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[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-04-01 Thread Hans Hagen


On 4/1/2024 11:34 AM, Otared Kavian wrote:

Hi Hans and Mikael,

Thanks for the new module math-goodriddance !
Indeed there are many mathematicians who are going to use the 
\goodriddancemath command, and no doubt they are going to thank you, 
even if they are very shy to come out.


Moreover this command can be used by people who want to transform the 
output PDF into an audio file, because for instance the following


\usemodule[math-goodriddance]
\goodriddancemath

\starttext

\startformula
\int_{0}^{\pi} \sin(x)\dd x = 2.
\stopformula

\stoptext

gives

integral from 0 to 휋 , of sin of 푥 d 푥 equals 2


you cna be more ambituous:

\im { C \of (\openinterval{a,b}) \neq C^^2 \of (\interval{a,b}) \neq 
C^^2 \of \interval{0,1} \neq C\of(\Omega) \neq 풞 \of (\Omega)}


or

\dm {u\of(b)-u\of(a)=\lim_{n\to+\infty} \parenthesis{f(x__1)\Delta 
x__1+f(x__2)\Delta x__2+\ldots+f(x__n)\Delta x__n}}


so we can really get rid of a lot of math

as one can see in the attached output which is very useful for the blind 
using an audio software.
yes, although unfortunately unicode never bothered to add some handy 
stuff for that (while if did for other comparable things) but we'can get 
around that


I now assume that you are willing to come up with the french 
translations (that then can be validated by Alan).  Do we actually have 
serious german context math users, as I wouldn't trust Hraban and Thomas 
on doing this?


Hans


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[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-04-01 Thread Otared Kavian

Hi Hans and Mikael,Thanks for the new module math-goodriddance ! Indeed there are many mathematicians who are going to use the \goodriddancemath command, and no doubt they are going to thank you, even if they are very shy to come out.Moreover this command can be used by people who want to transform the output PDF into an audio file, because for instance the following \usemodule[math-goodriddance]\goodriddancemath\starttext\startformula\int_{0}^{\pi} \sin(x)\dd x = 2.\stopformula\stoptextgives 
		
	
	
		
			
integral from 0 to 휋 , of sin of 푥 d 푥 equals 2 

			
		as one can see in the attached output which is very useful for the blind using an audio software.Best regards: OK

no-math.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
On 1 Apr 2024, at 16:31, Hans Hagen  wrote:Hi,There is a new lmtx upload.-- The svg inclusion via metapost has been upgraded and cleanup a bit, using some more recent metapost features. There are some new (not yet all documented metapost) features.-- In the process, support for LCH colors has been added, which is documented in the (eg luametafun manual).-- The math manual is not yet there because we were distracted by improving support for envelopes (penbased outlines) in metafun. This is still work in progress, some is present and discussed in the manual, and we'll come back to that sometime next month. Given the next item, we also might need to change some in the manual (different focus).-- Because we have users who have to conform to the European Accessibility Act we have been wondering how to deal with that and at Mikaels place there are two demands: distinctive colors and tagging and especially math (somehow validators love to check that). Colors never were an issue as they can be controlled, and tagging math neither, especially because nothing was/is done with it anyway, but ... we are happy that we found a reasonable (more modern and future proof) way out.As explained / shown in the attached document we're basically forced to choose a different approach with math (a pity as we worked hard to get the rendering right but the attached file works fine in the viewers that we tested).-- We like to hear from users what other demands wrt accessibility there are. We're not interested in the (commercial) big money aspects (of pdf and tagging) nor in the politics behind it (changes over time). What are the demands, so that we can see how to make it work or just work around it (as it's kind of boring to cook uyp complex features	, esp compared to playing with metapost).-- Furthermore .. the usual bits and pieces as discussed on the list and otherwise.-- If you have troubles (crash) you need to wipe the cache due to a change in lua bytecode storage (no easy way to catch it).Hans & Mikael-  Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE  Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands   tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl-___If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nlwebpage  : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror)archive  : https://github.com/contextgarden/contextwiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net___
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[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-04-01 Thread Mikael Sundqvist

Hi,

On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 9:36 AM Hans Hagen  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> There is a new lmtx upload.
>
> -- The svg inclusion via metapost has been upgraded and cleanup a bit,
> using some more recent metapost features. There are some new (not yet
> all documented metapost) features.
>
> -- In the process, support for LCH colors has been added, which is
> documented in the (eg luametafun manual).
>
> -- The math manual is not yet there because we were distracted by
> improving support for envelopes (penbased outlines) in metafun. This is
> still work in progress, some is present and discussed in the manual, and
> we'll come back to that sometime next month. Given the next item, we
> also might need to change some in the manual (different focus).
>
> -- Because we have users who have to conform to the European
> Accessibility Act we have been wondering how to deal with that and at
> Mikaels place there are two demands: distinctive colors and tagging and
> especially math (somehow validators love to check that). Colors never
> were an issue as they can be controlled, and tagging math neither,
> especially because nothing was/is done with it anyway, but ... we are
> happy that we found a reasonable (more modern and future proof) way out.
>
> As explained / shown in the attached document we're basically forced to
> choose a different approach with math (a pity as we worked hard to get
> the rendering right but the attached file works fine in the viewers that
> we tested).
>
> -- We like to hear from users what other demands wrt accessibility there
> are. We're not interested in the (commercial) big money aspects (of pdf
> and tagging) nor in the politics behind it (changes over time). What are
> the demands, so that we can see how to make it work or just work around
> it (as it's kind of boring to cook uyp complex features , esp compared
> to playing with metapost).
>
> -- Furthermore .. the usual bits and pieces as discussed on the list and
> otherwise.
>
> -- If you have troubles (crash) you need to wipe the cache due to a
> change in lua bytecode storage (no easy way to catch it).
>
> Hans & Mikael

In addition to what Hans wrote, I need to write and apologize. About
two years ago I was working on a big math project and needed SyncTeX
(code <-> okular) to work with it to get a smooth workflow. After
fighting it for several weeks, mailing Hans back and forth, without
any real support from Hans since "he was not using SyncTeX", I sent a
false patch to him that I claimed worked. It must have gotten in
without even being tested(!). Since then SyncTeX support for ConTeXt
has been broken.

