test, but only I got this, after compiling:

Command Line:   C:\texlive\2021\bin\win32\context.exe --synctex=-1 
"context-test.tex"
Startup Folder: C:\Users\Hermann\Downloads\cont-tmf\tex\context\test\mkiv

mtxrun  | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'


_

ConTeXt Compilation Report (Pages: 0)

Errors: 0   Warnings: 0   Bad Boxes: 0

What is wrong here?
Uschi Hermann
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Re: [NTG-context] TEST criticus apparatus with line numbering in footnotes

[Jean-Pierre Delange via ntg-context]

The numbering of lines works fine on MacOS High Sierra and on Linux x64: 
under linux x64 my CTX version is current version: 2020.01.30 and for 
MacOS : 2021.12.30.


Now, I have to play in order to get a two columns of different texts 
with a critical apparatus in footnotes on the basis of this code 
(I've enriched the didascalies for people who are fresh beginners):



\mainlanguage[la] % Définition du latin comme langue principale du 
document/Latin as main language.


\setupbodyfontenvironment[default][em=italic]

\setuplayout[header=2cm, footer=2cm] % Paramétrage de la page;

\setuplinenumbering[step=5] % La sortie PDF comportera une numérotation 
des lignes de 5 en 5; on peut régler de 1 à 10/Ruling linenumbering from 
1 to 10.


\setupnotations[alternative=serried] % On définit le caractère 
séquentiel des notes/ Definethe sequential mode of the notes.


\definelinenote[aNote] % Plusieurs manières d'afficher les notes ici, 
notamment en une ou en plusieurs colonnes (n=2, ou n=3)/Several ways to 
display the notes here, especially in one or more columns (n ​​= 2, or n 
= 3)


\definelinenote[bNote][n=2]

\definelinenote[cNote][n=3]

\definelinenote[dNote][paragraph=yes] % Les notes se suivent sur la même 
ligne/this option allow notes following on the same line .


\def\ANote#1#2{#1\aNote{#1] #2}}

\def\BNote#1#2{#1\bNote{#1] #2}}

\def\CNote#1#2{#1\cNote{#1] #2}}

\def\DNote#1#2{#1\dNote{#1] #2}}

\setupbodyfont[palatino, 7.8pt]

\starttext

\startlanguage[fr] % On indique à ConTeXt que l'on veut ici du texte en 
français (ou 'en' pour l'anglais)/We tell ConTeXt that we want text here 
in French (or 'en' for English/It is not the same as the \fallback command.


{\em Définir un apparat critique et le mettre en page avec un traitement 
de texte courant est un véritable casse-tête. \type{LaTeX} et 
\type{ConTeXt} offrent des outils d'automatisation encore assez mal 
connus dans la communauté des éditeurs, notamment dans l'édition 
savante, pour la collation et la comparaison de textes médiévaux}.\par


\stoplanguage

\startlinenumbering

\dorecurse{6}% À utiliser seulement pour répéter le paragraphe suivant, 
ici 6 fois/use thiscommand only to repeat the next paragraph, here 6 times.


{Cum defensionum \CNote{laboribus}{première note} senatoriisque

muneribus aut omnino aut magna ex parte essem aliquando liberatus,

rettuli me, Brute, te hortante maxime ad ea studia, quae retenta

animo, remissa temporibus, longo intervallo intermissa revocavi, et

cum omnium artium, quae ad rectam vivendi viam pertinerent,

\ANote{ratio}{seconde note} et disciplina studio sapientiae, quae

philosophia dicitur, contineretur, hoc mihi Latinis litteris

\DNote{inlustrandum}{troisième note} putavi, non quia

\BNote{philosophia}{quatrième note} Graecis et litteris et doctoribus

percipi non posset, sed meum semper iudicium fuit omnia nostros aut

invenisse per se sapientius quam Graecos aut accepta ab illis

fecisse meliora, quae quidem digna statuissent, in quibus

elaborarent.\par}

\stoplinenumbering

\stoptext

Le 06/01/2022 à 17:56, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context a écrit :

On 1/6/22 2:09 PM, Jean-Pierre Delange via ntg-context wrote:

I’ve tested the attached file on MacOS (High Sierra) . See the
result in PDF : the numbering of notes appears as « ? ».

Jean-Pierre,

your code contains "\start\fr" with no matching "\stop".

I wonder whether "\startlanguage[fr] ... \stoplanguage" would be more
readable.


The same file works fine under Linux.

Line numbering couldn’t be solved by ConTeXt (I’m on Linux 64bit).

I hope it helps,

Pablo

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Re: [NTG-context] TEST criticus apparatus

[Jean-Pierre Delange via ntg-context]

Thank you Pablo : it works fine on MACOS either !

> Le 6 janv. 2022 à 17:56, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context  
> a écrit :
> 
> 

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Re: [NTG-context] TEST criticus apparatus

[Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context]

On 1/6/22 2:09 PM, Jean-Pierre Delange via ntg-context wrote:
> I’ve tested the attached file on MacOS (High Sierra) . See the
> result in PDF : the numbering of notes appears as « ? ».

Jean-Pierre,

your code contains "\start\fr" with no matching "\stop".

I wonder whether "\startlanguage[fr] ... \stoplanguage" would be more
readable.

> The same file works fine under Linux.
Line numbering couldn’t be solved by ConTeXt (I’m on Linux 64bit).

I hope it helps,

Pablo
 % Le script suivant nécessite différents tests avec une manipulation des paramètres, afin de préciser ce qui convient le mieux à votre travail d'édition. Ce script offre le schéma de plusieurs possibilités d'affichage des notes en bas de page avec diverses possibilités simultanées. On peut affiner encore,en ajoutant d'autres commandes stipulant les marges, les en-têtes, le numéro des pages, etc.
 \mainlanguage[la] % Définition du latin comme langue principale du document.
 \setupbodyfontenvironment[default][em=italic]
 \setuplayout[header=2cm, footer=2cm] % Paramétrage de la page;
 \setuplinenumbering[step=2] % La sortie PDF comportera une numérotation de 5 en 5; on peut régler sur 1 (ou 10).
 \setupnotations[alternative=serried] % On définit le caractère séquentiel des notes.
 \definelinenote[aNote] % Plusieurs manières d'afficher les notes ici, notamment en une ou en plusieurs colonnes (n=2, ou n=3).
 \definelinenote[bNote][n=2]
 \definelinenote[cNote][n=3]
 \definelinenote[dNote][paragraph=yes] % Les notes se suivent sur la même ligne.
 \def\ANote#1#2{#1\aNote{#1] #2}}
 \def\BNote#1#2{#1\bNote{#1] #2}}
 \def\CNote#1#2{#1\cNote{#1] #2}}
 \def\DNote#1#2{#1\dNote{#1] #2}}
 \setupbodyfont[palatino, 7.8pt]
 \starttext
 \startlanguage[fr]
  % On indique à ConTeXt que l'on veut ici du texte en français (ou 'en' pour l'anglais).
{\em Définir un apparat critique et le mettre en page avec un traitement de texte courant est un véritable casse-tête. \type{LaTeX} et \type{ConTeXt} offrent des outils d'automatisation encore assez mal connus dans la communauté des éditeurs, notamment dans l'édition savante, pour la collation et la comparaison de textes médiévaux}.
\stoplanguage

 \startlinenumbering
 \dorecurse{6}% À utiliser seulement pour répéter le paragraphe suivant, ici 8 fois.
{Cum defensionum \CNote{laboribus}{première note} senatoriisque
muneribus aut omnino aut magna ex parte essem aliquando liberatus,
rettuli me, Brute, te hortante maxime ad ea studia, quae retenta
animo, remissa temporibus, longo intervallo intermissa revocavi, et
cum omnium artium, quae ad rectam vivendi viam pertinerent,
\ANote{ratio}{seconde note} et disciplina studio sapientiae, quae
philosophia dicitur, contineretur, hoc mihi Latinis litteris
\DNote{inlustrandum}{troisième note} putavi, non quia
\BNote{philosophia}{quatrième note} Graecis et litteris et doctoribus
percipi non posset, sed meum semper iudicium fuit omnia nostros aut
invenisse per se sapientius quam Graecos aut accepta ab illis
fecisse meliora, quae quidem digna statuissent, in quibus
elaborarent.\par}
 \stoplinenumbering
 \stoptext
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[NTG-context] TEST criticus apparatus

[Jean-Pierre Delange via ntg-context]

I’ve tested the attached file on MacOS (High Sierra) . See the result in PDF : 
the numbering of notes appears as « ? ». The same file works fineunder Linux.

