Re: [NTSysADM] Remove original message in reply

2017-12-15 Thread Andrew S. Baker 
It is generally advisable that you don't quote him verbatim, but rather
internalize the lesson of his proverb, and make use of more nuanced means
to communicate the same thing.

When all else fails, hire a competent consultant to accomplish the
above...  (since everyone seems to take advice better from consultants than
internal staff)

Regards,

 *ASB*


On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 2:12 AM, Jon Harris <jk.har...@live.com> wrote:

> I believe he was totally correct but when dealing with lawyers or
> management you can’t quote him and retain your position.
>
>
>
> Jon
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>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Micheal Espinola Jr
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 14, 2017 11:30 PM
> *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* Re: [NTSysADM] Remove original message in reply
>
>
>
> I should have included the full proper quote for those that are new to it:
>
>
>
> "There are seldom technological solutions for behavioral problems" -- Ed
> Crowley
>
>
>
> On Dec 13, 2017 3:34 PM, "Micheal Espinola Jr" <michealespin...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Technically, yea you could do it.  But you'd have to be very careful and
> clever.  You'd be modifying multiple Content-Type containers (text/plain,
> text/html, etc).
>
>
>
> More importantly (to me), is what is the business need for this?
>
>
> --
> Espi
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 8:58 AM, Sean Chapman <schap...@coilcraft.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
> I got tasked with finding out how to not include the original message in
> reply for email (using Office 365)  I know this is possible in Outlook but
> its not available for outlook online or mobile.  Does anyone know of a way
> to get this done?  I was thinking maybe some crazy exchange transport rule
> or possibly some hardware like barracuda or mimecast etc?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
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RE: [NTSysADM] Remove original message in reply

2017-12-14 Thread Jon Harris 
I believe he was totally correct but when dealing with lawyers or management 
you can’t quote him and retain your position.

Jon

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Micheal Espinola Jr
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 11:30 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Remove original message in reply

I should have included the full proper quote for those that are new to it:

"There are seldom technological solutions for behavioral problems" -- Ed Crowley

On Dec 13, 2017 3:34 PM, "Micheal Espinola Jr" 
<michealespin...@gmail.com<mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Technically, yea you could do it.  But you'd have to be very careful and 
clever.  You'd be modifying multiple Content-Type containers (text/plain, 
text/html, etc).

More importantly (to me), is what is the business need for this?

--
Espi


On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 8:58 AM, Sean Chapman 
<schap...@coilcraft.com<mailto:schap...@coilcraft.com>> wrote:
Hey all,
I got tasked with finding out how to not include the original message in reply 
for email (using Office 365)  I know this is possible in Outlook but its not 
available for outlook online or mobile.  Does anyone know of a way to get this 
done?  I was thinking maybe some crazy exchange transport rule or possibly some 
hardware like barracuda or mimecast etc?
Thanks!









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Re: [NTSysADM] Remove original message in reply

2017-12-14 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr 
I should have included the full proper quote for those that are new to it:

"There are seldom technological solutions for behavioral problems" -- Ed
Crowley

On Dec 13, 2017 3:34 PM, "Micheal Espinola Jr" 
wrote:

> Technically, yea you could do it.  But you'd have to be very careful and
> clever.  You'd be modifying multiple Content-Type containers (text/plain,
> text/html, etc).
>
> More importantly (to me), is what is the business need for this?
>
> --
> Espi
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 8:58 AM, Sean Chapman 
> wrote:
>
>> Hey all,
>> I got tasked with finding out how to not include the original message in
>> reply for email (using Office 365)  I know this is possible in Outlook but
>> its not available for outlook online or mobile.  Does anyone know of a way
>> to get this done?  I was thinking maybe some crazy exchange transport rule
>> or possibly some hardware like barracuda or mimecast etc?
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> The information contained in this communication and all accompanying
>> documents from Coilcraft may be confidential and/or legally privileged, and
>> is intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above. If you are
>> not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any review,
>> disclosure, copying, distribution or the taking of any action in reliance
>> on the contents of this transmitted information is strictly prohibited. If
>> you have received this communication in error, please return it to the
>> sender immediately and destroy the original message or accompanying
>> materials and any copy thereof. If you have any questions concerning this
>> message, please contact the sender.
>>
>
>

RE: [NTSysADM] Remove original message in reply

2017-12-14 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr 
This is really what those involved must be aware of and accountable for.
It's their job.