Strengthened about how easy it was to add code to this project, and
still frustrated about the project (that is still not finished), I
started "collaborating" with Hans, mainly on math. During these years,
I have been baffled about how easy it has been to add malicious code,
he just swallows everything. I only needed to find out what Hans
really uses himself (a few tables, he likes colors, and he has a weak
point when it comes to "nice" metapost images), and then to add
patches for other stuff. For math, in particular, he seems to have no
understanding (sorry Hans). I am worried about the Dutch school
system.

Nevertheless, I have, during this time, more and more enjoyed our
discussions, and so I started to feel bad about my "patches", and
sorry for Hans. Thus, I have lately reverted, part by part, the bad
code. Only a few of them are left (but don't tell Hans!). I also got a
feeling that Wolfgang, checking all the code, since long did see this
through.

Thus, in the latest upload, for example, you might get SyncTeX working
again, but you might need to add \setupsynctex[state=repeat]. No
guarantees.

Again, my sincere apologies to all ConTeXters out there who have not
gotten the result they expect and deserve. I assume that Hans will
kick me out when the last patch is sent, so I will delay it as much as
possible...

/Mikael
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[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-02-15 Thread Hans Hagen


On 2/15/2024 10:02 AM, luigi scarso wrote:

On Wed, 14 Feb 2024 at 13:47, Hans Hagen  wrote:


Hi,

as we're around texlive code freeze time we're also in upload mode

- i uploaded a new lmtx
- i also added linux and windows 32 bin (as it seems to have users)

- we're now using lua 5.5 which has one restriction (was already
announced a while ago):


hm, I don't see lua 5.5 around ... perhaps Lua 5.4.5 ?
it's beta stuff but luametatex is an good test for it as it used a lot 
of lua so it's s way to pay back for using lua


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[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-02-15 Thread Mikael Sundqvist

Hi,

The 5.5 seems to come from https://github.com/lua/lua/blob/master/lua.h

/Mikael

On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 10:04 AM luigi scarso  wrote:
>
> On Wed, 14 Feb 2024 at 13:47, Hans Hagen  wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > as we're around texlive code freeze time we're also in upload mode
> >
> > - i uploaded a new lmtx
> > - i also added linux and windows 32 bin (as it seems to have users)
> >
> > - we're now using lua 5.5 which has one restriction (was already
> > announced a while ago):
>
> hm, I don't see lua 5.5 around ... perhaps Lua 5.4.5 ?
>
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[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-02-15 Thread luigi scarso

On Wed, 14 Feb 2024 at 13:47, Hans Hagen  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> as we're around texlive code freeze time we're also in upload mode
>
> - i uploaded a new lmtx
> - i also added linux and windows 32 bin (as it seems to have users)
>
> - we're now using lua 5.5 which has one restriction (was already
> announced a while ago):

hm, I don't see lua 5.5 around ... perhaps Lua 5.4.5 ?

--
luigi
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[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-01-24 Thread Otared Kavian

Hi Thomas,

Thank you for your advice: I did add
chmod +x install.sh
and now the script runs without MacOS complaining. 

However, since I had downloaded a new script yesterday and had updated to 
version 2024.01.23, I cannot check whether the issue was adding +x to the file 
install.sh.

Best regards: Otared

> On 23 Jan 2024, at 22:06, Thomas A. Schmitz  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Otared,
> 
> I just tried, and my Macbook ran the update without any problem. Does it make 
> any difference if you chmod +x the script install.sh?
> 
> All best
> 
> Thomas
> 
> On 1/23/24 21:59, Otared Kavian wrote:
>> Hi Dr Hans Van der Meer,
>> Thank you for your help. It seems that since January 18 something has
>> changed (either on MacOS or on the install script), because the last
>> time I could update without doing anything more than sh install.sh.
>> In any case I checked xattr with
>>  which xattr
>> and got:
>>  /usr/bin/xattr
>> Then I did
>>  xattr -d com.apple.quarantine
>> /Applications/context-osx-arm64/install.sh
>> and got:
>>  xattr: /Applications/context-osx-arm64/install.sh: No such xattr:
>> com.apple.quarantine
>> Invoking again sh install.sh resulted in the error message I reported
>> previously.
>> Best regards: Otared
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[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-01-23 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz


Hi Otared,

I just tried, and my Macbook ran the update without any problem. Does it 
make any difference if you chmod +x the script install.sh?


All best

Thomas

On 1/23/24 21:59, Otared Kavian wrote:

Hi Dr Hans Van der Meer,

Thank you for your help. It seems that since January 18 something has
changed (either on MacOS or on the install script), because the last
time I could update without doing anything more than sh install.sh.

In any case I checked xattr with
which xattr
and got:
/usr/bin/xattr

Then I did
xattr -d com.apple.quarantine
/Applications/context-osx-arm64/install.sh
and got:
xattr: /Applications/context-osx-arm64/install.sh: No such xattr:
com.apple.quarantine

Invoking again sh install.sh resulted in the error message I reported
previously.

Best regards: Otared



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[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-01-23 Thread Otared Kavian

Hi again,

I ended up downloading a new version of install.sh for MacOS from the Pragma 
site: using this allowed me to update to the latest version 2024-01-23:10H02.

Thanks for the help to all !