ConTeXt_Test_FooteNote-ComplexMedieval.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document




ConTeXt_Test_FooteNote-ComplexMedieval.log
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ConTeXt_Test_FooteNote-ComplexMedieval.pdf
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ConTeXt_Test_FooteNote-ComplexMedieval.tex
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Re: [NTG-context] Test suite fonts/features-005.tex failing for me

[Hans Hagen via ntg-context]

On 10/3/2021 1:41 AM, Bruce Horrocks via ntg-context wrote:

In the test suite, the file fonts/features-005.tex is failing for me on latest 
lmtx. All three items appear the same each time i.e. no small caps and no 
old-style digits on the second and third.

<http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/latest/cont-tst.zip>

Can anyone else reproduce this, please?

shoul dbe:

What \recursedepth\recurselevel\space
\feature[+]{smallcaps}
What \recursedepth\recurselevel\space
\feature[+]{oldstyle}
What \recursedepth\recurselevel\space



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[NTG-context] Test suite fonts/features-005.tex failing for me

[Bruce Horrocks via ntg-context]

In the test suite, the file fonts/features-005.tex is failing for me on latest 
lmtx. All three items appear the same each time i.e. no small caps and no 
old-style digits on the second and third.

<http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/latest/cont-tst.zip>

Can anyone else reproduce this, please?
—
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Hampshire, UK

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Re: [NTG-context] Test for displaying a header

[Wolfgang Schuster via ntg-context]

Fabrice,

there is difference between putting something on the first page 
regardless of the number of pages in your document or do something when 
your document contains only a single or more pages.



When you have a header or title which is always placed on the first page 
(but not on the following pages) you have to options.


    1. Check the current page when to header is placed which can be 
done with \doif{\pagenumber}{1}{...}


    2. Disable the header on the first page (\setupheader[state=high]) 
and place your own title as a regular element in the running text.



A case where you have to number the number of total pages is when you 
try to show the page counter in the form "Page x of y" for 2 or more 
pages. In this case you have to check against the value for the total 
number of pages which can be done with 
\doifnot{\totalnumberofpages}{1}{...}.



Below are two examples which show how the header/title placement works.

 start example 1
\startsetups [header]
    \startframed [width=max,height=max]
    First page header
    \stopframed
\stopsetups

\startsetups [footer]
    Page \userpagenumber\ of \lastuserpagenumber
\stopsetups

\setupheadertexts
  [\doif{\pagenumber}{1}{\directsetup{header}}]

\setupfootertexts
  [\doifnot{\totalnumberofpages}{1}{\directsetup{footer}}]

\starttext
\dorecurse{12}{\samplefile{lorem}\par}
\stoptext
 stop example 1

 start example 2
\startsetups [header]
    \setupheader[state=high]
    \startframed [width=max,height=3cm]
    First page header
    \stopframed
    \blank
\stopsetups

\startsetups [footer]
    Page \userpagenumber\ of \lastuserpagenumber
\stopsetups

\setuppagenumbering
  [location=none]

\setupfootertexts
  [\doifnot{\totalnumberofpages}{1}{\directsetup{footer}}]

\starttext

\setup[header]

\dorecurse{12}{\samplefile{lorem}\par}

\stoptext
 stop example 2

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] Test for displaying a header

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Fabrice Couvreur schrieb am 27.08.2021 um 10:04:

Hi Wolfgang,
This may not be nicest but seems to work
Fabrice

%%

\definelayout
[1]
  [header=10mm]

\setuplayout
  [header=0pt,
 height=middle]

\setuppagenumbering
[alternative=doublesided,location=]

\setupbackgrounds
[header]
  [text]
  [frame=off,bottomframe=on,
 framecolor=lightgray,rulethickness=1pt]

\startsetups[header]
\doifelse{\totalnumberofpages}{1}
    {\setuplayout[1]}
{\setuplayout[reset]}
\stopsetups


\starttext
\input knuth
%\dorecurse{10}{\input knuth\par}
\stoptext


I have no idea what you try to achieve but the check for the number of 
pages in your document is never used. The layout on the first page is 
different from the following pages but this is just how \definelayout 
work when you use a number as first argument.



What you have to understand is that a setups-environment is just a macro 
definition where you provide the names as argument to the start command. 
This means


    \startsetups [header]
    ...
    \stopsetups

works the same way as

    \def\internalname_header
      {...}

but you have to use

    \setups [header]

rather than

    \internalname_header

to get the content of the environment.


Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] Test for displaying a header

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Fabrice Couvreur via ntg-context schrieb am 26.08.2021 um 19:06:

Hi,

Using this (almost what I'm trying to do) without success

[...]

\startsetups[header]
\doifelse{\totalnumberofpages}{1}
{\setupheadertexts[\setups{header}]}
    {}
\stopsetups


This stores the page check in the setups environment  but you never call 
it. The call from within the environment itself can't work because the 
content is never evaluated and even if it would be called you create an 
endless loop.


Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] Test for displaying a header

[Fabrice Couvreur via ntg-context]

Hi,
Using this (but it's not exactly what I want) it works

test-1.tex %%

\setuppagenumbering
  [alternative=doublesided,location=]

\definelayout
  [1]
  [header=10mm]

\setuplayout
  [header=0pt,
   height=middle]

\setupbackgrounds
   [header]
   [text]
   [frame=off,bottomframe=on,
 framecolor=lightgray,rulethickness=1pt]


\starttext
\dorecurse{5}{\samplefile{lorem}}
%\dorecurse{1}{\samplefile{lorem}}
\stoptext

%%ù

Using this (almost what I'm trying to do) without success

test-2.tex %
\setuppagenumbering
  [alternative=doublesided,location=]

\setupbackgrounds
  [header]
  [text]
  [frame=off,bottomframe=on,
   framecolor=lightgray,rulethickness=1pt]

\startsetups[header]
  \doifelse{\totalnumberofpages}{1}
{\setupheadertexts[\setups{header}]}
{}
\stopsetups


\starttext
\dorecurse{5}{\samplefile{lorem}}
%\dorecurse{1}{\samplefile[lorem]r}
\stoptext

%%%

Fabrice


Le jeu. 26 août 2021 à 17:56, Wolfgang Schuster via ntg-context <
ntg-context@ntg.nl> a écrit :

> Taco Hoekwater via ntg-context schrieb am 26.08.2021 um 16:34:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> >> On 26 Aug 2021, at 16:07, Fabrice Couvreur via ntg-context <
> ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >> I know I asked the question a few years ago, but I don't remember !
> >> The idea is to test whether the document contains only one page or not.
> >
> > Perhaps not the nicest solution, but this works:
> >
> > \doifvalueelse
> >{\lastpage}
> >{1}
> >{\message{true}}
> >{\message{false}}
>
>
> Same solution but better counter name:
>
> \doifelse{\totalnumberofpages}{1}{...}{...}
>
> Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Test for displaying a header

[Wolfgang Schuster via ntg-context]

Taco Hoekwater via ntg-context schrieb am 26.08.2021 um 16:34:


Hi,


On 26 Aug 2021, at 16:07, Fabrice Couvreur via ntg-context  
wrote:

Hi,
I know I asked the question a few years ago, but I don't remember !
The idea is to test whether the document contains only one page or not.


Perhaps not the nicest solution, but this works:

\doifvalueelse
   {\lastpage}
   {1}
   {\message{true}}
   {\message{false}}



Same solution but better counter name:

\doifelse{\totalnumberofpages}{1}{...}{...}

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Test for displaying a header

[Taco Hoekwater via ntg-context]

Hi,

> On 26 Aug 2021, at 16:07, Fabrice Couvreur via ntg-context 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> I know I asked the question a few years ago, but I don't remember ! 
> The idea is to test whether the document contains only one page or not. 