"There are seldom technological blah blah blah ... - Ed Crowley"

On Dec 14, 2017 9:28 AM, "Michael B. Smith" <mich...@smithcons.com> wrote:

> Do this with Compliance Rules/Policies that prohibit the IP.
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Sean Chapman
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 14, 2017 8:34 AM
> *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* RE: [NTSysADM] Remove original message in reply
>
>
>
> There have been cases where very long email chains containing intellectual
> property information has been discussed and these go on for months at a
> time in some cases back and forth.  New people are added to conversations
> and some people are removed and the owners believe that it’s a good idea to
> limit previous information.
>
> I fully agree that this does not seem like a good idea but its already
> been implemented via GPO for our desktops with outlook and they are not
> backing down so unfortunately I have to do what the owners demand since
> they sign the checks.
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com <listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>] *On Behalf Of *Micheal
> Espinola Jr
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 13, 2017 5:35 PM
> *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* Re: [NTSysADM] Remove original message in reply
>
>
>
> Technically, yea you could do it.  But you'd have to be very careful and
> clever.  You'd be modifying multiple Content-Type containers (text/plain,
> text/html, etc).
>
>
>
> More importantly (to me), is what is the business need for this?
>
>
> --
> Espi
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 8:58 AM, Sean Chapman <schap...@coilcraft.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
> I got tasked with finding out how to not include the original message in
> reply for email (using Office 365)  I know this is possible in Outlook but
> its not available for outlook online or mobile.  Does anyone know of a way
> to get this done?  I was thinking maybe some crazy exchange transport rule
> or possibly some hardware like barracuda or mimecast etc?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> The information contained in this communication and all accompanying
> documents from Coilcraft may be confidential and/or legally privileged, and
> is intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above. If you are
> not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any review,
> disclosure, copying, distribution or the taking of any action in reliance
> on the contents of this transmitted information is strictly prohibited. If
> you have received this communication in error, please return it to the
> sender immediately and destroy the original message or accompanying
> materials and any copy thereof. If you have any questions concerning this
> message, please contact the sender.
>
>
>

Re: [NTSysADM] Remove original message in reply

2017-12-14 Thread Andrew S. Baker 
Exactly.  DLP can offer some assistance at the technical controls, but
ultimately, people have to understand the policy and apply it.   Technology
can only help somewhat.

Regards,

 *ASB*


On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 12:21 PM, Michael B. Smith <mich...@smithcons.com>
wrote:

> Do this with Compliance Rules/Policies that prohibit the IP.
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Sean Chapman
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 14, 2017 8:34 AM
> *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* RE: [NTSysADM] Remove original message in reply
>
>
>
> There have been cases where very long email chains containing intellectual
> property information has been discussed and these go on for months at a
> time in some cases back and forth.  New people are added to conversations
> and some people are removed and the owners believe that it’s a good idea to
> limit previous information.
>
> I fully agree that this does not seem like a good idea but its already
> been implemented via GPO for our desktops with outlook and they are not
> backing down so unfortunately I have to do what the owners demand since
> they sign the checks.
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com <listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>] *On Behalf Of *Micheal
> Espinola Jr
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 13, 2017 5:35 PM
> *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* Re: [NTSysADM] Remove original message in reply
>
>
>
> Technically, yea you could do it.  But you'd have to be very careful and
> clever.  You'd be modifying multiple Content-Type containers (text/plain,
> text/html, etc).
>
>
>
> More importantly (to me), is what is the business need for this?
>
>
> --
> Espi
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 8:58 AM, Sean Chapman <schap...@coilcraft.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
> I got tasked with finding out how to not include the original message in
> reply for email (using Office 365)  I know this is possible in Outlook but
> its not available for outlook online or mobile.  Does anyone know of a way
> to get this done?  I was thinking maybe some crazy exchange transport rule
> or possibly some hardware like barracuda or mimecast etc?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> The information contained in this communication and all accompanying
> documents from Coilcraft may be confidential and/or legally privileged, and
> is intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above. If you are
> not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any review,
> disclosure, copying, distribution or the taking of any action in reliance
> on the contents of this transmitted information is strictly prohibited. If
> you have received this communication in error, please return it to the
> sender immediately and destroy the original message or accompanying
> materials and any copy thereof. If you have any questions concerning this
> message, please contact the sender.
>
>
>

RE: [NTSysADM] Remove original message in reply

2017-12-14 Thread Michael B. Smith 
Do this with Compliance Rules/Policies that prohibit the IP.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Sean Chapman
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 8:34 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Remove original message in reply

There have been cases where very long email chains containing intellectual 
property information has been discussed and these go on for months at a time in 
some cases back and forth.  New people are added to conversations and some 
people are removed and the owners believe that it’s a good idea to limit 
previous information.
I fully agree that this does not seem like a good idea but its already been 
implemented via GPO for our desktops with outlook and they are not backing down 
so unfortunately I have to do what the owners demand since they sign the checks.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Micheal Espinola Jr
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 5:35 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Remove original message in reply

Technically, yea you could do it.  But you'd have to be very careful and 
clever.  You'd be modifying multiple Content-Type containers (text/plain, 
text/html, etc).