Best regards: Otared

> On 23 Jan 2024, at 21:08, Hans van der Meer via ntg-context 
>  wrote:
> 
> Just did 'sh install.sh' a moment ago without problems.
> In the past I had to do xattr -d com.apple.quarantaine path-to-executable 
> once but not anymore.
> I think the xattr resides in the Apple command tools. Are you sure you have 
> them?
> 
> yours sincerely
> dr. Hans van der Meer
> 
> 
> 
>> On 23 Jan 2024, at 17:29, Otared Kavian  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Hans,
>> 
>> I tried to update to your latest version (for MacOS Arm1) with the command 
>>  sh install.sh
>> but obtained the following message and no update:
>> 
>> xattr: bin/mtxrun: No such xattr: com.apple.quarantine
>> install.sh: line 110: 62611 Killed: 9   $PWD/bin/mtxrun --script 
>> ./bin/mtx-install.lua --update --server="$LMTXSERVER" 
>> --instance="$LMTXINSTANCE" --platform="$PLATFORM" --erase 
>> --extras="$LMTXEXTRAS" $@
>> 
>> 
>> Since I have a working (and backed up…) version 2024-01-18, there is no 
>> absolute necessity for me to update right now, but I wanted just to inform 
>> you about the issue I encountered. I wonder whether other MacOS users have 
>> had such a problem.
>> 
>> Best regards: Otared
>> 
>>> On 23 Jan 2024, at 10:09, Hans Hagen via ntg-context  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 1/20/2024 10:32 AM, Ursula Hermann wrote:
 32 bits Windows download does not work, because 404 report.
>>> 
>>> i uploaded a win32 installer (for now we only keep 32 bit win but once all 
>>> users are on 64 bit ...)
>>> 
>>> the current upload is as usual work in progress
>>> 
>>> Hans
>>> 
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[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-01-23 Thread Otared Kavian

Hi Dr Hans Van der Meer,

Thank you for your help. It seems that since January 18 something has changed 
(either on MacOS or on the install script), because the last time I could 
update without doing anything more than sh install.sh.

In any case I checked xattr with
which xattr
and got:
/usr/bin/xattr

Then I did 
xattr -d com.apple.quarantine /Applications/context-osx-arm64/install.sh
and got:
xattr: /Applications/context-osx-arm64/install.sh: No such xattr: 
com.apple.quarantine

Invoking again sh install.sh resulted in the error message I reported 
previously.

Best regards: Otared




> On 23 Jan 2024, at 21:08, Hans van der Meer via ntg-context 
>  wrote:
> 
> Just did 'sh install.sh' a moment ago without problems.
> In the past I had to do xattr -d com.apple.quarantaine path-to-executable 
> once but not anymore.
> I think the xattr resides in the Apple command tools. Are you sure you have 
> them?
> 
> yours sincerely
> dr. Hans van der Meer
> 
> 
> 
>> On 23 Jan 2024, at 17:29, Otared Kavian  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Hans,
>> 
>> I tried to update to your latest version (for MacOS Arm1) with the command 
>>  sh install.sh
>> but obtained the following message and no update:
>> 
>> xattr: bin/mtxrun: No such xattr: com.apple.quarantine
>> install.sh: line 110: 62611 Killed: 9   $PWD/bin/mtxrun --script 
>> ./bin/mtx-install.lua --update --server="$LMTXSERVER" 
>> --instance="$LMTXINSTANCE" --platform="$PLATFORM" --erase 
>> --extras="$LMTXEXTRAS" $@
>> 
>> 
>> Since I have a working (and backed up…) version 2024-01-18, there is no 
>> absolute necessity for me to update right now, but I wanted just to inform 
>> you about the issue I encountered. I wonder whether other MacOS users have 
>> had such a problem.
>> 
>> Best regards: Otared
>> 
>>> On 23 Jan 2024, at 10:09, Hans Hagen via ntg-context  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 1/20/2024 10:32 AM, Ursula Hermann wrote:
 32 bits Windows download does not work, because 404 report.
>>> 
>>> i uploaded a win32 installer (for now we only keep 32 bit win but once all 
>>> users are on 64 bit ...)
>>> 
>>> the current upload is as usual work in progress
>>> 
>>> Hans
>>> 
>>> -
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>>> -
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[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-01-23 Thread Hans van der Meer via ntg-context

Just did 'sh install.sh' a moment ago without problems.
In the past I had to do xattr -d com.apple.quarantaine path-to-executable once 
but not anymore.
I think the xattr resides in the Apple command tools. Are you sure you have 
them?

yours sincerely
dr. Hans van der Meer



> On 23 Jan 2024, at 17:29, Otared Kavian  wrote:
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> Hi Hans,
> 
> I tried to update to your latest version (for MacOS Arm1) with the command 
>   sh install.sh
> but obtained the following message and no update:
> 
> xattr: bin/mtxrun: No such xattr: com.apple.quarantine
> install.sh: line 110: 62611 Killed: 9   $PWD/bin/mtxrun --script 
> ./bin/mtx-install.lua --update --server="$LMTXSERVER" 
> --instance="$LMTXINSTANCE" --platform="$PLATFORM" --erase 
> --extras="$LMTXEXTRAS" $@
> 
> 
> Since I have a working (and backed up…) version 2024-01-18, there is no 
> absolute necessity for me to update right now, but I wanted just to inform 
> you about the issue I encountered. I wonder whether other MacOS users have 
> had such a problem.
> 
> Best regards: Otared
> 
>> On 23 Jan 2024, at 10:09, Hans Hagen via ntg-context  
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>> 
>> On 1/20/2024 10:32 AM, Ursula Hermann wrote:
>>> 32 bits Windows download does not work, because 404 report.
>> 
>> i uploaded a win32 installer (for now we only keep 32 bit win but once all 
>> users are on 64 bit ...)
>> 
>> the current upload is as usual work in progress
>> 
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[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-01-23 Thread Bruce Horrocks

On 23 Jan 2024, at 16:29, Otared Kavian  wrote:
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> I wonder whether other MacOS users have had such a problem.

Both Intel and ARM macs updated perfectly for me, just now.

Regards,
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[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-01-23 Thread Otared Kavian

Hi Hans,

I tried to update to your latest version (for MacOS Arm1) with the command 
sh install.sh
but obtained the following message and no update:

xattr: bin/mtxrun: No such xattr: com.apple.quarantine
install.sh: line 110: 62611 Killed: 9   $PWD/bin/mtxrun --script 
./bin/mtx-install.lua --update --server="$LMTXSERVER" 
--instance="$LMTXINSTANCE" --platform="$PLATFORM" --erase 
--extras="$LMTXEXTRAS" $@


Since I have a working (and backed up…) version 2024-01-18, there is no 
absolute necessity for me to update right now, but I wanted just to inform you 
about the issue I encountered. I wonder whether other MacOS users have had such 
a problem.