Perhaps not the nicest solution, but this works:

\doifvalueelse
  {\lastpage}
  {1}
  {\message{true}}
  {\message{false}}

> If it contains only one page, the header is enabled. 
> If it contains several pages, the header is enabled only on the first page 
> but not on the others. 
> Thanks
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[NTG-context] Test for displaying a header

[Fabrice Couvreur via ntg-context]

Hi,
I know I asked the question a few years ago, but I don't remember !
The idea is to test whether the document contains only one page or not.
If it contains only one page, the header is enabled.
If it contains several pages, the header is enabled only on the first page
but not on the others.
Thanks
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[NTG-context] [error] web-server font-test fails

[Floris van Manen]

while trying out the embedded web-server, choosing the fonttest will
fail and cause the server to crash


$ mtxrun --script server --auto
mtx-server  | running at port: 8088
mtx-server  | document root:
/home/vm/data/context/tex/texmf-context/scripts/context/lua
mtx-server  | main index file: unknown
mtx-server  | scripts subpath:
/home/vm/data/context/tex/texmf-context/scripts/context/lua
mtx-server  | context services:
http://localhost:8088/mtx-server-ctx-startup.lua
mtx-server  | request from: 127.0.0.1
mtx-server  | request data: GET /mtx-server-ctx-startup.lua HTTP/1.1
mtx-server  | requested url: /mtx-server-ctx-startup.lua
mtx-server  | requested action: /mtx-server-ctx-startup.lua
mtx-server  | performing action: /mtx-server-ctx-startup.lua
mtx-server  | locating script:
/home/vm/data/context/tex/texmf-context/scripts/context/lua/mtx-server-ctx-startup.lua
mtx-server  | loading script:
/home/vm/data/context/tex/texmf-context/scripts/context/lua/mtx-server-ctx-startup.lua
mtx-server  | return type: function
mtx-server  | saving script: function
mtx-server  | running script:
/home/vm/data/context/tex/texmf-context/scripts/context/lua/mtx-server-ctx-startup.lua
mtx-server  | request from: 127.0.0.1
mtx-server  | request data: GET /favicon.ico HTTP/1.1
mtx-server  | requested url: /favicon.ico
mtx-server  | requested action: /favicon.ico
mtx-server  | performing action: /favicon.ico
mtx-server  | requested file: /favicon.ico
mtx-server  | unknown file: /favicon.ico
mtx-server  | handling error 404: Not Found
mtx-server  | request from: 127.0.0.1
mtx-server  | request data: GET /mtx-server-ctx-fonttest.lua HTTP/1.1
mtx-server  | requested url: /mtx-server-ctx-fonttest.lua
mtx-server  | requested action: /mtx-server-ctx-fonttest.lua
mtx-server  | performing action: /mtx-server-ctx-fonttest.lua
mtx-server  | locating script:
/home/vm/data/context/tex/texmf-context/scripts/context/lua/mtx-server-ctx-fonttest.lua
mtx-server  | loading script:
/home/vm/data/context/tex/texmf-context/scripts/context/lua/mtx-server-ctx-fonttest.lua
mtx-server  | return type: function
lua error :
...ext/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/font-hsh.lua:12: attempt
to index a nil value (global 'font')


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Description: application/pgp-keys
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Re: [NTG-context] Test XML node registration

[Hans Hagen]

On 5/17/2019 10:28 AM, Hans van der Meer wrote:

Having a series of nodes in setups in a helper module:
\startxmlsetups xmlcommon:setups
\xmlsetsetup{#1}{error|comment|... etcetera}{xmlcommon:*}
\stopxmlsetups
\xmlregistersetup{xmlcommon:setups}

I would like to check if a certain node is in that series of nodes. For 
example doing \doifelse{\xmltag{#1}}... where the true branch is taken 
when \xmltag{#1} is one of those registered in the xmlcommon:setups.


Is that possible? Then what macro has to be called?

there is no such information


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[NTG-context] Test XML node registration

[Hans van der Meer]

Having a series of nodes in setups in a helper module:
\startxmlsetups xmlcommon:setups
\xmlsetsetup{#1}{error|comment|... etcetera}{xmlcommon:*}
\stopxmlsetups
\xmlregistersetup{xmlcommon:setups}

I would like to check if a certain node is in that series of nodes. For example 
doing \doifelse{\xmltag{#1}}... where the true branch is taken when \xmltag{#1} 
is one of those registered in the xmlcommon:setups.

Is that possible? Then what macro has to be called?

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Re: [NTG-context] test-suite wiki page

[Sanjoy Mahajan]

On 2019-02-01 17:57, Taco Hoekwater  wrote:

> Yes, foundry.supelec.fr is officially dead now (and that project with
> it)

>> 2. I did find the (a?) test suite on the PRAGMA site at
>>   <http://www.pragma-ade.nl/download-1.htm> as a 7zip file.  Is that
>>   the correct location to point people to (apologies for the awful
>>   construction of that sentence)?
>
> Better is to link to the actual file on Pragma’s site.

Thanks -- these points are now reflected in the
<https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Test_suite> page.

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Re: [NTG-context] test-suite wiki page

[Taco Hoekwater]

Hi,

> Op 1 feb. 2019 om 17:09 heeft Sanjoy Mahajan  het volgende 
> geschreven:
> 
> In another thread, Hans had pointed me to the examples of blocks in the
> test suite.  That leads to my following two questions before I revise
> the associated wiki page:
> 
> 1. The wiki page about the test suite
>   <https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Test_suite> contains dead links 

Yes, foundry.supelec.fr is officially dead now (and that project with it)

> 2. I did find the (a?) test suite on the PRAGMA site at
>   <http://www.pragma-ade.nl/download-1.htm> as a 7zip file.  Is that
>   the correct location to point people to (apologies for the awful
>   construction of that sentence)?

Better is to link to the actual file on Pragma’s site. Hans sometimes changes 
the content of the .htm files, but the file itself (in fact most files on 
pragma-ade.com) has had that same location for a very long time now.

Best wishes,
Taco

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[NTG-context] test-suite wiki page

[Sanjoy Mahajan]

In another thread, Hans had pointed me to the examples of blocks in the
test suite.  That leads to my following two questions before I revise
the associated wiki page:

1. The wiki page about the test suite
   <https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Test_suite> contains dead links to
   <https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contexttest> for the project
   homepage and to <https://foundry.supelec.fr/mail/?group_id=21> for
   the mailing list.

   Are those now officially dead; or, more directly stated, would there
   be any objections if I clean up that wiki page to remove those dead
   links?

2. I did find the (a?) test suite on the PRAGMA site at
   <http://www.pragma-ade.nl/download-1.htm> as a 7zip file.  Is that
   the correct location to point people to (apologies for the awful
   construction of that sentence)?

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[NTG-context] TEST

[Willi Egger]

Hello, sorry for this mail, this is a test for my new provider.

Happy TeXing!

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Re: [NTG-context] Odd/even page test

[Procházka Lukáš Ing .]

Hello Pablo,

that's it, thank you!

Lukas


On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 17:58:04 +0200, Pablo Rodriguez  wrote:


On 10/16/18 4:25 PM, Procházka Lukáš Ing. wrote:

Hello,

I need to check whether even or odd page is to be printed. I'm starting with 
the following simple code:


\def\T{\ifodd\pagenumber ODD\else EVEN\fi}

\starttext
   \dorecurse{2}{\T\page}
   \startTEXpage[width=50mm,height=150mm]\stopTEXpage
   \dorecurse{2}{\T\page}
\stoptext



Hi Lukáš,

both makeups and fitting pages aren’t numbered by default.

Either you add this to the preamble:

  \setupfittingpage[TEXpage][pagestate=start]

or you add the option "pagestate=start" to \startTEXpage.

I hope it helps,

Pablo



Why "user defined page" #3 is skipped in page numbering, so headers shown are:
1 - 2 - (nothing) - 3 - 4 and "ODD"/"EVEN" and text is "ODD" - "EVEN" - (nothing) - 
"ODD" - "EVEN"
instead of:
1 - 2 - (nothing) - 4 - 5 and "ODD"/"EVEN" and text be "ODD" - "EVEN" - (nothing) - 
"EVEN" - "ODD"?

TIA.

Best regards,

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Re: [NTG-context] Odd/even page test

[Pablo Rodriguez]

On 10/16/18 4:25 PM, Procházka Lukáš Ing. wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I need to check whether even or odd page is to be printed. I'm starting with 
> the following simple code:
> 
> 
> \def\T{\ifodd\pagenumber ODD\else EVEN\fi}
> 
> \starttext
>\dorecurse{2}{\T\page}
>\startTEXpage[width=50mm,height=150mm]\stopTEXpage
>\dorecurse{2}{\T\page}
> \stoptext
> 

Hi Lukáš,

both makeups and fitting pages aren’t numbered by default.

Either you add this to the preamble:

  \setupfittingpage[TEXpage][pagestate=start]

or you add the option "pagestate=start" to \startTEXpage.

I hope it helps,

Pablo


> Why "user defined page" #3 is skipped in page numbering, so headers shown are:
>   1 - 2 - (nothing) - 3 - 4 and "ODD"/"EVEN" and text is "ODD" - "EVEN" - 
> (nothing) - "ODD" - "EVEN"
> instead of:
>   1 - 2 - (nothing) - 4 - 5 and "ODD"/"EVEN" and text be "ODD" - "EVEN" - 
> (nothing) - "EVEN" - "ODD"?
> 
> TIA.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Lukas
> 
> 
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[NTG-context] Odd/even page test

[Procházka Lukáš Ing .]