More importantly (to me), is what is the business need for this?

--
Espi


On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 8:58 AM, Sean Chapman 
<schap...@coilcraft.com<mailto:schap...@coilcraft.com>> wrote:
Hey all,
I got tasked with finding out how to not include the original message in reply 
for email (using Office 365)  I know this is possible in Outlook but its not 
available for outlook online or mobile.  Does anyone know of a way to get this 
done?  I was thinking maybe some crazy exchange transport rule or possibly some 
hardware like barracuda or mimecast etc?
Thanks!









The information contained in this communication and all accompanying documents 
from Coilcraft may be confidential and/or legally privileged, and is intended 
only for the use of the recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended 
recipient you are hereby notified that any review, disclosure, copying, 
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transmitted information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this 
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RE: [NTSysADM] Remove original message in reply

2017-12-14 Thread Sean Chapman 
There have been cases where very long email chains containing intellectual 
property information has been discussed and these go on for months at a time in 
some cases back and forth.  New people are added to conversations and some 
people are removed and the owners believe that it’s a good idea to limit 
previous information.
I fully agree that this does not seem like a good idea but its already been 
implemented via GPO for our desktops with outlook and they are not backing down 
so unfortunately I have to do what the owners demand since they sign the checks.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Micheal Espinola Jr
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 5:35 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Remove original message in reply

Technically, yea you could do it.  But you'd have to be very careful and 
clever.  You'd be modifying multiple Content-Type containers (text/plain, 
text/html, etc).

More importantly (to me), is what is the business need for this?

--
Espi


On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 8:58 AM, Sean Chapman 
<schap...@coilcraft.com<mailto:schap...@coilcraft.com>> wrote:
Hey all,
I got tasked with finding out how to not include the original message in reply 
for email (using Office 365)  I know this is possible in Outlook but its not 
available for outlook online or mobile.  Does anyone know of a way to get this 
done?  I was thinking maybe some crazy exchange transport rule or possibly some 
hardware like barracuda or mimecast etc?
Thanks!









The information contained in this communication and all accompanying documents 
from Coilcraft may be confidential and/or legally privileged, and is intended 
only for the use of the recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended 
recipient you are hereby notified that any review, disclosure, copying, 
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transmitted information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this 
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RE: [NTSysADM] Remove original message in reply

2017-12-13 Thread Michael B. Smith 
I don’t think it can be done safely with full success. And there are real 
chances for data-loss.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Micheal Espinola Jr
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 6:35 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Remove original message in reply

Technically, yea you could do it.  But you'd have to be very careful and 
clever.  You'd be modifying multiple Content-Type containers (text/plain, 
text/html, etc).

More importantly (to me), is what is the business need for this?

--
Espi


On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 8:58 AM, Sean Chapman 
<schap...@coilcraft.com<mailto:schap...@coilcraft.com>> wrote:
Hey all,
I got tasked with finding out how to not include the original message in reply 
for email (using Office 365)  I know this is possible in Outlook but its not 
available for outlook online or mobile.  Does anyone know of a way to get this 
done?  I was thinking maybe some crazy exchange transport rule or possibly some 
hardware like barracuda or mimecast etc?
Thanks!









The information contained in this communication and all accompanying documents 
from Coilcraft may be confidential and/or legally privileged, and is intended 
only for the use of the recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended 
recipient you are hereby notified that any review, disclosure, copying, 
distribution or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this 
transmitted information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this 
communication in error, please return it to the sender immediately and destroy 
the original message or accompanying materials and any copy thereof. If you 
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Re: [NTSysADM] Remove original message in reply

2017-12-13 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr 
Technically, yea you could do it.  But you'd have to be very careful and
clever.  You'd be modifying multiple Content-Type containers (text/plain,
text/html, etc).

More importantly (to me), is what is the business need for this?

--
Espi


On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 8:58 AM, Sean Chapman 
wrote:

> Hey all,
> I got tasked with finding out how to not include the original message in
> reply for email (using Office 365)  I know this is possible in Outlook but
> its not available for outlook online or mobile.  Does anyone know of a way
> to get this done?  I was thinking maybe some crazy exchange transport rule
> or possibly some hardware like barracuda or mimecast etc?
> Thanks!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> The information contained in this communication and all accompanying
> documents from Coilcraft may be confidential and/or legally privileged, and
> is intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above. If you are
> not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any review,
> disclosure, copying, distribution or the taking of any action in reliance
> on the contents of this transmitted information is strictly prohibited. If
> you have received this communication in error, please return it to the
> sender immediately and destroy the original message or accompanying
> materials and any copy thereof. If you have any questions concerning this
> message, please contact the sender.
>