Best regards: Otared

> On 23 Jan 2024, at 10:09, Hans Hagen via ntg-context  
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> On 1/20/2024 10:32 AM, Ursula Hermann wrote:
>> 32 bits Windows download does not work, because 404 report.
> 
> i uploaded a win32 installer (for now we only keep 32 bit win but once all 
> users are on 64 bit ...)
> 
> the current upload is as usual work in progress
> 
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[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-01-23 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context


On 1/20/2024 10:32 AM, Ursula Hermann wrote:

32 bits Windows download does not work, because 404 report.


i uploaded a win32 installer (for now we only keep 32 bit win but once 
all users are on 64 bit ...)


the current upload is as usual work in progress

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[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-01-21 Thread Alain Delmotte


Hi Hans,

Le 20-01-24 à 09:38, Hans Hagen via ntg-context a écrit :

On 1/19/2024 6:34 PM, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote:

On 1/18/24 20:43, Denis Maier via ntg-context wrote:

*Von:*Alain Delmotte 
*Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 18. Januar 2024 20:04
*An:* ntg-context@ntg.nl
*Betreff:* [NTG-context] Re: upload
[...]
When I go to https://www.pragma-ade.nl, I get an 404 
Not Found

message, so I can't download the new upload !!
Works here.


Hi Denis,

I get a 404 error for both 
https://www.pragma-ade.nl/install.htm and

https://www.pragma-ade.com/install.htm.

I can update my existing installed version, but I 
wouldn’t be able to

install a brand new distribution.

Do you reach any of the urls included in my first paragraph?

Many thanks for your help,

can you try again



I tried and passed the first step: I can go to the 
"Installation" page, but then again "Error 404" when I click 
on the "64 bit Microsoft Windows" link. Then I also tried 
"https://lmtx.pragma-ade.nl/install-llmtx/context-win64.zip; 
and I got the file!


Thanks,

Alain

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[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-01-20 Thread Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context

On 1/20/24 09:38, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
> On 1/19/2024 6:34 PM, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote:
>> [...]
>> I get a 404 error for both https://www.pragma-ade.nl/install.htm and
>> https://www.pragma-ade.com/install.htm.
>> [...]
> can you try again?

Many thanks for the fast fix, Hans.

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[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-01-20 Thread Hans Hagen


On 1/20/2024 10:32 AM, Ursula Hermann wrote:

32 bits Windows download does not work, because 404 report.


32 bit windows has been dropped for now, i could generate native win32 
bins but they are less performing that mingw crosscompiled but all this 
is more manual work than using the garden build


I might add it when the garden build is up and running which might 
happen one of these days.


So, how many 32 bit bin users are out there? And for how long? Any linux 
32 users?


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[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-01-20 Thread Ursula Hermann

32 bits Windows download does not work, because 404 report.
Uschi 

Von: vm via ntg-context 
Gesendet: Samstag, 20. Jänner 2024 09:58:15
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On 20/01/2024 09:38, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
> can you try again

it made a difference, no 404 ;-)
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[NTG-context] Re: upload

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On 20/01/2024 09:38, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:

can you try again


it made a difference, no 404 ;-)
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[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-01-20 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context


On 1/19/2024 6:34 PM, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote:

On 1/18/24 20:43, Denis Maier via ntg-context wrote:

*Von:*Alain Delmotte 
*Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 18. Januar 2024 20:04
*An:* ntg-context@ntg.nl
*Betreff:* [NTG-context] Re: upload
[...]
When I go to https://www.pragma-ade.nl, I get an 404 Not Found
message, so I can't download the new upload !!
Works here.


Hi Denis,

I get a 404 error for both https://www.pragma-ade.nl/install.htm and
https://www.pragma-ade.com/install.htm.

I can update my existing installed version, but I wouldn’t be able to
install a brand new distribution.

Do you reach any of the urls included in my first paragraph?

Many thanks for your help,

can you try again

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[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-01-19 Thread Alain Delmotte


Hi Otared,

Le 19-01-24 à 22:56, Otared Kavian a écrit :

Hi Pablo,

Indeed the two URL you mention result t a 404 error. I 
guess the correct URL is

https://www.pragma-ade.nl

and there one may go to the appropriate tab.

Best regards: Otared


No it doesn't work. I ttried many times.

Alain




On 19 Jan 2024, at 18:34, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context 
 wrote:


On 1/18/24 20:43, Denis Maier via ntg-context wrote:

*Von:*Alain Delmotte 
*Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 18. Januar 2024 20:04
*An:* ntg-context@ntg.nl
*Betreff:* [NTG-context] Re: upload
[...]
When I go to https://www.pragma-ade.nl, I get an 404 
Not Found

message, so I can't download the new upload !!
Works here.


Hi Denis,

I get a 404 error for both 
https://www.pragma-ade.nl/install.htm and

https://www.pragma-ade.com/install.htm.

I can update my existing installed version, but I 
wouldn’t be able to

install a brand new distribution.

Do you reach any of the urls included in my first paragraph?

Many thanks for your help,

Pablo

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[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-01-19 Thread Otared Kavian

Hi Pablo,

Indeed the two URL you mention result t a 404 error. I guess the correct URL is
 https://www.pragma-ade.nl <https://www.pragma-ade.nl/>

and there one may go to the appropriate tab.