Hello,

I need to check whether even or odd page is to be printed. I'm starting with 
the following simple code:


\def\T{\ifodd\pagenumber ODD\else EVEN\fi}

\starttext
  \dorecurse{2}{\T\page}
  \startTEXpage[width=50mm,height=150mm]\stopTEXpage
  \dorecurse{2}{\T\page}
\stoptext


Why "user defined page" #3 is skipped in page numbering, so headers shown are:
1 - 2 - (nothing) - 3 - 4 and "ODD"/"EVEN" and text is "ODD" - "EVEN" - (nothing) - 
"ODD" - "EVEN"
instead of:
1 - 2 - (nothing) - 4 - 5 and "ODD"/"EVEN" and text be "ODD" - "EVEN" - (nothing) - 
"EVEN" - "ODD"?

TIA.

Best regards,

Lukas


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Re: [NTG-context] test on front/body/backmatter

[Hans Hagen]

On 7/14/2017 10:42 AM, Meer, Hans van der wrote:

Is there a test usable in a macro to determine if one is inside frontmatter, 
bodymatter, backmatter?

\starttext

\startfrontmatter

\doifelsemode{*frontpart}{yes}{no}
\doifelsemode{*backpart} {yes}{no}

\stopfrontmatter

\startbackmatter

\doifelsemode{*frontpart}{yes}{no}
\doifelsemode{*backpart} {yes}{no}

\stopbackmatter

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[NTG-context] test on front/body/backmatter

[Meer, Hans van der]

Is there a test usable in a macro to determine if one is inside frontmatter, 
bodymatter, backmatter?

Hans van der Meer




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Re: [NTG-context] Test Suite Fonts "extensions-001"

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Thomas Fehige <mailto:tho...@fehige.de>
29. April 2016 um 10:38

Below is a minimal not-working example extracted from 
"extensions-001.tex" in the fonts section of the test suite. From what 
I understand of the code, the second line should read "XPrXcXdXPrX" 
instead of "abracadabra". But it doesn't, it is still "abracadabra". 
Compiling the original extensions-001 gives me seven lines of 
"abracadabra". What am I doing wrong? I'm running ConTeXt version 
2015.05.18 12:26 MKIV current fmt: 2016.4.28 from the debian/ubuntu 
texlive packets.



You need a newer context version.

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[NTG-context] Test Suite Fonts "extensions-001"

[Thomas Fehige]

Below is a minimal not-working example extracted from 
"extensions-001.tex" in the fonts section of the test suite. From what I 
understand of the code, the second line should read "XPrXcXdXPrX" 
instead of "abracadabra". But it doesn't, it is still "abracadabra". 
Compiling the original extensions-001 gives me seven lines of 
"abracadabra". What am I doing wrong? I'm running ConTeXt version 
2015.05.18 12:26 MKIV current fmt: 2016.4.28 from the debian/ubuntu 
texlive packets.


\startluacode

fonts.handlers.otf.addfeature {

name = "stest",

type = "substitution",

data = {

a = "X",

b = "P",

}

}

\stopluacode

\definefontfeature[stest][stest=yes]

\starttext

\startTEXpage

\definedfont[file:DejaVuSerif.ttf*default]%

abracadabra\par

{\addff{stest}abracadabra\par}

\stopTEXpage

\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] How to test which is current "mainlanguage"?

[Lukáš Procházka]

... Great, thank you! Lukas


On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 11:52:46 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster 
 wrote:


Lukáš Procházka 
31. Dezember 2015 um 11:07
Hello,

how to detect which language set by \mainlanguage[xy] is active?
How to detect it by a) ConTeXt and b) Lua?

Something like:

\mainlanguage[cz]

\ifmainlanguage{cz}
  Do someting
\fi

and

if context.languages.active() == "cz" then
  -- Do somthing
end

You can use the modes mechanism for this because you can use ** to
check for the main language (set by \mainlanguage) and * for the
current language (set by \language).

\mainlanguage[cs]
%\language[en]

\starttext

\doifelsemode{**cs}{The main language is Czech.}{The main language is
“\currentmainlanguage”.}

\startluacode
if tex.modes["**cs"] then
 context("The main language is Czech.")
else
 context("The main language is “\\currentmainlanguage”.")
end
\stopluacode

\blank

\doifelsemode{*cs}{The current language is Czech.}{The current language
is “\currentlanguage”.}

\startluacode
if tex.modes["*cs"] then
 context("The current language is Czech.")
else
 context("The current language is “\\currentlanguage”.")
end
\stopluacode

\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] How to test which is current "mainlanguage"?

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Lukáš Procházka 
31. Dezember 2015 um 11:07
Hello,

how to detect which language set by \mainlanguage[xy] is active?
How to detect it by a) ConTeXt and b) Lua?

Something like:

\mainlanguage[cz]

\ifmainlanguage{cz}
  Do someting
\fi

and

if context.languages.active() == "cz" then
  -- Do somthing
end
You can use the modes mechanism for this because you can use ** to 
check for the main language (set by \mainlanguage) and * for the 
current language (set by \language).


\mainlanguage[cs]
%\language[en]

\starttext

\doifelsemode{**cs}{The main language is Czech.}{The main language is 
“\currentmainlanguage”.}


\startluacode
if tex.modes["**cs"] then
context("The main language is Czech.")
else
context("The main language is “\\currentmainlanguage”.")
end
\stopluacode

\blank

\doifelsemode{*cs}{The current language is Czech.}{The current language 
is “\currentlanguage”.}


\startluacode
if tex.modes["*cs"] then
context("The current language is Czech.")
else
context("The current language is “\\currentlanguage”.")
end
\stopluacode

\stoptext

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[NTG-context] How to test which is current "mainlanguage"?

[Lukáš Procházka]

Hello,

how to detect which language set by \mainlanguage[xy] is active?
How to detect it by a) ConTeXt and b) Lua?

Something like:

\mainlanguage[cz]

\ifmainlanguage{cz}
  Do someting
\fi

and

if context.languages.active() == "cz" then
  -- Do somthing
end

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[NTG-context] test for new page

[Alan BRASLAU]

Can someone indicate how one can easily test for a new page in a list
environment (or, indeed, anywhere else)?

In one implementation of a listing, repeated sequential items or
elements of items are suppressed, but I would like to repeat them when
they occur at the top of a new page. I imagine that there could be an
easy test for a new page or the text line number.

Thanks, in advance, for any hints.

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Re: [NTG-context] test for new page

[Hans Hagen]

On 4/12/2015 10:42 AM, Alan BRASLAU wrote:

Can someone indicate how one can easily test for a new page in a list
environment (or, indeed, anywhere else)?

In one implementation of a listing, repeated sequential items or
elements of items are suppressed, but I would like to repeat them when
they occur at the top of a new page. I imagine that there could be an
easy test for a new page or the text line number.


sometimes this info is available in the low level data so it depends 
where you use it for


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[NTG-context] Two errors in test file.

[john Culleton]

Here is the test file:
--
\definefontfamily [myfamily][serif][MinionPro Serif]
\definefontfamily [myfamily][sans][MyriadPro Sans]
\definefontfamily [myfamily][italic][MinionPro Italic]
\setupbodyfont[myfamily]
\starttext
\rm
foo
\startitemize[a]
\item  {\bf Inkscape}
\item  Scribus
\item  Gimp
\stopitemize
\stoptext
---
First, nothing prints.
Second, if I say 
\startitemize[1]
I get an error on the first \item line.
I suspect that the default font doesn't have the
big dot character.

The system variable OSFONTDIR points
to /usr/share/fonts

Obviously there is something that I am missing
in the font definitions.
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Re: [NTG-context] Two errors in test file.

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 09.09.2014 um 21:18 schrieb john Culleton j...@wexfordpress.com:

 Here is the test file:
 --
 \definefontfamily [myfamily][serif][MinionPro Serif]
 \definefontfamily [myfamily][sans][MyriadPro Sans]
 \definefontfamily [myfamily][italic][MinionPro Italic]
 \setupbodyfont[myfamily]
 \starttext
 \rm
 foo
 \startitemize[a]
 \item  {\bf Inkscape}
 \item  Scribus
 \item  Gimp
 \stopitemize
 \stoptext
 ---
 First, nothing prints.
 Second, if I say 
 \startitemize[1]
 I get an error on the first \item line.
 I suspect that the default font doesn't have the
 big dot character.
 
 The system variable OSFONTDIR points
 to /usr/share/fonts
 
 Obviously there is something that I am missing
 in the font definitions.

All of your three font definitions are wrong because

1. There is only a font with the name “Minion Pro” but no “Minion Pro Serif”.

2. There is only a “Myriad Pro” font but no “Minion Pro Sans” font.

3. The “italic” in the style of the third definition is wrong because italic is 
a font alternative. When an unknown value is used for the style the command 
uses serif as fallback and therefore overwrites the first line which sets the 
serif style as well.


The following example uses the right names (which I used also in the answers of 
your previous questions) for both fonts.

\definefontfamily [myfamily] [serif] [Minion Pro]
\definefontfamily [myfamily] [sans]  [Myriad Pro]

\setupbodyfont[myfamily]

\starttext
\startitemize[a]
\item  {\bf Inkscape}
\item  Scribus
\item  Gimp
\stopitemize
\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] How to test the emptyness of a variable?

[Géry Ogam]

Thank you very much Aditya, now it works.

As you said, the trick was to use \doiftextelse{}{}{} function as test of
emptyness function, and \labeltext{chapter} instead of
\currentstructurelabel as variable for the test because the latter was
never found empty, even when it was.

Thus the right code for me is:

\define[1]
\MyConversion{\doifelse{\currentsectioncountervalue}{1}{\doiftextelse{\labeltext{chapter}}{ONE}{#1}}{#1}}
\defineconversion[MyConversion][\MyConversion]
\setuphead[chapter][conversion=MyConversion]

\starttext

\setuplabeltext[chapter=]
\chapter{Cool}
\chapter{Cat}
\chapter{Mouse}

\setuplabeltext[chapter=CHAPTER~]
\setupheadnumber[chapter][0]
\chapter{Cool}
\chapter{Cat}
\chapter{Mouse}

\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] How to test the emptyness of a variable?

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Thu, 7 Nov 2013, Géry Ogam wrote:


I'm sure there is also a cleaner TeX way, but I'm not experienced

enough for that.

I think you misunderstood my issue: your Lua way does the same thing than
my TeX way: it displays:

ONE Cool
2 Cat
3 Mouse

but that is NOT what I want. What I want is:

1 Cool
2 Cat
3 Mouse

So I need to check if the chapter label has been set empty or not by the
user, because it is not empty (let's say the user chose the string
CHAPTER~ for the chapter label) I want to display this:

CHAPTER ONE Cool
CHAPTER 2 Cat
CHAPTER 3 Mouse



The way to do that is to check if the variable \currentstructurelabel is
empty, so the code must be:


Why not just check the labeltext?

  \define[1]\MyConversion
  {\doifelse{#1}{1}{ONE}{#1}}

  \define\CheckedConversion % #1 number
  {\doiftextelse{\labeltexts{chapter}}\MyConversion\numbers}

  \defineconversion[CheckedConversion][\CheckedConversion]

  \setuphead[chapter][conversion=CheckedConversion]

  \doifmode{label}{\setuplabeltext[chapter=CHAPTER~]}
  \starttext
\chapter{Cool}
\chapter{Cat}
\chapter{Mouse}
  \stoptext


compile with and without --mode=label.


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Re: [NTG-context] How to test the emptyness of a variable?

[Procházka Lukáš Ing . - Pontex s . r . o .]

Hello,

Lua way:


\setuplabeltext[chapter=]

\define[1]\MyCommand{\ctxcommand{doifelse(1==\currentsectioncountervalue)}{ONE}{#1}}

\setuphead[chapter][deepnumbercommand=\MyCommand]

\starttext
  \chapter{Cool}
  \chapter{Cat}
  \chapter{Mouse}
\stoptext


I'm sure there is also a cleaner TeX way, but I'm not experienced enough for 
that.

Cheers,

Lukas


On Tue, 05 Nov 2013 22:56:54 +0100, Géry Ogam maggy...@gmail.com wrote:


Any idea for achieving this behaviour?

- When there is a chapter label (\setuplabeltext[chapter=CHAPTER~]), display
:

CHAPTER ONE Cool
CHAPTER 2 Cat
CHAPTER 3 Mouse
etc.

- When there is no chapter label (\setuplabeltext[chapter=]), display:

1 Cool
2 Cat
3 Mouse
etc.


My try achieves the first display, but not the second one since I don’t
know how to test the emptyness of the chapter label. When I remove the
chapter label, it displays:

ONE Cool
2 Cat
3 Mouse

 instead of:

1 Cool
2 Cat
3 Mouse


My code:

\setuplabeltext[chapter=CHAPTER~]
\define[1] \MyCommand{\doifelse{\currentsectioncountervalue}{1}{ONE}{#1}}
\setuphead[chapter][deepnumbercommand=\MyCommand]

\starttext

\chapter{Cool}
\chapter{Cat}
\chapter{Mouse}

\stoptext




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[NTG-context] How to test the emptyness of a variable?

[Géry Ogam]

 I'm sure there is also a cleaner TeX way, but I'm not experienced
enough for that.

I think you misunderstood my issue: your Lua way does the same thing than
my TeX way: it displays:

ONE Cool
2 Cat
3 Mouse

but that is NOT what I want. What I want is:

1 Cool
2 Cat
3 Mouse

So I need to check if the chapter label has been set empty or not by the
user, because it is not empty (let's say the user chose the string
CHAPTER~ for the chapter label) I want to display this:

CHAPTER ONE Cool
CHAPTER 2 Cat
CHAPTER 3 Mouse

The way to do that is to check if the variable \currentstructurelabel is
empty, so the code must be:

\define[1]
\MyCommand{\doifelse{\currentsectioncountervalue}{1}{\doifnotemptyelse{\currentstructurelabel}{ONE}{#1}}{#1}}
\setuphead[chapter][deepnumbercommand=\MyCommand]

\starttext
\setuplabeltext[chapter=CHAPTER~]
\chapter{Cool}
\chapter{Cat}
\chapter{Mouse}
\stoptext

\starttext
\setuplabeltext[chapter=]
\chapter{Cool}
\chapter{Cat}
\chapter{Mouse}
\stoptext

But the problem is that in the second case, even if the chapter label is
set empty the command \doifnotemptyelse{\currentstructurelabel} thinks the
variable \currentstructurelabel is not empty. So there must be something
invisible in it, like a strut or something.
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Re: [NTG-context] How to test the emptyness of a variable?

[Hans Hagen]

On 11/5/2013 12:42 AM, Géry Ogam wrote:

Hello,


How to test if the current structure label is empty? The following
example does not work because I don’t know how to expand the variable
\currentstructurelabel..

E.g.:

\define \MyCommand{\doifempty{\currentstructurelabel}{Do something}}


you can try

\doifnothing\currentstructurelabel{Do something}




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[NTG-context] How to test the emptyness of a variable?

[Géry Ogam]

 you can try

 \doifnothing\currentstructurelabel{Do something}


It does not work in my case (even if the currenstructurelabel is empty it
acts as if it not empty). In fact I asked that to get the following
behaviour:

— When there is a chapter label (\setuplabeltext[chapter=CHAPTER~]) I want
that:

CHAPTER ONE Cool
CHAPTER 2 Cat
CHAPTER 3 Mouse
etc.

— When there is no chapter label (\setuplabeltext[chapter=]) I want that:

1 Cool
2 Cat
3 Mouse
etc.


E.g.:

\setuplabeltext[chapter=CHAPTER~]
\define[1] \MyCommand{\doifelse{\currentsectioncountervalue}{1}{ONE}{#1}}
\setuphead[chapter][deepnumbercommand=\MyCommand]

\starttext

\chapter{Cool}
\chapter{Cat}
\chapter{Mouse}

\stoptext
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[NTG-context] How to test the emptyness of a variable?

[Géry Ogam]

Any idea for achieving this behaviour?

- When there is a chapter label (\setuplabeltext[chapter=CHAPTER~]), display
:

CHAPTER ONE Cool
CHAPTER 2 Cat
CHAPTER 3 Mouse
etc.

- When there is no chapter label (\setuplabeltext[chapter=]), display:

1 Cool
2 Cat
3 Mouse
etc.


My try achieves the first display, but not the second one since I don’t
know how to test the emptyness of the chapter label. When I remove the
chapter label, it displays:

ONE Cool
2 Cat
3 Mouse

 instead of:

1 Cool
2 Cat
3 Mouse


My code:

\setuplabeltext[chapter=CHAPTER~]
\define[1] \MyCommand{\doifelse{\currentsectioncountervalue}{1}{ONE}{#1}}
\setuphead[chapter][deepnumbercommand=\MyCommand]

\starttext

\chapter{Cool}
\chapter{Cat}
\chapter{Mouse}

\stoptext
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[NTG-context] How to test the emptyness of a variable?