Best regards: Otared

> On 19 Jan 2024, at 18:34, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context 
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> 
> On 1/18/24 20:43, Denis Maier via ntg-context wrote:
>>> *Von:*Alain Delmotte 
>>> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 18. Januar 2024 20:04
>>> *An:* ntg-context@ntg.nl
>>> *Betreff:* [NTG-context] Re: upload
>>> [...]
>>> When I go to https://www.pragma-ade.nl, I get an 404 Not Found
>>> message, so I can't download the new upload !!
>>> Works here.
> 
> Hi Denis,
> 
> I get a 404 error for both https://www.pragma-ade.nl/install.htm and
> https://www.pragma-ade.com/install.htm.
> 
> I can update my existing installed version, but I wouldn’t be able to
> install a brand new distribution.
> 
> Do you reach any of the urls included in my first paragraph?
> 
> Many thanks for your help,
> 
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[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-01-19 Thread Denis Maier via ntg-context

Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl> hat am 19.01.2024 18:34 CET geschrieben:

On 1/18/24 20:43, Denis Maier via ntg-context wrote:

>> *Von:*Alain Delmotte <alain.delmo...@leliseron.org>

>> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 18. Januar 2024 20:04

>> *An:* ntg-context@ntg.nl

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>> [...]

>> When I go to https://www.pragma-ade.nl, I get an 404 Not Found

>> message, so I can't download the new upload !!

  Works here.

Hi Denis,

I get a 404 error for both https://www.pragma-ade.nl/install.htm and

https://www.pragma-ade.com/install.htm.

I can update my existing installed version, but I wouldn’t be able to

install a brand new distribution.

Do you reach any of the urls included in my first paragraph?

   No. 404 here as well.

   Best,

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[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-01-19 Thread Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context

On 1/18/24 20:43, Denis Maier via ntg-context wrote:
>> *Von:*Alain Delmotte 
>> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 18. Januar 2024 20:04
>> *An:* ntg-context@ntg.nl
>> *Betreff:* [NTG-context] Re: upload
>> [...]
>> When I go to https://www.pragma-ade.nl, I get an 404 Not Found
>> message, so I can't download the new upload !!
> > Works here.

Hi Denis,

I get a 404 error for both https://www.pragma-ade.nl/install.htm and
https://www.pragma-ade.com/install.htm.

I can update my existing installed version, but I wouldn’t be able to
install a brand new distribution.

Do you reach any of the urls included in my first paragraph?

Many thanks for your help,

Pablo

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[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-01-18 Thread Denis Maier via ntg-context

Works here.

Best,

Denis

 

Von: Alain Delmotte  
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. Januar 2024 20:04
An: ntg-context@ntg.nl
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Hi,

When I go to https://www.pragma-ade.nl/ I get an 404 Not Found message, so I 
can't download the new upload !!

Any reason?

Alain

Le 18-01-24 à 00:13, Hans Hagen a écrit :

Hi, 

I uploaded a new version (there is some work in progress but it probably 
doesn't affect anyone). 

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[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-01-18 Thread Alain Delmotte


Hi,

When I go to https://www.pragma-ade.nl/ I get an 404 Not 
Found message, so I can't download the new upload !!


Any reason?

Alain

Le 18-01-24 à 00:13, Hans Hagen a écrit :

Hi,

I uploaded a new version (there is some work in progress 
but it probably doesn't affect anyone).


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[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-01-18 Thread Hans Hagen


On 1/18/2024 3:27 PM, Otared Kavian wrote:

Dear Dalyoung, dear Mikael,

I installed anew the whole LMTX tree and now everything is working fine.
I don’t know whether this is related or not, somehow in my previous tree 
I had a directory (or folder in the MacOS language) named « texmf-osx-64 
» instead « texmf-osx-arm64 » and this apparently had consequences.


In any case everything works fine now.

Thanks to Hans, Mikael and all the people on this list!

concerning the prime, use

  $x\prime$ and not $x^\prime$ as you might want $x^2\prime$ some day

in the first case it's really a prime, in the second case a prime symbol 
in a superscript; in lmtx we have for each nucleus a presubscript, 
presuperscript, subscript, superscript and primescript (plus index ones)


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[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-01-18 Thread Otared Kavian

Dear Dalyoung, dear Mikael,

I installed anew the whole LMTX tree and now everything is working fine. 
I don’t know whether this is related or not, somehow in my previous tree I had 
a directory (or folder in the MacOS language) named « texmf-osx-64 » instead « 
texmf-osx-arm64 » and this apparently had consequences.

In any case everything works fine now.

Thanks to Hans, Mikael and all the people on this list!

Best regards: Otared

> On 18 Jan 2024, at 08:17, Jeong Dal via ntg-context  
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> Dear Otared,
> 
> I installed upload version today.
> And, your example,
> 
> \starttext
> The derivative of $f$ is denoted $f'$ or $f^\prime$ or is it $f^'$\dots
> \stoptext
> 
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[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-01-17 Thread Jeong Dal via ntg-context

Dear Otared,

I installed upload version today.
And, your example,

\starttext
The derivative of $f$ is denoted $f'$ or $f^\prime$ or is it $f^'$\dots
\stoptext

works well.

I think that you will have the same good result.

Best wishes,

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[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-01-17 Thread Mikael Sundqvist

Hi Otared,

On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 2:37 AM Otared Kavian  wrote:
>
> Hi Hans,
>
> Thanks for the new upload which solves the math alignment mechanism. However 
> I noticed that the classic notation $f’$ for the derivative does not work 
> anymore, while $f^\prime$ or $f^’$ does.
>
> \starttext
> The derivative of $f$ is denoted $f'$ or $f^\prime$ or is it $f^'$\dots
> \stoptext
>
> Best regards: Otared

There has been work in the last days on multiple sub/superscripts
and/or primes. But again your example works here. Just to be sure, did
you upgrade both the zip and the binary?

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[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-01-17 Thread Otared Kavian

Hi Hans,Thanks for the new upload which solves the math alignment mechanism. However I noticed that the classic notation $f’$ for the derivative does not work anymore, while $f^\prime$ or $f^’$ does.\starttextThe derivative of $f$ is denoted $f'$ or $f^\prime$ or is it $f^'$\dots\stoptextBest regards: Otared

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[NTG-context] Re: upload

2023-08-11 Thread Thangalin

That works Hans, thank you.

line 802 in core-env should be:
>
> \permanent\tolerant\protected\def\setupenv
>{\syst_variables_set\getrawparameters[\s!environment]}
>
> (seems i forgot that one when doing some cleanup)
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[NTG-context] Re: upload

2023-08-11 Thread Hans Hagen


On 8/11/2023 3:31 AM, Thangalin wrote:

Did arguments regress in 2023.08.10 02:59?

$ cat u.tex
\starttext
Feisty arguments
\stoptext
$ context u.tex
$  ls -la *.pdf
-rw-r--r-- 1 username username 6279 Aug 10 18:28 u.pdf
$ context --arguments=x=y u.tex | grep error
tex error   > tex error on line 13 in file : Use of \getrawparameters
doesn't match its definition
mtx-context | fatal error: return code: 1

This was working with the previous release.

line 802 in core-env should be:

\permanent\tolerant\protected\def\setupenv
  {\syst_variables_set\getrawparameters[\s!environment]}

(seems i forgot that one when doing some cleanup)

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[NTG-context] Re: upload

2023-08-10 Thread Thangalin

Did arguments regress in 2023.08.10 02:59?

$ cat u.tex
\starttext
Feisty arguments
\stoptext
$ context u.tex
$  ls -la *.pdf
-rw-r--r-- 1 username username 6279 Aug 10 18:28 u.pdf
$ context --arguments=x=y u.tex | grep error
tex error   > tex error on line 13 in file : Use of \getrawparameters
doesn't match its definition
mtx-context | fatal error: return code: 1

This was working with the previous release.

On Wed, Aug 9, 2023 at 8:43 AM Hans Hagen  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I uploaded a new lmtx. There are some new features that wil be revealed
> in the future (likely after the meeting) but here is one:
>
> \starttext
>
>  \defineoverlay
>[test]
>[\color
>   [blue]
>   {TEST
>\inframed
>  [foregroundcolor=red]
>  {xxx}
>TEST}]
>
>  \framed
>[background=test,
> foregroundstyle=\switchtobodyfont[small]]
>{test}
>
> \stoptext
>
>  From now on many commands accept (properly) nested [] inside commands
> that use [] as fences (like the setup commands) where it makes sense. It
> is up to the user to decide to use {} (as before) or not but it is less
> error prone.
>
> It is now also possible to nest setups as in
>
> \starttext
>
> \startsetups one
>  \startsetups [three]
>  HERE
>  \stopsetups
> \stopsetups
>
> \startsetups two
>  \startsetups [three]
>  THERE
>  \stopsetups
> \stopsetups
>
> \setups[one] \setups[three]
>
> \setups[two] \setups[three]
>
> \stoptext
>
> As part of the ongoing improvements on math rendering we added some
> classic lm/cm kerns (between upperacse and periods / commas) in the
> goodie files.
>
> Some lowlevel manuals have been extended, explaining experimental 'named
> cross macro nesting parameter referencing' and 'constrained cq. retained
> assignments', but that is only relevant for those interested in
> overcoming some limitations in the traditional engines.
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[NTG-context] Re: upload

2023-08-10 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm


Am 10.08.23 um 17:02 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
indeed that was the issue, seems like i generated the update but 
didn't push it, can you check again?


It works now as expected.


Confirmed.
Thank you!

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[NTG-context] Re: upload

2023-08-10 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


Hans Hagen via ntg-context schrieb am 10.08.2023 um 16:41:

On 8/10/2023 3:52 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 10.08.2023 um 15:33:

I was already on the latest, and the problem persists. Here’s a MWE:

"""
\setupreferencing[left=,right=,]

\starttext

\about[something]

\stoptext
"""


It's unrelated to \about. Using nothing as argument to the last key 
doesn't work, e.g. in the following example "b" keeps \endgroup as 
value when I wrote "b=".


\starttext

\getdummyparameters[a=\begingroup,b=\endgroup]

\dummyparameter{a}
\dummyparameter{b}

% b is still \endgroup

\getdummyparameters[a=,b=]

\dummyparameter{a}
\dummyparameter{b}

\stoptext
indeed that was the issue, seems like i generated the update but 
didn't push it, can you check again?


It works now as expected.

Wolfgang

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[NTG-context] Re: upload

2023-08-10 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context


On 8/10/2023 3:52 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 10.08.2023 um 15:33:

I was already on the latest, and the problem persists. Here’s a MWE:

"""
\setupreferencing[left=,right=,]

\starttext

\about[something]

\stoptext
"""


It's unrelated to \about. Using nothing as argument to the last key 
doesn't work, e.g. in the following example "b" keeps \endgroup as value 
when I wrote "b=".


\starttext

\getdummyparameters[a=\begingroup,b=\endgroup]

\dummyparameter{a}
\dummyparameter{b}

% b is still \endgroup

\getdummyparameters[a=,b=]

\dummyparameter{a}
\dummyparameter{b}

\stoptext
indeed that was the issue, seems like i generated the update but didn't 
push it, can you check again?


Hans

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[NTG-context] Re: upload

2023-08-10 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 10.08.2023 um 15:33:

I was already on the latest, and the problem persists. Here’s a MWE:

"""
\setupreferencing[left=,right=,]

\starttext

\about[something]

\stoptext
"""


It's unrelated to \about. Using nothing as argument to the last key 
doesn't work, e.g. in the following example "b" keeps \endgroup as value 
when I wrote "b=".