[Géry Ogam]

Hello,


How to test if the current structure label is empty? The following example
does not work because I don’t know how to expand the variable
\currentstructurelabel.

E.g.:

\define \MyCommand{\doifempty{\currentstructurelabel}{Do something}}


Best regards.
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Re: [NTG-context] What is the status of ConTeXt's various test suites?

[Sietse Brouwer]

On 25 June 2013 11:49, Procházka Lukáš Ing. - Pontex s. r. o.
l...@pontex.cz wrote:
 here are my scripts I'm using to test Ctx.

Thanks, Lukáš! Also thanks for the explanation of what files go where,
and what to run --- that's very helpful. I hope to be able to play
with this soon, and then add what I learn to the wiki.

All the best,
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Re: [NTG-context] What is the status of ConTeXt's various test suites?

[Sietse Brouwer]

Hi Lukáš,

On 6/10/2013 12:59 PM, Sietse Brouwer wrote:
 There appear to be a number of test suites in existence.
 (1) The suite on pragma-ade.com. I suspect this is the one Hans actually
 uses.
 http://www.pragma-ade.com/download-1.htm (click on cont-tst.7z)

 QUESTION: when one downloads and unzips this file in a directory, how
 does one run it?

On 10 June 2013 13:11, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:
 Lukáš has his own scripts.

 Here I can run this:

 mtxrun --script testsuite --compare --oldname=cld-compare-old 
 --newname=cld-compare-new   --pattern=**/*.cld
 mtxrun --script testsuite --compare --oldname=mkiv-compare-old 
 --newname=mkiv-compare-mkiv --pattern=**/*.mkiv
 mtxrun --script testsuite --compare --oldname=mkvi-compare-old 
 --newname=mkvi-compare-mkiv --pattern=**/*.mkvi
 mtxrun --script testsuite --compare --oldname=tex-compare-old 
 --newname=tex-compare-new   --pattern=**/*.tex

I tried running this, but mtxrun complains that the script `testsuite`
doesn't exist.
Lukáš, what script do you use to run the test suite?

Cheers,
Sietse
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[NTG-context] Test example for problem

[hwitloc]

The context docment below shows two anomalies.
 One is the occurrane of the unknown font latinmodernmath-regular, loading 
aborted and
 two is that the compilation process halts on the first 'D' in the word Dutch, 
and no item bullet is typeset.  The line \setmainfont[ipaexm]  seems to cause 
this irregular result.

 -- Example document --

\usemodule[simplefonts]
\setmainfont[ipaexm]

\definesymbol[5][$\diamond$]

\starttext

  世界、今日は!

\startitemize[5]
   \item  Dutch in English
\stopitemize

\stoptext

 -- end example --

 -- START REPORT --
mtx-context | run 1: luatex 
--fmt=/usr/local/texlive/2012/texmf-var/luatex-cache/context/210a96fef5fbab446fd11afa77acb026/formats/cont-en
 
--lua=/usr/local/texlive/2012/texmf-var/luatex-cache/context/210a96fef5fbab446fd11afa77acb026/formats/cont-en.lui
 --backend=pdf ./test.tex \stoptext
This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.70.2-2012062812 (TeX Live 2012)
 \write18 enabled.
(test.tex

ConTeXt  ver: 2012.05.30 11:26 MKIV  fmt: 2013.3.17  int: english/english

system   cont-new.mkiv loaded
(/usr/local/texlive/2012/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/cont-new.mkiv
system   beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.mkiv
)
system   test.top loaded
(test.top)
fontslatin modern fonts are not preloaded
languageslanguage en is active
resolversmodules  loaded: 'simplefonts'
(/usr/local/texlive/2012/texmf-dist/tex/context/third/simplefonts/t-simplefonts.mkiv
loading  ConTeXt User Module / Simplefonts
+ 
/usr/local/texlive/2012/texmf-dist/tex/context/third/simplefonts/t-simplefonts.lua)
fontstypescripts  unknown: library 'loc'
{/usr/local/texlive/2012/texmf-dist/fonts/map/dvips/lm/lm-math.map}{/usr/local/texlive/2012/texmf-dist/fonts/map/dvips/lm/lm-rm.map}{/usr/local/texlive/2012/texmf-dist/fonts/map/pdftex/context/mkiv-base.map}
fontsdefining  forced type otf of latinmodernmath-regular not 
found
fontsdefining  font with asked name 'latinmodernmath-regular' is 
not found using lookup 'file'
fontsdefining  unknown font latinmodernmath-regular, loading 
aborted
fontsdefining  unable to define latinmodernmath-regular.otf as 
[simplefonts:1-12pt-mm-mr--3]
fontsdefining  forced type otf of latinmodernmath-regular not 
found
fontsdefining  font with asked name 'latinmodernmath-regular' is 
not found using lookup 'file'
fontsdefining  unknown font latinmodernmath-regular, loading 
aborted
fontsdefining  unable to define latinmodernmath-regular.otf as 
[simplefonts:1-12pt-mm-mr--2]
fontsdefining  forced type otf of latinmodernmath-regular not 
found
fontsdefining  font with asked name 'latinmodernmath-regular' is 
not found using lookup 'file'
fontsdefining  unknown font latinmodernmath-regular, loading 
aborted
fontsdefining  unable to define latinmodernmath-regular.otf as 
[simplefonts:1-12pt-mm-mr--1]
fontsdefining  forced type otf of latinmodernmath-regular not 
found
fontsdefining  font with asked name 'latinmodernmath-regular' is 
not found using lookup 'file'
fontsdefining  unknown font latinmodernmath-regular, loading 
aborted
fontsdefining  unable to define latinmodernmath-regular.otf as 
[simplefonts:1-12pt-mm-mb--3]
fontsdefining  forced type otf of latinmodernmath-regular not 
found
fontsdefining  font with asked name 'latinmodernmath-regular' is 
not found using lookup 'file'
fontsdefining  unknown font latinmodernmath-regular, loading 
aborted
fontsdefining  unable to define latinmodernmath-regular.otf as 
[simplefonts:1-12pt-mm-mb--2]
fontsdefining  forced type otf of latinmodernmath-regular not 
found
fontsdefining  font with asked name 'latinmodernmath-regular' is 
not found using lookup 'file'
fontsdefining  unknown font latinmodernmath-regular, loading 
aborted
fontsdefining  unable to define latinmodernmath-regular.otf as 
[simplefonts:1-12pt-mm-mb--1]
fontsmath: unset for global bodyfont simplefonts:1 at 12pt
! Math error: parameter \Umathquad\displaystyle is not set.

system   tex  error on line 11 in file test.tex: Math error: 
parameter \Umathquad\displaystyle is not set ...

 1 \usemodule[simplefonts]
 2 \setmainfont[ipaexm]
 3
 4 \definesymbol[5][$\diamond$]
 5
 6 \starttext
 7
 8   世界、今日は!
 9
10 \startitemize[5]
11  \item  Dutch in English
12 \stopitemize
13
14 \stoptext
15


\47:5 -$\diamond $

\symb_place_indeed ...name \??symbol #1\endcsname
  \relax \endgroup
\symb_place_retry ...name \symb_place_indeed {:#1}
  \else #1\fi
\symb_place_normal_c ...lace_retry \currentsymbol
  \fi
\symb_place_normal_b 

[NTG-context] What is the status of ConTeXt's various test suites?

[Sietse Brouwer]

Hi, all,

There appear to be a number of test suites in existence.

(1) The suite on pragma-ade.com. I suspect this is the one Hans actually uses.
http://www.pragma-ade.com/download-1.htm (click on cont-tst.7z)

(2) The project on foundry.supelec.fr. Most recent file is 3 years
old, and most of them are 6-7 years old, AFAICT.
Summary: https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contexttest/
Files: https://foundry.supelec.fr/scm/viewvc.php/?root=contexttest
This is also the suite described on http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Test_suite

(3) The ConTeXt unofficial test suite
https://github.com/melmothx/context-unofficial-test-suite

I want to update the [[Test suite]] page to make it more accurate. So,
I'm asking y'all: any inaccuracies in the text at the bottom of this
e-mail?