\starttext

\getdummyparameters[a=\begingroup,b=\endgroup]

\dummyparameter{a}
\dummyparameter{b}

% b is still \endgroup

\getdummyparameters[a=,b=]

\dummyparameter{a}
\dummyparameter{b}

\stoptext

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[NTG-context] Re: upload

2023-08-10 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm


Am 10.08.23 um 15:03 schrieb Hans Hagen:

On 8/10/2023 2:57 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

Am 09.08.23 um 23:11 schrieb Hans Hagen:

On 8/9/2023 9:29 PM, Rik Kabel wrote:
Two problems with this upload. First, page number suppression no 
longer works. Second, table captions are not displayed.


indeed, probably a fix tomorrow


I don’t know if that’s the same problem, but the current version gives 
a parsing error at

\quotation{\about[kap:example]}

(2023.07.29 still works.)

there was a new upload


I was already on the latest, and the problem persists. Here’s a MWE:

"""
\setupreferencing[left=,right=,]

\starttext

\about[something]

\stoptext
"""

tex error   > tex error on line 5 in file referencetest.tex: Extra 
}, or forgotten \endgroup



\egroup
 \about
...ways \let \\\space \postponenotes \referencingparameter \c!left 
\doifelsereferencefound {#1} {\goto {\limitatetext 
\currentreferencetitle {\referencingparameter \c!width }\unknown 
}[#1]}{}\flushnotes \referencingparameter \c!right

\endgroup

\about[something]

1 \setupreferencing[left=,right=,]
2
3 \starttext
4
5 >>  \about[something]
6
7 \stoptext
8
I've deleted a group-closing symbol because it seems to be spurious, as in
'$x}$'. But perhaps the } is legitimate and you forgot something else, as in
'\hbox{$x}'.
mtx-context | fatal error: return code: 1

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[NTG-context] Re: upload

2023-08-10 Thread Hans Hagen


On 8/10/2023 2:57 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

Am 09.08.23 um 23:11 schrieb Hans Hagen:

On 8/9/2023 9:29 PM, Rik Kabel wrote:
Two problems with this upload. First, page number suppression no 
longer works. Second, table captions are not displayed.


indeed, probably a fix tomorrow


I don’t know if that’s the same problem, but the current version gives a 
parsing error at

\quotation{\about[kap:example]}

(2023.07.29 still works.)

there was a new upload

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[NTG-context] Re: upload

2023-08-10 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm


Am 09.08.23 um 23:11 schrieb Hans Hagen:

On 8/9/2023 9:29 PM, Rik Kabel wrote:
Two problems with this upload. First, page number suppression no 
longer works. Second, table captions are not displayed.


indeed, probably a fix tomorrow


I don’t know if that’s the same problem, but the current version gives a 
parsing error at

\quotation{\about[kap:example]}

(2023.07.29 still works.)

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[NTG-context] Re: upload

2023-08-09 Thread Hans Hagen


On 8/9/2023 9:29 PM, Rik Kabel wrote:


On 8/9/2023 11:42 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:

Hi,

I uploaded a new lmtx. There are some new features that wil be 
revealed in the future (likely after the meeting) but here is one:



Two problems with this upload. First, page number suppression no longer 
works. Second, table captions are not displayed.


indeed, probably a fix tomorrow

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[NTG-context] Re: upload

2023-08-09 Thread Rik Kabel



On 8/9/2023 11:42 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:

Hi,

I uploaded a new lmtx. There are some new features that wil be 
revealed in the future (likely after the meeting) but here is one:



Two problems with this upload. First, page number suppression no longer 
works. Second, table captions are not displayed.



   \setuppagenumbering [alternative=doublesided,location=]

   \setupcaption[style=sans,headstyle=sans]

   \starttext
   \startchapter[title={Page Numbering Test}]

   \startplacetable[location={here,spit,force},title={Title?}]
   \starttabulate[|rp|lp|]
   \HL \NC tufte \NC \input tufte \NC \AR
    \NC ward \NC \input ward \NC \AR
    \NC montgomery \NC \input montgomery \NC \AR \HL
   \stoptabulate
   \stopplacetable

   \dorecurse{7}{ \input tufte \par}

   \stopchapter
   \stoptext

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[NTG-context] RE : upload / metafun

2020-12-15 Thread Joseph

Hi, FYI, when running install.bat I see problem downloading exe mtx-install | changed  :   0 % :  2391552 : tex/texmf-win64/bin/luametatex.exemtx-install | tex/texmf-win64/bin/luametatex.exe, trying again: After several attempts, the install.bat run stops.Thanks Joseph De : Hans HagenEnvoyé le :mardi 15 décembre 2020 10:35À : mailing list for ConTeXt usersObjet :[NTG-context] upload / metafun Hi, I uploaded a new lmtx. This time some work has been done at the metafun end. At the tex end we're working on some overload protection mechanism which involves tagging many macro so that will take a while (most tagging is done but checking left over cases take time). So, I wondered if we can do something similar in metapost: flag macros and variables in order to issue a warnings when a dangerous overload happens. The current lmtx has this as an experiment: primitives, permanent, immutable and mutable (so far); you can look at the *.mpxl files to get an idea. If you say for instance  path fullcircle; there will be a warning metapost    > overloading immutable 'fullcircle' or when \enabledirectives[metapost.overloadmode=error] has been given you get an error. The implementation is rather simple and non intrusive and differs fromthe one in tex. There it is tightly integrated for all kind of reasons (millions of macro definitions per run so efficiency matters). Also, in metapost variables (tags) can have complex name constructions and we only test the top level. When a overload happens (overloadmode internal <> 0) a lua callback takes care of it. A side effect is that we can query all hash entries and check for consistency which is what i've done and am doing now. Of course that can introduce issues ... just that you know. Hans -   Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE   Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands    tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl-___If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-contextwebpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.netarchive  : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/wiki : http://contextgarden.net___ 
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Re: [NTG-context] RE : upload

2020-11-25 Thread Floris van Manen




On 25/11/2020 16:48, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:

Just out of curiosity, could you fix your already installed ConTeXt version?


no, that did not work.
I just dumped the whole folder after a new folder/download seemed to 
work again.


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Re: [NTG-context] RE : upload

2020-11-25 Thread Pablo Rodriguez

On 11/24/20 7:22 PM, Floris van Manen wrote:
> On 24/11/2020 18:28, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
>> I’m afraid you are getting an old version, since the newer one reads:
>>
>> mtx-context | ConTeXt Process Management 1.04
>> mtx-context |
>> mtx-context | main context file:
>> /home/ousia/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/context.mkiv
>> mtx-context | current version: 2020.11.24 00:41
>> mtx-context | main context file:
>> /home/ousia/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkxl/context.mkxl
>> mtx-context | current version: 2020.11.24 00:41
>
> Well I can see that there is two versions.