Cheers,
Sietse


* The test suite at pragma-ade.com is Hans's test suite; he runs this
suite before uploading a new beta (most times). To contribute a test
to this suite, write it in an e-mail and send it to the mailing list.

QUESTION: when one downloads and unzips this file in a directory, how
does one run it?

* The test suite at github is managed by users, especially Marco
Patzer. To run the suite, just download it and run `run-suite.pl`.

* The test suite at foundry.supelec.fr is no longer being used.

QUESTION: are the tests in it already transferred to Hans or Marco's
test suite? If not, is that still something we want to do, or can we
just bury this suite entirely?
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Re: [NTG-context] What is the status of ConTeXt's various test suites?

[Hans Hagen]

On 6/10/2013 12:59 PM, Sietse Brouwer wrote:

Hi, all,

There appear to be a number of test suites in existence.

(1) The suite on pragma-ade.com. I suspect this is the one Hans actually uses.
http://www.pragma-ade.com/download-1.htm (click on cont-tst.7z)

(2) The project on foundry.supelec.fr. Most recent file is 3 years
old, and most of them are 6-7 years old, AFAICT.
Summary: https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contexttest/
Files: https://foundry.supelec.fr/scm/viewvc.php/?root=contexttest
This is also the suite described on http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Test_suite

(3) The ConTeXt unofficial test suite
https://github.com/melmothx/context-unofficial-test-suite

I want to update the [[Test suite]] page to make it more accurate. So,
I'm asking y'all: any inaccuracies in the text at the bottom of this
e-mail?

Cheers,
Sietse


* The test suite at pragma-ade.com is Hans's test suite; he runs this
suite before uploading a new beta (most times). To contribute a test
to this suite, write it in an e-mail and send it to the mailing list.


not true: I add examples when I add new functionality and sometimes turn 
examples from the mailing list in suite examples. I don't run the
suite before a beta (I did when the most recent current was made) but 
Lukáš runs them every now and then and send me an overview of files that 
fail at his end (some files that need special fonts are excluded). So, I 
fix (when needed) issues that show up with the suite.



QUESTION: when one downloads and unzips this file in a directory, how
does one run it?


Lukáš has his own scripts.

Here I can run this:

mtxrun --script testsuite --compare --oldname=cld-compare-old 
--newname=cld-compare-new   --pattern=**/*.cld
mtxrun --script testsuite --compare --oldname=mkiv-compare-old 
--newname=mkiv-compare-mkiv --pattern=**/*.mkiv
mtxrun --script testsuite --compare --oldname=mkvi-compare-old 
--newname=mkvi-compare-mkiv --pattern=**/*.mkvi
mtxrun --script testsuite --compare --oldname=tex-compare-old 
--newname=tex-compare-new   --pattern=**/*.tex


but that's probably a different method. As it takes a while I must admit 
that i only ran it for the current (as I do have more fonts on my system).



* The test suite at github is managed by users, especially Marco
Patzer. To run the suite, just download it and run `run-suite.pl`.


Indeed. That one compares output too I think and it can generate reports 
as well.



* The test suite at foundry.supelec.fr is no longer being used.


I don't know.


QUESTION: are the tests in it already transferred to Hans or Marco's
test suite? If not, is that still something we want to do, or can we
just bury this suite entirely?


I don't know. I happily leave that to others to sort out.

Hans

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[NTG-context] Test

[Keith J. Schultz]

Hi All,

Sorry for the noise. For some reason I am have been recieving
mail from this list.

regards
Keith.

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Re: [NTG-context] request for a few volunteers to test distribution on new server

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On 11/30/2012 03:22 AM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

Dear ConTeXters,

we will point the distribution to the new server later today (for a
moment without any significant changes). Before we do that I would
like to ask some of you to try out
./first-install.sh --server=distribution.contextgarden.net
to make sure that I didn't do any obvious mistake on the way.


Hi Mojca,

I just checked the new server. There appear to be no obvious errors, 
everything works. Just a few small observations:


1. ./first-install.sh --server=distribution.contextgarden.net: I assume 
you meant ./first-setup.sh, right?


2. Is the rsync phase somewhat slower than it used to be? I have no real 
measurements, just the impression that it took somewhat longer.


3. I assume the new server doesn't get synced to the latest beta yet? 
Because I get 2012.11.29 18:40, but 2012.11.30 has been out since 
yesterday, according to the pragma website.


Thanks for the important and wonderful work, all best

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Re: [NTG-context] request for a few volunteers to test distribution on new server

[Hans Hagen]

On 12/1/2012 11:06 AM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

On 11/30/2012 03:22 AM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

Dear ConTeXters,

we will point the distribution to the new server later today (for a
moment without any significant changes). Before we do that I would
like to ask some of you to try out
./first-install.sh --server=distribution.contextgarden.net
to make sure that I didn't do any obvious mistake on the way.


Hi Mojca,

I just checked the new server. There appear to be no obvious errors,
everything works. Just a few small observations:

1. ./first-install.sh --server=distribution.contextgarden.net: I assume
you meant ./first-setup.sh, right?


Which reminds me .. weren't we going to rename the script into 
context-install' or so?



2. Is the rsync phase somewhat slower than it used to be? I have no real
measurements, just the impression that it took somewhat longer.


the previous server was probably located close to your home


3. I assume the new server doesn't get synced to the latest beta yet?
Because I get 2012.11.29 18:40, but 2012.11.30 has been out since
yesterday, according to the pragma website.


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Re: [NTG-context] request for a few volunteers to test distribution on new server

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

 Hi Mojca,

 I just checked the new server. There appear to be no obvious errors,
 everything works. Just a few small observations:

 1. ./first-install.sh --server=distribution.contextgarden.net: I assume you
 meant ./first-setup.sh, right?

Yes. (But Hans' point is also true.)

 2. Is the rsync phase somewhat slower than it used to be? I have no real
 measurements, just the impression that it took somewhat longer.

I don't know. There is a high chance that lots of things had to be
synchronized just because the date is different than it used to be on
the old server. Maybe you observed that? But I didn't do any timings
either.

(Hans' explanation is also possible, but less likely.)

I'm actually curious about the highest speed that people can get when
fetching files from the server.

 3. I assume the new server doesn't get synced to the latest beta yet?
 Because I get 2012.11.29 18:40, but 2012.11.30 has been out since yesterday,
 according to the pragma website.

Thanks for noticing. ConTeXt itself has been updated, I still need to
figure out why it hasn't been synced to the distribution.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] request for a few volunteers to test distribution on new server

[luigi scarso]

On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 3:22 AM, Mojca Miklavec
mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear ConTeXters,

 we will point the distribution to the new server later today (for a
 moment without any significant changes). Before we do that I would
 like to ask some of you to try out
./first-install.sh --server=distribution.contextgarden.net
./first-setup.sh --server=distribution.contextgarden.net
is ok and
status-mkiv.tex compiles ok.




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[NTG-context] request for a few volunteers to test distribution on new server

[Mojca Miklavec]

Dear ConTeXters,

we will point the distribution to the new server later today (for a
moment without any significant changes). Before we do that I would
like to ask some of you to try out
   ./first-install.sh --server=distribution.contextgarden.net
to make sure that I didn't do any obvious mistake on the way.

The changes that I'm aware of are the following:

1.) changed names of math fonts

deleting fonts/opentype/public/lm/lmmath-regular.otf
deleting fonts/opentype/public/tex-gyre/texgyretermes-math.otf
deleting fonts/opentype/public/tex-gyre/texgyrepagella-math.otf
fonts/opentype/public/lm-math/lmodern-math.otf
fonts/opentype/public/tex-gyre-math/texgyrepagella-math.otf
fonts/opentype/public/tex-gyre-math/texgyretermes-math.otf

2.) some font documentation is missing, I forgot to include Asana Math
(fixing it) and there are some euler fonts there were not present
earlier (I need to look into that)

3.) gone: /doc, /experimental, /pragma, /texlive (none of those is
used, but /doc is now under /current/doc)

4.) alpha and dated context versions are gone (hardly make any sense
since they are too old and hardly usable)

5.) I see lots of (so far unexplained) changes in TikZ. I didn't try
to figure out what those are.

6.) I didn't set up headers/footers/icons yet to make the few
semi-(non-)useful notes on the website.

Mojca

(PS: there are other changes on the way, but I first want to make sure
that the old distribution will keep working as it did now.)
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Re: [NTG-context] [test suite] Bidi and line numbering

[Marco Pessotto]

Hello there.

https://github.com/melmothx/context-unofficial-test-suite/blob/master/src/mkiv/bidi/linenumbers-001.tex

The line numbering positioning is messed up and overlaps the text, or is
on the wrong side. With TL12 the output was good.

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Re: [NTG-context] [test suite] Column-related fails to compile

[Marco Pessotto]

https://github.com/melmothx/context-unofficial-test-suite/blob/master/src/mkiv/columns/sets-001.tex
fails to compile, but it's not a regression since TL, where it fails too.

Cheers

system   tex  error on line 20 in file sets-001.tex: Missing number, 
treated as zero ...

10 
11 \showframe
12 
13 \starttext
14 
15 \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]]
16 \definecolumnset[mycolumnset][n=2]
17 
\definecolumnsetarea[einschub][left][x=1,y=1,nx=3,ny=20,background=contrast,state=start,leftoffset=1cm,rightoffset=1cm]
18 
19 \startcolumnset[mycolumnset]
20   \dorecurse{15}{\input tufte\par}
21 \stopcolumnset
22 
23 \stoptext
24 
25 

to be read again 
   \advance 
\docalculatecolumnsetspan ...c!backspace \advance 
  \!!widtha \namedlayoutpara...
\dodoplacecolumntextareas ...lculatecolumnsetspan 
  \!!heighta \columntextarea...
\docommand ...oplacecolumntextareas {#1}{\v!left }
  \else \doglobal \removefro...
\91 #1,-\docommand {#1}
  \syst_helpers_do_process_comma_item 
\syst_helpers_do_process_comma_list ...rgument #1,
  ]\relax \global \advance \...
...
l.20 \dorecurse{15}{\input tufte\par}
 
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Re: [NTG-context] [test suite] two linenote related testfiles fail

[Marco Pessotto]

FAILING:

https://github.com/melmothx/context-unofficial-test-suite/blob/master/src/mkiv/critical/testlinenotes-007.tex

and 

https://github.com/melmothx/context-unofficial-test-suite/blob/master/src/mkiv/critical/testlinenotes-008.tex

Also, it appears that \linenote was not present in TL12, so I don't have
a reference for all the testlinenotes files.

I'd be glad if someone more introduced to this feature let me know if
the output with the latest beta is fine.

! Missing number, treated as zero.

system   tex  error on line 9 in file testlinenotes-007.tex: Missing 
number, treated as zero ...

 1 \starttext
 2 
 3 \setuppapersize[S6][S6]
 4 
\setuplayout[width=middle,height=middle,margin=1.5cm,footer=0pt,header=1cm]
 5 
 6 \setupcolors[state=start] \setuptyping[option=color]
 7 
 8 \definelinenote[extralinenote][rule=off,frame=on,framecolor=darkgreen]
 9   \setuplinenote [linenote] [rule=off,frame=on,framecolor=darkred,n=2]
10 
11 \showframe
12 
13 \title{Bidi}
14 
15 \subject{Issues:}
16 
17 \startitemize
18 \item Line-numeral ranges need to be configurable: 1--4 and 4--1. It 
should
19 not be harwired, since eg, Persian, may prefer to keep an LR-style range.

to be read again 
   \relax 
\dorecurse #1-\ifcase #1\relax 
\expandafter \gobbletwoarguments \or \expand...
inserted text ...c!levels }\dorecurse \p_levels 
  {\strc_define_commands_not...
\define_notation ...\fi \the \everydefinenotation 
  \let \currentnotation \sav...
inserted text ...noteparent ][\c!type =\v!note ]
  \fi \ctxcommand {definenot...
\define_note ...te }\fi \fi \the \everydefinenote 
  \let \currentnote \saved_d...
...
l.9 \setuplinenote
   [linenote] [rule=off,frame=on,framecolor=darkred,n=2]
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[NTG-context] [test suite] Bibtex-related test fails to compile.

[Marco Pessotto]

I've imported most of the testfiles kindly provided by Hans. Now the
test suite has grown to ~900 files. I'm running them in chunks and I'll
keep reporting, even if I don't need the feature. If you prefer me to
post to another list, please let me know.

https://github.com/melmothx/context-unofficial-test-suite/tree/master/src/mkiv/bibtex

collapse-001.tex fails to compile. See below the log.

progressive-005.tex picks a different LM font, but probably because I
don't have the required fonts installed and it's using a different one
as fallback (I don't know which one is supposed to be the good one,
probably noone :-).

The other differences are just due to different distances, so I'm
promoting them to references.

Best wishes

context collapse-001.tex

mtx-context | run 1: luatex 
--fmt=/media/data/melmoth/progetti/context-cutting-edge/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/formats/cont-en
 --jobname=collapse-001 
--lua=/media/data/melmoth/progetti/context-cutting-edge/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/formats/cont-en.lui
 --no-parse-first-line --c:currentrun=1 --c:fulljobname=./collapse-001.tex 
--c:input=./collapse-001.tex --c:kindofrun=1 cont-yes.mkiv
This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.70.1-2012052416 (rev 4277) 
 \write18 enabled.
(/media/data/melmoth/progetti/context-cutting-edge/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-yes.mkiv

ConTeXt  ver: 2012.10.22 11:01 MKIV  fmt: 2012.10.22  int: english/english

system   cont-new.mkiv loaded
(/media/data/melmoth/progetti/context-cutting-edge/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-new.mkiv
system   beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.mkiv
)
system   files  jobname: collapse-001, input: collapse-001, result: 
collapse-001
fontslatin modern fonts are not preloaded
languageslanguage en is active
(collapse-001.tex{/media/data/melmoth/progetti/context-cutting-edge/tex/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdftex/context/mkiv-base.map}
fontspreloading latin modern fonts (second stage)
fontstypescripts  unknown: library 'loc'
{/media/data/melmoth/progetti/context-cutting-edge/tex/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/lm/lm-math.map}{/media/data/melmoth/progetti/context-cutting-edge/tex/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/lm/lm-rm.map}
fontsvirtual math  unable to resolve name mapsfromchar
fontsfallback modern rm 12pt is loaded
publications file collapse-001.bbl not found, waiting for bibtex
! Undefined control sequence.

system   tex  error on line 27 in file collapse-001.tex: Undefined 
control sequence ...

17 \stoppublication
18 
19 \setuppublications[state=start,refcommand=authoryear,authoretallimit=1]
20 
21 \setupcite[author][left=,right=]
22 
23 \starttext
24 
25 [\cite{Me2011}]\par
26 [\cite{Me2011,Me2012}] \par
27   [\cite{Me2013}]\par
28 
29 \stoptext
30 


\handlemultiplebibauthors ...et \currentbibauthor 
  \empty \def \bibprocessaut...
\setcurrentbibauthor ...hors {\commalistsize }{#1}
  \fi 
\dodobibauthoryear ...t }\setcurrentbibauthor {#1}
  \ifnum \scratchcounter =\p...
\91 #1,-\dodobibauthoryear {#1}
  \syst_helpers_do_process_comma_item 
\syst_helpers_do_process_comma_list ...rgument #1,
  ]\relax \global \advance \...
\docite ...cite {#1}{#2}\else \donumberedcite {#1}
  \fi \endgroup 
l.27 [\cite{Me2013}
   ]\par
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[NTG-context] Test suite report

[Marco Pessotto]

Hello there.

Aditya added a couple of testfiles. Thanks a lot. I encourage anyone
reporting bugs to send a minimal example to me too, via mail or via pull
requests on github, so people running the tests can catch regressions.

I modified the code, so a unique filename for each test is not required
anymore.

I promoted to references the PDF which have a minimal shifting, because
they generated too much noise, but I left one just as a reminder of the
different distance between columns.

Issue still pending (as far as I know):

https://github.com/melmothx/context-unofficial-test-suite/blob/master/src/base/core-ver/core-ver-003.tex

 Number should continue.There are several long lines. Are the numbers correctly
 managed with long lines?
 \startcode[continue]

But it doesn't continue and it's reset to 1.

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Re: [NTG-context] Test suite report

[Hans Hagen]

On 21-10-2012 15:24, Marco Pessotto wrote:


Hello there.

Aditya added a couple of testfiles. Thanks a lot. I encourage anyone
reporting bugs to send a minimal example to me too, via mail or via pull
requests on github, so people running the tests can catch regressions.


there is s zip with lots of test files, it might make sense to take some 
from them (not all make sense in a visual compare)


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Re: [NTG-context] Test suite report

[Marco Pessotto]

Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl writes:

 there is s zip with lots of test files, it might make sense to take
 some from them (not all make sense in a visual compare)

There are more then 800 files in
http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/latest/cont-tst.7z

Any clue about which directory can be safely dropped?

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