Hi Floris,

the two versions you see are related to the code split mentioned by Hans
(my guess).

MkXL is now independent from MkIV. The version is the same, but there
are two codebases in the same distribution.

Think of it as MkII and MkIV contained in ConTeXt Standalone.

> But when unzipping the new context-linux-64.zip (nov 24 00:24)
> then run the install script
> sh ./install.sh
> will not solve the issue...

You shouldn’t need to download context-linux-64.zip.

Running install.sh on Linux should work fine again. No need to remove
tex/texmf-*.tma, either.

> So context is not working anymore.
> Any hints?

Just out of curiosity, could you fix your already installed ConTeXt version?

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Re: [NTG-context] RE : upload

2020-11-24 Thread Floris van Manen

by creating a new empty ~/context folder, then unzip the distribution 
and running the install script made Context work again.


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Re: [NTG-context] RE : upload

2020-11-24 Thread Floris van Manen




On 24/11/2020 18:28, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:

I’m afraid you are getting an old version, since the newer one reads:

mtx-context | ConTeXt Process Management 1.04
mtx-context |
mtx-context | main context file:
/home/ousia/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/context.mkiv
mtx-context | current version: 2020.11.24 00:41
mtx-context | main context file:
/home/ousia/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkxl/context.mkxl
mtx-context | current version: 2020.11.24 00:41


Well I can see that there is two versions.
But when unzipping the new context-linux-64.zip (nov 24 00:24)
then run the install script
sh ./install.sh
will not solve the issue...

So context is not working anymore.
Any hints?

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Re: [NTG-context] RE : upload

2020-11-24 Thread Pablo Rodriguez

On 11/23/20 11:33 PM, Floris van Manen wrote:
> [...]
> I still get the error:
>
> csname overload > fatal error, protection level 4, control sequence
> 'textcontrolspace', properties 'immutable', file 'enco-ini.mkxl', line 315
>
> Also aafter the update I got two different current versions:
>
> $ context --version
> mtx-context | ConTeXt Process Management 1.04
> mtx-context |
> mtx-context | main context file:
> /home/vm/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/context.mkiv
> mtx-context | current version: 2020.11.23 22:40
> mtx-context | main context file:
> /home/vm/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/context.mkxl
> mtx-context | current version: 2020.11.19 11:28

Hi Floris,

I’m afraid you are getting an old version, since the newer one reads:

mtx-context | ConTeXt Process Management 1.04
mtx-context |
mtx-context | main context file:
/home/ousia/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/context.mkiv
mtx-context | current version: 2020.11.24 00:41
mtx-context | main context file:
/home/ousia/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkxl/context.mkxl
mtx-context | current version: 2020.11.24 00:41

Just in case it helps,

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Re: [NTG-context] RE : upload

2020-11-23 Thread Hans Hagen


On 11/24/2020 1:47 AM, Rik Kabel wrote:

\version[draft]
\starttext
Hi!
\stoptext


for now use \setupversion


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Re: [NTG-context] RE : upload

2020-11-23 Thread Rik Kabel


On 11/23/2020 17:02, Hans Hagen wrote:

On 11/23/2020 9:42 PM, Joseph wrote:

After running install.bat I see error :

new attempt

The following works with the mkiv installation and with the lmtx install 
and context --luatex. It fails with an undefined control sequence error 
when run with context lmtx without the --luatex switch.


   \version[draft]
   \starttext
   Hi!
   \stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] RE : upload

2020-11-23 Thread Floris van Manen




On 23/11/2020 23:02, Hans Hagen wrote:

On 11/23/2020 9:42 PM, Joseph wrote:

After running install.bat I see error :

new attempt


I still get the error:

csname overload > fatal error, protection level 4, control sequence 
'textcontrolspace', properties 'immutable', file 'enco-ini.mkxl', line 315



Also aafter the update I got two different current versions:

$ context --version
mtx-context | ConTeXt Process Management 1.04
mtx-context |
mtx-context | main context file: 
/home/vm/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/context.mkiv

mtx-context | current version: 2020.11.23 22:40
mtx-context | main context file: 
/home/vm/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/context.mkxl

mtx-context | current version: 2020.11.19 11:28



before the update it was like so:

mtx-context | current version: 2020.11.19 11:28
mtx-context | current version: 2020.11.19 11:28
current:  2020-11-19 11:32:59.0 +0100
new:  2020-11-23 20:23:18.0 +0100
mtx-context | current version: 2020.11.23 20:20
mtx-context | current version: 2020.11.19 11:28



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Re: [NTG-context] RE : upload

2020-11-23 Thread Hans Hagen


On 11/23/2020 9:42 PM, Joseph wrote:

After running install.bat I see error :

new attempt


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[NTG-context] RE : upload

2020-11-23 Thread Joseph

After running install.bat I see error : This is LuaMetaTeX, Version 2.08.03 2097153(D:/ConTeXt/lmtx/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkxl/cont-en.mkxl(context.mkxl(syst-ini.mkxl)(norm-ctx.mkxl)(syst-pln.mkxl)(syst-mes.mkxl)(luat-cod.mkxl<+ D:/ConTeXt/lmtx/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkxl/luat-cod.lmt>)(luat-bas.mkxl loading: ConTeXt Lua Macros / Basic Lua Libraries<- D:/ConTeXt/lmtx/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkxl/l-bit32.lua> error loading file: l-bit32.lua (aborting)resolvers   | formats | De : Hans HagenEnvoyé le :lundi 23 novembre 2020 20:24À : mailing list for ConTeXt users; Christian PrimObjet :Re: [NTG-context] upload On 11/23/2020 7:29 PM, Christian Prim wrote:> Hi > Do I miss something?looks like some old files are still present i'll fix it Hans -   Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE   Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands    tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl-___If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-contextwebpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.netarchive  : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/wiki : http://contextgarden.net___ 
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